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Changing Last Names For Emigration #general

David Goldman
 

Hello, Jewishgenners.

My great-grandfather and two of his brothers changed their last names >from
KRASINSKY to GRUBERMAN and GOLDMAN when they left Nova Ushitza for Manchester
England around 1890. I was told that this happened because a Russian-sounding
name would be more of a problem than a German-sounding name in England in
those days because Germany and England were considered "allies."

It is also assumed they "borrowed" their new last names >from some relatives.

Now when it comes to the issue of identification, how could one have
obtained passports for a large family under a borrowed last name?! Was it
simply a matter in those days of getting a passport and the required exit
permit >from the Russian government with the right amount of bribe money?!

And how important could this issue of last names have actually been that
entire families would feel it was so urgent to Germanize their last names
when emigrating to England?

David Goldman
NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Changing Last Names For Emigration #general

David Goldman
 

Hello, Jewishgenners.

My great-grandfather and two of his brothers changed their last names >from
KRASINSKY to GRUBERMAN and GOLDMAN when they left Nova Ushitza for Manchester
England around 1890. I was told that this happened because a Russian-sounding
name would be more of a problem than a German-sounding name in England in
those days because Germany and England were considered "allies."

It is also assumed they "borrowed" their new last names >from some relatives.

Now when it comes to the issue of identification, how could one have
obtained passports for a large family under a borrowed last name?! Was it
simply a matter in those days of getting a passport and the required exit
permit >from the Russian government with the right amount of bribe money?!

And how important could this issue of last names have actually been that
entire families would feel it was so urgent to Germanize their last names
when emigrating to England?

David Goldman
NYC


Translation Request #hungary

sarah fuerst
 


Final word from the Seattle 2016 Conference #hungary

Janette Silverman <cochairs@...>
 

If you attended the Conference, did you get to every session you wanted
to see? Did you hear buzz about sessions you wish you had been to? What
about the one that created an Aha! moment you want to recapture (like
Devin Naar's keynote or Judy Russell's banquet talk)?

You still can subscribe to the LIVE! on-demand service that will let you
watch many of the best sessions of the past week after you get home. You
can subscribe on line, for 90 days of on-demand viewing for $179.
On-demand viewing is good through 12 November 2016

To subscribe, go to the Attendee Service Center, log in, select Buy
LIVE!, Edit your account, and click Continue to the page with the LIVE!
Full Add On check box. Check it and continue to the confirmation and
payment pages. The Attendee Service Center will remain open next week,
but don't procrastinate, because we will have to close it soon.

For those who did not register for the Conference, please give us a
chance to regroup for a couple of days. Then, beginning 15 August, go
to the New Registration page at
https://s4.goeshow.com/iajgs/annual/2016/registration_form.cfm
We don't know how long we can keep that page open, so please do it
before August 19.

Janette Silverman
Conference Co-Chair
on behalf of
Harvey Kabaker
Registration chair


Hungary SIG #Hungary Translation Request #hungary

sarah fuerst
 


Hungary SIG #Hungary Final word from the Seattle 2016 Conference #hungary

Janette Silverman <cochairs@...>
 

If you attended the Conference, did you get to every session you wanted
to see? Did you hear buzz about sessions you wish you had been to? What
about the one that created an Aha! moment you want to recapture (like
Devin Naar's keynote or Judy Russell's banquet talk)?

You still can subscribe to the LIVE! on-demand service that will let you
watch many of the best sessions of the past week after you get home. You
can subscribe on line, for 90 days of on-demand viewing for $179.
On-demand viewing is good through 12 November 2016

To subscribe, go to the Attendee Service Center, log in, select Buy
LIVE!, Edit your account, and click Continue to the page with the LIVE!
Full Add On check box. Check it and continue to the confirmation and
payment pages. The Attendee Service Center will remain open next week,
but don't procrastinate, because we will have to close it soon.

For those who did not register for the Conference, please give us a
chance to regroup for a couple of days. Then, beginning 15 August, go
to the New Registration page at
https://s4.goeshow.com/iajgs/annual/2016/registration_form.cfm
We don't know how long we can keep that page open, so please do it
before August 19.

Janette Silverman
Conference Co-Chair
on behalf of
Harvey Kabaker
Registration chair


Ocs, veszprem #hungary

renato mannheimer
 

Another question. Does someone have some relatives Who lived in Ocs, a littl=
e town in Vezprem county, hungary? My ggf was born there.
Thank you
Renato Mannheimer Italy

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Re: Ujpest #hungary

Susanna Vendel
 

I would recommend the excellent book "Jewish Budapest" - Monuments,
rites, History", ISBN9789639116375.
"This richly illustrated history of the Jews in Budapest.....looks..at
each of the "Jewish quarters" of the city, focusing on patterns of
settlement and occupation, on biographic details and historical
monuments..."

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm


Hungary SIG #Hungary Ocs, veszprem #hungary

renato mannheimer
 

Another question. Does someone have some relatives Who lived in Ocs, a littl=
e town in Vezprem county, hungary? My ggf was born there.
Thank you
Renato Mannheimer Italy

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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Ujpest #hungary

Susanna Vendel
 

I would recommend the excellent book "Jewish Budapest" - Monuments,
rites, History", ISBN9789639116375.
"This richly illustrated history of the Jews in Budapest.....looks..at
each of the "Jewish quarters" of the city, focusing on patterns of
settlement and occupation, on biographic details and historical
monuments..."

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm


Final word from the Seattle 2016 Conference #austria-czech

Janette Silverman <cochairs@...>
 

If you attended the Conference, did you get to every session you wanted
to see? Did you hear buzz about sessions you wish you had been to? What
about the one that created an Aha! moment you want to recapture (like
Devin Naar's keynote or Judy Russell's banquet talk)?

You still can subscribe to the LIVE! on-demand service that will let you
watch many of the best sessions of the past week after you get home. You
can subscribe on line, for 90 days of on-demand viewing for $179.
On-demand viewing is good through 12 November 2016

To subscribe, go to the Attendee Service Center, log in, select Buy
LIVE!, Edit your account, and click Continue to the page with the LIVE!
Full Add On check box. Check it and continue to the confirmation and
payment pages. The Attendee Service Center will remain open next week,
but don't procrastinate, because we will have to close it soon.

For those who did not register for the Conference, please give us a
chance to regroup for a couple of days. Then, beginning 15 August, go
to the New Registration page at
https://s4.goeshow.com/iajgs/annual/2016/registration_form.cfm
We don't know how long we can keep that page open, so please do it
before August 19.

Janette Silverman
Conference Co-Chair
on behalf of
Harvey Kabaker
Registration chair


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Final word from the Seattle 2016 Conference #austria-czech

Janette Silverman <cochairs@...>
 

If you attended the Conference, did you get to every session you wanted
to see? Did you hear buzz about sessions you wish you had been to? What
about the one that created an Aha! moment you want to recapture (like
Devin Naar's keynote or Judy Russell's banquet talk)?

You still can subscribe to the LIVE! on-demand service that will let you
watch many of the best sessions of the past week after you get home. You
can subscribe on line, for 90 days of on-demand viewing for $179.
On-demand viewing is good through 12 November 2016

To subscribe, go to the Attendee Service Center, log in, select Buy
LIVE!, Edit your account, and click Continue to the page with the LIVE!
Full Add On check box. Check it and continue to the confirmation and
payment pages. The Attendee Service Center will remain open next week,
but don't procrastinate, because we will have to close it soon.

For those who did not register for the Conference, please give us a
chance to regroup for a couple of days. Then, beginning 15 August, go
to the New Registration page at
https://s4.goeshow.com/iajgs/annual/2016/registration_form.cfm
We don't know how long we can keep that page open, so please do it
before August 19.

Janette Silverman
Conference Co-Chair
on behalf of
Harvey Kabaker
Registration chair


Prostejov "old" cemetery website #austria-czech

Joseph Lonstein
 

I apologize if this has already been posted to the SIG, but today I came across
a very interesting and informative website for a restoration project of the "old"
Prostejov cemetery. http://prostejov.zidovskyhrbitov.cz/
The description of the project (thanks to Google Translate) is:


"These websites provide information about the project for rehabilitation of
the old Jewish cemetery in Prostejov, who wants to return this ruined monument
on the spiritual map of the city. At the place where it was in the
years 1801 to 1908 are buried nearly two thousand people, is now a car park
and a park where people >from the neighborhood come to walk the dogs. The
main intention is to return the entire area with human dignity remains necessary
in terms of Jewish tradition and simultaneously allow the functioning of the follow-up
residential area, including the neighboring school. This will provide valuable cultural
monument that will enrich the current Prostejov. The initiator and benefactor of the
project is Rabbi Louis Kestenbaum. We appeal to the general public with a request for
information to previously existing tombstones or other evidence about the history of
the site of the old Jewish cemetery in Prostejov, such as photos, newspaper
articles, recorded memories or official documents."


The links on the site contain pictures, maps, a list of the buried, and links
to news articles related to the project. I have no additional information
about this project or the website.


Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, Michigan, USA


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Prostejov "old" cemetery website #austria-czech

Joseph Lonstein
 

I apologize if this has already been posted to the SIG, but today I came across
a very interesting and informative website for a restoration project of the "old"
Prostejov cemetery. http://prostejov.zidovskyhrbitov.cz/
The description of the project (thanks to Google Translate) is:


"These websites provide information about the project for rehabilitation of
the old Jewish cemetery in Prostejov, who wants to return this ruined monument
on the spiritual map of the city. At the place where it was in the
years 1801 to 1908 are buried nearly two thousand people, is now a car park
and a park where people >from the neighborhood come to walk the dogs. The
main intention is to return the entire area with human dignity remains necessary
in terms of Jewish tradition and simultaneously allow the functioning of the follow-up
residential area, including the neighboring school. This will provide valuable cultural
monument that will enrich the current Prostejov. The initiator and benefactor of the
project is Rabbi Louis Kestenbaum. We appeal to the general public with a request for
information to previously existing tombstones or other evidence about the history of
the site of the old Jewish cemetery in Prostejov, such as photos, newspaper
articles, recorded memories or official documents."


The links on the site contain pictures, maps, a list of the buried, and links
to news articles related to the project. I have no additional information
about this project or the website.


Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, Michigan, USA


News scans from the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

I returned home >from the conference in Seattle to find, at last, a
package >from the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People
in Jerusalem with a USB drive of a number of scanned items >from their
collection dealing with Bohemia and Moravia. This was the result of
discussions I had last year at the conference in Jerusalem. I was able
to arrange to pay for the scanning of items that I thought might be of
interest. I have not been able to review them yet, but everyone is free
to see them. I put it all in a DropBox folder at
http://tinyurl.com/hapvbtg. There is an Excel spreadsheet of the
inventory I was sent, with the scanned items highlighted, at
http://tinyurl.com/gu2asot.

Please feel free to browse through these newly available items and let
us know when you find something interesting. If there are other items
of interest in the spreadsheet that have not yet been scanned, we now
have a mechanism to obtain them. If someone wants to sponsor scanning
of any items, please let me know.

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA
Austria-Czech SIG Coordinator/Moderator


Leukemia Diagnosis and DNA Testing #austria-czech

kendrickkreations@...
 

We have been searching our BLOCH, DZIEKIEWICZ, KWASNY, and RING lineage for
decades. Recently, my 1st cousin was diagnosed with leukemia and had to
have a DNA test. Last night, I was doing the online activation of my own
DNA test that had arrived in the mail, not knowing my cousin had to take one
because of his illness. As I was typing in the activation code this
information pops up >from my cousin via FB; "You might be interested in this
tidbit to help our genealogy... my 10 for 10 DNA stem cell transplant match
is Polish and works as a driver there." Now, we were always told that we
were German. Our research leaned towards something else, but we didn't have
documented proof. Our research also seems to disprove a great deal passed
down through the years. Do yourself a favor for your health knowledge and
your research - invest in a DNA test. My test will be mailed today and it
will be a long 6-8 week wait to learn the results!

Regards,
Nancy Ring Kendrick
Port Orange, FL
Researching: BLOCH | BUGEN | DZIEKIEWICZ | KISCH | KWASNY |KWOSNY | RING
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/9522459/family


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech News scans from the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People #austria-czech

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

I returned home >from the conference in Seattle to find, at last, a
package >from the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People
in Jerusalem with a USB drive of a number of scanned items >from their
collection dealing with Bohemia and Moravia. This was the result of
discussions I had last year at the conference in Jerusalem. I was able
to arrange to pay for the scanning of items that I thought might be of
interest. I have not been able to review them yet, but everyone is free
to see them. I put it all in a DropBox folder at
http://tinyurl.com/hapvbtg. There is an Excel spreadsheet of the
inventory I was sent, with the scanned items highlighted, at
http://tinyurl.com/gu2asot.

Please feel free to browse through these newly available items and let
us know when you find something interesting. If there are other items
of interest in the spreadsheet that have not yet been scanned, we now
have a mechanism to obtain them. If someone wants to sponsor scanning
of any items, please let me know.

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA
Austria-Czech SIG Coordinator/Moderator


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Leukemia Diagnosis and DNA Testing #austria-czech

kendrickkreations@...
 

We have been searching our BLOCH, DZIEKIEWICZ, KWASNY, and RING lineage for
decades. Recently, my 1st cousin was diagnosed with leukemia and had to
have a DNA test. Last night, I was doing the online activation of my own
DNA test that had arrived in the mail, not knowing my cousin had to take one
because of his illness. As I was typing in the activation code this
information pops up >from my cousin via FB; "You might be interested in this
tidbit to help our genealogy... my 10 for 10 DNA stem cell transplant match
is Polish and works as a driver there." Now, we were always told that we
were German. Our research leaned towards something else, but we didn't have
documented proof. Our research also seems to disprove a great deal passed
down through the years. Do yourself a favor for your health knowledge and
your research - invest in a DNA test. My test will be mailed today and it
will be a long 6-8 week wait to learn the results!

Regards,
Nancy Ring Kendrick
Port Orange, FL
Researching: BLOCH | BUGEN | DZIEKIEWICZ | KISCH | KWASNY |KWOSNY | RING
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/9522459/family


Medicinal Cupping #ukraine

Richard Cooper
 

I always thought that cupping was a discredited medieval practice that
had fallen out of favour by the late 18th century. Although I knew it
had been practised by our ancestors in Eastern Europe less than 100
years ago (apparently the children dreaded wet bankes as it was a lot
more painful than dry bankes - see 'The Shtetl Book' (Diane & David
Riskies, Ktav Publishing 1979)), I thought it was no longer in vogue.
Then a Russian friend told me it had been used to treat her as
recently as the 1980s, and I saw Michael Palin undergoing it in (I
think) Ukraine in his BBC 'New Europe' travelogue in 2006. Here's an
article about Jewish Eastern European cupping
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/210759/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-cupping-and-some-stuff-you-probably-didnt

All the Best and Happy ancestor-spotting!
Ric Cooper (NB: Not related to any COOPERs!)
Midhurst, UK
MILLET, ENGELBERG, BLUMENKEHL, SUSSWEIN, WACKS & PITERZIL >from Tarnow,
Dabrowa Tarnowska and Lezajsk
LEZTER, SALENDER, RINENBERG, EISEN & KRAETTER >from Rzeszow and Kolbuszowa
YAROSHEVSKY, SHAPOCHNIKOW & GRANITUR >from Odessa and Zlatopol/Novomirgorod
LEWINSTEIN >from Berdichev
ADLER, FINKELSTEIN, PARYLLE, WEINTRAUB & ZILZ >from Tarnopol and Trembowla
BORENSTEIN, MATELEVITCH,GODZINSKIJ & ZIMNOWICZ and >from Warsaw and Radun

MODERATOR'S NOTE: This thread has strayed too far >from genealogy and is now closed.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Medicinal Cupping #ukraine

Richard Cooper
 

I always thought that cupping was a discredited medieval practice that
had fallen out of favour by the late 18th century. Although I knew it
had been practised by our ancestors in Eastern Europe less than 100
years ago (apparently the children dreaded wet bankes as it was a lot
more painful than dry bankes - see 'The Shtetl Book' (Diane & David
Riskies, Ktav Publishing 1979)), I thought it was no longer in vogue.
Then a Russian friend told me it had been used to treat her as
recently as the 1980s, and I saw Michael Palin undergoing it in (I
think) Ukraine in his BBC 'New Europe' travelogue in 2006. Here's an
article about Jewish Eastern European cupping
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/210759/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-cupping-and-some-stuff-you-probably-didnt

All the Best and Happy ancestor-spotting!
Ric Cooper (NB: Not related to any COOPERs!)
Midhurst, UK
MILLET, ENGELBERG, BLUMENKEHL, SUSSWEIN, WACKS & PITERZIL >from Tarnow,
Dabrowa Tarnowska and Lezajsk
LEZTER, SALENDER, RINENBERG, EISEN & KRAETTER >from Rzeszow and Kolbuszowa
YAROSHEVSKY, SHAPOCHNIKOW & GRANITUR >from Odessa and Zlatopol/Novomirgorod
LEWINSTEIN >from Berdichev
ADLER, FINKELSTEIN, PARYLLE, WEINTRAUB & ZILZ >from Tarnopol and Trembowla
BORENSTEIN, MATELEVITCH,GODZINSKIJ & ZIMNOWICZ and >from Warsaw and Radun

MODERATOR'S NOTE: This thread has strayed too far >from genealogy and is now closed.

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