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Prizefighter Benny LEONARD (LEINER) #general

Madeleine Sann <madeleine.sann@...>
 

I have been trying to run down family lore that we are related to the prize
fighter Benny LEONARD. I know that his name was actually LEINER and that
he had relatives living on the same small Brooklyn street as close SANN
and LEHNER relatives of mine. I'm in touch with someone in the Leiner family
(not Benny's branch) who heard the same stories.

Any guidance would be much appreciated. (We've already done autosomal testing.
We are seeking an appropriate Lehner male to run a Y chromosome test. The
family lived largely in New York City and the Midwest, especially Indiana.)

Madeleine Sann
Philadelphia PA
and
West Bath ME

Researching SANN, SAN, SAHN and KOLBER >from Rymanow, Zarszyn, and Sanok,
LEHNER/LEINER >from Dukla, BACHNER/FRIEDMAN/HERBST/ENGLANDER >from Nowy
Sacz, EINHORN >from Limanowa, Milowka, Niedzica, and Hungary,
HELLER/FEJFER >from Kolo, KORNHAUSER/FARBER >from Labowa and Nowy Sacz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Prizefighter Benny LEONARD (LEINER) #general

Madeleine Sann <madeleine.sann@...>
 

I have been trying to run down family lore that we are related to the prize
fighter Benny LEONARD. I know that his name was actually LEINER and that
he had relatives living on the same small Brooklyn street as close SANN
and LEHNER relatives of mine. I'm in touch with someone in the Leiner family
(not Benny's branch) who heard the same stories.

Any guidance would be much appreciated. (We've already done autosomal testing.
We are seeking an appropriate Lehner male to run a Y chromosome test. The
family lived largely in New York City and the Midwest, especially Indiana.)

Madeleine Sann
Philadelphia PA
and
West Bath ME

Researching SANN, SAN, SAHN and KOLBER >from Rymanow, Zarszyn, and Sanok,
LEHNER/LEINER >from Dukla, BACHNER/FRIEDMAN/HERBST/ENGLANDER >from Nowy
Sacz, EINHORN >from Limanowa, Milowka, Niedzica, and Hungary,
HELLER/FEJFER >from Kolo, KORNHAUSER/FARBER >from Labowa and Nowy Sacz


Virtual Jewish Baseball Museum [was Sandy KOUFAX / KOVAC / KUSZNER] #general

Trudy Barch
 

Recently in the Chicago JUF monthly news was an article about a virtual
Jewish baseball museum. Maybe that will help you. It is a very
interesting article. jewishbaseballmuseum.com

Trudy Barch, Chicagoland


David Price <dprice@sympatico.ca> wrote (8 Jun 2016) ...

I need to contact Douglas Allen KASS ...
He claims that he and Sandy KOUFAX share the same grandparents. It is
critical that I know their first names to prove my ties to Sandy. ...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Virtual Jewish Baseball Museum [was Sandy KOUFAX / KOVAC / KUSZNER] #general

Trudy Barch
 

Recently in the Chicago JUF monthly news was an article about a virtual
Jewish baseball museum. Maybe that will help you. It is a very
interesting article. jewishbaseballmuseum.com

Trudy Barch, Chicagoland


David Price <dprice@sympatico.ca> wrote (8 Jun 2016) ...

I need to contact Douglas Allen KASS ...
He claims that he and Sandy KOUFAX share the same grandparents. It is
critical that I know their first names to prove my ties to Sandy. ...


Bluma LEIBOVITS DEUTSCH #general

Ari Dale <ari@...>
 

Bluma LEIBOVITS (d. 1944 Auschwitz) was the second wife of Itshak
DEUTSCH of Velke Berezne, Carpathian Ukraine. They married c1932-33.
Bluma's sister, Hanko, is said to have survived, come to Israel, married
a pilot named Dov and had a daughter named Tsila; the family lived in
Beer Sheba for some period. We would like to make contact with Bluma's
relatives.

Ari Dale

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bluma LEIBOVITS DEUTSCH #general

Ari Dale <ari@...>
 

Bluma LEIBOVITS (d. 1944 Auschwitz) was the second wife of Itshak
DEUTSCH of Velke Berezne, Carpathian Ukraine. They married c1932-33.
Bluma's sister, Hanko, is said to have survived, come to Israel, married
a pilot named Dov and had a daughter named Tsila; the family lived in
Beer Sheba for some period. We would like to make contact with Bluma's
relatives.

Ari Dale

MODERATOR:
- Please send contact information to Ari directly.
- A reminder that (a) all submissions must be signed (last name, plus
first name or initial) by the sender, and (b) that family names (and
*only* family names) should be capitalized, for easier scanning by our
6,000+ subscribers.


Bessarabia Revision Lists #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

To all Bessarabia/Moldova researchers:

I want to let you know what is going on with the Bessarabia Revision
Project.

You may saw already the latest update of the Revision records which will be
send to JewishGen by the end of the month.
http://www.jewishgen.org/Bessarabia/files/databases/RevisionMay2016.pdf

Since I put this table online we have finished 3002 records for Kishinev
1859, these records were in a different microfilm and they are addition to
the 8,046 records which were done several months ago. For our researchers
who made a donation of $100+ to be able to get the whole set of Kishinev
1859 records, you will receive this new portion too. The only thing I would
ask you is to send me an email that you made a donation and waiting for the
records. If you want to get the whole set now, you can make $100+ donation,
let me know and the records will come to you. Your donation we are going to
use to get more records >from Archives.

Right now we have completed 16,079 Revision records, and hopefully several
more sets will be done until end of the months. Since the last Jewish Gen
conference we have already completed a set of 10,000+ records and sent them
to JewishGen and they are all online.

I want to share with you some of the details of this year work, especially
for Kishinev.

There are many cases when the family had 2 surnames. It is written for
example in Russian like this: KOGAN, also known as RABINOVICH. Both of
such surnames were recorded. There are also many people who run away, and
you may see in the record "In unknown absence since 1852", or "Returned
from unknown leave".
Sometimes the records were MODIFIED, like an age was changed, and there is a
mark about it in the Revision with timestamp when it was done.

Another important rule to understand that every Revision (like a census)
starts >from the prior Revision. For example all people who were Registered
in Revision 1848 and who did not die should have appeared in the next
Revision of 1854. Also in 1854 will be new born >from 1849-1854, people who
were missed in 1848, who moved to the town in this period.

For every head of household we have a category/class/estate. Remember from
1818 every Jew in Bessarabia had to be part of one of three estates:
Merchants, Middle Class (petty bourgeois) or Farmer. If you are interested
to find out more about these estates, read
http://www.jewishgen.org/Bessarabia/files/conferences/2012/EstateOfJewsinBes
sarabia.pdf. You can see the estate for every family, and sometimes
families changed the estate >from Middle Class to Merchants for example.
There was also a group of people named Burlaki. They are temporary workers,
mostly farmers, and listed usually at the end of Middle Class Revision.

If any of you is interested to help translating Bessarabia Revision Lists
please let me know.

Best regards,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Bessarabia Revision Lists #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

To all Bessarabia/Moldova researchers:

I want to let you know what is going on with the Bessarabia Revision
Project.

You may saw already the latest update of the Revision records which will be
send to JewishGen by the end of the month.
http://www.jewishgen.org/Bessarabia/files/databases/RevisionMay2016.pdf

Since I put this table online we have finished 3002 records for Kishinev
1859, these records were in a different microfilm and they are addition to
the 8,046 records which were done several months ago. For our researchers
who made a donation of $100+ to be able to get the whole set of Kishinev
1859 records, you will receive this new portion too. The only thing I would
ask you is to send me an email that you made a donation and waiting for the
records. If you want to get the whole set now, you can make $100+ donation,
let me know and the records will come to you. Your donation we are going to
use to get more records >from Archives.

Right now we have completed 16,079 Revision records, and hopefully several
more sets will be done until end of the months. Since the last Jewish Gen
conference we have already completed a set of 10,000+ records and sent them
to JewishGen and they are all online.

I want to share with you some of the details of this year work, especially
for Kishinev.

There are many cases when the family had 2 surnames. It is written for
example in Russian like this: KOGAN, also known as RABINOVICH. Both of
such surnames were recorded. There are also many people who run away, and
you may see in the record "In unknown absence since 1852", or "Returned
from unknown leave".
Sometimes the records were MODIFIED, like an age was changed, and there is a
mark about it in the Revision with timestamp when it was done.

Another important rule to understand that every Revision (like a census)
starts >from the prior Revision. For example all people who were Registered
in Revision 1848 and who did not die should have appeared in the next
Revision of 1854. Also in 1854 will be new born >from 1849-1854, people who
were missed in 1848, who moved to the town in this period.

For every head of household we have a category/class/estate. Remember from
1818 every Jew in Bessarabia had to be part of one of three estates:
Merchants, Middle Class (petty bourgeois) or Farmer. If you are interested
to find out more about these estates, read
http://www.jewishgen.org/Bessarabia/files/conferences/2012/EstateOfJewsinBes
sarabia.pdf. You can see the estate for every family, and sometimes
families changed the estate >from Middle Class to Merchants for example.
There was also a group of people named Burlaki. They are temporary workers,
mostly farmers, and listed usually at the end of Middle Class Revision.

If any of you is interested to help translating Bessarabia Revision Lists
please let me know.

Best regards,
Yefim Kogan
Bessarabia SIG Coordinator
Researching KOGAN, SPIVAK, KHAYMOVICH, SRULEVICH, LEVIT in Kaushany,
Bendery, Tarutino, Akkerman, Kiliya - all in Bessarabia, KHAIMOVICH in
Galatz, Romania, KOGAN in Dubossary, Moldova, SRULEVICH in Shanghai, China


Campulung (Kimpolung) Jewish Cemetery and Synagogues #romania

baruch@...
 

Mr. Joseph (Iulku) Klein is >from Campulung Moldovenesc and was the Chairman
of the Board of Directors of the (Israeli) Jewish community in Campolung and
surroundings.
He recently provided us with precious documentation of the Jewish cemetery
and the synagogues in Campulung.
You can find there diagrams of the cemetery graves (numbered) as well as
list of the people that were buried there.
See http://www.eylonconsulting.com/bukovina/blog/?p=1369 and
http://www.eylonconsulting.com/bukovina/blog/?p=1382 .

This information and more, will be loaded into our website for Bukovina
Jewish Heritage Sites, see http://www.eylonconsulting.com/bukovina/
that holds information per heritage website.

Thanks,
Baruch Eylon
Chair of the Committee for Heritage Sites of Bukovina Jews


Romania SIG #Romania Campulung (Kimpolung) Jewish Cemetery and Synagogues #romania

baruch@...
 

Mr. Joseph (Iulku) Klein is >from Campulung Moldovenesc and was the Chairman
of the Board of Directors of the (Israeli) Jewish community in Campolung and
surroundings.
He recently provided us with precious documentation of the Jewish cemetery
and the synagogues in Campulung.
You can find there diagrams of the cemetery graves (numbered) as well as
list of the people that were buried there.
See http://www.eylonconsulting.com/bukovina/blog/?p=1369 and
http://www.eylonconsulting.com/bukovina/blog/?p=1382 .

This information and more, will be loaded into our website for Bukovina
Jewish Heritage Sites, see http://www.eylonconsulting.com/bukovina/
that holds information per heritage website.

Thanks,
Baruch Eylon
Chair of the Committee for Heritage Sites of Bukovina Jews


Searching for SAUER or SAUVER in South America #latinamerica

Ben Karlin
 

I am having a difficult time learning anything about the background and family of my grandfather Adolph J SAUER. In various documents he lists his date of birth as 15 April 1878 or as 15 April 1880 in Buenos Aires, Argentina and parents as Josef, Abram or Abraham and Sophie or Sara SAUER or SAUVER.

He left Para, Brazil, listing it as his last residence, in November 1911 aboard the Saint Irene for Galveston, TX and >from there to Rock Island, IL. >from then on he is easy to follow since he married my grandfather less than a year later. I assume he sailed out of Belem but I don't know that he "resided" there.

His parents were among the Polish emigrants to Argentina, presumably arriving before his birth but I have no proof. In one document, his death certificate, his place of birth is listed as Poland but he, of course, was not the source of the information. I find no trace of any of the three of them anywhere: not in Poland, Argentina, Brazil, none of these or on the sea between them.

If you have a suggestion or information I would certainly appreciate it. Please respond privately.

Ben Karlin
St Louis, MO USA


Latin America #LatinAmerica Searching for SAUER or SAUVER in South America #latinamerica

Ben Karlin
 

I am having a difficult time learning anything about the background and family of my grandfather Adolph J SAUER. In various documents he lists his date of birth as 15 April 1878 or as 15 April 1880 in Buenos Aires, Argentina and parents as Josef, Abram or Abraham and Sophie or Sara SAUER or SAUVER.

He left Para, Brazil, listing it as his last residence, in November 1911 aboard the Saint Irene for Galveston, TX and >from there to Rock Island, IL. >from then on he is easy to follow since he married my grandfather less than a year later. I assume he sailed out of Belem but I don't know that he "resided" there.

His parents were among the Polish emigrants to Argentina, presumably arriving before his birth but I have no proof. In one document, his death certificate, his place of birth is listed as Poland but he, of course, was not the source of the information. I find no trace of any of the three of them anywhere: not in Poland, Argentina, Brazil, none of these or on the sea between them.

If you have a suggestion or information I would certainly appreciate it. Please respond privately.

Ben Karlin
St Louis, MO USA


Webpage design volunteers needed for the KehilaLinks Project #latinamerica

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

Dear Friends,

Although we have a wonderful team of dedicated and overworked
volunteers, there are not enough of them and prospective webpage
owners have to wait a long time to get technical help.

Our webpages are "Virtual Yizkor Books". Just as former residents
took it upon themselves to record all they could remember and publish
a Yizkor Book in memory of their Jewish community , so we, the next
generation, should make sure that whatever we have, every little bit
of information that sheds light on the lives of our Jewish
communities is recorded and preserved. The people who published
Yizkor Books usually were in contact with others living in the same
town or country. Contact with their landsmen in other countries was
difficult. To us, in the 21st century, there are no limitations.
Cyberspace has opened up the world to us.

If you have the necessary skills we urge you to volunteer and help
someone create a webpage dedicated to a Kehila / Shtetl / Gemeinde /
Town / Immigrant Neighbourhood, and in this way honour and memorialize
the Jewish community that once lived there and also provide a valuable
resource for their descendants.

Please contact us : <bloch@mts.net>

Susana Leistner Bloch, VP, KehilaLinks, JewishGen, Inc.
Barbara Ellman, KehilaLinks Technical Coordinator


Upcoming IAJGS conference advertising and accommodations #latinamerica

Janette Silverman <cochairs@...>
 

Time is running out if you wish to advertise for the conference. We
still have ad space in the Conference Syllabus, the Family Finder, The
Conference App, and the Conference Banquet Journal. Your ad must be in
to the Conference prior to June 15 in a pdf or other format that allows
us to publish it as is. All of the printed ads will be in black and
white, and online ads can be in color. We also still have the option to
put an insert into the Conference bag which will be given to all full
attendees of the Conference. Those will have to be printed and 1,000
copies must be delivered to the hotel to the attention of the Conference
not later than August 4. For more information on advertising and to
send in your reservation, see the Advertising tab on our website,
http://www.iajgs2016.org/how-to-advertise/

Conference Planning has entered the final stages. The Sheraton has
reported to us they are no longer able to accommodate base room
reservations for the entire week of the Conference. There are some
upgraded rooms available and some individual night rooms, as well.
There are few other rooms available in downtown Seattle. You need to
search for rooms if you have not made your room reservations for the
Conference. The University of Washington and Capitol Hill neighborhoods
offer quick access by the new light rail system to the Sheraton.
Pioneer Square is also a short distance >from downtown. The Westlake
Light Rail station is less than two blocks >from the Sheraton. There may
also be few rooms left at the Hyatt Olive 8 hotel, three blocks from
the Conference at
https://aws.passkey.com/event/15080205/owner/69782/home . They have been
gracious to offer a small block of rooms at a special rate for the
Conference. If you have already reserved rooms that you will not need,
we would appreciate it if you could release your unneeded room nights so
there is room for others.

We are looking forward to greeting you in Seattle. This will be one of
the better attended conferences in the past ten years. In addition to
the great programming lineup and entertainment, it is a great
opportunity to meet friends you may only know through online sources.
Seattle will be an exciting place to be >from August 7-12! See you then.

Janette Silverman
Chuck Weinstein
Phyllis Grossman
Conference Co-Chairs


Latin America #LatinAmerica Webpage design volunteers needed for the KehilaLinks Project #latinamerica

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

Dear Friends,

Although we have a wonderful team of dedicated and overworked
volunteers, there are not enough of them and prospective webpage
owners have to wait a long time to get technical help.

Our webpages are "Virtual Yizkor Books". Just as former residents
took it upon themselves to record all they could remember and publish
a Yizkor Book in memory of their Jewish community , so we, the next
generation, should make sure that whatever we have, every little bit
of information that sheds light on the lives of our Jewish
communities is recorded and preserved. The people who published
Yizkor Books usually were in contact with others living in the same
town or country. Contact with their landsmen in other countries was
difficult. To us, in the 21st century, there are no limitations.
Cyberspace has opened up the world to us.

If you have the necessary skills we urge you to volunteer and help
someone create a webpage dedicated to a Kehila / Shtetl / Gemeinde /
Town / Immigrant Neighbourhood, and in this way honour and memorialize
the Jewish community that once lived there and also provide a valuable
resource for their descendants.

Please contact us : <bloch@mts.net>

Susana Leistner Bloch, VP, KehilaLinks, JewishGen, Inc.
Barbara Ellman, KehilaLinks Technical Coordinator


Latin America #LatinAmerica Upcoming IAJGS conference advertising and accommodations #latinamerica

Janette Silverman <cochairs@...>
 

Time is running out if you wish to advertise for the conference. We
still have ad space in the Conference Syllabus, the Family Finder, The
Conference App, and the Conference Banquet Journal. Your ad must be in
to the Conference prior to June 15 in a pdf or other format that allows
us to publish it as is. All of the printed ads will be in black and
white, and online ads can be in color. We also still have the option to
put an insert into the Conference bag which will be given to all full
attendees of the Conference. Those will have to be printed and 1,000
copies must be delivered to the hotel to the attention of the Conference
not later than August 4. For more information on advertising and to
send in your reservation, see the Advertising tab on our website,
http://www.iajgs2016.org/how-to-advertise/

Conference Planning has entered the final stages. The Sheraton has
reported to us they are no longer able to accommodate base room
reservations for the entire week of the Conference. There are some
upgraded rooms available and some individual night rooms, as well.
There are few other rooms available in downtown Seattle. You need to
search for rooms if you have not made your room reservations for the
Conference. The University of Washington and Capitol Hill neighborhoods
offer quick access by the new light rail system to the Sheraton.
Pioneer Square is also a short distance >from downtown. The Westlake
Light Rail station is less than two blocks >from the Sheraton. There may
also be few rooms left at the Hyatt Olive 8 hotel, three blocks from
the Conference at
https://aws.passkey.com/event/15080205/owner/69782/home . They have been
gracious to offer a small block of rooms at a special rate for the
Conference. If you have already reserved rooms that you will not need,
we would appreciate it if you could release your unneeded room nights so
there is room for others.

We are looking forward to greeting you in Seattle. This will be one of
the better attended conferences in the past ten years. In addition to
the great programming lineup and entertainment, it is a great
opportunity to meet friends you may only know through online sources.
Seattle will be an exciting place to be >from August 7-12! See you then.

Janette Silverman
Chuck Weinstein
Phyllis Grossman
Conference Co-Chairs


Sandy KOUFAX / KOVAC / KUSZNER #general

dprice dprice
 

I need to contact Douglas Allen KASS, president of Seebreeze Partners
Management Inc.

He claims that he and Sandy KOUFAX share the same grandparents. It is
critical that I know their first names to prove my ties to Sandy. It
should be Samuel/Shmueyl KOVAC and Sara but Doug says his grandfather
was Harry, born 1900 and does not give his grandmother's given name.

I have confirmed after many years that I am related to Bessie/Bettie
KOUFAX (born 1879), spouse of Louis KOUFAX (born 1874).

Sandy's ancestors were sephardic Hungarian Jews who lived in Grodno,
Belarus, where my mother came from. I have no evidence of sephardic
Hungarian connection in my family but my grandfather's surname sounds
mysteriously Hungarian: BADASZ.

My grandmother's maiden name was KUSZNER. I need to know Bessie's
maiden name. How can I get in touch with Doug Kass?

David Price, Toronto

Researching: BADASZ/KUSZNER of Grodno, Belarus; PRAJS of Bieliny,
Kielce; GORLICKI of Chmielnik

MODERATOR: In this - as in so much else in life - the Google is our
friend. Try Seabreeze, rather than Seebreeze.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sandy KOUFAX / KOVAC / KUSZNER #general

dprice dprice
 

I need to contact Douglas Allen KASS, president of Seebreeze Partners
Management Inc.

He claims that he and Sandy KOUFAX share the same grandparents. It is
critical that I know their first names to prove my ties to Sandy. It
should be Samuel/Shmueyl KOVAC and Sara but Doug says his grandfather
was Harry, born 1900 and does not give his grandmother's given name.

I have confirmed after many years that I am related to Bessie/Bettie
KOUFAX (born 1879), spouse of Louis KOUFAX (born 1874).

Sandy's ancestors were sephardic Hungarian Jews who lived in Grodno,
Belarus, where my mother came from. I have no evidence of sephardic
Hungarian connection in my family but my grandfather's surname sounds
mysteriously Hungarian: BADASZ.

My grandmother's maiden name was KUSZNER. I need to know Bessie's
maiden name. How can I get in touch with Doug Kass?

David Price, Toronto

Researching: BADASZ/KUSZNER of Grodno, Belarus; PRAJS of Bieliny,
Kielce; GORLICKI of Chmielnik

MODERATOR: In this - as in so much else in life - the Google is our
friend. Try Seabreeze, rather than Seebreeze.


Searching: Family KAMIENIECKI #france

Lemberski Evelyne
 

Good evening

I would like to know if the father of Leo KAMIENIECKI born in Brest
Litovsk was the 8/30/1907 member of the family of Zelman KAMIENIECKI
born in 1872 in Kobryn. Father Leon KAMIENIECKI called Mosjze KAMIENIECKI
and mother Tojba SUKIENIK.

Mosjze KAMIENIECKI was he a brother, uncle or cousin of Zelman KAMIENIECKI?
My maternal grandfather Mordko KAMIENIECKI was born on 22/10/1899 in Brest
Litovsk as LEON KAMIENIECKI, is it a coincidence?
Mordko KAMIENIECKI and Leon KAMIENIECKI lived in Paris.

Do not hesitate to contact me if you have information at the following
email address:
evelynelemberski@yahoo.fr

MODERATOR NOTE: Capital letters are to be used for family names only.
Please do nto use any diacritical marks as our server cannot read them.
Thank you, FrenchSIG Moderator on duty


French SIG #France Searching: Family KAMIENIECKI #france

Lemberski Evelyne
 

Good evening

I would like to know if the father of Leo KAMIENIECKI born in Brest
Litovsk was the 8/30/1907 member of the family of Zelman KAMIENIECKI
born in 1872 in Kobryn. Father Leon KAMIENIECKI called Mosjze KAMIENIECKI
and mother Tojba SUKIENIK.

Mosjze KAMIENIECKI was he a brother, uncle or cousin of Zelman KAMIENIECKI?
My maternal grandfather Mordko KAMIENIECKI was born on 22/10/1899 in Brest
Litovsk as LEON KAMIENIECKI, is it a coincidence?
Mordko KAMIENIECKI and Leon KAMIENIECKI lived in Paris.

Do not hesitate to contact me if you have information at the following
email address:
evelynelemberski@yahoo.fr

MODERATOR NOTE: Capital letters are to be used for family names only.
Please do nto use any diacritical marks as our server cannot read them.
Thank you, FrenchSIG Moderator on duty

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