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Can you help? Volunteers needed.
#lithuania
Dorothy Leivers <dorfleiv@...>
Parliamentary elections were held by the Soviet Authorities in
Lithuania on 14-15 July 1940. Voter turnout was said to be 95 percent. The electorate included persons over the age of 21. One of our members was shown the electoral register for the city of Kaunas. There are 74 books and he photographed 6 of those for us. Using these books, we have begun to create a database of the adult Jewish population in Kaunas prior to the German invasion a year later. Recently, we have acquired the images for four more books. We need volunteers to help database these records. The books are mainly typewritten in the Lithuanian language - i.e. Latin characters. This means that if you can enter data into an excel spreadsheet, you can help us to to database these books. The difference in cost to LitvakSIG in doing these records in-house will be many thousands of dollars and it will mean that Kaunas District Research Group does not have to raise the money to pay translators to do this list. Book one has already been done and there were 1000 entries picked out. The task involves selecting the Jewish names.( When in doubt, include the person). The main fields will be: surname, given name, father's name, age and street address. If you are able to read English and can enter information into the columns of an excel worksheet, we can provide the instructions you need to help us do this work. Please contact me at dorfleiv@... if you think you could give us some of your time to help with this project. The more helpers we have, the sooner we can complete this project. Dorothy Leivers Records Acquistion LitvakSIG
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Can you help? Volunteers needed.
#lithuania
Dorothy Leivers <dorfleiv@...>
Parliamentary elections were held by the Soviet Authorities in
Lithuania on 14-15 July 1940. Voter turnout was said to be 95 percent. The electorate included persons over the age of 21. One of our members was shown the electoral register for the city of Kaunas. There are 74 books and he photographed 6 of those for us. Using these books, we have begun to create a database of the adult Jewish population in Kaunas prior to the German invasion a year later. Recently, we have acquired the images for four more books. We need volunteers to help database these records. The books are mainly typewritten in the Lithuanian language - i.e. Latin characters. This means that if you can enter data into an excel spreadsheet, you can help us to to database these books. The difference in cost to LitvakSIG in doing these records in-house will be many thousands of dollars and it will mean that Kaunas District Research Group does not have to raise the money to pay translators to do this list. Book one has already been done and there were 1000 entries picked out. The task involves selecting the Jewish names.( When in doubt, include the person). The main fields will be: surname, given name, father's name, age and street address. If you are able to read English and can enter information into the columns of an excel worksheet, we can provide the instructions you need to help us do this work. Please contact me at dorfleiv@... if you think you could give us some of your time to help with this project. The more helpers we have, the sooner we can complete this project. Dorothy Leivers Records Acquistion LitvakSIG
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Large Update to the ALD for 4th Quarter 2015
#lithuania
Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
A very large update to the All Lithuania Database (ALD) has been made
for the 4th Quarter of 2015. Below is a summary of these new records which are now searchable in the ALD. The total number of new records is 59,123, which includes Revision Lists, Family Lists, Conscripts, Taxpayer Lists, Passport Issuance records, Draft Lists, Craftsmen Lists, Evictions, Melamed and Pupil Lists, Elector Lists, Postal and State Savings Bank Lists, Births, Marriages, Divorces, Deaths and Internal Passports. The update includes records for Disna District, all towns in Kaunas District, all towns in Lida District, many town in Oshmiany District, many towns in Panevezys District, Jurbarkas in Raseiniai District, Siauliai town, most towns and districts in Suwalki Guberniya, Svencionys town, Telsiai town, several towns in Trakai District, Ukmerge town, Musninkai, Vilnius City, Vilnius District and Vilnius Guberniya, most towns in Zarasai District, several Country-Wide lists and Internal Passports of Jews who originated in Polish lands at that point under German control. We hope you are successful in finding your family. Happy hunting, Eden Joachim Vice President
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Large Update to the ALD for 4th Quarter 2015
#lithuania
Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
A very large update to the All Lithuania Database (ALD) has been made
for the 4th Quarter of 2015. Below is a summary of these new records which are now searchable in the ALD. The total number of new records is 59,123, which includes Revision Lists, Family Lists, Conscripts, Taxpayer Lists, Passport Issuance records, Draft Lists, Craftsmen Lists, Evictions, Melamed and Pupil Lists, Elector Lists, Postal and State Savings Bank Lists, Births, Marriages, Divorces, Deaths and Internal Passports. The update includes records for Disna District, all towns in Kaunas District, all towns in Lida District, many town in Oshmiany District, many towns in Panevezys District, Jurbarkas in Raseiniai District, Siauliai town, most towns and districts in Suwalki Guberniya, Svencionys town, Telsiai town, several towns in Trakai District, Ukmerge town, Musninkai, Vilnius City, Vilnius District and Vilnius Guberniya, most towns in Zarasai District, several Country-Wide lists and Internal Passports of Jews who originated in Polish lands at that point under German control. We hope you are successful in finding your family. Happy hunting, Eden Joachim Vice President
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Re: Pittsburgh Jewish Newspaper Project
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Emily Garber
Risa Becker asked if anyone knew of a comprehensive list of Jewish newspapers.
The Ancestor Hunt blog (Kenneth R. Marks) specializes in newspapers and has a comprehensive list of online Historic Jewish American newspaper sources. http://www.theancestorhunt.com/blog/historic-jewish-american-newspapers-online-updated-2015#.VlEudHtHBNE Shortened URL - http://goo.gl/1G5DiI Emily Garber Phoenix, AZ
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pittsburgh Jewish Newspaper Project
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Emily Garber
Risa Becker asked if anyone knew of a comprehensive list of Jewish newspapers.
The Ancestor Hunt blog (Kenneth R. Marks) specializes in newspapers and has a comprehensive list of online Historic Jewish American newspaper sources. http://www.theancestorhunt.com/blog/historic-jewish-american-newspapers-online-updated-2015#.VlEudHtHBNE Shortened URL - http://goo.gl/1G5DiI Emily Garber Phoenix, AZ
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Searching for Information on Richter Musicians from Chrzanow
#galicia
RICHTER GROUP <richter@...>
Dear Gesher Galicia members,
I am searching for information on my immediate family during the period they lived in Chrzanow. I have only limited information on my paternal grandparents, Mordechai Markus Jakub RICHTER (b 1868 Chrzanow, d 1941 Danzig) and Brandle nee SCHMEIDLER (b 1870, d 1929 Chrzanow). They had 5 children: David RICHTER (b 1896 Chrzanow, d 1964 Canada), violin player Ester URBACH (nee RICHTER) (b 1897 Chrzanow, d 1943 Danzig) Josef RICHTER (b 1908 Chrzanow, d 1985 Israel), violin player with his 6-person band and identical twin Henry RICHTER (b 1908 Chrzanow, d 1998 USA), violin player in his "Original Tanzer Jazz" band Yehoshua Szyja-Mojzesz RICHTER (b 1910 Chrzanow, d 1984 Israel), barber by trade, my father The famous violinist, Julius RICHTER, was in some way related to the family. Any information will be appreciated. Thank you, Dr. Bernard Richter Australia richter@...
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Searching for Information on Richter Musicians from Chrzanow
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RICHTER GROUP <richter@...>
Dear Gesher Galicia members,
I am searching for information on my immediate family during the period they lived in Chrzanow. I have only limited information on my paternal grandparents, Mordechai Markus Jakub RICHTER (b 1868 Chrzanow, d 1941 Danzig) and Brandle nee SCHMEIDLER (b 1870, d 1929 Chrzanow). They had 5 children: David RICHTER (b 1896 Chrzanow, d 1964 Canada), violin player Ester URBACH (nee RICHTER) (b 1897 Chrzanow, d 1943 Danzig) Josef RICHTER (b 1908 Chrzanow, d 1985 Israel), violin player with his 6-person band and identical twin Henry RICHTER (b 1908 Chrzanow, d 1998 USA), violin player in his "Original Tanzer Jazz" band Yehoshua Szyja-Mojzesz RICHTER (b 1910 Chrzanow, d 1984 Israel), barber by trade, my father The famous violinist, Julius RICHTER, was in some way related to the family. Any information will be appreciated. Thank you, Dr. Bernard Richter Australia richter@...
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: Researching: descendants of my mother's Sister Sadie in New York
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Ilan Leibowitz
Shalom,
My name is Ilan Leibowitz and I'm searching for any information concerning the descendants of my mother's Sister Sadie! She lived in the New York area I know in the 1940's and 1950's The following is some basic information on her and her children. Which group or to what link can I send my request for research: Sadie lived in New York and had 4 children. If still alive, they would be in their 70's and early 80's. One was named Deanna and the boys were Raymond, Buddy and another son? Either her marriage name was Cohen or Cohen was the family name of my Grandmother Rebecca's first marriage? Can you possibly suggest how I might possibly locate any connections? Thank you, Ilan Leibowitz Kibbutz Afikim Israel Maya@... MODERATOR NOTE: Ilan, your first move should be to register the names and places you are researching wih the JewishGen Family Finder: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ This will let people find you and assist you with your research.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen : Researching: descendants of my mother's Sister Sadie in New York
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Ilan Leibowitz
Shalom,
My name is Ilan Leibowitz and I'm searching for any information concerning the descendants of my mother's Sister Sadie! She lived in the New York area I know in the 1940's and 1950's The following is some basic information on her and her children. Which group or to what link can I send my request for research: Sadie lived in New York and had 4 children. If still alive, they would be in their 70's and early 80's. One was named Deanna and the boys were Raymond, Buddy and another son? Either her marriage name was Cohen or Cohen was the family name of my Grandmother Rebecca's first marriage? Can you possibly suggest how I might possibly locate any connections? Thank you, Ilan Leibowitz Kibbutz Afikim Israel Maya@... MODERATOR NOTE: Ilan, your first move should be to register the names and places you are researching wih the JewishGen Family Finder: http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/ This will let people find you and assist you with your research.
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Re: Ellis Island Arrival Record - Shostak - 1907
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valerie@...
Thanks Allan and all who helped. Another researcher found them and the
name was listed as Yettel Schostch! I never would have found it without your help, thanks again. Valerie On 2015-11-21 08:24, A. Jordan wrote: -----Original Message----- snip.............
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ellis Island Arrival Record - Shostak - 1907
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valerie@...
Thanks Allan and all who helped. Another researcher found them and the
name was listed as Yettel Schostch! I never would have found it without your help, thanks again. Valerie On 2015-11-21 08:24, A. Jordan wrote: -----Original Message----- snip.............
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Re: Ellis Island Arrival Record - Shostak - 1907
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Bruce Brown <bbrown999@...>
Ellis Island Arrival Record - Shostak - 1907
The preferred method of searching for Jewish last names in Ancestry is to check off the "exact, sounds like, similar and soundex" option boxes OR setting the search filter slider bar to the far left, "broad" setting. Using findmypast.com, always check the "name variant" box. This resulted in finding the family indexed as both SCHUSTAK and SCHOSTAK arriving NY on the Campania January 20, 1907. Bruce J Brown Falls Church VA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ellis Island Arrival Record - Shostak - 1907
#general
Bruce Brown <bbrown999@...>
Ellis Island Arrival Record - Shostak - 1907
The preferred method of searching for Jewish last names in Ancestry is to check off the "exact, sounds like, similar and soundex" option boxes OR setting the search filter slider bar to the far left, "broad" setting. Using findmypast.com, always check the "name variant" box. This resulted in finding the family indexed as both SCHUSTAK and SCHOSTAK arriving NY on the Campania January 20, 1907. Bruce J Brown Falls Church VA
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Re: Ellis Island Arrival Record Shostak 1907
#general
Phyllis Kramer
"Valerie Chereskin" <valerie@... wrote
"I have searched using every possible spelling and using Steve Morse's directory but can not find a record of my grandmother's arrival, can you help?My grandmother, Goldie Shostak, came >from the Ukraine with her mother Gettel or Gittel Shostak in 1907. I found the 1910 census record for them in Lincoln City, Nebraska and it lists their arrival as 1907.Thank you for any suggestions or help with this. hi valerie...the census lists the gittel and goldie shortak arriving in 1907, with morris coming in 1903. Its really a good idea to round our the query with their years of birth (gittel was 52-1848) and Goldie was 14-1896. I wouldnt assume they entered through ellis island...although that is where the majority of jews entered...if not found there, i would seriously look for alternative ports using ancestry and familysearch and take advantage of their wonderful wildcards...because shostak could easily be a change in spelling. for instance...goldie shuster, 11 (1896), came in thru quebec in august of 1907 along with sisters and mother fannie...32 (1875)...you might want to look into this manifest i wouild search for morris too...he is on the census coming in 1903. And look into the other shostaks living in lincoln nebrasha...perhaps that is why they went there? Phyllis Kramer, nyc & palm beach gardens florida vp, education, JewishGen
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ellis Island Arrival Record Shostak 1907
#general
Phyllis Kramer
"Valerie Chereskin" <valerie@... wrote
"I have searched using every possible spelling and using Steve Morse's directory but can not find a record of my grandmother's arrival, can you help?My grandmother, Goldie Shostak, came >from the Ukraine with her mother Gettel or Gittel Shostak in 1907. I found the 1910 census record for them in Lincoln City, Nebraska and it lists their arrival as 1907.Thank you for any suggestions or help with this. hi valerie...the census lists the gittel and goldie shortak arriving in 1907, with morris coming in 1903. Its really a good idea to round our the query with their years of birth (gittel was 52-1848) and Goldie was 14-1896. I wouldnt assume they entered through ellis island...although that is where the majority of jews entered...if not found there, i would seriously look for alternative ports using ancestry and familysearch and take advantage of their wonderful wildcards...because shostak could easily be a change in spelling. for instance...goldie shuster, 11 (1896), came in thru quebec in august of 1907 along with sisters and mother fannie...32 (1875)...you might want to look into this manifest i wouild search for morris too...he is on the census coming in 1903. And look into the other shostaks living in lincoln nebrasha...perhaps that is why they went there? Phyllis Kramer, nyc & palm beach gardens florida vp, education, JewishGen
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Ellis Island Arrival Record - Shostak - 1907
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bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
Valerie Chereskin wrote:
< I have searched using every possible spelling and using Steve Morse's directory but can not find a record of my grandmother's arrival... My grandmother, Goldie Shostak, came >from the Ukraine with her mother Gettel or Gittel Shostak in 1907. I found the 1910 census record for them in Lincoln City, Nebraska and it lists their arrival as 1907. > ----- To find an arrival manifest knowing only one census immigration year that may not be exact, it is necessary to obtain all possible family documents. Goldie SHOSTAK married Harry MARKS on 09 Mar 1918 in Chicago. Her arrival date in the 1920 and 1930 censuses is also 1907. Goldie Marks' naturalization index card on 04 Feb 1930 in Chicago lists date and port of arrival as Jan 20, 1907 New York, which was required to be verified by a Certificate of Arrival. Gitel, Rafael, Nese and Golde SCHUSTAK arrived 20 Jan 1907 on the Campania from Liverpool to join son/brother in Lincoln, Nebraska. The family was heldfor Special Inquiry and admitted on January 25. Gitel and Goldie's ship manifest lists last residence and birthplace as Korsan, Russia. Goldie's brother Morris on his WWI draft registration as Mayer SHOSTAK in Lincoln said he was born in Kiev, Russia. Meyer SHOSTAK arrived 19 May 1903 on the Patricia >from Hamburg, last residence Kerson, Russia, destination Lincoln, Nebraska, to join his brother-in-law. Kherson, Russia is now Kherson, Ukraine. Valerie should list herself in JewishGen Family Finder as a SHOSTAK >from Kherson, Ukraine (rather than Any, Ukraine) researcher. Without the additional documents >from Ancestry, it would not have been so easy to find Goldie and Gitel's ship manifest. Many more family documents remain to be found. Bette Stoop Mas USA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ellis Island Arrival Record - Shostak - 1907
#general
bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
Valerie Chereskin wrote:
< I have searched using every possible spelling and using Steve Morse's directory but can not find a record of my grandmother's arrival... My grandmother, Goldie Shostak, came >from the Ukraine with her mother Gettel or Gittel Shostak in 1907. I found the 1910 census record for them in Lincoln City, Nebraska and it lists their arrival as 1907. > ----- To find an arrival manifest knowing only one census immigration year that may not be exact, it is necessary to obtain all possible family documents. Goldie SHOSTAK married Harry MARKS on 09 Mar 1918 in Chicago. Her arrival date in the 1920 and 1930 censuses is also 1907. Goldie Marks' naturalization index card on 04 Feb 1930 in Chicago lists date and port of arrival as Jan 20, 1907 New York, which was required to be verified by a Certificate of Arrival. Gitel, Rafael, Nese and Golde SCHUSTAK arrived 20 Jan 1907 on the Campania from Liverpool to join son/brother in Lincoln, Nebraska. The family was heldfor Special Inquiry and admitted on January 25. Gitel and Goldie's ship manifest lists last residence and birthplace as Korsan, Russia. Goldie's brother Morris on his WWI draft registration as Mayer SHOSTAK in Lincoln said he was born in Kiev, Russia. Meyer SHOSTAK arrived 19 May 1903 on the Patricia >from Hamburg, last residence Kerson, Russia, destination Lincoln, Nebraska, to join his brother-in-law. Kherson, Russia is now Kherson, Ukraine. Valerie should list herself in JewishGen Family Finder as a SHOSTAK >from Kherson, Ukraine (rather than Any, Ukraine) researcher. Without the additional documents >from Ancestry, it would not have been so easy to find Goldie and Gitel's ship manifest. Many more family documents remain to be found. Bette Stoop Mas USA
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Re: Ellis Island Arrival Record - Shostak - 1907
#general
A. E. Jordan
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From: Valerie Chereskin I found the 1910 census record for them in Lincoln City, Nebraska and it lists their arrival as 1907. Well that is your first problem -- do not trust the Census especially on things such as arrival dates. People did not always remember the details nor did the records always get written down correctly. There are so many possibilities. Maybe they did not understand the question and though the person meant when did you arrive in Nebraska instead of the USA. Maybe they did not remember or maybe they so oh we have been here for years and the census taker decided that meant three years. Take the 1907 as a clue but not a fact. What makes you certain they came in via Ellis Island? They could have come in via Boston or a half dozen major ports in the USA. Also a lot of people going to the midwest went via Canada and the railroad. Did they have any family members they were going to when they arrived? Did you look for those family members especially if there is a 1905 census for where ever they were living. The obvious is that they used variations of the names you think they used or the spelling and transcription into the modern index is a a problem. It might be as simple as the names are reverse with the family name and forename switched around. Have you tried looking for things like a naturalization record? If either of the women filed for naturalization the forms would have asked for arrival details. Do you have any idea where they would have been coming >from to the USA? The Hamburg lists survive so if they might have come >from Hamburg you might want to look at those departure lists. Don't give up but widen the search parameters and also question your assumptions in doing the search. Start with simple things like only using family names and widen the age parameters, etc. and expand the use of wildcards. If that does not work go further and don't trust memories or notes or even second hand sources. Allan Jordan
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ellis Island Arrival Record - Shostak - 1907
#general
A. E. Jordan
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-----Original Message-----
From: Valerie Chereskin I found the 1910 census record for them in Lincoln City, Nebraska and it lists their arrival as 1907. Well that is your first problem -- do not trust the Census especially on things such as arrival dates. People did not always remember the details nor did the records always get written down correctly. There are so many possibilities. Maybe they did not understand the question and though the person meant when did you arrive in Nebraska instead of the USA. Maybe they did not remember or maybe they so oh we have been here for years and the census taker decided that meant three years. Take the 1907 as a clue but not a fact. What makes you certain they came in via Ellis Island? They could have come in via Boston or a half dozen major ports in the USA. Also a lot of people going to the midwest went via Canada and the railroad. Did they have any family members they were going to when they arrived? Did you look for those family members especially if there is a 1905 census for where ever they were living. The obvious is that they used variations of the names you think they used or the spelling and transcription into the modern index is a a problem. It might be as simple as the names are reverse with the family name and forename switched around. Have you tried looking for things like a naturalization record? If either of the women filed for naturalization the forms would have asked for arrival details. Do you have any idea where they would have been coming >from to the USA? The Hamburg lists survive so if they might have come >from Hamburg you might want to look at those departure lists. Don't give up but widen the search parameters and also question your assumptions in doing the search. Start with simple things like only using family names and widen the age parameters, etc. and expand the use of wildcards. If that does not work go further and don't trust memories or notes or even second hand sources. Allan Jordan
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