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Lists of Rabbis? #general

Judith Singer
 

Is anyone aware of any reference works where I could find the names of
rabbis for various towns in Austria-Hungary? Specifically, I am
interested in late 18th-century and 19th century rabbis in the towns
of Mosciska, Przemysl, and Jaworow, located in Galicia, Austro-Hungarian
Empire, before World War II.

Thank you -

Judith Singer
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lists of Rabbis? #general

Judith Singer
 

Is anyone aware of any reference works where I could find the names of
rabbis for various towns in Austria-Hungary? Specifically, I am
interested in late 18th-century and 19th century rabbis in the towns
of Mosciska, Przemysl, and Jaworow, located in Galicia, Austro-Hungarian
Empire, before World War II.

Thank you -

Judith Singer
Please help to identify and possibly translate #general

jel
 

I've posted a picture on Viewmate --

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50199

of an apron purchased in Instanbul, Turkey, ca. 1905, for a young
teen-age girl. Around the perimeter of the garment there appears to be
some script -- old Turkish, Arabic, or possible just some decorative
embellishments. Need some help in identifying the type/occasion of
garment and the possible script/translation around its edges.

Please reply on Viewmate.

Thank you.

Judith Lipmanson
Smyrna, Delaware USA
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Please help to identify and possibly translate #general

jel
 

I've posted a picture on Viewmate --

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50199

of an apron purchased in Instanbul, Turkey, ca. 1905, for a young
teen-age girl. Around the perimeter of the garment there appears to be
some script -- old Turkish, Arabic, or possible just some decorative
embellishments. Need some help in identifying the type/occasion of
garment and the possible script/translation around its edges.

Please reply on Viewmate.

Thank you.

Judith Lipmanson
Smyrna, Delaware USA
ViewMate translation request - German (Galician records) #general

Emily Garber
 

I've posted portions of two vital records >from Mielnica and Uscie
Biskupie in German for which I need translation. They are on ViewMate
at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50111
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50112
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50113

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - German (Galician records) #general

Emily Garber
 

I've posted portions of two vital records >from Mielnica and Uscie
Biskupie in German for which I need translation. They are on ViewMate
at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50111
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50112
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50113

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.
Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ
Vysotsky in Bobruisk #belarus

Linda Kelley
 

Our family genealogists believe that our Na'az Zvie/Girsh Berezkin, b.
about 1799, son of Noson, had a first wife who was related to Kalman
Wolf Wissotzky, the tea dealer. Girsh's sons were in the tea business,
and an article in an Israeli magazine mentions a marriage to a Mr.
Bereskin. The article implied that one of Kalman's daughters married a
Mr. Bereskin, but that doesn't fit with my Girsh and Freyda. Still,
it's a possible clue that someone in Kalman's family married a
Bereskin.

The 1858 Revision List has Girsh married to Freyda, daughter of Dovid.
Freyda was born between 1800-9 and probably died before 1862. Her
father, Dovid, was probably born before about 1780-89.

Kalman Wolf Wissotzky lived 1824-1904. One of his sons was named David
1861-1930.
GENI says Kalman's father was Yaakov, son of Rephoel, son of Aryeh.

Girsh and Freyda had at least the following children:
Nisan or Nathan Bereskin 1820
Yudka Berezkin 1834
Sarah or Khaya Sora Berezkin 1840
Itka Berezkin 1841
Aaron Bereskin 1848

Girsh's second wife was Fannie Chen. They had Meyer in 1862 and Adolf in
1866.

It's possible the Berezkins lived in Chernigov area of Ukraine before
they came to Bobruisk. There were Visotskys in Bobruisk in 1858:

VYSOTSKY Vulf, son of Mendel, age 30
VYSOTSKY Meylakh Mendel brother, possibly 21 in 1858
recruited in 1854
VYSOTSKY Tema, daughter of Evsey wife of Vulf, age 30

So Vulf was probably born about 1828, and Mendel was probably born before
1808.
Kalman, the tea dealer, was living in Moscow in 1858.

Does anyone have Dovid Vysotsky and his daughter, Freyda Vysotsky Berezkin?

Thank you very much!
Linda Wolfe Kelley
Portland, OR, USA
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately
Belarus SIG #Belarus Vysotsky in Bobruisk #belarus

Linda Kelley
 

Our family genealogists believe that our Na'az Zvie/Girsh Berezkin, b.
about 1799, son of Noson, had a first wife who was related to Kalman
Wolf Wissotzky, the tea dealer. Girsh's sons were in the tea business,
and an article in an Israeli magazine mentions a marriage to a Mr.
Bereskin. The article implied that one of Kalman's daughters married a
Mr. Bereskin, but that doesn't fit with my Girsh and Freyda. Still,
it's a possible clue that someone in Kalman's family married a
Bereskin.

The 1858 Revision List has Girsh married to Freyda, daughter of Dovid.
Freyda was born between 1800-9 and probably died before 1862. Her
father, Dovid, was probably born before about 1780-89.

Kalman Wolf Wissotzky lived 1824-1904. One of his sons was named David
1861-1930.
GENI says Kalman's father was Yaakov, son of Rephoel, son of Aryeh.

Girsh and Freyda had at least the following children:
Nisan or Nathan Bereskin 1820
Yudka Berezkin 1834
Sarah or Khaya Sora Berezkin 1840
Itka Berezkin 1841
Aaron Bereskin 1848

Girsh's second wife was Fannie Chen. They had Meyer in 1862 and Adolf in
1866.

It's possible the Berezkins lived in Chernigov area of Ukraine before
they came to Bobruisk. There were Visotskys in Bobruisk in 1858:

VYSOTSKY Vulf, son of Mendel, age 30
VYSOTSKY Meylakh Mendel brother, possibly 21 in 1858
recruited in 1854
VYSOTSKY Tema, daughter of Evsey wife of Vulf, age 30

So Vulf was probably born about 1828, and Mendel was probably born before
1808.
Kalman, the tea dealer, was living in Moscow in 1858.

Does anyone have Dovid Vysotsky and his daughter, Freyda Vysotsky Berezkin?

Thank you very much!
Linda Wolfe Kelley
Portland, OR, USA
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately
ViewMate Tombstone Translation - Hebrew #general

Elizabeth Scofield
 

I've posted a photo of the tombstone of my great uncle Max (Meier) NEINKEN.
He died in 1896, age 14, about two years after arriving in the US >from Latvia.

Would someone kindly translate the Hebrew for me?

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50212

Reply privately: elizabethmscofield@gmail.com

Thank you.

Liz

Elizabeth Scofield
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Tombstone Translation - Hebrew #general

Elizabeth Scofield
 

I've posted a photo of the tombstone of my great uncle Max (Meier) NEINKEN.
He died in 1896, age 14, about two years after arriving in the US >from Latvia.

Would someone kindly translate the Hebrew for me?

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM50212

Reply privately: elizabethmscofield@gmail.com

Thank you.

Liz

Elizabeth Scofield
Deaths at Grosse Isle (Ile) Quebec #general

benzimida2000 <benzimida2000@...>
 

Dear JGenners,

I am wondering if anyone has succeeded in obtaining death certificates for
people who died while in quarantine in Grosse Isle, Quebec.

Here is link to a website with some information but records for deaths are
only mentioned as in death registers.

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/immigrants-grosse-ile-1832-1937/Pages/immigrants-grosse-ile.aspx#e
[MOD. NOTE: shortened URL - http://goo.gl/k6zUIK ]

Quoting >from above

* Burials recorded at the Grosse Ile Quarantine Station.
* Information about 4,871 people who were buried at Grosse Ile between
1832 and 1937.
* Deaths that occurred at sea.
* Information on 4,936 people who died on ships at sea, on the
St. Lawrence River or on quarantined ships at Grosse Ile, >from 1832 to
1922.
* Hospital Registers.
* Information on 12,196 people who were treated at the Grosse Ile
hospitals between 1832 and 1921.

The name I am looking for is Pesie FURMAN who died April 30, 1906 on the
SS Dominion sailing >from Liverpool with her mother Perle FURMAN and 3
siblings and a cousin. The names in the accompanying database are Pello
FORMAN etal. But this database is for those who were actually quarantined
at Grosse Isle and Pesie died so is not included.

The passenger manifest has accounted for all passengers in 1st, 2nd and 3rd
class and there are no deaths at sea.

Since the names are misspelled I searched for all the people on the SS
Dominion but Pesie does not appear.

Thank you.

Barry BROUDE
Minneapolis, Minnesota
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Deaths at Grosse Isle (Ile) Quebec #general

benzimida2000 <benzimida2000@...>
 

Dear JGenners,

I am wondering if anyone has succeeded in obtaining death certificates for
people who died while in quarantine in Grosse Isle, Quebec.

Here is link to a website with some information but records for deaths are
only mentioned as in death registers.

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/immigrants-grosse-ile-1832-1937/Pages/immigrants-grosse-ile.aspx#e
[MOD. NOTE: shortened URL - http://goo.gl/k6zUIK ]

Quoting >from above

* Burials recorded at the Grosse Ile Quarantine Station.
* Information about 4,871 people who were buried at Grosse Ile between
1832 and 1937.
* Deaths that occurred at sea.
* Information on 4,936 people who died on ships at sea, on the
St. Lawrence River or on quarantined ships at Grosse Ile, >from 1832 to
1922.
* Hospital Registers.
* Information on 12,196 people who were treated at the Grosse Ile
hospitals between 1832 and 1921.

The name I am looking for is Pesie FURMAN who died April 30, 1906 on the
SS Dominion sailing >from Liverpool with her mother Perle FURMAN and 3
siblings and a cousin. The names in the accompanying database are Pello
FORMAN etal. But this database is for those who were actually quarantined
at Grosse Isle and Pesie died so is not included.

The passenger manifest has accounted for all passengers in 1st, 2nd and 3rd
class and there are no deaths at sea.

Since the names are misspelled I searched for all the people on the SS
Dominion but Pesie does not appear.

Thank you.

Barry BROUDE
Minneapolis, Minnesota
KRAUSE/KROWITZ -- Panevezys >> South Africa #lithuania

Eric Krowie <krowie@...>
 

In the message of 11 September, mention is made of data regarding
inter alia, Ponevyz district.

My paternal grandfather , MICHOL[MICHA]/MICHAEL KRAUSE [1871--1928,DECEASED
IN SOUTH AFRICA came so I learnt >from PONEVYZ KAINAS PROVINCE LITHUANIA
to South Africa and changed his family name to KROWITZ.He married my paternal
grandmother who came >from Seduwa/Shaduva

My grandparents came to South Africa to escape the Holocaust and the
pogroms.

How do I search for any info on them.
I require documentation to possibly apply for a Lithuanian passport.My
father MORRIS [MORRIE]KROWITZ wasbBorn in South Africa. I am named after
both my grandfathers who predeceased me.I shall be pleased if
you could assist me in how to search for documentation.

Eric Krowie
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania KRAUSE/KROWITZ -- Panevezys >> South Africa #lithuania

Eric Krowie <krowie@...>
 

In the message of 11 September, mention is made of data regarding
inter alia, Ponevyz district.

My paternal grandfather , MICHOL[MICHA]/MICHAEL KRAUSE [1871--1928,DECEASED
IN SOUTH AFRICA came so I learnt >from PONEVYZ KAINAS PROVINCE LITHUANIA
to South Africa and changed his family name to KROWITZ.He married my paternal
grandmother who came >from Seduwa/Shaduva

My grandparents came to South Africa to escape the Holocaust and the
pogroms.

How do I search for any info on them.
I require documentation to possibly apply for a Lithuanian passport.My
father MORRIS [MORRIE]KROWITZ wasbBorn in South Africa. I am named after
both my grandfathers who predeceased me.I shall be pleased if
you could assist me in how to search for documentation.

Eric Krowie
Re: Ship Atlanta arriving to Argentina #general

Alberto Guido Chester
 

Let me add my two cents

I have rechecked the CEMLA website and will translate every info on
grandfather Markus, probably misunderstood because of language differences.

FELSENSZTEJN Markus
Age 20
Nationaity Polish
Profession Butcher
Arrived to Buenos Aires on 1923/06/14
Steamship Atlanta
Port of origin Trieste. (I suggest checking where was Trieste located
at this time, because if memory serves it swtiched between Italy and
Yugoslavia).

Hope this helps

Alberto Guido Chester
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ship Atlanta arriving to Argentina #general

Alberto Guido Chester
 

Let me add my two cents

I have rechecked the CEMLA website and will translate every info on
grandfather Markus, probably misunderstood because of language differences.

FELSENSZTEJN Markus
Age 20
Nationaity Polish
Profession Butcher
Arrived to Buenos Aires on 1923/06/14
Steamship Atlanta
Port of origin Trieste. (I suggest checking where was Trieste located
at this time, because if memory serves it swtiched between Italy and
Yugoslavia).

Hope this helps

Alberto Guido Chester
Re: Hungarians in the USA post 1950s #hungary

michael_perl9@...
 

I wanted to close the loop on the two requests for advice that I have sent =
in the past 10 days since it has been very successful and is a glowing test=
ament to our H-Sig. I was able to locate Klara/Rachel Perl and confirmed th=
at she is a family member. In fact, the closest Perl relative I have ever f=
ound.=20

Many people reached out to me with various ideas and offers to help but I w=
ould like to thank three of our H-SIG members in particular who were incred=
ible, Gabriel Bar Shaked, Andres Carcientes and Barbara Zimmer.

As far as some research tips - MACSE the Hungarian database is excellent fo=
r records prior to the 1950s and is limited beyond that. There are two data=
bases that helped me find this new relative in the first place.
The US Holocaust Museum digital archives has now fully transcribed the Nev=
eklarsfeld list of names including the ones of survivors in Budapest in 194=
6. It generally lists the person's mother's name but unfortunately you cann=
ot search using it making it a bit harder to find married women if you don'=
t know their husband's name. Nevertheless, it is still incredibly useful. F=
or a number of years one could not access this list online since the NeveKl=
arsfeld website closed and USHMM had not properly transcribed all records.=
I am not sure when this changed but it is recent.

Secondly, the JDC.org website has a good digital archive containing cards o=
f those who left Hungary in the 1950s and stopped in Austria on the way. It=
is there I found the card for Perl Klara born in Budapest in 1934 with the=
exact date.=20

from there, we were able to search in the US on Ancestry.com and came up wi=
th her married name, but only after trying various methods. Putting in Klar=
a Perl with her birth date did not work, one needed just the date and first=
name as well as specifying Hungary as place of birth.=20

This has been a very exciting week for me and I wanted to thank everyone fo=
r the help as well as provide some insight as to how I was able to further =
my research into the current era when data is less openly available.=20


Michael Perl
New York

<From: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> on behalf of H-SIG digest <h-sig@ly=
ris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 2:04 AM
To: h-sig digest recipients
Subject: h-sig digest: September 07, 2016
=A0 =20
H-SIG Digest for Wednesday, September 07, 2016.

1. Hungarians in the USA post 1950s

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Subject: Hungarians in the USA post 1950s
From: michael_perl9@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 02:17:04 +0000
X-Message-Number: 1

I would love some help >from those familiar with research in the US, as this=
is my first time.
I posted recently about finding more details on Perl Rachel born in 1934 in=
Budapest. Thanks to the help of a couple of very informed Jewishgenners, I=
was able to find out that her name was also Perl Klara. She left Hungary i=
n December 1956 and arrived by plane into Newark on Jan 11th 1957.=20
In my attempts to find her, I have searched all over Ancestry.com hoping to=
find a marriage record or anything else such as a full naturalisation appl=
ication, but haven't been successful.
She was 22 years old when she arrived in Jan 1957 so I am assuming that she=
got married here in the US and worked as well.=A0 What other means do I ha=
ve at my disposal to find this person?

Thanks in advance,

Michael Perl
New York

Moderator: Except for burial and Holocaust-related records, JewishGen recor=
ds typically
date >from years prior to WWII. Please contact Michael off-list with suggest=
ions for
researching Hungarians who came to the US in 1956-57 unless your informatio=
n is
likely to be of general interest.>
Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarians in the USA post 1950s #hungary

michael_perl9@...
 

I wanted to close the loop on the two requests for advice that I have sent =
in the past 10 days since it has been very successful and is a glowing test=
ament to our H-Sig. I was able to locate Klara/Rachel Perl and confirmed th=
at she is a family member. In fact, the closest Perl relative I have ever f=
ound.=20

Many people reached out to me with various ideas and offers to help but I w=
ould like to thank three of our H-SIG members in particular who were incred=
ible, Gabriel Bar Shaked, Andres Carcientes and Barbara Zimmer.

As far as some research tips - MACSE the Hungarian database is excellent fo=
r records prior to the 1950s and is limited beyond that. There are two data=
bases that helped me find this new relative in the first place.
The US Holocaust Museum digital archives has now fully transcribed the Nev=
eklarsfeld list of names including the ones of survivors in Budapest in 194=
6. It generally lists the person's mother's name but unfortunately you cann=
ot search using it making it a bit harder to find married women if you don'=
t know their husband's name. Nevertheless, it is still incredibly useful. F=
or a number of years one could not access this list online since the NeveKl=
arsfeld website closed and USHMM had not properly transcribed all records.=
I am not sure when this changed but it is recent.

Secondly, the JDC.org website has a good digital archive containing cards o=
f those who left Hungary in the 1950s and stopped in Austria on the way. It=
is there I found the card for Perl Klara born in Budapest in 1934 with the=
exact date.=20

from there, we were able to search in the US on Ancestry.com and came up wi=
th her married name, but only after trying various methods. Putting in Klar=
a Perl with her birth date did not work, one needed just the date and first=
name as well as specifying Hungary as place of birth.=20

This has been a very exciting week for me and I wanted to thank everyone fo=
r the help as well as provide some insight as to how I was able to further =
my research into the current era when data is less openly available.=20


Michael Perl
New York

<From: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> on behalf of H-SIG digest <h-sig@ly=
ris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 2:04 AM
To: h-sig digest recipients
Subject: h-sig digest: September 07, 2016
=A0 =20
H-SIG Digest for Wednesday, September 07, 2016.

1. Hungarians in the USA post 1950s

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Subject: Hungarians in the USA post 1950s
From: michael_perl9@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 02:17:04 +0000
X-Message-Number: 1

I would love some help >from those familiar with research in the US, as this=
is my first time.
I posted recently about finding more details on Perl Rachel born in 1934 in=
Budapest. Thanks to the help of a couple of very informed Jewishgenners, I=
was able to find out that her name was also Perl Klara. She left Hungary i=
n December 1956 and arrived by plane into Newark on Jan 11th 1957.=20
In my attempts to find her, I have searched all over Ancestry.com hoping to=
find a marriage record or anything else such as a full naturalisation appl=
ication, but haven't been successful.
She was 22 years old when she arrived in Jan 1957 so I am assuming that she=
got married here in the US and worked as well.=A0 What other means do I ha=
ve at my disposal to find this person?

Thanks in advance,

Michael Perl
New York

Moderator: Except for burial and Holocaust-related records, JewishGen recor=
ds typically
date >from years prior to WWII. Please contact Michael off-list with suggest=
ions for
researching Hungarians who came to the US in 1956-57 unless your informatio=
n is
likely to be of general interest.>
Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Group meeting, Sunday, Sept 18, from 1-3 P.M. #general

Emily Garber
 

Plan to join us on Sunday, September 18, 2016, 1:00-3:00 P.M. - in
room 102 at the Valley of the Sun Jewish Community Center, 12701 N
Scottsdale Rd, Scottsdale, AZ.

During the first part of the meeting we will hear a report >from those
who attended the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies conference held in Seattle this past August.

During the second half, we will have a welcome-back-from-the-summer
mentoring session to discuss our research successes and challenges.
Come prepared with reports on your progress and/or questions about how
to proceed with your research. We will talk them through together and
our local experts will try to help.

Emily Garber
Chair, Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Group
https://www.azjhs.org/Genealogy.html
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Group meeting, Sunday, Sept 18, from 1-3 P.M. #general

Emily Garber
 

Plan to join us on Sunday, September 18, 2016, 1:00-3:00 P.M. - in
room 102 at the Valley of the Sun Jewish Community Center, 12701 N
Scottsdale Rd, Scottsdale, AZ.

During the first part of the meeting we will hear a report >from those
who attended the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies conference held in Seattle this past August.

During the second half, we will have a welcome-back-from-the-summer
mentoring session to discuss our research successes and challenges.
Come prepared with reports on your progress and/or questions about how
to proceed with your research. We will talk them through together and
our local experts will try to help.

Emily Garber
Chair, Phoenix Jewish Genealogy Group
https://www.azjhs.org/Genealogy.html
63401 - 63420 of 656515