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Red Cross inquiry
#general
Palekaiko
Recently, I was contacted by someone who knows about one of my distant
relatives. He tells me that there was an inquiry to the Red Cross by someone >from the US. How do I contact the Red Cross to discover the name of the person who is inquiring about my relative? My relative's name is Norbert Aleksandrowicz. Michael Diamant Hawaii
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Red Cross inquiry
#general
Palekaiko
Recently, I was contacted by someone who knows about one of my distant
relatives. He tells me that there was an inquiry to the Red Cross by someone >from the US. How do I contact the Red Cross to discover the name of the person who is inquiring about my relative? My relative's name is Norbert Aleksandrowicz. Michael Diamant Hawaii
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Brick Wall: Locating Family from Poland
#poland
Eric Ellman <eellman@...>
Friends:
I have hit a brick wall trying to trace my GGF's. Louis ROSENBERG's family back to Poland. 1. What I want to know: more about my GGF's ROSENBERG family >from Poland, presumably Lomza. 2. What I know about my GGF, Louis ROSENBERG: * c. (July 15) 1885 - 1966. * He emigrated >from Bremen, Germany on the Barbarossa arriving on April 27, 1904 (Source: Declaration of Intention). * He indicated that he was >from Lomza on his Declaration of Intention (No. 15226), filed on , March 9, 1908. * He indicated that he was >from Lomza on his Petition for Naturalization, Dec. 28, 1911. * There is one Rosenberg on the manifest for the Barbarossa arriving on April 27, 1904. ** That entry was for Lieb Rosenberg, age 19, able to read and write, nationality, Russia; race: Hebrew; last town Nowogrod. The age matches; the Hebrew name Lieb matches closely to the American-ized Louis; and Louis' headstone says Aryeh Leib. Nowogrod is in the Lomza gubernia. This part makes sense, but there is another part that does not make sense. This same Lieb, according to the manifest says that Lieb was meeting his brother David 112-114 Spring St., yet Louis has no known siblings. Also, it appears he was travelling with 7 others >from his town because there are 8 people from same town listed above Louis on list. None of these names are knownto the family because family lore is that Louis was an only child. ** I could not find anything in the 1905 census on this David Fagin that would be a clue. I searched using Steven Morse on 110-112 Spring Street for 1905. * In 1906, Louis was married to Sarah FAGIN of Dvinsk and living in Manhattan. * In approx. 1914, Louis's father-in-law, David FAGIN, >from Dvinsk, admitted Louis' son, Charlie ROSENBERG, to the HOA on E. 95th St. and noted on the intake form that Louis ROSENBERG, was >from Lomjke. * No known siblings. * Father: Joseph according to Louis's headstone. * Buried at Mt. Zion Cemetery in the International Society of Lasker, a society >from people >from Lask, Poland. Headstone reads, "Here lies Aryeh Leib, son of Joseph." Lask and Lomza are far; over 300km apart. * A check of JRI-Poland comes up empty for a Lieb or an Aryeh Lieb connected to a Joseph that might fit. I searched sounds like Rosenberg and sounds like Lomza and sounds like Nowogrod. The search included B/D/M and the 1897 census. I also looked under the town of Lask and got two entries in the Lomza Gubernia >from Nowogrod that did start with L or J. Eric J. Ellman N. Bethesda,MD USA Searching: COHEN (London), COIRA, (Minkovsty, Ukr.), ELLMAN (Minkovsty, Ukraine), FAGIN (Dvinsk, Latvia), GREENBERG (Rzeszow, Galicia), GRUDMAN/GRUBMAN (Kedainiai, Lit./Riga, Lat.), KOTZEN (Riga, Lat./Birzhay, Lit.), KREIGER (Riga, Lat./Kedainiai, Lith.), LUFFER, ((Riga, Lat./Birzhay, Lit.), MAIDMAN (Minkovsty, Ukr),ROSENBERG (Lomza/Nowogrod, Poland), STORCH/STOCK (Rzeszow, Galicia), STERN (Narajow/Narayiv, Galicia), SZRENZIL (Narajow/Narayiv, Galicia), WYSZYNSKI (Mlawa, Poland)
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JRI Poland #Poland Brick Wall: Locating Family from Poland
#poland
Eric Ellman <eellman@...>
Friends:
I have hit a brick wall trying to trace my GGF's. Louis ROSENBERG's family back to Poland. 1. What I want to know: more about my GGF's ROSENBERG family >from Poland, presumably Lomza. 2. What I know about my GGF, Louis ROSENBERG: * c. (July 15) 1885 - 1966. * He emigrated >from Bremen, Germany on the Barbarossa arriving on April 27, 1904 (Source: Declaration of Intention). * He indicated that he was >from Lomza on his Declaration of Intention (No. 15226), filed on , March 9, 1908. * He indicated that he was >from Lomza on his Petition for Naturalization, Dec. 28, 1911. * There is one Rosenberg on the manifest for the Barbarossa arriving on April 27, 1904. ** That entry was for Lieb Rosenberg, age 19, able to read and write, nationality, Russia; race: Hebrew; last town Nowogrod. The age matches; the Hebrew name Lieb matches closely to the American-ized Louis; and Louis' headstone says Aryeh Leib. Nowogrod is in the Lomza gubernia. This part makes sense, but there is another part that does not make sense. This same Lieb, according to the manifest says that Lieb was meeting his brother David 112-114 Spring St., yet Louis has no known siblings. Also, it appears he was travelling with 7 others >from his town because there are 8 people from same town listed above Louis on list. None of these names are knownto the family because family lore is that Louis was an only child. ** I could not find anything in the 1905 census on this David Fagin that would be a clue. I searched using Steven Morse on 110-112 Spring Street for 1905. * In 1906, Louis was married to Sarah FAGIN of Dvinsk and living in Manhattan. * In approx. 1914, Louis's father-in-law, David FAGIN, >from Dvinsk, admitted Louis' son, Charlie ROSENBERG, to the HOA on E. 95th St. and noted on the intake form that Louis ROSENBERG, was >from Lomjke. * No known siblings. * Father: Joseph according to Louis's headstone. * Buried at Mt. Zion Cemetery in the International Society of Lasker, a society >from people >from Lask, Poland. Headstone reads, "Here lies Aryeh Leib, son of Joseph." Lask and Lomza are far; over 300km apart. * A check of JRI-Poland comes up empty for a Lieb or an Aryeh Lieb connected to a Joseph that might fit. I searched sounds like Rosenberg and sounds like Lomza and sounds like Nowogrod. The search included B/D/M and the 1897 census. I also looked under the town of Lask and got two entries in the Lomza Gubernia >from Nowogrod that did start with L or J. Eric J. Ellman N. Bethesda,MD USA Searching: COHEN (London), COIRA, (Minkovsty, Ukr.), ELLMAN (Minkovsty, Ukraine), FAGIN (Dvinsk, Latvia), GREENBERG (Rzeszow, Galicia), GRUDMAN/GRUBMAN (Kedainiai, Lit./Riga, Lat.), KOTZEN (Riga, Lat./Birzhay, Lit.), KREIGER (Riga, Lat./Kedainiai, Lith.), LUFFER, ((Riga, Lat./Birzhay, Lit.), MAIDMAN (Minkovsty, Ukr),ROSENBERG (Lomza/Nowogrod, Poland), STORCH/STOCK (Rzeszow, Galicia), STERN (Narajow/Narayiv, Galicia), SZRENZIL (Narajow/Narayiv, Galicia), WYSZYNSKI (Mlawa, Poland)
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Piotrikow Trybulnalski Records
#poland
Joe Ross
Has anyone ordered records >from the Urzad Stanu Ciwilenko (City Hall)
in Piotrkow Trybunalski recently? Do you know if there is any special procedure or form for doing so? Thanks, Joe Ross.
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JRI Poland #Poland Piotrikow Trybulnalski Records
#poland
Joe Ross
Has anyone ordered records >from the Urzad Stanu Ciwilenko (City Hall)
in Piotrkow Trybunalski recently? Do you know if there is any special procedure or form for doing so? Thanks, Joe Ross.
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For those interested in Kovel
#general
Bruce Drake <bruce.drake@...>
Two new chapters have been added to the translation of the 1957 Kovel Yizkor
book. They include many names of people >from Kovel. Medical Institutions and the Physicians of Kovel http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Kovel1/kov344.html The Lives of Kovel's Laborers http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Kovel1/kov344.html#Page349 Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK Towns: Wojnilow (http://bit.ly/2eAUPDL); Kovel (http://bit.ly/2dG6bY4) Kovel Yizkor Book (1957): (http://bit.ly/cA6w1d) Bruce Drake Silver Spring, MD
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen For those interested in Kovel
#general
Bruce Drake <bruce.drake@...>
Two new chapters have been added to the translation of the 1957 Kovel Yizkor
book. They include many names of people >from Kovel. Medical Institutions and the Physicians of Kovel http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Kovel1/kov344.html The Lives of Kovel's Laborers http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Kovel1/kov344.html#Page349 Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK Towns: Wojnilow (http://bit.ly/2eAUPDL); Kovel (http://bit.ly/2dG6bY4) Kovel Yizkor Book (1957): (http://bit.ly/cA6w1d) Bruce Drake Silver Spring, MD
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Re: Naming a child after deceased relative
#general
Merle Kastner <merlebk18@...>
To add to this discussion, it was customary to name
a child - (meaning 'old') "Alter" (for a boy) or "Alta" (for a girl) to 'fool the angel of death'. My grandparents lost an infant daughter at the age of 7 weeks, so when my Aunt Anita was born, they named her "Alta Bryna". There are other similar examples in my early family as well. Merle Kastner JGS of Montreal
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming a child after deceased relative
#general
Merle Kastner <merlebk18@...>
To add to this discussion, it was customary to name
a child - (meaning 'old') "Alter" (for a boy) or "Alta" (for a girl) to 'fool the angel of death'. My grandparents lost an infant daughter at the age of 7 weeks, so when my Aunt Anita was born, they named her "Alta Bryna". There are other similar examples in my early family as well. Merle Kastner JGS of Montreal
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The D&S SIG on the 29th. PS. Good news - an addition to the announced WORKSHOP.
#unitedkingdom
Raymond Montanjees
Dear interested members - following on >from yesterday's message.
Thanks to Chairman Leigh Dworkin's suggestion and arrangement, there will view a 45 minute educational video - produced by Ton Tielen - entitled " Genealogical Data >from The Archives of The Portuguese Jewish Community of Amsterdam ". The regular WORKSHOP will follow the showing after the refreshment break at 3.45(ish). Other details remain the same. Hope to see you there. Regards, THE PROGRAMME COMMITTEE
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom The D&S SIG on the 29th. PS. Good news - an addition to the announced WORKSHOP.
#unitedkingdom
Raymond Montanjees
Dear interested members - following on >from yesterday's message.
Thanks to Chairman Leigh Dworkin's suggestion and arrangement, there will view a 45 minute educational video - produced by Ton Tielen - entitled " Genealogical Data >from The Archives of The Portuguese Jewish Community of Amsterdam ". The regular WORKSHOP will follow the showing after the refreshment break at 3.45(ish). Other details remain the same. Hope to see you there. Regards, THE PROGRAMME COMMITTEE
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FW: Friedman/Friedmann and Grunebaum/Grunbaum Families
#hungary
Niftee
Hi Everyone,
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I apologize for the second email, however I just was informed that I forgot= to include the first name of my great grandfather. His name was Morris Fr= iedman. He may have had a brother here in the US, David Friedman who was b= orn in 1874 and was the witness to Morris's naturalization record in 1902=20 Elissa Boyet=09 Danbury CT
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From: ELISSA BOYET=20 Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:38 AM To: 'h-sig@...' <h-sig@...> Subject: Friedman/Friedmann and Grunebaum/Grunbaum Families Hi=20 I recently came across my great grandfathers passport application >from 1929= which listed his birth place as Rakatza which I assume is Rakacza . He wa= s born on May 26 1878 and my records show his father was Samuel and his mot= her may have been Fannie. I am looking for any information on his family i= f it is available. =20 Also I am looking for information on my great grandmother Malka Grunebaum/G= runbaum who was born in December 1881 and came here with her mother and si= blings in 1884, I believe she may have been born in Ungvar. Thank You Elissa Boyet Danbury, CT Moderator: Please contact Elissa off-list if you can help.
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Re: Friedman/Friedmann and Grunebaum/Grunbaum Families
#hungary
tom
for what it's worth, according to jewishgen's gazetteer, the nearest jewish
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communities were szendro and torna, and the nearest large jewish community was miskolc (26 miles away). ....... tom klein, toronto
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Hungary SIG #Hungary FW: Friedman/Friedmann and Grunebaum/Grunbaum Families
#hungary
Niftee
Hi Everyone,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I apologize for the second email, however I just was informed that I forgot= to include the first name of my great grandfather. His name was Morris Fr= iedman. He may have had a brother here in the US, David Friedman who was b= orn in 1874 and was the witness to Morris's naturalization record in 1902=20 Elissa Boyet=09 Danbury CT
-----Original Message-----
From: ELISSA BOYET=20 Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 8:38 AM To: 'h-sig@...' <h-sig@...> Subject: Friedman/Friedmann and Grunebaum/Grunbaum Families Hi=20 I recently came across my great grandfathers passport application >from 1929= which listed his birth place as Rakatza which I assume is Rakacza . He wa= s born on May 26 1878 and my records show his father was Samuel and his mot= her may have been Fannie. I am looking for any information on his family i= f it is available. =20 Also I am looking for information on my great grandmother Malka Grunebaum/G= runbaum who was born in December 1881 and came here with her mother and si= blings in 1884, I believe she may have been born in Ungvar. Thank You Elissa Boyet Danbury, CT Moderator: Please contact Elissa off-list if you can help.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Friedman/Friedmann and Grunebaum/Grunbaum Families
#hungary
tom
for what it's worth, according to jewishgen's gazetteer, the nearest jewish
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communities were szendro and torna, and the nearest large jewish community was miskolc (26 miles away). ....... tom klein, toronto
niftee@... wrote:
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JGS NY Meeting January 29
#general
Harriet Mayer
Jewish Genealogical Society Meeting
Sunday, January 29 at 1:30 PM at the Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th, New York NY Program: Jewish Cemeteries-Preserving a Critical Genealogical Resource Speakers: Lewis Polishook, Jamie Cotel As we know,cemeteries and gravestones are an important resource for genealogical research. Our speakers will discuss the sometimes complicated issues surrounding cemetery regulation, oversight and maintenance, >from both a governmental and community perspective, and answer our questions regarding the preservation and management of gravestones and burial society plots. Lewis Polishook is the Director of the NY State Division of Cemeteries, which works with cemetery officials on a wide range of issues including the sale of lots, service fee, and the acquisition of lands. There are some 1800 cemeteries and crematories under its jurisdiction. Jamie Cotel is the Executive Director of the Community Alliance for Jewish-Affiliated Cemeteries (CAJAC) in New York,NY and White Plains, NY. CAJAC strives to create permanent solutions for ensuring cemeteries' long-term sustainability, through a collaboration of volunteers, community leaders and local agencies, and represents the organized Jewish community's efforts to preserve and rehabilitate at-risk cemeteries. Free for members; guests welcome, $5 at the door. The Ackman & Ziff Genealogy Institute at CJH will be open >from 11 am to 4 pm. More information is available at our website: www.jgsny.org and on our Facebook page. Submitted by Harriet Mayer JGS NY VP Communications New York NY
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS NY Meeting January 29
#general
Harriet Mayer
Jewish Genealogical Society Meeting
Sunday, January 29 at 1:30 PM at the Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th, New York NY Program: Jewish Cemeteries-Preserving a Critical Genealogical Resource Speakers: Lewis Polishook, Jamie Cotel As we know,cemeteries and gravestones are an important resource for genealogical research. Our speakers will discuss the sometimes complicated issues surrounding cemetery regulation, oversight and maintenance, >from both a governmental and community perspective, and answer our questions regarding the preservation and management of gravestones and burial society plots. Lewis Polishook is the Director of the NY State Division of Cemeteries, which works with cemetery officials on a wide range of issues including the sale of lots, service fee, and the acquisition of lands. There are some 1800 cemeteries and crematories under its jurisdiction. Jamie Cotel is the Executive Director of the Community Alliance for Jewish-Affiliated Cemeteries (CAJAC) in New York,NY and White Plains, NY. CAJAC strives to create permanent solutions for ensuring cemeteries' long-term sustainability, through a collaboration of volunteers, community leaders and local agencies, and represents the organized Jewish community's efforts to preserve and rehabilitate at-risk cemeteries. Free for members; guests welcome, $5 at the door. The Ackman & Ziff Genealogy Institute at CJH will be open >from 11 am to 4 pm. More information is available at our website: www.jgsny.org and on our Facebook page. Submitted by Harriet Mayer JGS NY VP Communications New York NY
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Viewmate translation request Polish to English
#general
charles goldenzon
Dear all,
I would like to ask for help with translating the text behind two pictures of soldiers who I inferr where my grandfather's (Chil Djament) colleagues in the Polish army. The pictures date 1927 and I know he served in a cars/trucks unit. http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=52892 http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=52833 Thanks in advance, Charles Goldenzon Rio de Janeiro, Brazil MODWERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate translation request Polish to English
#general
charles goldenzon
Dear all,
I would like to ask for help with translating the text behind two pictures of soldiers who I inferr where my grandfather's (Chil Djament) colleagues in the Polish army. The pictures date 1927 and I know he served in a cars/trucks unit. http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=52892 http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=52833 Thanks in advance, Charles Goldenzon Rio de Janeiro, Brazil MODWERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.
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