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Re: BERNHEIM
#france
Alain-Michel Diamant-Berger <amdbconsult@...>
Pierre,
According to the page of Alphonse BERNHEIM in the tree published by Jean Christophe LEVEQUE on Geneanet, the father is #2. There is no indication of his marriage with Emma LEVY. Best regards, Alain-Michel ---------------- 2015-08-26 8:04 GMT+02:00 French SIG digest Jacques Paul BERNHEIM born 8-Oct-1900, Paris 11 (# 4288).
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Polish translation request on Viewmate
#general
Gail Harris <gjh@...>
I appreciate your help with a translation for the marriage record
of my ancestors - six generations back in Piszczac! I would like to know the wedding date, the parents of Wolf CYTRYN and Szejny Leja FAYGELMAN, and any other pertinent names, dates and places you can glean >from this record. Viewmate link: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=41946 The original can be viewed on the right side of the page @ http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1766/0/2.1/9/skan/full/HGTD47bj7Bm4Y-O9V3Gxig Gail Harris Toronto MODERATOR NOTE: To see the document on the Polish archives site, click on "Download". It's a large image, and may take some time to download on a slow connection.
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French SIG #France RE: BERNHEIM
#france
Alain-Michel Diamant-Berger <amdbconsult@...>
Pierre,
According to the page of Alphonse BERNHEIM in the tree published by Jean Christophe LEVEQUE on Geneanet, the father is #2. There is no indication of his marriage with Emma LEVY. Best regards, Alain-Michel ---------------- 2015-08-26 8:04 GMT+02:00 French SIG digest Jacques Paul BERNHEIM born 8-Oct-1900, Paris 11 (# 4288).
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish translation request on Viewmate
#general
Gail Harris <gjh@...>
I appreciate your help with a translation for the marriage record
of my ancestors - six generations back in Piszczac! I would like to know the wedding date, the parents of Wolf CYTRYN and Szejny Leja FAYGELMAN, and any other pertinent names, dates and places you can glean >from this record. Viewmate link: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=41946 The original can be viewed on the right side of the page @ http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1766/0/2.1/9/skan/full/HGTD47bj7Bm4Y-O9V3Gxig Gail Harris Toronto MODERATOR NOTE: To see the document on the Polish archives site, click on "Download". It's a large image, and may take some time to download on a slow connection.
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Voter Lists in Lithuania
#general
Judith Singer
Hi - I am researching the CHARNEY families that lived in Kavarskas,
Lithuania during part of the second half of the 19th century. The particular branch I am interested in appears in the 1877 Box Taxpayers List but not the 1880 or 1882 Voters Lists. However, I don't think I can conclude that my branch moved away between 1877 and 1880 because the Voters Lists contained less than a quarter of the names on the Box Taxpayers List. Does anyone know what the qualifications were for being included on the Voters Lists at that time? thank you Judith Singer (researching CHARNEY in Lithuania and Belarus, SORTMAN in Poland and Lithuania)
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Re: Naming of child when mother dies in childbirth
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Dubin, David M. MD <David.Dubin@...>
Hi all,
As we know, Ashkenazi Jews traditionally name children for dead relatives, usually recently deceased, particularly prominent relatives, most often ancestors. If the child's naming took place after her mother died in childbirth, it would have been routine to name the daughter for her mother, "evil eye" notwithstanding. As for Evertjan Hannivoort's comment about adding a name, this is a different topic: When someone has a very serious illness, a name is indeed added in a ceremony. The concept is if a person is condemned to death in some celestial listing by his/her name, a change in name could "confuse" the Satan/angel of death. No randomized, controlled, double-blinded trials have (yet?) proven the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of this method. David Dubin Teaneck, NJ
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Voter Lists in Lithuania
#general
Judith Singer
Hi - I am researching the CHARNEY families that lived in Kavarskas,
Lithuania during part of the second half of the 19th century. The particular branch I am interested in appears in the 1877 Box Taxpayers List but not the 1880 or 1882 Voters Lists. However, I don't think I can conclude that my branch moved away between 1877 and 1880 because the Voters Lists contained less than a quarter of the names on the Box Taxpayers List. Does anyone know what the qualifications were for being included on the Voters Lists at that time? thank you Judith Singer (researching CHARNEY in Lithuania and Belarus, SORTMAN in Poland and Lithuania)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming of child when mother dies in childbirth
#general
Dubin, David M. MD <David.Dubin@...>
Hi all,
As we know, Ashkenazi Jews traditionally name children for dead relatives, usually recently deceased, particularly prominent relatives, most often ancestors. If the child's naming took place after her mother died in childbirth, it would have been routine to name the daughter for her mother, "evil eye" notwithstanding. As for Evertjan Hannivoort's comment about adding a name, this is a different topic: When someone has a very serious illness, a name is indeed added in a ceremony. The concept is if a person is condemned to death in some celestial listing by his/her name, a change in name could "confuse" the Satan/angel of death. No randomized, controlled, double-blinded trials have (yet?) proven the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of this method. David Dubin Teaneck, NJ
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Re: One family member sent to Canada, 1937
#general
Judith Singer
Hi - one possibility to consider is that although Cerla disembarked in
Halifax, she was actually headed for the U.S. Have you looked for her there? Halifax is close to Maine, and I believe the fare to Canada was cheaper than the fare to the U.S., so she may have voyaged to Halifax intending to go to Boston or NY or some other location in the northeastern U.S. (My grandfather sailed to St. John, New Brunswick, Canada and, according to family legend, then walked to New York City.) Judith Singer (searching CHARNEY in Lithuania and Belarus, SORTMAN in Poland and Lithuania) On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Barbara Lynn Weintraub blwgen@q.com wrote: I recently found the family of one of my grandmother's sisters.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: One family member sent to Canada, 1937
#general
Judith Singer
Hi - one possibility to consider is that although Cerla disembarked in
Halifax, she was actually headed for the U.S. Have you looked for her there? Halifax is close to Maine, and I believe the fare to Canada was cheaper than the fare to the U.S., so she may have voyaged to Halifax intending to go to Boston or NY or some other location in the northeastern U.S. (My grandfather sailed to St. John, New Brunswick, Canada and, according to family legend, then walked to New York City.) Judith Singer (searching CHARNEY in Lithuania and Belarus, SORTMAN in Poland and Lithuania) On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Barbara Lynn Weintraub blwgen@q.com wrote: I recently found the family of one of my grandmother's sisters.
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Re: Seeking Sarah BOWMAN death certificate (NY)
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Robert Hanna
Johanna Becker wrote:
My husband's ggm Sarah BOWMAN [originally BAUMAN] is buried in I sent a request for the death certificate, along w/ a photo of theJohanna, Just because Sarah is buried in Rochester, NY, does not mean that she died in Rochester. My grandmother, Gussie Rubinstein, is buried in Queens, NY, but she died in Miami-Dade County, Florida in 1957. Another Gussie Rubinstein died in Brooklyn around the same time. Also, don't trust that her name is correct on the death certificate. It took me 3-1/2 years to find my ggm's grave. Her name is Tillie Karasik. Her death certificate has her name as Tiba Harasik. The cemetery records had her listed as Toba Harasik. Her gravestone reads Tillie Karasik. And there is a Tillie Karasick buried in the same cemetery. My ggm died in 1926, the other Tillie died in 1927. You might want to contact the cemetery office and see if they have her death certificate on file or what info they have for her. Also, if she is buried in a society section of the cemetery, see if that society is still in existence and contact them. Good luck to you in your search. Robert Hanna New York, NY
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Mushkin-Soloveitchik
#rabbinic
Neil@...
Trying to trace this branch of the Soloveitchik rabbinical family back
further. Miriam, married Yitzchak Yirmiyahu Mushkin, son of R. Yechiel Michel Mushkin (died in 1946,and his wife, Esther Rivke, daughter of R. Simcha Elijah HaLevi Soloveitchik, son of Zvi HaLevi Soloveitchik -- Neil Rosenstein
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seeking Sarah BOWMAN death certificate (NY)
#general
Robert Hanna
Johanna Becker wrote:
My husband's ggm Sarah BOWMAN [originally BAUMAN] is buried in I sent a request for the death certificate, along w/ a photo of theJohanna, Just because Sarah is buried in Rochester, NY, does not mean that she died in Rochester. My grandmother, Gussie Rubinstein, is buried in Queens, NY, but she died in Miami-Dade County, Florida in 1957. Another Gussie Rubinstein died in Brooklyn around the same time. Also, don't trust that her name is correct on the death certificate. It took me 3-1/2 years to find my ggm's grave. Her name is Tillie Karasik. Her death certificate has her name as Tiba Harasik. The cemetery records had her listed as Toba Harasik. Her gravestone reads Tillie Karasik. And there is a Tillie Karasick buried in the same cemetery. My ggm died in 1926, the other Tillie died in 1927. You might want to contact the cemetery office and see if they have her death certificate on file or what info they have for her. Also, if she is buried in a society section of the cemetery, see if that society is still in existence and contact them. Good luck to you in your search. Robert Hanna New York, NY
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Mushkin-Soloveitchik
#rabbinic
Neil@...
Trying to trace this branch of the Soloveitchik rabbinical family back
further. Miriam, married Yitzchak Yirmiyahu Mushkin, son of R. Yechiel Michel Mushkin (died in 1946,and his wife, Esther Rivke, daughter of R. Simcha Elijah HaLevi Soloveitchik, son of Zvi HaLevi Soloveitchik -- Neil Rosenstein
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Re: Seeking Sarah BOWMAN death certificate (NY)
#general
bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
Johanna Becker wrote:
< My husband's ggm Sarah BOWMAN [originally BAUMAN] is buried in Rochester, NY in Britton Road Cemetery. Her tombstone gives her DOD as 4 April 1918. I sent a request for the death certificate, along w/ a photo of the tombstone, to the Monroe County Vital Records office. They were not able to find a record of her death. I then hired a local researcher who checked the NY State Archives microfiche for 1917-1919 for BOWMAN or BAUMAN and couldn't find her. I should note that many years ago I contacted the NY State Archives for the death certificate before I knew the DOD, only an approximate range. They sent me a death certificate for another Sarah Bowman who died in 1919 who lived in another county and who was married. My husband's ggm was a widow. People have suggested that she might not have died in Rochester. It doesn't seem reasonable that there would be a tombstone in Rochester if she didn't die there and wasn't buried there. > It is not unusual for people to be buried in a place other than the place where they died. Are you sure that Sarah Bowman born March 15, 1838 died April 4, 1918 at Britton Road Cemetery is your husband's great grandmother? Does the gravestone inscription include her father's name in Hebrew? Where is Sarah's husband buried? The date of death on the gravestone may be in error. Contact Britton Road Cemetery in Greece, NY for further information < http://mcnygenealogy.com/cem/britton-road-cem-1.htm >. Contact Congregation Beth Hakneses Hachodosh, the Orthodox synagogue plot (BHH East row 3 grave 63) in which Sarah is buried, for further information < http://www.congbhh.org/ >. Check local newspapers and funeral homes for Sarah Bowman's obituary information. If an elderly widow has remarried, her surname may be different on her gravestone versus her death record. Try requesting a death record (not only searching online) for any Sarah who died in March or April 1918. Sarah Bowman who died in 1919 might be the correct person if her marital status is in error and she died in another county, such as in a nursing home. Check parents and informant names and other data on the death record. Per Wikipedia, the city of Rochester NY in Monroe County (another Rochester NY is in Ulster County) is at the center of a larger metropolitan area which encompasses and extends beyond Monroe County and includes Genesee County, Livingston County, Ontario County, Orleans County and Wayne County. Try checking with all of these counties. Good luck! Bette Stoop Mas USA
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Weber and Blau chassidic family
#general
Neil@...
Looking for updated and contact information on the Weber family of
whom a daughter of Pinchas Leibish Weber married Rabbi Amram Blau, died 1979 of the Neturei Karta. The daughter was Hinde and her siblings were: Elimelech Weber. Mordecai Eliezer Weber, lived in the USA. Channah Yocheved, married Naftali Zvi Hertzel. -- Neil Rosenstein MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.
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Weber and Blau chassidic family
#rabbinic
Neil@...
Looking for updated and contact information on the Weber family of
whom a daughter of Pinchas Leibish Weber married Rabbi Amram Blau, died 1979 of the Neturei Karta. The daughter was Hinde and her siblings were: Elimelech Weber. Mordecai Eliezer Weber, lived in the USA. Channah Yocheved, married Naftali Zvi Hertzel. -- Neil Rosenstein MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seeking Sarah BOWMAN death certificate (NY)
#general
bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
Johanna Becker wrote:
< My husband's ggm Sarah BOWMAN [originally BAUMAN] is buried in Rochester, NY in Britton Road Cemetery. Her tombstone gives her DOD as 4 April 1918. I sent a request for the death certificate, along w/ a photo of the tombstone, to the Monroe County Vital Records office. They were not able to find a record of her death. I then hired a local researcher who checked the NY State Archives microfiche for 1917-1919 for BOWMAN or BAUMAN and couldn't find her. I should note that many years ago I contacted the NY State Archives for the death certificate before I knew the DOD, only an approximate range. They sent me a death certificate for another Sarah Bowman who died in 1919 who lived in another county and who was married. My husband's ggm was a widow. People have suggested that she might not have died in Rochester. It doesn't seem reasonable that there would be a tombstone in Rochester if she didn't die there and wasn't buried there. > It is not unusual for people to be buried in a place other than the place where they died. Are you sure that Sarah Bowman born March 15, 1838 died April 4, 1918 at Britton Road Cemetery is your husband's great grandmother? Does the gravestone inscription include her father's name in Hebrew? Where is Sarah's husband buried? The date of death on the gravestone may be in error. Contact Britton Road Cemetery in Greece, NY for further information < http://mcnygenealogy.com/cem/britton-road-cem-1.htm >. Contact Congregation Beth Hakneses Hachodosh, the Orthodox synagogue plot (BHH East row 3 grave 63) in which Sarah is buried, for further information < http://www.congbhh.org/ >. Check local newspapers and funeral homes for Sarah Bowman's obituary information. If an elderly widow has remarried, her surname may be different on her gravestone versus her death record. Try requesting a death record (not only searching online) for any Sarah who died in March or April 1918. Sarah Bowman who died in 1919 might be the correct person if her marital status is in error and she died in another county, such as in a nursing home. Check parents and informant names and other data on the death record. Per Wikipedia, the city of Rochester NY in Monroe County (another Rochester NY is in Ulster County) is at the center of a larger metropolitan area which encompasses and extends beyond Monroe County and includes Genesee County, Livingston County, Ontario County, Orleans County and Wayne County. Try checking with all of these counties. Good luck! Bette Stoop Mas USA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Weber and Blau chassidic family
#general
Neil@...
Looking for updated and contact information on the Weber family of
whom a daughter of Pinchas Leibish Weber married Rabbi Amram Blau, died 1979 of the Neturei Karta. The daughter was Hinde and her siblings were: Elimelech Weber. Mordecai Eliezer Weber, lived in the USA. Channah Yocheved, married Naftali Zvi Hertzel. -- Neil Rosenstein MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Weber and Blau chassidic family
#rabbinic
Neil@...
Looking for updated and contact information on the Weber family of
whom a daughter of Pinchas Leibish Weber married Rabbi Amram Blau, died 1979 of the Neturei Karta. The daughter was Hinde and her siblings were: Elimelech Weber. Mordecai Eliezer Weber, lived in the USA. Channah Yocheved, married Naftali Zvi Hertzel. -- Neil Rosenstein MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.
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