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Subject: Question about Land Travel in Europe in the 1920's #ukraine

Debra Price <dsprice@...>
 

About 1920, when my father was about 10 years old, the family left from
what is now Ukraine and headed for the U.S. Here is an excerpt >from his
autobiography describing the land portion of the trip.

"My father, mother, brother Yosel with his wife Rosie and infant son
Jack, brothers Dave and Benchik, sisters Entzie and Pola, and I loaded hired
wagons and left Proskurov at night, for going through the villages and
fields was dangerous by day. (My brother Charlie was already in the U.S.)
We were headed for a stop-over in Lemberg, Poland. We planned to go via
Romania, which was the longer way, because the Polish border was closed due
to roving bands of bandits. However, when we got to the border we could not
proceed further because the bridges were being guarded by Bolshevik
revolutionaries and they did not permit anyone to leave. We were able to
rent a room for all of us which was to be for only a day or two until the
bridges would be reopened.
The town was soon overflowing with people but the bridges were not
reopened. Illegal border crossing was the only option available. Dave,
Benchik, and Entzie decided to cross the turbulent river in flat boats rowed
by two peasants. At a given signal during the night when the guards walked
off for a short while they made a quick dash for the boats and took off. The
boats were loaded down with as many people as possible, all lying huddled
together, so that the water was practically at the level of the boat. Entzie
said that she did not know where her brothers were until Dave coughed, as he
always did. So as not to give away their location, the peasant buried
Dave's head between his legs and put his hand over his mouth. When they got
to Romania on the other side of the river they had to climb the Carpathian
Mountains on foot. Once over the mountains, they hired horses and buggies
which drove them to their destination-Lemberg.
Those of us who remained stuck on the other side of the river spent six
weeks in filth, misery, hunger, and lice. I was full of lice. At night I
would sit and kill them >from my shirts and underwear. The worst off was
Polia, my younger sister. I would try to clean her head, which was full of
sores and lice. My parents sold some of our belongings to buy food. The
Jewish population was small and poor so they could not help us much.
Eventually we were told that it was at that time impossible to go to Romania
but that the Polish border was accessible at certain spots in the mountains.
We packed and left.
Getting to the Polish border was not difficult but at the border we
found that it was to be an illegal crossing over the mountain and on the
other side wagons would take us to the town. Of course, during the night,
when the moon was not bright. The mountain was steep, covered with ice. We
slid backwards more than we went forward. It was most difficult for my
father because of his deformed leg. My brother Yosel and my mother stayed
in back of him and pushed him forward. It was a horrible crossing, the
guards losing patience with us - quicker, quicker and quiet. With the
rising sun I saw for the first time bombed out houses. In Proskurov it was
robbery and sacking and destruction by hand. In Poland it was
different--cannons and bombs--and villages were in shambles. Eventually we
reached Lemberg and were soon reunited with my brothers.
We lived approximately 6 months in Lemberg, in the poor Jewish section.
Why did we spend so much time in Lemberg? Because we could not get a visa
to enter the U.S. since there was a quota system in effect and the quota was
full. The decision was made to go to Canada (where there was no quota at
the time) and >from there to the U.S. We went by train >from Lemberg to
France. It was my first train ride. I recall the checkpoint at the
Polish-German border. At one of our stops in Germany there was singing and
dancing at the station, all dressed in Bohemian or native costumes. It was
quite a colorful sight, lasting perhaps 10 or 15 minutes. The next place I
recall was Antwerp, Belgium. The streets were very clean, wide and had
trolley cars, which was something new to me. I was also impressed with the
public comfort stations which were in the centers of main streets.
Before crossing the Channel and entering England we had to undergo a
delousing process. We undressed completely and put our clothing in metal
pans for heating in an oven, while we lined up nude, men separate from
women, and were hosed down with what seemed to us to be kerosene."

Debra Price
Wantagh, NY

Researching KFAR, KVAR, KWAR (Proskurov & Lemberg), CHUNOWICZ (Makow
Mazowiecki)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Subject: Question about Land Travel in Europe in the 1920's #ukraine

Debra Price <dsprice@...>
 

About 1920, when my father was about 10 years old, the family left from
what is now Ukraine and headed for the U.S. Here is an excerpt >from his
autobiography describing the land portion of the trip.

"My father, mother, brother Yosel with his wife Rosie and infant son
Jack, brothers Dave and Benchik, sisters Entzie and Pola, and I loaded hired
wagons and left Proskurov at night, for going through the villages and
fields was dangerous by day. (My brother Charlie was already in the U.S.)
We were headed for a stop-over in Lemberg, Poland. We planned to go via
Romania, which was the longer way, because the Polish border was closed due
to roving bands of bandits. However, when we got to the border we could not
proceed further because the bridges were being guarded by Bolshevik
revolutionaries and they did not permit anyone to leave. We were able to
rent a room for all of us which was to be for only a day or two until the
bridges would be reopened.
The town was soon overflowing with people but the bridges were not
reopened. Illegal border crossing was the only option available. Dave,
Benchik, and Entzie decided to cross the turbulent river in flat boats rowed
by two peasants. At a given signal during the night when the guards walked
off for a short while they made a quick dash for the boats and took off. The
boats were loaded down with as many people as possible, all lying huddled
together, so that the water was practically at the level of the boat. Entzie
said that she did not know where her brothers were until Dave coughed, as he
always did. So as not to give away their location, the peasant buried
Dave's head between his legs and put his hand over his mouth. When they got
to Romania on the other side of the river they had to climb the Carpathian
Mountains on foot. Once over the mountains, they hired horses and buggies
which drove them to their destination-Lemberg.
Those of us who remained stuck on the other side of the river spent six
weeks in filth, misery, hunger, and lice. I was full of lice. At night I
would sit and kill them >from my shirts and underwear. The worst off was
Polia, my younger sister. I would try to clean her head, which was full of
sores and lice. My parents sold some of our belongings to buy food. The
Jewish population was small and poor so they could not help us much.
Eventually we were told that it was at that time impossible to go to Romania
but that the Polish border was accessible at certain spots in the mountains.
We packed and left.
Getting to the Polish border was not difficult but at the border we
found that it was to be an illegal crossing over the mountain and on the
other side wagons would take us to the town. Of course, during the night,
when the moon was not bright. The mountain was steep, covered with ice. We
slid backwards more than we went forward. It was most difficult for my
father because of his deformed leg. My brother Yosel and my mother stayed
in back of him and pushed him forward. It was a horrible crossing, the
guards losing patience with us - quicker, quicker and quiet. With the
rising sun I saw for the first time bombed out houses. In Proskurov it was
robbery and sacking and destruction by hand. In Poland it was
different--cannons and bombs--and villages were in shambles. Eventually we
reached Lemberg and were soon reunited with my brothers.
We lived approximately 6 months in Lemberg, in the poor Jewish section.
Why did we spend so much time in Lemberg? Because we could not get a visa
to enter the U.S. since there was a quota system in effect and the quota was
full. The decision was made to go to Canada (where there was no quota at
the time) and >from there to the U.S. We went by train >from Lemberg to
France. It was my first train ride. I recall the checkpoint at the
Polish-German border. At one of our stops in Germany there was singing and
dancing at the station, all dressed in Bohemian or native costumes. It was
quite a colorful sight, lasting perhaps 10 or 15 minutes. The next place I
recall was Antwerp, Belgium. The streets were very clean, wide and had
trolley cars, which was something new to me. I was also impressed with the
public comfort stations which were in the centers of main streets.
Before crossing the Channel and entering England we had to undergo a
delousing process. We undressed completely and put our clothing in metal
pans for heating in an oven, while we lined up nude, men separate from
women, and were hosed down with what seemed to us to be kerosene."

Debra Price
Wantagh, NY

Researching KFAR, KVAR, KWAR (Proskurov & Lemberg), CHUNOWICZ (Makow
Mazowiecki)


Question about Land Travel in Europe in the 1920's #ukraine

Charlie Millman <charlesjmillman@...>
 

Well, offhand I can't point you toward any resources Leslie, but I
recall having read about how a large amount of young Russian Jews
walked across the Ukraine westward -- possibly a reaction to the
pogroms in the early 1900s -- picking up more young people as they
passed by other shtetls and towns. One story I heard growing up about
my ggf, Chaim Millman, is that he walked across Europe to England
(must've hopped a ferry in Calais or Ostende) although details were
sparse. Possibly part of this walking movement.

Charles Millman
Plymouth Meeting PA






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Subject: Question about Land Travel in Europe in the 1920's
From: Leslie Kelman <les.kelman43@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:07:22 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

How much do we know about the details of how our ancestors traveled
from The Pale to their new destination. I envisage that every trip
involved 2 segments; the sea segment and the land segment, because the
vast majority of those emigrating did not live in port cities or
towns.

Over the years I have found much useful information regarding sea
passenger lists and shipping records. On the other hand I am having
difficulty trying to understand details about the land segment, apart
from the fact that train travel played an important role.
I know that my grandfather and 5 children (including my father)
travelled >from Zhitomir in late 1923. They went to Riga and there they
obtained 3 visas; firstly to travel through Germany, secondly to
travel through Holland, and thirdly to enter the UK. I have some of
the travel documents as well as my father's UK Aliens card all of
which help to firmly establish dates. They left Zhitomir at the
beginning of November, 1923; and they arrived in the UK on December
11, 1923

I have done Google, Bing and Jewish Gen searches but without much
luck. Can anyone help direct me to useful sources and resources about
the land segment of our ancestors travel. I would like to do more
research on this subject.

Thanks
Leslie Kelman, Toronto


Re: Question about Land Travel in Europe in the 1920's #ukraine

Ivy Dennett-Thorpe <ivygar@...>
 

Dear All,


There's a lot of information about travelling to Hamburg and emigrating
to the US and other countries >from Hamburg on the website for the
Ballinstadt Emigration museum in Hamburg(
http://www.ballinstadt.de/?lang=en). It's a wonderful museum and I
understand that they've recently reopened after renovating.


Yours,


Ivy Garlitz Dennett-Thorpe


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Question about Land Travel in Europe in the 1920's #ukraine

Charlie Millman <charlesjmillman@...>
 

Well, offhand I can't point you toward any resources Leslie, but I
recall having read about how a large amount of young Russian Jews
walked across the Ukraine westward -- possibly a reaction to the
pogroms in the early 1900s -- picking up more young people as they
passed by other shtetls and towns. One story I heard growing up about
my ggf, Chaim Millman, is that he walked across Europe to England
(must've hopped a ferry in Calais or Ostende) although details were
sparse. Possibly part of this walking movement.

Charles Millman
Plymouth Meeting PA






----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Question about Land Travel in Europe in the 1920's
From: Leslie Kelman <les.kelman43@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:07:22 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

How much do we know about the details of how our ancestors traveled
from The Pale to their new destination. I envisage that every trip
involved 2 segments; the sea segment and the land segment, because the
vast majority of those emigrating did not live in port cities or
towns.

Over the years I have found much useful information regarding sea
passenger lists and shipping records. On the other hand I am having
difficulty trying to understand details about the land segment, apart
from the fact that train travel played an important role.
I know that my grandfather and 5 children (including my father)
travelled >from Zhitomir in late 1923. They went to Riga and there they
obtained 3 visas; firstly to travel through Germany, secondly to
travel through Holland, and thirdly to enter the UK. I have some of
the travel documents as well as my father's UK Aliens card all of
which help to firmly establish dates. They left Zhitomir at the
beginning of November, 1923; and they arrived in the UK on December
11, 1923

I have done Google, Bing and Jewish Gen searches but without much
luck. Can anyone help direct me to useful sources and resources about
the land segment of our ancestors travel. I would like to do more
research on this subject.

Thanks
Leslie Kelman, Toronto


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Question about Land Travel in Europe in the 1920's #ukraine

Ivy Dennett-Thorpe <ivygar@...>
 

Dear All,


There's a lot of information about travelling to Hamburg and emigrating
to the US and other countries >from Hamburg on the website for the
Ballinstadt Emigration museum in Hamburg(
http://www.ballinstadt.de/?lang=en). It's a wonderful museum and I
understand that they've recently reopened after renovating.


Yours,


Ivy Garlitz Dennett-Thorpe


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake <BDrake@...>
 

This week's excerpt (http://bit.ly/2bkJAQx) is >from the Yizkor book of Zgierz
in central Poland about seven miles >from Lodz. In 1932, it had a Jewish
population of 4,547.
[MOD. NOTE: original URL - http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/zgierz/zgi555.html ]

This chapter recounts the story of a small group of Jews trying to flee to
Russian-controlled territory in 1939 to escape the Germans. There are many
accounts in Yizkor books of "righteous gentiles" - those that did their best,
often at risk to themselves, to show humanity to Jews in the years of the
Holocaust and even see to their safety. Such a story is told here by W. Ben
Shimon in "This Must Also Be Written..."

You can find the excerpt here:
https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/1156866594335494:0

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake <BDrake@...>
 

This week's excerpt (http://bit.ly/2bkJAQx) is >from the Yizkor book of Zgierz
in central Poland about seven miles >from Lodz. In 1932, it had a Jewish
population of 4,547.
[MOD. NOTE: original URL - http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/zgierz/zgi555.html ]

This chapter recounts the story of a small group of Jews trying to flee to
Russian-controlled territory in 1939 to escape the Germans. There are many
accounts in Yizkor books of "righteous gentiles" - those that did their best,
often at risk to themselves, to show humanity to Jews in the years of the
Holocaust and even see to their safety. Such a story is told here by W. Ben
Shimon in "This Must Also Be Written..."

You can find the excerpt here:
https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/1156866594335494:0

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


ViewMate: German translation to English of 3-page letter from 1901 #general

Connie
 

I've added a 3-page letter in German to Viewmate :

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49756

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49757

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49758

I'd be very grateful if you are able to translate it for me into English.

Thanks.

Connie Springer
larkspur@fuse.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Please response either within ViewMate or by email to Connie.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate: German translation to English of 3-page letter from 1901 #general

Connie
 

I've added a 3-page letter in German to Viewmate :

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49756

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49757

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM49758

I'd be very grateful if you are able to translate it for me into English.

Thanks.

Connie Springer
larkspur@fuse.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Please response either within ViewMate or by email to Connie.


(UK-England and Wales) National Archives Alien Registration Cards and Naturalization Case Papers Online in Their Discovery Catalogue #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The (UK-England and Wales) National Archives' Discovery is an online
catalogue of archival records across the UK and beyond, >from which you can
search 32 million records and more than 2,500 archives across the country.
Over 9 million records are available for download. See:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

In addition the National Archives has research guides on family history, First
World War and general on all subjects. Links to the guides are available on
the same aforementioned link.

The National Archives has alien registration cards >from 1918-1957 online.
They comprise 600 immigrants (700 cases) to Britain and cover the London
area only and include British-born wives of aliens who lost their British
status upon marriage. Only records where the person was born over 100 years
ago are downloadable. Britain required aliens to register with the police
starting in 1914 and pay a fee. A certificate was issued. The registration
cards created by the police are the digitized records available >from the
National Archives.

The records have interest for genealogists. Information includes: name,
date of birth, date of arrival in the UK, marital status, address, and more
including photographs. To research the records in Discovery, you need to
complete a form which is available at: http://tinyurl.com/jbnwuny
Original url:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/aliens-registration-cards-1918-1957/?utm_source=The%20National%20Archives&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7446469_August%202016%20newsletter&utm_content=MEPO%2035%20Alien%20registration%20cards

Note: Searching is free, to obtain a copy of the record does generate a fee.

Another collection that can be searched via Discovery are naturalization
case papers 1801-1871. Information on the person will include nationality,
profession, family details, birth date and place and more. Again, searching
is free but there is a fee to actually see and download the record.
For more information see: http://tinyurl.com/jdtgnjk
Original url:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/naturalisation-case-papers-1801-1871/?utm_source=The%20National%20Archives&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7446469_August%202016%20newsletter&utm_content=HO1%20naturalisation%20casepapers

The National Archives partners with both Ancestry.co.uk and Findmypast.co.uk
and more records area available through their websites -and a charge is made
for downloading the records >from these sites.

The home page for the National Archives where you may find general
information on their holdings is: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (UK-England and Wales) National Archives Alien Registration Cards and Naturalization Case Papers Online in Their Discovery Catalogue #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The (UK-England and Wales) National Archives' Discovery is an online
catalogue of archival records across the UK and beyond, >from which you can
search 32 million records and more than 2,500 archives across the country.
Over 9 million records are available for download. See:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

In addition the National Archives has research guides on family history, First
World War and general on all subjects. Links to the guides are available on
the same aforementioned link.

The National Archives has alien registration cards >from 1918-1957 online.
They comprise 600 immigrants (700 cases) to Britain and cover the London
area only and include British-born wives of aliens who lost their British
status upon marriage. Only records where the person was born over 100 years
ago are downloadable. Britain required aliens to register with the police
starting in 1914 and pay a fee. A certificate was issued. The registration
cards created by the police are the digitized records available >from the
National Archives.

The records have interest for genealogists. Information includes: name,
date of birth, date of arrival in the UK, marital status, address, and more
including photographs. To research the records in Discovery, you need to
complete a form which is available at: http://tinyurl.com/jbnwuny
Original url:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/aliens-registration-cards-1918-1957/?utm_source=The%20National%20Archives&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7446469_August%202016%20newsletter&utm_content=MEPO%2035%20Alien%20registration%20cards

Note: Searching is free, to obtain a copy of the record does generate a fee.

Another collection that can be searched via Discovery are naturalization
case papers 1801-1871. Information on the person will include nationality,
profession, family details, birth date and place and more. Again, searching
is free but there is a fee to actually see and download the record.
For more information see: http://tinyurl.com/jdtgnjk
Original url:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/naturalisation-case-papers-1801-1871/?utm_source=The%20National%20Archives&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7446469_August%202016%20newsletter&utm_content=HO1%20naturalisation%20casepapers

The National Archives partners with both Ancestry.co.uk and Findmypast.co.uk
and more records area available through their websites -and a charge is made
for downloading the records >from these sites.

The home page for the National Archives where you may find general
information on their holdings is: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Announcing A Nacao Hebrea: Prosopography of the Portuguese Jewish Nation #unitedkingdom

Michael Waas
 

Hi,

The team behind A Nacao Hebrea: Prosopography of the Portuguese Jewish
Nation, is proud to announce the formal opening of our project.

Our project, led by Drs. Aron Sterk and Florbela Veiga Frade, Ton
Tielen, and myself, and advised by a diverse set of international
scholars, is seeking to create a large-scale, interdisciplinary
database of the Portuguese Jewish Nation. The Portuguese Jewish Nation
(A Nacao Hebrea) descends mainly >from the Jews who were forcibly
converted to Catholicism in 1497 in Portugal by King Manuel. From
their historic heartland in Iberia, France, Amsterdam, London,
Hamburg, Livorno, and Venice, they spread westward into the New World,
southward into Africa, and eastward into the Ottoman Empire, even
reaching India. They lived in between worlds, living multiple
identities at the same time.

This project will seek to create a prosopographical-relational
database, allowing scholars and genealogists alike to build and
contribute information >from all aspects of the Portuguese Jewish
diaspora.

You can see our formal announcement here, through Avotaynu Online:

http://www.avotaynuonline.com/2016/08/announcing-a-nacao-hebrea-a-relational-prosopographic-database-of-the-portuguese-jewish-nation-1500-1800/

If you are interested in more information, please don't hesitate to
email me. We are very excited to moving forward and provide a new
model for approaching Jewish History and Heritage.

Best Regards,

Michael Waas
University of Haifa, MA Candidate, Department of Jewish History


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Announcing A Nacao Hebrea: Prosopography of the Portuguese Jewish Nation #unitedkingdom

Michael Waas
 

Hi,

The team behind A Nacao Hebrea: Prosopography of the Portuguese Jewish
Nation, is proud to announce the formal opening of our project.

Our project, led by Drs. Aron Sterk and Florbela Veiga Frade, Ton
Tielen, and myself, and advised by a diverse set of international
scholars, is seeking to create a large-scale, interdisciplinary
database of the Portuguese Jewish Nation. The Portuguese Jewish Nation
(A Nacao Hebrea) descends mainly >from the Jews who were forcibly
converted to Catholicism in 1497 in Portugal by King Manuel. From
their historic heartland in Iberia, France, Amsterdam, London,
Hamburg, Livorno, and Venice, they spread westward into the New World,
southward into Africa, and eastward into the Ottoman Empire, even
reaching India. They lived in between worlds, living multiple
identities at the same time.

This project will seek to create a prosopographical-relational
database, allowing scholars and genealogists alike to build and
contribute information >from all aspects of the Portuguese Jewish
diaspora.

You can see our formal announcement here, through Avotaynu Online:

http://www.avotaynuonline.com/2016/08/announcing-a-nacao-hebrea-a-relational-prosopographic-database-of-the-portuguese-jewish-nation-1500-1800/

If you are interested in more information, please don't hesitate to
email me. We are very excited to moving forward and provide a new
model for approaching Jewish History and Heritage.

Best Regards,

Michael Waas
University of Haifa, MA Candidate, Department of Jewish History


Would like a photograph of a gravestone at the Plashet cemetery, East Ham, London? #unitedkingdom

Roy Ogus
 

I would like to get a photograph of a gravestone at the Plashet cemetery,
in East Ham, London. Is anyone planning to visit the cemetery in the
near future and would be willing to take the photograph for me?
I have the detailed location information of the burial site.

Please contact me privately at my address shown below.

Many thanks!

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California
r_ogus at hotmail.com


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Would like a photograph of a gravestone at the Plashet cemetery, East Ham, London? #unitedkingdom

Roy Ogus
 

I would like to get a photograph of a gravestone at the Plashet cemetery,
in East Ham, London. Is anyone planning to visit the cemetery in the
near future and would be willing to take the photograph for me?
I have the detailed location information of the burial site.

Please contact me privately at my address shown below.

Many thanks!

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California
r_ogus at hotmail.com


Bolnik and Epels in Varniai #lithuania

Nicole Martin <nmartin81@...>
 

Hello everyone,
This is a bit of a reach, but you never know what you'll find
if you don't ask. I was recently contacted on ancestry.com by a man
whose DNA matched as a 3rd-4th cousin to my grandfather and 5th-6th
cousin to me.

The man's Lithuanian family members came >from Varniai Lithuania.
I had never researched Varniai since my family left >from Kaunas
and Taurage but lo and behold as I sifted through records my great
great grandfather Yehuda Leib Epel was born in Varniai in 1847
and moved to Kaunas in 1881. His US death record listed his parents
as Tevya and Golde Epel. Tax and voter lists confirmed Tevya as
Yehuda Leib's father and him being born in Varniai in around 1817.
But nothing was available on his wife.

Now, the man who contacted me has a great great grandfather who
had a sister named Golde Bolnik born in Varniai in 1829ish. I cannot
find any records in litvaksig or the ALD proving that my Golde WAS a
Bolnik or conversely that his Golde Bolnik did NOT marry into our
family. But we have a match for town and approx age as well as
estimated relation via DNA. I am hesitant to confirm matches without
substantial documentation but I am feeling like this is a pretty
solid one. Are there any Bolnik's here >from Varniai? Or maybe any
Epels/Appels?

TYAI
Nicole Martin
researching surnames:
Appel/Eppel, Horwitz, Abrams, Mark, Pijurski, Fainburg, Mordechelovich
Towns:
Kaunas, Taurage, Chicago, Los Angeles and now Varniai

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
the list.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Bolnik and Epels in Varniai #lithuania

Nicole Martin <nmartin81@...>
 

Hello everyone,
This is a bit of a reach, but you never know what you'll find
if you don't ask. I was recently contacted on ancestry.com by a man
whose DNA matched as a 3rd-4th cousin to my grandfather and 5th-6th
cousin to me.

The man's Lithuanian family members came >from Varniai Lithuania.
I had never researched Varniai since my family left >from Kaunas
and Taurage but lo and behold as I sifted through records my great
great grandfather Yehuda Leib Epel was born in Varniai in 1847
and moved to Kaunas in 1881. His US death record listed his parents
as Tevya and Golde Epel. Tax and voter lists confirmed Tevya as
Yehuda Leib's father and him being born in Varniai in around 1817.
But nothing was available on his wife.

Now, the man who contacted me has a great great grandfather who
had a sister named Golde Bolnik born in Varniai in 1829ish. I cannot
find any records in litvaksig or the ALD proving that my Golde WAS a
Bolnik or conversely that his Golde Bolnik did NOT marry into our
family. But we have a match for town and approx age as well as
estimated relation via DNA. I am hesitant to confirm matches without
substantial documentation but I am feeling like this is a pretty
solid one. Are there any Bolnik's here >from Varniai? Or maybe any
Epels/Appels?

TYAI
Nicole Martin
researching surnames:
Appel/Eppel, Horwitz, Abrams, Mark, Pijurski, Fainburg, Mordechelovich
Towns:
Kaunas, Taurage, Chicago, Los Angeles and now Varniai

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IAJGS 2018 Conference in Warsaw: POLIN Museum New App For Jewish Warsaw #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

During the recent 36th International IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy,
IAJGS President Marlis Humphrey announced that the 2018 IAJGS conference
will be held in Warsaw Poland-dates will announced shortly. Two of the
partners in the Warsaw Conference are the POLIN Museum and the Jewish
Historical Institute. The conference will be held in the POLIN Museum of
the History of Polish Jews. The POLIN Museum has launched a new smartphone
and tablet travel app for Jewish Warsaw. It is available on both IOS and
Android platforms. The app is called "Warsaw, Varshe" - referring to the
Yiddish name for the Polish capital. To access the app go to:
http://tinyurl.com/zn3ams3

Original url:
http://www.polin.pl/en/news/2016/08/17/discover-the-jewish-paris-of-the-north-a-new-warsaw-varshe

The application is available at both the App Store and Google Play. This is
a perfect way to start to learn about Jewish Warsaw in anticipation of
attending the 2018 IAJGS conference.

Jewish Heritage Europe wrote an article about this which may be found at :
http://www.jewish-heritage-europe.eu/2016/08/17/poland-new-travel-app-for-jewish-warsaw/
[MOD. NOTE: shortened URL - http://goo.gl/l996JH ]

I have no further information regarding the 2018 IAJGS conference. When more
information is available the IAJGS Board will make the information available.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IAJGS 2018 Conference in Warsaw: POLIN Museum New App For Jewish Warsaw #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

During the recent 36th International IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy,
IAJGS President Marlis Humphrey announced that the 2018 IAJGS conference
will be held in Warsaw Poland-dates will announced shortly. Two of the
partners in the Warsaw Conference are the POLIN Museum and the Jewish
Historical Institute. The conference will be held in the POLIN Museum of
the History of Polish Jews. The POLIN Museum has launched a new smartphone
and tablet travel app for Jewish Warsaw. It is available on both IOS and
Android platforms. The app is called "Warsaw, Varshe" - referring to the
Yiddish name for the Polish capital. To access the app go to:
http://tinyurl.com/zn3ams3

Original url:
http://www.polin.pl/en/news/2016/08/17/discover-the-jewish-paris-of-the-north-a-new-warsaw-varshe

The application is available at both the App Store and Google Play. This is
a perfect way to start to learn about Jewish Warsaw in anticipation of
attending the 2018 IAJGS conference.

Jewish Heritage Europe wrote an article about this which may be found at :
http://www.jewish-heritage-europe.eu/2016/08/17/poland-new-travel-app-for-jewish-warsaw/
[MOD. NOTE: shortened URL - http://goo.gl/l996JH ]

I have no further information regarding the 2018 IAJGS conference. When more
information is available the IAJGS Board will make the information available.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

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