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(Germany and Mexico) Two Cases Where Right to Be Forgotten Wins-and More Countries Starting to Adopt Concept of "Right to be Forgotten" #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Even though some decisions regarding the right to be forgotten are not
relative to genealogical records once a decision is made, the grave concern
is that genealogical records will also be subject to the decisions and will
not be available.

Latin American countries have passed or are considering digital-privacy laws
in Brazil, Chile and Argentina.

The Data Protection Official of the State of North Rhine-Westphalia stopped
the City of Minden who had put online their city's archives with family
information, photographs and more. The rationale may be found at:
http://tinyurl.com/ppekqpn
Original url :
https://www.ldi.nrw.de/mainmenu_Service/submenu_Berichte/Inhalt/22_DIB/DIB_22.pdf page 88 , it is in German. Thank you to Fritz Neubauer who shared
the information with me, translated a summary of the rationale as "Given the
background of anti-Semitic feelings including criminal acts a use against
the original purpose cannot be excluded".

Mexico's Federal Institute for Access to Information (IFAL) ruled against
Google Mexico. At this point the decision only affects links that are on
the Mexican Google site: google.com.mex and not Google sites outside of
Mexico. To read the story go to:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/google-wages-free-speech-fight-in-mexico-1432723483
Note: if you type into Google's search box the title of the story,
Google Wages Free-Speech Fight in Mexico, you can read the entire story
whereas if you click on the link you only get part of the story with a
prompt to subscribe to the Wall Street Journal.

We are now seeing with the German and Mexican examples above that the
concept of the "right to be forgotten" is dealing with those who are
deceased not just the living that poses a major problem with accessing
records of deceased ancestors.

The U.S. however, has taken a different position. The 9th Circuit Court of
appeals rejected an actresses' attempt to prevent Google including its
property, You Tube, >from showing a movie trailer critical of Mohammad. The
case is Garcia v. Google. To read the court case see:
http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2015/05/18/12-57302.pdf
Thank you to David Rencher, chief genealogist of FamilySearch for sharing
the court decision.

To read the full posting and past postings on the "right to be forgotten"
see the IAJGS Records Access archives which may be accessed at:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts.You must be a
registered subscriber to access the archives. To register go to:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow
the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
JGS/JHS/SIG/JewishGen is your affiliation You will receive an email
response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be
finalized.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Germany and Mexico) Two Cases Where Right to Be Forgotten Wins-and More Countries Starting to Adopt Concept of "Right to be Forgotten" #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Even though some decisions regarding the right to be forgotten are not
relative to genealogical records once a decision is made, the grave concern
is that genealogical records will also be subject to the decisions and will
not be available.

Latin American countries have passed or are considering digital-privacy laws
in Brazil, Chile and Argentina.

The Data Protection Official of the State of North Rhine-Westphalia stopped
the City of Minden who had put online their city's archives with family
information, photographs and more. The rationale may be found at:
http://tinyurl.com/ppekqpn
Original url :
https://www.ldi.nrw.de/mainmenu_Service/submenu_Berichte/Inhalt/22_DIB/DIB_22.pdf page 88 , it is in German. Thank you to Fritz Neubauer who shared
the information with me, translated a summary of the rationale as "Given the
background of anti-Semitic feelings including criminal acts a use against
the original purpose cannot be excluded".

Mexico's Federal Institute for Access to Information (IFAL) ruled against
Google Mexico. At this point the decision only affects links that are on
the Mexican Google site: google.com.mex and not Google sites outside of
Mexico. To read the story go to:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/google-wages-free-speech-fight-in-mexico-1432723483
Note: if you type into Google's search box the title of the story,
Google Wages Free-Speech Fight in Mexico, you can read the entire story
whereas if you click on the link you only get part of the story with a
prompt to subscribe to the Wall Street Journal.

We are now seeing with the German and Mexican examples above that the
concept of the "right to be forgotten" is dealing with those who are
deceased not just the living that poses a major problem with accessing
records of deceased ancestors.

The U.S. however, has taken a different position. The 9th Circuit Court of
appeals rejected an actresses' attempt to prevent Google including its
property, You Tube, >from showing a movie trailer critical of Mohammad. The
case is Garcia v. Google. To read the court case see:
http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2015/05/18/12-57302.pdf
Thank you to David Rencher, chief genealogist of FamilySearch for sharing
the court decision.

To read the full posting and past postings on the "right to be forgotten"
see the IAJGS Records Access archives which may be accessed at:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts.You must be a
registered subscriber to access the archives. To register go to:
http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow
the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
JGS/JHS/SIG/JewishGen is your affiliation You will receive an email
response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be
finalized.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


(UK) Forces War Records Release WW II Daily Reports on Missing, Dead Wounded and POWs #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

To commemorate the 70th anniversary of the end of World War ll in Europe,
the Forces War records announced a new exclusive collection on WW ll daily
reports of the missing, dead, wounded and POWs. Over 380,000 men died,
wounded accounted for up to 150,000 and POWs held between 1939-1945
accounted for an additional 180,000 men.

Daily reports were completed every 24/48 hours-some with information not
found elsewhere. The records are mainly for the British Army, although
troops >from elsewhere in the Empire are included and occasionally records
from other services are also included. This is a work in progress - records
completed so far are 'Officers & Nurses 1939-40' and 'Other ranks 1942'
about 90,000 records. Indexing a database, searchable by individual names,
units, and service numbers takes time.

Information that are include in the records include: surname, first name,
service number, rank, regiment, battalion, company, unit attached to,
gallantry awards, casualty type, missing, wounded and type of wound, dates
and locations.

To access the date go to : http://tinyurl.com/o7kjtut
Original url:
https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/collections/134/wwii-daily-reports-missing-dead-wounded-pows'

Registration is required with name, email and password. Typing in a name
generates a new window with first name, surname, service number, rank,
record year and unit. If you want to view the document a paid subscription
is required.

I have no affiliation with Forces War Records and am posting this solely for
the information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (UK) Forces War Records Release WW II Daily Reports on Missing, Dead Wounded and POWs #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

To commemorate the 70th anniversary of the end of World War ll in Europe,
the Forces War records announced a new exclusive collection on WW ll daily
reports of the missing, dead, wounded and POWs. Over 380,000 men died,
wounded accounted for up to 150,000 and POWs held between 1939-1945
accounted for an additional 180,000 men.

Daily reports were completed every 24/48 hours-some with information not
found elsewhere. The records are mainly for the British Army, although
troops >from elsewhere in the Empire are included and occasionally records
from other services are also included. This is a work in progress - records
completed so far are 'Officers & Nurses 1939-40' and 'Other ranks 1942'
about 90,000 records. Indexing a database, searchable by individual names,
units, and service numbers takes time.

Information that are include in the records include: surname, first name,
service number, rank, regiment, battalion, company, unit attached to,
gallantry awards, casualty type, missing, wounded and type of wound, dates
and locations.

To access the date go to : http://tinyurl.com/o7kjtut
Original url:
https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/collections/134/wwii-daily-reports-missing-dead-wounded-pows'

Registration is required with name, email and password. Typing in a name
generates a new window with first name, surname, service number, rank,
record year and unit. If you want to view the document a paid subscription
is required.

I have no affiliation with Forces War Records and am posting this solely for
the information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


British Mandate Palestine Visas #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

My great aunt Chaya Pesia Choritz (maiden name Bdil or Bedil)
arrived alone in British Mandate Palestine as a tourist >from Cape
Town, South Afirca, on the ship "Felicia" on August 6, 1939. Later,
she passed away in a Jerusalem hospital circa 1941-1943.

It is assumed that she had a South African passport and I would
like to know where her visa and other immigration paperwork would
have been obtained and later stored, so that I could get a copy.

Any assistance on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen British Mandate Palestine Visas #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

My great aunt Chaya Pesia Choritz (maiden name Bdil or Bedil)
arrived alone in British Mandate Palestine as a tourist >from Cape
Town, South Afirca, on the ship "Felicia" on August 6, 1939. Later,
she passed away in a Jerusalem hospital circa 1941-1943.

It is assumed that she had a South African passport and I would
like to know where her visa and other immigration paperwork would
have been obtained and later stored, so that I could get a copy.

Any assistance on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Re: obtaining NYC Death Certificates #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Robert Avner asked what to do since the NYC Department of Health
Services placed increased restrictions on accessing death records.

As someone who works with New York records on a weekly basis let me
assure you that the New York City Department of Health marches to
its own beat. They make their own rules by their own authority and
do not follow the restrictions established by New York State.

I already told the story but it is worth repeating that for someone
I was trying to get a 1911 birth certificate for a child who we knew
died in 1913 and we had the death certificate. When I put the
request to the Health Department they kept repeatedly asking me if I
was the father of the child born in 1911 and I had to politely
explain how that would have been extremely difficult considering it
would make me most probably 130 years old!

If you are just trying to establish a date of death and you know it
was inn New York City the New York Public Library has the death
certificates index to 1972 missing only one year. It only contains,
name, borough, date, age and certificate number but it helps narrow
down the dates.

Another possible work around is probate files. I recently did a
search for someone in Manhattan and in a 1990s vintage file I found
an original copy of the death certificate as well as a letter >from a
friend written to the court detailing the family relationships. It
is hit or miss om if you will actually find the death certificate in
the probate file and I will say in Brooklyn a lot of the files >from
the 1930s do not have the death certificate but you of course do get
the date of death and then >from the other papers the next of kin.

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: obtaining NYC Death Certificates #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Robert Avner asked what to do since the NYC Department of Health
Services placed increased restrictions on accessing death records.

As someone who works with New York records on a weekly basis let me
assure you that the New York City Department of Health marches to
its own beat. They make their own rules by their own authority and
do not follow the restrictions established by New York State.

I already told the story but it is worth repeating that for someone
I was trying to get a 1911 birth certificate for a child who we knew
died in 1913 and we had the death certificate. When I put the
request to the Health Department they kept repeatedly asking me if I
was the father of the child born in 1911 and I had to politely
explain how that would have been extremely difficult considering it
would make me most probably 130 years old!

If you are just trying to establish a date of death and you know it
was inn New York City the New York Public Library has the death
certificates index to 1972 missing only one year. It only contains,
name, borough, date, age and certificate number but it helps narrow
down the dates.

Another possible work around is probate files. I recently did a
search for someone in Manhattan and in a 1990s vintage file I found
an original copy of the death certificate as well as a letter >from a
friend written to the court detailing the family relationships. It
is hit or miss om if you will actually find the death certificate in
the probate file and I will say in Brooklyn a lot of the files >from
the 1930s do not have the death certificate but you of course do get
the date of death and then >from the other papers the next of kin.

Allan Jordan


Re: Jewish newspapers online #general

Susan&David
 

Mark London asked: "Does anyone keep a list of Jewish newspapers that are
online?"

There is a list of all newspaper archives on line. The list was compiled
country by country, and, in the U.S. State by State.
Do a search for "List of online newspaper archives".

The list includes Jewish newspapers >from Austria, France, Germany,
Cyprus, Israel, Poland and England as well at the U.S.A.

David Rosen
Boston, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish newspapers online #general

Susan&David
 

Mark London asked: "Does anyone keep a list of Jewish newspapers that are
online?"

There is a list of all newspaper archives on line. The list was compiled
country by country, and, in the U.S. State by State.
Do a search for "List of online newspaper archives".

The list includes Jewish newspapers >from Austria, France, Germany,
Cyprus, Israel, Poland and England as well at the U.S.A.

David Rosen
Boston, MA


Grapevine #lithuania

Carol Hoffman
 

Excerpts >from Greer Fay Cashman's article Grapevine: Perfect Timing
that appeared in the Jerusalem Post May 26, 2014 follow:

GENEALOGY IS a subject claiming increasing attention >from year to
year, partly because so much information is now available on the
Internet, and people sometimes discover family roots quite by chance
when seeking information about another subject altogether.

Genealogy is particularly important to Holocaust survivors who lost
immediate family and whose parents, siblings and children have no
grave. That may explain why Tel Aviv Chief Rabbi and Yad Vashem
Council chairman Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau will be the keynote speaker at
the 35th International Conference on Jewish genealogy, to be held at
Jerusalem's Ramada Hotel >from July 6-10.

Organized by the International Association of Jewish Genealogy
Societies together with Israeli genealogical societies, the conference
http://iajgs2015.org/ will be attended by more than 600 Jewish
genealogy enthusiasts >from around the globe.

More than 200 lectures will cover worldwide research and archival
resources; there will be also many "how-to" and one-on-one sessions
with experts in various fields. Computer workshops will show how best
to use all the latest online technological resources, and how DNA
testing can identify relatives.

Some lecturers will give personal accounts of their family research
and successes, explaining their methodology, tips and tricks. Special
events include SIG (Special Interest Groups) and BOF (Birds of a
Feather) breakfasts and lunches.

The closing banquet will be addressed by master genealogist Dick
Eastman' who in the mid-1980s, at the dawn of the World Wide Web,
pioneered one of the first online genealogy forums.

Carol Hoffman
Tel Aviv


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Grapevine #lithuania

Carol Hoffman
 

Excerpts >from Greer Fay Cashman's article Grapevine: Perfect Timing
that appeared in the Jerusalem Post May 26, 2014 follow:

GENEALOGY IS a subject claiming increasing attention >from year to
year, partly because so much information is now available on the
Internet, and people sometimes discover family roots quite by chance
when seeking information about another subject altogether.

Genealogy is particularly important to Holocaust survivors who lost
immediate family and whose parents, siblings and children have no
grave. That may explain why Tel Aviv Chief Rabbi and Yad Vashem
Council chairman Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau will be the keynote speaker at
the 35th International Conference on Jewish genealogy, to be held at
Jerusalem's Ramada Hotel >from July 6-10.

Organized by the International Association of Jewish Genealogy
Societies together with Israeli genealogical societies, the conference
http://iajgs2015.org/ will be attended by more than 600 Jewish
genealogy enthusiasts >from around the globe.

More than 200 lectures will cover worldwide research and archival
resources; there will be also many "how-to" and one-on-one sessions
with experts in various fields. Computer workshops will show how best
to use all the latest online technological resources, and how DNA
testing can identify relatives.

Some lecturers will give personal accounts of their family research
and successes, explaining their methodology, tips and tricks. Special
events include SIG (Special Interest Groups) and BOF (Birds of a
Feather) breakfasts and lunches.

The closing banquet will be addressed by master genealogist Dick
Eastman' who in the mid-1980s, at the dawn of the World Wide Web,
pioneered one of the first online genealogy forums.

Carol Hoffman
Tel Aviv


Rosy Regina MAYER LUSS #germany

John or Leslie Koelsch <koelsch1886@...>
 

Hello GerSIG,

I am looking for the town of birth in Germany and birthdate of Rosy
Regina MAYER (d. 1951 Israel) who married David LUSS (1871
Sterbfritz-1922 Barmen/Elberfeld).

Thank you for any help you can provide.

Leslie Haas Koelsch, San Francisco. koelsch1886@comcast.net


German SIG #Germany Rosy Regina MAYER LUSS #germany

John or Leslie Koelsch <koelsch1886@...>
 

Hello GerSIG,

I am looking for the town of birth in Germany and birthdate of Rosy
Regina MAYER (d. 1951 Israel) who married David LUSS (1871
Sterbfritz-1922 Barmen/Elberfeld).

Thank you for any help you can provide.

Leslie Haas Koelsch, San Francisco. koelsch1886@comcast.net


SITE CITE: "Between Assimilation and Annihilation: Jews in Germany and Their Children" #germany

Andreas J Schwab, Dr <andreas.schwab@...>
 

I have published an essay in the web at RIJO Research under the title
"Between Assimilation and Annihilation: Jews in Germany and Their Children":
http://www.rijo.homepage.t-online.de/pdf_2/EN_DE_JU_schwab.pdf

It is based on a speech that I gave at the Jewish Genealogical Society of
Montreal in December 2013.

The essay retraces the lives of my Schwab ancestors in the framework of the
history of German Jews >from Moses Mendelssohn until today. I put special
emphasis on the fate of children of mixed marriages in Germany during the
Nazi era.

Comments are welcome. If you find any mistakes or typos, please inform
me privately.

Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, Quebec, Canada <andreas.schwab@mcgill.ca>


German SIG #Germany SITE CITE: "Between Assimilation and Annihilation: Jews in Germany and Their Children" #germany

Andreas J Schwab, Dr <andreas.schwab@...>
 

I have published an essay in the web at RIJO Research under the title
"Between Assimilation and Annihilation: Jews in Germany and Their Children":
http://www.rijo.homepage.t-online.de/pdf_2/EN_DE_JU_schwab.pdf

It is based on a speech that I gave at the Jewish Genealogical Society of
Montreal in December 2013.

The essay retraces the lives of my Schwab ancestors in the framework of the
history of German Jews >from Moses Mendelssohn until today. I put special
emphasis on the fate of children of mixed marriages in Germany during the
Nazi era.

Comments are welcome. If you find any mistakes or typos, please inform
me privately.

Andreas Schwab, Beaconsfield, Quebec, Canada <andreas.schwab@mcgill.ca>


GerSIG Luncheon at IAJGS Conference in Jerusalem #germany

Jeanette R Rosenberg OBE
 

Dear GerSIG Members

I am delighted to finally (much later than envisaged) be able to share
with you the topic for the GerSIG Luncheon Speaker at our forthcoming
IAJGS Conference in Jerusalem.

Our Speaker >from the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish
People (CAHJP) in Jerusalem is Dr Yochai Ben Ghedalia. His topic is:
German-Jewish Vital Records at the CAHJP.

His luncheon topic is as follows:

The Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People
is the main depot for archives of German-Jewish communities,
organizations and personalities.

This huge record group, more than 1,000 archival divisions,
includes thousands of original registers of vital records,
as well as copies of thousands of others, including a comprehensive
set of miniature 'Gattermann' registers. The communities' archives
contain vast genealogical sources of less-direct
nature. The talk will give a glimpse into those treasures, suggesting
future projects of making them accessible on-line.

GerSIG looks forward to welcoming you at Conference. If you've not
already told me you will be there, please let me know.

Jeanette Rosenberg, London UK, GerSIG Director for conference arrangements


German SIG #Germany GerSIG Luncheon at IAJGS Conference in Jerusalem #germany

Jeanette R Rosenberg OBE
 

Dear GerSIG Members

I am delighted to finally (much later than envisaged) be able to share
with you the topic for the GerSIG Luncheon Speaker at our forthcoming
IAJGS Conference in Jerusalem.

Our Speaker >from the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish
People (CAHJP) in Jerusalem is Dr Yochai Ben Ghedalia. His topic is:
German-Jewish Vital Records at the CAHJP.

His luncheon topic is as follows:

The Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People
is the main depot for archives of German-Jewish communities,
organizations and personalities.

This huge record group, more than 1,000 archival divisions,
includes thousands of original registers of vital records,
as well as copies of thousands of others, including a comprehensive
set of miniature 'Gattermann' registers. The communities' archives
contain vast genealogical sources of less-direct
nature. The talk will give a glimpse into those treasures, suggesting
future projects of making them accessible on-line.

GerSIG looks forward to welcoming you at Conference. If you've not
already told me you will be there, please let me know.

Jeanette Rosenberg, London UK, GerSIG Director for conference arrangements


Re: Romanenko Uzed #ukraine

innanes@...
 

Hi June,

I never heard of Romanenko uezd in Bessarabia and I am wondering if
they really meant Jewish agricultural colony of Romanovka. The colony
was founded in 1849 on the land owned by F. Romanenko. It was part of
the experiment of the Russian Empire government to get Jews accustomed
to farming. The Jewish colony Romanovka (the original name -
Romanenko) had 118 Jewish families. Among the first settlers were Leib
Goldenshteyn, A.Eldelman, L. Burman, V.Plachansky, Gunts Tsukovich,
Price Teytelman and others. I hope that helps.


Inna Vayner

Facebook Group Bessarabian/Moldavian Jewish Roots
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Bessarabian.Moldavian.Jewishroots/


junegenis@gmail.com, wrote:


According to the gravestone of my grandfather Jacob Genis his father
was named Yankel Genis. Jacob emigrated >from Dubno, Ukraine but I
don't know here his father was from. I recently found a revision list
entry for a Yankel Genis born in 1841 >from Romanenko Uzed in
Bessarabia. Jacob was born in 1863 so this could be his father.
However I've been unable to locate Romanenko on any map. Does anyone
here know here it is or was?


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Romanenko Uzed #ukraine

innanes@...
 

Hi June,

I never heard of Romanenko uezd in Bessarabia and I am wondering if
they really meant Jewish agricultural colony of Romanovka. The colony
was founded in 1849 on the land owned by F. Romanenko. It was part of
the experiment of the Russian Empire government to get Jews accustomed
to farming. The Jewish colony Romanovka (the original name -
Romanenko) had 118 Jewish families. Among the first settlers were Leib
Goldenshteyn, A.Eldelman, L. Burman, V.Plachansky, Gunts Tsukovich,
Price Teytelman and others. I hope that helps.


Inna Vayner

Facebook Group Bessarabian/Moldavian Jewish Roots
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Bessarabian.Moldavian.Jewishroots/


junegenis@gmail.com, wrote:


According to the gravestone of my grandfather Jacob Genis his father
was named Yankel Genis. Jacob emigrated >from Dubno, Ukraine but I
don't know here his father was from. I recently found a revision list
entry for a Yankel Genis born in 1841 >from Romanenko Uzed in
Bessarabia. Jacob was born in 1863 so this could be his father.
However I've been unable to locate Romanenko on any map. Does anyone
here know here it is or was?

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