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Re: a puzzle #ukraine

Toby Glickman <tglickman@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Thank you all who responded to my posting. I now have several new
directions to go in my research.
Toby Glickman

On 5/3/2016 8:37 AM, Toby Glickman wrote:

Dear Genners,
My grandmother emigrated to New York in 1921 >from Dubno, where my
mother and her sisters were born. In many years of searching, I have
been unable to find any records whatsoever for the family, even under
alternate spellings of the family name, BUNIS. I have discovered
other Bunises, but none of the given names or dates match. I know
that the Jewish population was destroyed in the Holocaust, but I don't
understand how there can be no trace at all of the family, given that
Dubno is a well-known and well-researched city. Can anyone help me
with this?
Thank you.
Toby Glickman
Queens, New York
researching BUNIS, EISENGART, AJZENGARD
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine re: a puzzle #ukraine

Toby Glickman <tglickman@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Thank you all who responded to my posting. I now have several new
directions to go in my research.
Toby Glickman

On 5/3/2016 8:37 AM, Toby Glickman wrote:

Dear Genners,
My grandmother emigrated to New York in 1921 >from Dubno, where my
mother and her sisters were born. In many years of searching, I have
been unable to find any records whatsoever for the family, even under
alternate spellings of the family name, BUNIS. I have discovered
other Bunises, but none of the given names or dates match. I know
that the Jewish population was destroyed in the Holocaust, but I don't
understand how there can be no trace at all of the family, given that
Dubno is a well-known and well-researched city. Can anyone help me
with this?
Thank you.
Toby Glickman
Queens, New York
researching BUNIS, EISENGART, AJZENGARD
1816/18 Revision Lists for Orlya, Rozhanka and Zheludok (in the Lida District) now translated #lithuania

Jrbaston
 

Dear fellow Lida District researchers:

I've just uploaded to the LitvakSIG Lida District Research Group
site (https://lidadistrict.shutterfly.com) the translations of
the 1816/18 Revision List for the towns of Orlya, Rozhanka
and Zheludok. There are 249 listings for Orlya, 300 for
Rozhanka and 372 for Zheludok.

The surnames for these lists are on the site's homepage
under the section marked Surname Lists.

Because this was early in the time Jews in this area were
getting surnames, I cross-checked the names in this file
with the translation of the 1834 Revision List for those towns.
When I could confirm the listings were for the same family, I
indicated spelling variants, putting the 1834 version in square
brackets, i.e., BORODICH / [BORODZITSKI].

Although these translations will eventually be publicly searchable
in the LitvakSIG All Lithuania Database and JewishGen Belarus
Database, they are currently available only to qualified participants
of the LitvakSIG Lida District Research Group.

To become part of the LitvakSIG Lida District Research Group, go to
https://www.litvaksig.org/membership-and-contributions/join-and-contribute/
click on "Research Groups for Districts and Gubernias" and choose
the Lida District.

A contribution of $100 US will guarantee you immediate access to
translations of records >from all Lida District towns -- new and old --
through December 31, 2020. So far the LitvakSIG Lida District
Research Group has translated records for more than 85,000
of our Lida District family members.

The Orlya, Rozhanka and Zheldok lists make nine of the 12 official
towns of registration in the Lida District for which the 1816/18 Revision
List has been translated. Still remaining are the lists for Belitsa, Novy Dwor
and Shchuchin. Your contribution to the LitvakSIG Lida District Research
Group will help ensure that we can complete the 1816/18 Revision List,
as well as translating additional records for Lida District towns.

Please do let me know if you have any questions about this list.

Judy Baston, Coordinator,
LitvakSIG Lida District Research Group
JRBaston@aol.com
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania 1816/18 Revision Lists for Orlya, Rozhanka and Zheludok (in the Lida District) now translated #lithuania

Jrbaston
 

Dear fellow Lida District researchers:

I've just uploaded to the LitvakSIG Lida District Research Group
site (https://lidadistrict.shutterfly.com) the translations of
the 1816/18 Revision List for the towns of Orlya, Rozhanka
and Zheludok. There are 249 listings for Orlya, 300 for
Rozhanka and 372 for Zheludok.

The surnames for these lists are on the site's homepage
under the section marked Surname Lists.

Because this was early in the time Jews in this area were
getting surnames, I cross-checked the names in this file
with the translation of the 1834 Revision List for those towns.
When I could confirm the listings were for the same family, I
indicated spelling variants, putting the 1834 version in square
brackets, i.e., BORODICH / [BORODZITSKI].

Although these translations will eventually be publicly searchable
in the LitvakSIG All Lithuania Database and JewishGen Belarus
Database, they are currently available only to qualified participants
of the LitvakSIG Lida District Research Group.

To become part of the LitvakSIG Lida District Research Group, go to
https://www.litvaksig.org/membership-and-contributions/join-and-contribute/
click on "Research Groups for Districts and Gubernias" and choose
the Lida District.

A contribution of $100 US will guarantee you immediate access to
translations of records >from all Lida District towns -- new and old --
through December 31, 2020. So far the LitvakSIG Lida District
Research Group has translated records for more than 85,000
of our Lida District family members.

The Orlya, Rozhanka and Zheldok lists make nine of the 12 official
towns of registration in the Lida District for which the 1816/18 Revision
List has been translated. Still remaining are the lists for Belitsa, Novy Dwor
and Shchuchin. Your contribution to the LitvakSIG Lida District Research
Group will help ensure that we can complete the 1816/18 Revision List,
as well as translating additional records for Lida District towns.

Please do let me know if you have any questions about this list.

Judy Baston, Coordinator,
LitvakSIG Lida District Research Group
JRBaston@aol.com
Nemajunai is in which District? #lithuania

Jerry Zeisler <jzeisler@...>
 

I'm a bit confused. Can someone advise as to which district Nemajunai
belongs? Before WWI, it belonged to Trakai, but today it appears in
Alytus. Since I don't see a listing for the shtetl in any of the listed
districts on the SIG District/Gubernia Research page, I'm unsure where
it belongs.

Thanks.

Jerry Zeisler
Olympia, Washington USA
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Nemajunai is in which District? #lithuania

Jerry Zeisler <jzeisler@...>
 

I'm a bit confused. Can someone advise as to which district Nemajunai
belongs? Before WWI, it belonged to Trakai, but today it appears in
Alytus. Since I don't see a listing for the shtetl in any of the listed
districts on the SIG District/Gubernia Research page, I'm unsure where
it belongs.

Thanks.

Jerry Zeisler
Olympia, Washington USA
New Internal Passports File for Vilnius Received #lithuania

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

A new file of Vilnius Internal Passports was received today. The file
contains 1242 entries, numbered JU41763-JU42442.

The file is on the Vilnius Internal Passports Shutterfly website on the Data
page.

If you are not yet a qualifying contributor to the Vilnius Internal Passport
project, you may make your $100 contribution on the LitvakSIG website at
https://www.litvaksig.org/membership-and-contributions/join-and-contribute/.

Scroll down and select Special Project, then choose Internal Passports from
the drop-down list.

These passports will become freely searchable in the LitvakSIG All Lithuania
Database (ALD) and the JewishGen Lithuania Database in about 18 months.

Our thanks to MyHeritage for their financial support in making these records
available.

Happy hunting,

Eden Joachim
Coordinator, IP Project
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania New Internal Passports File for Vilnius Received #lithuania

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

A new file of Vilnius Internal Passports was received today. The file
contains 1242 entries, numbered JU41763-JU42442.

The file is on the Vilnius Internal Passports Shutterfly website on the Data
page.

If you are not yet a qualifying contributor to the Vilnius Internal Passport
project, you may make your $100 contribution on the LitvakSIG website at
https://www.litvaksig.org/membership-and-contributions/join-and-contribute/.

Scroll down and select Special Project, then choose Internal Passports from
the drop-down list.

These passports will become freely searchable in the LitvakSIG All Lithuania
Database (ALD) and the JewishGen Lithuania Database in about 18 months.

Our thanks to MyHeritage for their financial support in making these records
available.

Happy hunting,

Eden Joachim
Coordinator, IP Project
Re: Inferences from marker comparisons #dna

rayvenna@...
 

I think that as more people are tested, we're doing to see more results
like this. I have had 4 known and documented Splaver relatives (up to
4th cousins) Y-DNA tested. They vary by as much as 4 markers at the
Y-DNA 37 level.

I suspect that we're going to be greatly revising "what would be
expected" over the next few years.

Warmest regards,
Mindie Kaplan
Gaithersburg, Maryland

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph N Baer ursusminor@verizon.net"
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:00:02 PM

For several reasons, I had two of my fourth cousins take Y-chromosome
tests at the 37-marker level. That is, the three of us are great-great-
grandsons of three brothers, Abraham BAER, David BAER, and Lazarus BAER
(me). It turns out that I differ by a genetic distance of 3 and 4 >from
the two them, and they differ by 3 >from each other, which is more than
what would be expected.

On all but one marker where we don't all agree, two of us agree and one
doesn't. E.g., on marker one, our values are 12, 13, and 12. Would it
be a safe bet that the value common between the two us that agree is
also the value which our mutual great-great-great-grandfather, Marx
Nathan BAER had? I would think that even if two us had mutations in the
same marker in the last five generations, it would not be the same
mutation.

The marker where we all differ is #35. The three of us have in
combination with #34 values of 34-35-37, 34-35, and 34-38. Can anything
be said of what the most likely value for our mutual ancestor was?

It would be interesting if I could find a male-line descendant of the
last brother, Kaufmann BAER, of my great-great-grandfather.
DNA Research #DNA Re: Inferences from marker comparisons #dna

rayvenna@...
 

I think that as more people are tested, we're doing to see more results
like this. I have had 4 known and documented Splaver relatives (up to
4th cousins) Y-DNA tested. They vary by as much as 4 markers at the
Y-DNA 37 level.

I suspect that we're going to be greatly revising "what would be
expected" over the next few years.

Warmest regards,
Mindie Kaplan
Gaithersburg, Maryland

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph N Baer ursusminor@verizon.net"
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:00:02 PM

For several reasons, I had two of my fourth cousins take Y-chromosome
tests at the 37-marker level. That is, the three of us are great-great-
grandsons of three brothers, Abraham BAER, David BAER, and Lazarus BAER
(me). It turns out that I differ by a genetic distance of 3 and 4 >from
the two them, and they differ by 3 >from each other, which is more than
what would be expected.

On all but one marker where we don't all agree, two of us agree and one
doesn't. E.g., on marker one, our values are 12, 13, and 12. Would it
be a safe bet that the value common between the two us that agree is
also the value which our mutual great-great-great-grandfather, Marx
Nathan BAER had? I would think that even if two us had mutations in the
same marker in the last five generations, it would not be the same
mutation.

The marker where we all differ is #35. The three of us have in
combination with #34 values of 34-35-37, 34-35, and 34-38. Can anything
be said of what the most likely value for our mutual ancestor was?

It would be interesting if I could find a male-line descendant of the
last brother, Kaufmann BAER, of my great-great-grandfather.
Viewmate translation request - Russian annotation on a Polish birth record #general

David Scriven
 

I have posted a Russian/Ukranian annotation dated 1940 that I found on
a birth record >from a woman born in Drohobych in 1911
I would like to know what it says. It is on ViewMate at the following
address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM46568
Any help would be appreciated

Thank you,
David Scriven

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate translation request - Russian annotation on a Polish birth record #general

David Scriven
 

I have posted a Russian/Ukranian annotation dated 1940 that I found on
a birth record >from a woman born in Drohobych in 1911
I would like to know what it says. It is on ViewMate at the following
address:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM46568
Any help would be appreciated

Thank you,
David Scriven

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
Military draft in Galicia #general

Nicole Yossefi <nicole.y.de.c@...>
 

Hello to all
where can I find information about jewish military draft in Galicia 1900-1918?
and someone knows who would be drafted and for how many years was the
military service?
many thanks,
Nicole Yossefi.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Military draft in Galicia #general

Nicole Yossefi <nicole.y.de.c@...>
 

Hello to all
where can I find information about jewish military draft in Galicia 1900-1918?
and someone knows who would be drafted and for how many years was the
military service?
many thanks,
Nicole Yossefi.
Given Names Of Jewish Females In Damascus 1583-1909 #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,

I just published a short article on this topic in Avotaynuonline.

Here is the link

http://www.avotaynuonline.com/2016/05/4452/

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Given Names Of Jewish Females In Damascus 1583-1909 #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,

I just published a short article on this topic in Avotaynuonline.

Here is the link

http://www.avotaynuonline.com/2016/05/4452/

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem
Louis SCHWARTZ, Hungary --> Manhattan #general

Joan
 

Hi,

Louis Schwartz, my great grandfather lived in Manhattan and passed away in
Manhattan after coming >from Hungary, I believe in around 1870 or so. The
only thing I really know about him is that he married twice, my
grandfather's mother was his second wife -- Rosie Weiss. I think I found
their marriage certificate -- says they married in 1885. By 1916 when my
grandfather enlisted in WWI, the city directory says his mother was a widow.
I have tried every database I can and can't find a death certificate or
burial place. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Joan Silverman
Reseaching: David GOLDBERG, Jacob SILVERMAN
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Louis SCHWARTZ, Hungary --> Manhattan #general

Joan
 

Hi,

Louis Schwartz, my great grandfather lived in Manhattan and passed away in
Manhattan after coming >from Hungary, I believe in around 1870 or so. The
only thing I really know about him is that he married twice, my
grandfather's mother was his second wife -- Rosie Weiss. I think I found
their marriage certificate -- says they married in 1885. By 1916 when my
grandfather enlisted in WWI, the city directory says his mother was a widow.
I have tried every database I can and can't find a death certificate or
burial place. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Joan Silverman
Reseaching: David GOLDBERG, Jacob SILVERMAN
Re: Sing Sing Execution: "Death Certificate & Burial"-- more questions #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Marilyn Robinson asked about obtaining a death certificate for somebody
who was executed in Sing Sing prison in Ossining, N.Y., in 1918.

There's no law against the town clerk in Ossining giving somebody a copy
of a death certificate at that time. Death certificates in New York are
public documents after 50 years. However, I'm not sure if there's any
requirement for town clerks to make death certificates available, since
they are available >from the New York State Department of Health. (I'm a
little surprised that the clerk simply said no, perhaps there was a
specific reason. But thinking like a bureaucrat behind a desk, not a
genealogist, I can envision this happening.)

The details for getting a death certificate >from the New York State
Department of Health are at

https://www.health.ny.gov/vital_records/genealogy.htm

First read the "Ordering a genealogy copy" section, and then print the
form in the section below that. If you don't have a printer, you can
request the form by mail. The National Archives branch in New York City
does *not* have these death certificates - they have only the index,
which gives the name, date, certificate number, and town.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Sing Sing Execution: "Death Certificate & Burial"-- more questions #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Marilyn Robinson asked about obtaining a death certificate for somebody
who was executed in Sing Sing prison in Ossining, N.Y., in 1918.

There's no law against the town clerk in Ossining giving somebody a copy
of a death certificate at that time. Death certificates in New York are
public documents after 50 years. However, I'm not sure if there's any
requirement for town clerks to make death certificates available, since
they are available >from the New York State Department of Health. (I'm a
little surprised that the clerk simply said no, perhaps there was a
specific reason. But thinking like a bureaucrat behind a desk, not a
genealogist, I can envision this happening.)

The details for getting a death certificate >from the New York State
Department of Health are at

https://www.health.ny.gov/vital_records/genealogy.htm

First read the "Ordering a genealogy copy" section, and then print the
form in the section below that. If you don't have a printer, you can
request the form by mail. The National Archives branch in New York City
does *not* have these death certificates - they have only the index,
which gives the name, date, certificate number, and town.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.
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