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Help needed please with translation from Russian to English - Rzepka Family #general

Gina Marks <ginagem@...>
 

Dear Listers
I have posted on Viewmate two vital records in Russian and would appreciate any
offers of help with translating these into English.
One is the marriage record of Icek Michel RZEPKA to Fajga KARP in Nowy Dwor,Poland
in 1873 and the other is the death record of Szlama Rzepka in 1890 in Poland.

These are on ViewMate at the following addresses:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM42164
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM42168

Please respond via the form provided on ViewMate or contact me direct if you have
any connection to the Rzepka family.
Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Gina Marks
Stanmore, UK
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help needed please with translation from Russian to English - Rzepka Family #general

Gina Marks <ginagem@...>
 

Dear Listers
I have posted on Viewmate two vital records in Russian and would appreciate any
offers of help with translating these into English.
One is the marriage record of Icek Michel RZEPKA to Fajga KARP in Nowy Dwor,Poland
in 1873 and the other is the death record of Szlama Rzepka in 1890 in Poland.

These are on ViewMate at the following addresses:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM42164
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM42168

Please respond via the form provided on ViewMate or contact me direct if you have
any connection to the Rzepka family.
Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Gina Marks
Stanmore, UK
=


Is it my grandfather in the Austrian Hungarian Army #general

אברהם <avraham997@...>
 

Dear Genners

Shanah tovah u briah.A healthy and good new year to you all.

Can anyone help me?

My grandfather Karoly Gewurz z''l (Spelled with German uumlaut) lived in
Bratislava. He served in the 1WW, fighting under Emperor Franz Joseph. He
might be identical to one of the soldiers mentioned as Karoly Gewurz in this
book:" A magyar hadviselt zsidok aranyalbuma : Az 1914-1918-as vilaghaboru emlekere
/ szerkesztette Hegedus Marton. - Budapest : [s.n.], 1941. - 448, 56, 96, IV p.,
64

This book has lists and commentaries about Jewish Solidiers who served in
the Austrian-Hungarian Army during WW1 .it was newly reprinted in 2013

If anyone of you own or have access to this book, I would like to get in
in contact. My hope is to determine if the person mentioned in this book
was my grandfather. I hope it it also includes a Photograph of him . Thank you from
avraham lapa.
My email is
avraham997@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Is it my grandfather in the Austrian Hungarian Army #general

אברהם <avraham997@...>
 

Dear Genners

Shanah tovah u briah.A healthy and good new year to you all.

Can anyone help me?

My grandfather Karoly Gewurz z''l (Spelled with German uumlaut) lived in
Bratislava. He served in the 1WW, fighting under Emperor Franz Joseph. He
might be identical to one of the soldiers mentioned as Karoly Gewurz in this
book:" A magyar hadviselt zsidok aranyalbuma : Az 1914-1918-as vilaghaboru emlekere
/ szerkesztette Hegedus Marton. - Budapest : [s.n.], 1941. - 448, 56, 96, IV p.,
64

This book has lists and commentaries about Jewish Solidiers who served in
the Austrian-Hungarian Army during WW1 .it was newly reprinted in 2013

If anyone of you own or have access to this book, I would like to get in
in contact. My hope is to determine if the person mentioned in this book
was my grandfather. I hope it it also includes a Photograph of him . Thank you from
avraham lapa.
My email is
avraham997@gmail.com


(Luxembourg) Luxroots.com Genealogy Site #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

LuxRoots.com is the biggest genealogy site in Luxembourg. Their work is done
by volunteers. The site requires a 20 Euro donation to access, however,
there is a free three day search, but one must first go through their free
registration process. On the homepage go to login and then register and then
you will be directed on how to finish the process. The National Archives of
Luxembourg has approximately three million birth, marriage and death records
from 1600-1923 and Luxroots are analyzing their details into an online
database. Over one million Luxembourg birth certificates and almost 50,000
death records have been made available online thanks to the voluntary
project. People whose families lived in a part of Luxembourg which was later
annexed to either Germany or Belgium, should be able to find relevant online
data through the tool. Luxembourg was annexed several times throughout history.

Historically, there have been few Jews in Luxembourg. Today, it has a larger
Jewish population than before the Nazi era. While there is no specific
Jewish section, you may find data about Jewish Luxembourgers who lived in
a specific town. I tried several different Jewish sounding names" and
received hits. To access LuxRoots, go to http://luxroots.com

To read more about Luxroots and its beginnings see:
http://tinyurl.com/ofgjvlj
Original url:
http://www.wort.lu/en/luxembourg/luxroots-com-luxembourg-family-history-searches-easier-thanks-to-online-archive-55eedf5d0c88b46a8ce5fa02

Thank you to David Ockene, member IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring
Committee for informing us about this site.


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Luxembourg) Luxroots.com Genealogy Site #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

LuxRoots.com is the biggest genealogy site in Luxembourg. Their work is done
by volunteers. The site requires a 20 Euro donation to access, however,
there is a free three day search, but one must first go through their free
registration process. On the homepage go to login and then register and then
you will be directed on how to finish the process. The National Archives of
Luxembourg has approximately three million birth, marriage and death records
from 1600-1923 and Luxroots are analyzing their details into an online
database. Over one million Luxembourg birth certificates and almost 50,000
death records have been made available online thanks to the voluntary
project. People whose families lived in a part of Luxembourg which was later
annexed to either Germany or Belgium, should be able to find relevant online
data through the tool. Luxembourg was annexed several times throughout history.

Historically, there have been few Jews in Luxembourg. Today, it has a larger
Jewish population than before the Nazi era. While there is no specific
Jewish section, you may find data about Jewish Luxembourgers who lived in
a specific town. I tried several different Jewish sounding names" and
received hits. To access LuxRoots, go to http://luxroots.com

To read more about Luxroots and its beginnings see:
http://tinyurl.com/ofgjvlj
Original url:
http://www.wort.lu/en/luxembourg/luxroots-com-luxembourg-family-history-searches-easier-thanks-to-online-archive-55eedf5d0c88b46a8ce5fa02

Thank you to David Ockene, member IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring
Committee for informing us about this site.


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Seeking information regarding Anna KATZ and A. WANK from Brooklyn, NY #galicia

Joyce Eastman
 

I would like to express my sincere thanks to everyone who provided assistance to
me in helping to locate more information on the two individuals noted as relatives
on my uncle's Emigration Declaration form (who were previously unknown to me).

While I have thanked each one individually, I wanted to publicly state how
much I have appreciated the assistance I have received >from many of those
who read these daily digests. Their help has been invaluable, and I cannot
stress enough how much I appreciate their effort on my behalf. This is why
I continue to be a firm supporter of JewishGen each year.


Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA

RESEARCHING: WILDER/HONIG/HELFER/ZINKOWER: Brody, Poland/Ukraine and
Vienna, Austria; RUFEISEN: Biala/Sucha/Zywiec/Szare, Poland, Israel, Germany
and Brazil; SCHEIER/ROBINSOHN: Biala/Sucha, Poland and Stanislawow,
Poland/Ukraine (Ivano-Frankvisk); FRANKL/FODOR/PORGES/GROSSMANN/KOHN/WEISZ:
Vaj Ujhely, Hungary/Trencin, Slovakia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Seeking information regarding Anna KATZ and A. WANK from Brooklyn, NY #general

Joyce Eastman
 

I would like to express my sincere thanks to everyone who provided assistance to
me in helping to locate more information on the two individuals noted as relatives
on my uncle's Emigration Declaration form (who were previously unknown to me).

While I have thanked each one individually, I wanted to publicly state how
much I have appreciated the assistance I have received >from many of those
who read these daily digests. Their help has been invaluable, and I cannot
stress enough how much I appreciate their effort on my behalf. This is why
I continue to be a firm supporter of JewishGen each year.


Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA

RESEARCHING: WILDER/HONIG/HELFER/ZINKOWER: Brody, Poland/Ukraine and
Vienna, Austria; RUFEISEN: Biala/Sucha/Zywiec/Szare, Poland, Israel, Germany
and Brazil; SCHEIER/ROBINSOHN: Biala/Sucha, Poland and Stanislawow,
Poland/Ukraine (Ivano-Frankvisk); FRANKL/FODOR/PORGES/GROSSMANN/KOHN/WEISZ:
Vaj Ujhely, Hungary/Trencin, Slovakia


ViewMate translation request - Russian - 1872 birth record from Krasnobrod #general

dougjug@...
 

I have posted a vital record in Russian for which I would greatly appreciate a
translation. It is my great-grandmother's birth record >from Krasnobrod, Poland.
Our family would like to learn her father's name and occupation, her mother's
maiden name, and any other information that would help us learn more about her
family in Krasnobrod.

It is on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM42149

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Douglas Davis
Madsion, Wisconsin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Russian - 1872 birth record from Krasnobrod #general

dougjug@...
 

I have posted a vital record in Russian for which I would greatly appreciate a
translation. It is my great-grandmother's birth record >from Krasnobrod, Poland.
Our family would like to learn her father's name and occupation, her mother's
maiden name, and any other information that would help us learn more about her
family in Krasnobrod.

It is on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM42149

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much.
Douglas Davis
Madsion, Wisconsin


Retracing 1946 flight reservations which were cancelled #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

In Dec. 1946 my grandfather who was living in Tel-Aviv made reservation for
my mother and her two children (incl. myself) toctravel TWA >from Tel-Aviv
to NYC via Cairo.

When we arrived in Cairo we were "bumped off" the next leg due to overloaded plane.

Is there any way today to find what were the flights ordered from
Cairo to NYC. Was it a direct flight and the date?

Shana tova to one and all

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Retracing 1946 flight reservations which were cancelled #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

In Dec. 1946 my grandfather who was living in Tel-Aviv made reservation for
my mother and her two children (incl. myself) toctravel TWA >from Tel-Aviv
to NYC via Cairo.

When we arrived in Cairo we were "bumped off" the next leg due to overloaded plane.

Is there any way today to find what were the flights ordered from
Cairo to NYC. Was it a direct flight and the date?

Shana tova to one and all

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


David Bear/Baer #general

Carol Jaffe
 

Genners,

I have in the past looked for my gr uncle David BEAR/BAER 1867-?
without success. David married Jennie IBBOTSON 1872-1925 on 24 Feb
1891. They had 3 children Simon Lee 1893-1971, David Marshall
1904-1999 (aka Marshall BEAR) & Jeanette 1896-1992 who married Thomas
CLAIR and had 1 daughter Joan Caroline 1927-1986 who married a man
with the surname WALKER.

David & Jennie were both born in PA, Jennie died in Pittsburgh. All
of their children died in San Diego, CA.

Did Joan WALKER have children? I would like very much to know when
David died and where he is buried so if he has descendants possibly
they would know.

Many thanks,
Carol M Jaffe, Clearwater, FL
Researching: BAER/BEAR/BAIR, LAVINE, LAZARUS, LOEWENBERG, ROSE/ROSINSKY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen David Bear/Baer #general

Carol Jaffe
 

Genners,

I have in the past looked for my gr uncle David BEAR/BAER 1867-?
without success. David married Jennie IBBOTSON 1872-1925 on 24 Feb
1891. They had 3 children Simon Lee 1893-1971, David Marshall
1904-1999 (aka Marshall BEAR) & Jeanette 1896-1992 who married Thomas
CLAIR and had 1 daughter Joan Caroline 1927-1986 who married a man
with the surname WALKER.

David & Jennie were both born in PA, Jennie died in Pittsburgh. All
of their children died in San Diego, CA.

Did Joan WALKER have children? I would like very much to know when
David died and where he is buried so if he has descendants possibly
they would know.

Many thanks,
Carol M Jaffe, Clearwater, FL
Researching: BAER/BEAR/BAIR, LAVINE, LAZARUS, LOEWENBERG, ROSE/ROSINSKY


Druja Cemetery #lithuania

Edward Rappaport
 

The Jewish cemetery in Druja, Belarus (formerly in Lithuania) has
been restored partially over the past twenty years. A possible
new phase, to include photographing the matzevot there for
genealogical, historical and sentimental purposes, is being
discussed. If you would like to participate in that discussion
then please email me.

Edward N. Rappaport
Pembroke Pines, FL USA
erappapo@bellsouth.net

Researching:
BERMAN NICHAMCHIN LIOZNOV - Druja, Lithuania (now Belarus)
RAPOPORT MUSMAN SZTARKMAN ESZENBAUM FRYDMAN -Warka/Warsaw, Poland
TASIMOWICZ, BACH, MAKOWER, KARPEL, LEMELOW -Nowy Dwor, Maz.Poland
OBOLER, ZISSER/TZISER - Dvinsk, Latvia
WOLINSKY, GITTELMAN - Pavoloch, Ukraine

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Druja (Druya) is part of LitvakSIG's Disna District
Research Group.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Druja Cemetery #lithuania

Edward Rappaport
 

The Jewish cemetery in Druja, Belarus (formerly in Lithuania) has
been restored partially over the past twenty years. A possible
new phase, to include photographing the matzevot there for
genealogical, historical and sentimental purposes, is being
discussed. If you would like to participate in that discussion
then please email me.

Edward N. Rappaport
Pembroke Pines, FL USA
erappapo@bellsouth.net

Researching:
BERMAN NICHAMCHIN LIOZNOV - Druja, Lithuania (now Belarus)
RAPOPORT MUSMAN SZTARKMAN ESZENBAUM FRYDMAN -Warka/Warsaw, Poland
TASIMOWICZ, BACH, MAKOWER, KARPEL, LEMELOW -Nowy Dwor, Maz.Poland
OBOLER, ZISSER/TZISER - Dvinsk, Latvia
WOLINSKY, GITTELMAN - Pavoloch, Ukraine

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Druja (Druya) is part of LitvakSIG's Disna District
Research Group.


Re: Moldova, Moldavia, Bessarabia #romania

Rosanne Leeson
 

There is clearer definition needed to distinguish the present-day
Moldavia region of Romania, which is in Romania, and west of the Prut
River, >from the separate country, the Republic of Moldova, east of the
Prut River. The present day definitions are what are used on JewishGen.
Please notice the difference in spelling.

It is true that in the past the country borders etc. were different.It
is the old story of the man who was born in one country, married in
another, died in a third, and never left home! There are similar
problems with Polish, Galician and German records as well. There are
also the records in the west of what is now Romania, but was formerly
part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. The majority of those civil
records are in Hungarian, and we let the Hungarian SIG work on those.

So, as Sorin has stated, it is important to learn a little history of
the area >from which your family came, to have the most success at
locating their family records. But we do all try to cooperate in
sending you to the best group, if it is possible.

Rosanne Leeson
Coordinator Rom-SIG
---------------------------------------------------

On 9/9/2015 2:07 PM, Yefim A Kogan yefimk@verizon.net wrote:
Dear Researchers,

I have received an email >from Marilyn (you can see part of the message
below), I am responding to the whole Bessarabia SIG, Rom-SIG, Ukraine SIG
and to JewishGen Discussion group. The reason is that I am getting similar
questions all the time, and I understand the confusion of Marilyn and many
other Jewish Genealogists.

My goal is to clear this confusion. If you have questions after my
explanation, please do not hesitate to email me or the whole group.

Let's start with terminology.
The term Moldavia and Moldova mean the same region! Moldova is in Romanian
language and Moldavia was adopted by Russian and other languages, including
English. Charles King in "The Moldovans. Romania, Russia, and the Politics
of Culture", Stanford U., 1999 writes that "It is a myth that Moldova
changed its name >from Moldavia. What happened in the 1990s was simply that
we in the West became better informed about what locals themselves had
always called it."

So let's dive into the history of the region:

Moldavia is known as a country or Principality >from 14 century until 1812.
There were also two other Danube or Romanian Principalities Walachia and
Transilvania. At some point in the history Moldavia joined other
Principalities. In 1538 Moldovia surrendered to Ottoman Empire, and
remained under Turks for about 300 years. It was not a colonization in a
strict sense. Moldavia inhabitants exercise their Christian Orthodoxy,
Turks were not able to settle in the region, except in several fortified
towns on the border, and in far north and south parts of the region.

You can find details about the history, governments of the region at our
Bessarabia SIG website or directly at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Bessarabia/files/HistoryOfJewsInBessarabia15-19c.pd
f

History of Jews in Bessarabia in the 15th to 19th Centuries Geography,
History, Social Status, 2008, Yefim Kogan
You also can find a set of historical maps on Moldova at Wikimedia at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_the_history_of_Moldova
and many more maps and articles on the topic of today?s discussion.

Here is a simple version (I probably missed a few details).
Starting >from 18 century Russia tried to influence Moldavia, occupied it at
the end of 18 century, established military rule, fought many wars on the
territory of Moldova with Ottomans. Finally Moldavia was divided in 1775,
when Austrian Empire occupied part of Moldova - Bukovina, and in 1812
Russian Empire received the eastern part of Moldavia, a region between
rivers Prut and Dnester. That region became Bessarabia Oblast and later in
19c Bessarabia Gubernia (province).

In 1812 the rest of Moldova (western part) was still under Ottoman rule
until Moldavia and Walachia formed Romania. Romania was officially
recognized as an independent country in 1878.

One additional swap of lands: >from 1856-1878 south-western part of
Bessarabia went back to Moldova. That region included towns of Izmail,
Kiliya, Reni, Leovo, Kagul. You can see the map with that region on page 4
of the article above.

Let's follow the history: until WWI nothing changed in the region. After
WWI and Russian Revolution of 1917 and Russian Civil War, the region of
North Bukovina and Bessarabia went back Romanian rule. This is why who ever
lived in Bessarabia in 1920-1940 knows that they were born in Romania, but
in many cases their parents who were born in the same shteitlakh, but before
1917 know that they were born in Russia.

In 1940 Soviet Union took the lands of Bessarabia and North Bukovina back.
This is the time that was formed Moldavskaya Sovetskaya Sotsialisticheskaya
Respublika (MSSR, one of 15 Soviet Republics. MSSR Included most part of
Bessarabia and a small region on the left side of Dniester River, now called
Transnistria (with towns of Tiraspol, Rybnitsa, Kamenka, Slobodzeya,
Rashkov, etc.) Also south region of Bessarabia with towns of Akkerman,
Kiliya, Ismail, Reni, and far north region of Bessarabia with towns of
Khotin, Sokeryani, Klishkivtsi, Novoselitsa, etc. became part of Ukraine
Soviet Republic.

Here is my personal story >from my family who lived in what is Bessarabia for
several centuries:
- I was born in the Soviet Union, Republic of Moldova;
- My parents were born in Romania;
- Grandparents were born in Russian Empire?

What's happening in 1990s you probably know well.

I hope I did not bored you?

Why we are confused?

- Our members are looking for information about their relatives, and they
see that now Bessarabia Vital records database and Bessarabia Revision List
database has more than 250,000 records. But if the towns the relatives live
are Moinesti or Tirgu Ocna no records will be in the Bessarabia Database!

The thing is that the Romania (Moldova) and Bessarabia (Republic of Moldova
+ parts of Ukraine) have different genealogy. Bessarabian records are
written mostly in Russian or Russian and Hebrew, and Romanian (Moldova)
records most likely were written in Romanian.
Also most of the Bessarabian records are held in Chisinau (Kishinev, this
is how I remember that town), and of course the Romanian records are most
likely in Yassy, a provincial center in what used to be Moldova
Principality, and later a large center in Moldova region of Romania.

- The same names Moldova, or Moldavia are used for land in current state of
Romania, that is the western part of Romania, as well as the whole country
of Republic of Moldova.

I have suggested a number of times to JewishGen to avoid at least some of
the confusions:
1. Rename the Romanian Database to Romania-Moldova Database or
Romania-Bessarabia Database
2. At the list of Romanian Databases there is a section Moldavia, but it
should be Romania (Moldavia)
3. The section of Moldavia Vital Records should be renamed Romania
(Moldavia) Vital Records.
I believe that these small modifications will be very helpful.

If you have any questions or probably even more questions than before,
please let's discuss, send to me or to the group.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China



---------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Moldova Cem. Project

Hello Yefim,
I've been following this project and appreciate your more complete break
down in today's Jewishgen Digest. I did contribute to Bob Wascou before he
passed. The reason for this message is that I'm confused. My family were
from Moinesti and Tirgu Ocna, both near each other in Moldova. However,
this area was not Bessarabia. ?..

Can you explain what areas of Moldova are covered other than Bessarabia and
Chisanou (sp.).
Many Thanks,
Marilyn Newman
Florida, formerly Pittsburgh


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Romania SIG #Romania Re: Moldova, Moldavia, Bessarabia #romania

Rosanne Leeson
 

There is clearer definition needed to distinguish the present-day
Moldavia region of Romania, which is in Romania, and west of the Prut
River, >from the separate country, the Republic of Moldova, east of the
Prut River. The present day definitions are what are used on JewishGen.
Please notice the difference in spelling.

It is true that in the past the country borders etc. were different.It
is the old story of the man who was born in one country, married in
another, died in a third, and never left home! There are similar
problems with Polish, Galician and German records as well. There are
also the records in the west of what is now Romania, but was formerly
part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. The majority of those civil
records are in Hungarian, and we let the Hungarian SIG work on those.

So, as Sorin has stated, it is important to learn a little history of
the area >from which your family came, to have the most success at
locating their family records. But we do all try to cooperate in
sending you to the best group, if it is possible.

Rosanne Leeson
Coordinator Rom-SIG
---------------------------------------------------

On 9/9/2015 2:07 PM, Yefim A Kogan yefimk@verizon.net wrote:
Dear Researchers,

I have received an email >from Marilyn (you can see part of the message
below), I am responding to the whole Bessarabia SIG, Rom-SIG, Ukraine SIG
and to JewishGen Discussion group. The reason is that I am getting similar
questions all the time, and I understand the confusion of Marilyn and many
other Jewish Genealogists.

My goal is to clear this confusion. If you have questions after my
explanation, please do not hesitate to email me or the whole group.

Let's start with terminology.
The term Moldavia and Moldova mean the same region! Moldova is in Romanian
language and Moldavia was adopted by Russian and other languages, including
English. Charles King in "The Moldovans. Romania, Russia, and the Politics
of Culture", Stanford U., 1999 writes that "It is a myth that Moldova
changed its name >from Moldavia. What happened in the 1990s was simply that
we in the West became better informed about what locals themselves had
always called it."

So let's dive into the history of the region:

Moldavia is known as a country or Principality >from 14 century until 1812.
There were also two other Danube or Romanian Principalities Walachia and
Transilvania. At some point in the history Moldavia joined other
Principalities. In 1538 Moldovia surrendered to Ottoman Empire, and
remained under Turks for about 300 years. It was not a colonization in a
strict sense. Moldavia inhabitants exercise their Christian Orthodoxy,
Turks were not able to settle in the region, except in several fortified
towns on the border, and in far north and south parts of the region.

You can find details about the history, governments of the region at our
Bessarabia SIG website or directly at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Bessarabia/files/HistoryOfJewsInBessarabia15-19c.pd
f

History of Jews in Bessarabia in the 15th to 19th Centuries Geography,
History, Social Status, 2008, Yefim Kogan
You also can find a set of historical maps on Moldova at Wikimedia at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_the_history_of_Moldova
and many more maps and articles on the topic of today?s discussion.

Here is a simple version (I probably missed a few details).
Starting >from 18 century Russia tried to influence Moldavia, occupied it at
the end of 18 century, established military rule, fought many wars on the
territory of Moldova with Ottomans. Finally Moldavia was divided in 1775,
when Austrian Empire occupied part of Moldova - Bukovina, and in 1812
Russian Empire received the eastern part of Moldavia, a region between
rivers Prut and Dnester. That region became Bessarabia Oblast and later in
19c Bessarabia Gubernia (province).

In 1812 the rest of Moldova (western part) was still under Ottoman rule
until Moldavia and Walachia formed Romania. Romania was officially
recognized as an independent country in 1878.

One additional swap of lands: >from 1856-1878 south-western part of
Bessarabia went back to Moldova. That region included towns of Izmail,
Kiliya, Reni, Leovo, Kagul. You can see the map with that region on page 4
of the article above.

Let's follow the history: until WWI nothing changed in the region. After
WWI and Russian Revolution of 1917 and Russian Civil War, the region of
North Bukovina and Bessarabia went back Romanian rule. This is why who ever
lived in Bessarabia in 1920-1940 knows that they were born in Romania, but
in many cases their parents who were born in the same shteitlakh, but before
1917 know that they were born in Russia.

In 1940 Soviet Union took the lands of Bessarabia and North Bukovina back.
This is the time that was formed Moldavskaya Sovetskaya Sotsialisticheskaya
Respublika (MSSR, one of 15 Soviet Republics. MSSR Included most part of
Bessarabia and a small region on the left side of Dniester River, now called
Transnistria (with towns of Tiraspol, Rybnitsa, Kamenka, Slobodzeya,
Rashkov, etc.) Also south region of Bessarabia with towns of Akkerman,
Kiliya, Ismail, Reni, and far north region of Bessarabia with towns of
Khotin, Sokeryani, Klishkivtsi, Novoselitsa, etc. became part of Ukraine
Soviet Republic.

Here is my personal story >from my family who lived in what is Bessarabia for
several centuries:
- I was born in the Soviet Union, Republic of Moldova;
- My parents were born in Romania;
- Grandparents were born in Russian Empire?

What's happening in 1990s you probably know well.

I hope I did not bored you?

Why we are confused?

- Our members are looking for information about their relatives, and they
see that now Bessarabia Vital records database and Bessarabia Revision List
database has more than 250,000 records. But if the towns the relatives live
are Moinesti or Tirgu Ocna no records will be in the Bessarabia Database!

The thing is that the Romania (Moldova) and Bessarabia (Republic of Moldova
+ parts of Ukraine) have different genealogy. Bessarabian records are
written mostly in Russian or Russian and Hebrew, and Romanian (Moldova)
records most likely were written in Romanian.
Also most of the Bessarabian records are held in Chisinau (Kishinev, this
is how I remember that town), and of course the Romanian records are most
likely in Yassy, a provincial center in what used to be Moldova
Principality, and later a large center in Moldova region of Romania.

- The same names Moldova, or Moldavia are used for land in current state of
Romania, that is the western part of Romania, as well as the whole country
of Republic of Moldova.

I have suggested a number of times to JewishGen to avoid at least some of
the confusions:
1. Rename the Romanian Database to Romania-Moldova Database or
Romania-Bessarabia Database
2. At the list of Romanian Databases there is a section Moldavia, but it
should be Romania (Moldavia)
3. The section of Moldavia Vital Records should be renamed Romania
(Moldavia) Vital Records.
I believe that these small modifications will be very helpful.

If you have any questions or probably even more questions than before,
please let's discuss, send to me or to the group.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China



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Subject: Moldova Cem. Project

Hello Yefim,
I've been following this project and appreciate your more complete break
down in today's Jewishgen Digest. I did contribute to Bob Wascou before he
passed. The reason for this message is that I'm confused. My family were
from Moinesti and Tirgu Ocna, both near each other in Moldova. However,
this area was not Bessarabia. ?..

Can you explain what areas of Moldova are covered other than Bessarabia and
Chisanou (sp.).
Many Thanks,
Marilyn Newman
Florida, formerly Pittsburgh


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Cadastral Map for Strzylki, Galicia 1853 new on Gesher Galicia's Map Room #poland

Pamela Weisberger
 

A new map has been added to Gesher Galicia's Map Room:

Strzy=C5=82ki Cadastral Map 1853

A full-color lithographed cadastral map of the village of Strzylki
(Strilky, Strelki, Strzylki), with the hamlet of Mlyny. By the time
of this survey, Strzylki was already a populated village stretching
along the Dniester River, with a large road connecting Stary Sambor to
Turka on the opposite shore - much as it is today. The map shows only
a single masonry building and no distinct town center, but a large
number of wooden buildings including a church at one end of the
residential area, plus a small nearby Catholic cemetery. Buildings and
land parcels are all clearly numbered; redline revisions to building
and parcel outlines indicate extensive changes in town after the 1853
survey.

Direct link: http://maps.geshergalicia.org/cadastral/strzylki-strilky-1853/

The map room home page is here: http://maps.geshergalicia.org

Thanks for Jay Osborn, GG's cartography specialist.

Pamela Weisberger
Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@gmail.com
http://www.geshergalicia.org


JRI Poland #Poland Cadastral Map for Strzylki, Galicia 1853 new on Gesher Galicia's Map Room #poland

Pamela Weisberger
 

A new map has been added to Gesher Galicia's Map Room:

Strzy=C5=82ki Cadastral Map 1853

A full-color lithographed cadastral map of the village of Strzylki
(Strilky, Strelki, Strzylki), with the hamlet of Mlyny. By the time
of this survey, Strzylki was already a populated village stretching
along the Dniester River, with a large road connecting Stary Sambor to
Turka on the opposite shore - much as it is today. The map shows only
a single masonry building and no distinct town center, but a large
number of wooden buildings including a church at one end of the
residential area, plus a small nearby Catholic cemetery. Buildings and
land parcels are all clearly numbered; redline revisions to building
and parcel outlines indicate extensive changes in town after the 1853
survey.

Direct link: http://maps.geshergalicia.org/cadastral/strzylki-strilky-1853/

The map room home page is here: http://maps.geshergalicia.org

Thanks for Jay Osborn, GG's cartography specialist.

Pamela Weisberger
Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@gmail.com
http://www.geshergalicia.org

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