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ViewMate Yiddish translation #hungary

Stuart Ungar
 

I've posted a letter in Yiddish for which I need a translation. It is on =
ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM55157
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much!
Stuart UNGAR

Moderator: Please use Viewmate to respond or contact Stuart off-list.


Hungary SIG #Hungary ViewMate Yiddish translation #hungary

Stuart Ungar
 

I've posted a letter in Yiddish for which I need a translation. It is on =
ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=3DVM55157
Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Thank you very much!
Stuart UNGAR

Moderator: Please use Viewmate to respond or contact Stuart off-list.


New York Jewish fraternities/orders/lodges #general

Jeff Miller
 

A cousin reports that he has a walking stick that was given to an ancestor
named Mordecai Dov Ber Kramer, Charles (Ezekiel) Kramer's father, that bears
the inscription "MB Kramer." It was presented on April 6 1914 by "The NY
Lodge, No. 16, OBA" - Does anyone recognize this abbreviation or know about
the presenting organization; possibilities might be the "Grand Lodge Order
sand Brith Abraham"

Was this a Masonic Order? Was that spelling correct? Or was it "Grand Lodge
Orders and Brith Abraham" [OBA could be Order of Brith Abraham?] That sounds
very Jewish - could it be interpreted as Order of Covenant of Abraham? Could
it be a Jewish fraternal order? Was B'nai Brith connected to Masonic orders?

I'd be interested in resources related to New York Jewish
fraternities/orders/lodges.

Thank you,
Jeff Miller
Maryland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York Jewish fraternities/orders/lodges #general

Jeff Miller
 

A cousin reports that he has a walking stick that was given to an ancestor
named Mordecai Dov Ber Kramer, Charles (Ezekiel) Kramer's father, that bears
the inscription "MB Kramer." It was presented on April 6 1914 by "The NY
Lodge, No. 16, OBA" - Does anyone recognize this abbreviation or know about
the presenting organization; possibilities might be the "Grand Lodge Order
sand Brith Abraham"

Was this a Masonic Order? Was that spelling correct? Or was it "Grand Lodge
Orders and Brith Abraham" [OBA could be Order of Brith Abraham?] That sounds
very Jewish - could it be interpreted as Order of Covenant of Abraham? Could
it be a Jewish fraternal order? Was B'nai Brith connected to Masonic orders?

I'd be interested in resources related to New York Jewish
fraternities/orders/lodges.

Thank you,
Jeff Miller
Maryland


Re: Mother and son share a tombstone--is it possible? #general

tom
 

Having more than one name on a stone, and presumably more than one person
buried in a plot, is not unheard of. There may have been financial or personal
circumstances that lead to this. (a widow might have had her own plot paid for,
but might not have had the means to buy another plot for her son, etc.)

To clarify the religious aspects, you should probably consult an orthodox rabbi.

....... tom klein, Toronto

Josephine Rosenblum <jorose@fuse.net> wrote:

In an Orthodox cemetery in Cincinnati, a mother and son share one tombstone.
The names and dates bear this out. She was born a full generation before him,
plus the names match what I know of their relationship. He (the son) was
divorced and had died one year before his mother. The woman's husband (and
his father) had died years earlier. The stone does not mention any
relationship in English.

The death dates are in the 1920s.

It does not seem logical that an Orthodox cemetery would allow this. Because
others may encounter this situation, please send replies to the group.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mother and son share a tombstone--is it possible? #general

tom
 

Having more than one name on a stone, and presumably more than one person
buried in a plot, is not unheard of. There may have been financial or personal
circumstances that lead to this. (a widow might have had her own plot paid for,
but might not have had the means to buy another plot for her son, etc.)

To clarify the religious aspects, you should probably consult an orthodox rabbi.

....... tom klein, Toronto

Josephine Rosenblum <jorose@fuse.net> wrote:

In an Orthodox cemetery in Cincinnati, a mother and son share one tombstone.
The names and dates bear this out. She was born a full generation before him,
plus the names match what I know of their relationship. He (the son) was
divorced and had died one year before his mother. The woman's husband (and
his father) had died years earlier. The stone does not mention any
relationship in English.

The death dates are in the 1920s.

It does not seem logical that an Orthodox cemetery would allow this. Because
others may encounter this situation, please send replies to the group.


Re: Information about military governor of Germany #general

André Convers
 

Following the post of Debbie Long please note that the French Military Governor
of Saar (Germany) in 1945 was Gilbert GRANDVAL (1904-1981), he changed his
name >from HIRSCH to GRANDVAL, he was the son of Edmond HIRSCH and
Jeanne OLLENDORF and grandson of the editor Paul OLLENDORF.

Andre Convers
Riec sur Belon, France

Deborah Long <debbietheteacher@gmail.com> wrote:

Would you have any suggestions where I can find out more about what it
meant to be a post-WWII military governor of Germany? Here is the
relative who I am researching:

"FRIED, HERBERT, Chicago, 111., Capt., USA, appointed military governor
of Hanover, Germany; reptd. Apr. 27, 1945."

I would like to know Captain Fried's duties and accomplishments. He was
reported to be the first (and maybe only) Jewish military governor at
that time.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Information about military governor of Germany #general

André Convers
 

Following the post of Debbie Long please note that the French Military Governor
of Saar (Germany) in 1945 was Gilbert GRANDVAL (1904-1981), he changed his
name >from HIRSCH to GRANDVAL, he was the son of Edmond HIRSCH and
Jeanne OLLENDORF and grandson of the editor Paul OLLENDORF.

Andre Convers
Riec sur Belon, France

Deborah Long <debbietheteacher@gmail.com> wrote:

Would you have any suggestions where I can find out more about what it
meant to be a post-WWII military governor of Germany? Here is the
relative who I am researching:

"FRIED, HERBERT, Chicago, 111., Capt., USA, appointed military governor
of Hanover, Germany; reptd. Apr. 27, 1945."

I would like to know Captain Fried's duties and accomplishments. He was
reported to be the first (and maybe only) Jewish military governor at
that time.


Entries in the new NYC (pre 1930) marriage license database, that don't have NYC marriage certificates. #general

Mark London <mrl@...>
 

Hi - I was just shown new hints on ancestry.com, for NYC marriage licenses
from the new NYC database of applications (pre 1930), that were obtained by
Reclaim the Records.

I've already come across 2 cases, for which there is no NYC corresponding
certificate. I know that the marriages definitely occurred, but I don't know
where they occurred.

I decided to search for names on one page of this new database, and discovered
that there quite a number of people, who did not have NYC marriage certificates.

from what I can tell, an NYC marriage license, would allow you to be married
anywhere in the state of New York. So it's possible that these marriages didn't
actually occur in NYC. Or would there be a more likely reason why a NYC
marriage, would not have resulted in an NYC marriage certificate?

As an aside, I came across a 3rd case >from the new license database, in which
the ancestry.com NYC marriage certificate database, did not contain an entry
for the marriage certificate. But the Italian Genealogy NYC site, did have an
entry for the marriage certificate. I don't know how common that occurs, though.
FWIW!

Mark London
Natick, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Entries in the new NYC (pre 1930) marriage license database, that don't have NYC marriage certificates. #general

Mark London <mrl@...>
 

Hi - I was just shown new hints on ancestry.com, for NYC marriage licenses
from the new NYC database of applications (pre 1930), that were obtained by
Reclaim the Records.

I've already come across 2 cases, for which there is no NYC corresponding
certificate. I know that the marriages definitely occurred, but I don't know
where they occurred.

I decided to search for names on one page of this new database, and discovered
that there quite a number of people, who did not have NYC marriage certificates.

from what I can tell, an NYC marriage license, would allow you to be married
anywhere in the state of New York. So it's possible that these marriages didn't
actually occur in NYC. Or would there be a more likely reason why a NYC
marriage, would not have resulted in an NYC marriage certificate?

As an aside, I came across a 3rd case >from the new license database, in which
the ancestry.com NYC marriage certificate database, did not contain an entry
for the marriage certificate. But the Italian Genealogy NYC site, did have an
entry for the marriage certificate. I don't know how common that occurs, though.
FWIW!

Mark London
Natick, MA


Kosice Civil Vital Records - another update #hungary

Peter Absolon
 

Good afternoon all,

It's me again with another update about Kosice Vital Records
acquisition and transcription.

I'm glad I can inform you that all civil marriage records >from Sep
1895 until July 1914 have been captured and transcribed and are now
pending quality checks before they will be uploaded to JewishGen.

There are more than 700 records to be processed. It is true that at
leas half of the events are already online (source: Kosice Jewish
vital records), however these often complement the published ones with
e.g. full date of births or other details. In addition, they contain
also Orthodox community records (those missing >from already published)
and also mixed marriages (like when groom or bride wasn't Jewish).

I trust they will be available online in short time and you will all
benefit >from it.

Now I'm going to start the work on death records (again: civil
records) and I hope I'll finish my work until end of June. So let me
use this oportunity to encourage you once again to participate in this
project by contributing to H-SIG General Fund, so all archive fees
could be covered.

For those who haven't heard of the project, please visit my (quite
simple) pages at: http://hsig.absolon.eu - where you can find all the
details, covered area and of course ways to contribute.

Kind regards,
Peter Absolon
Kosice, Slovakia


New Data Added to the ALD for Q2 2017 #lithuania

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

The quarterly addition of new data to our All Lithuania Database (ALD) is
now searchable online. This is the final addition prior to this summer's
conference in July.

A summary of the new data uploaded to the ALD for the 2nd Quarter of 2017
follows.

The Grand Total of New Lines of data is 45,409.

Revision List Template (Total Lines 17,083): Records for Kaunas District,
Oshmiany District, Panevezys District, Suwalki Guberniya, Ukmerge & Utena
Districts and Vilnius District.

Tax & Voters List Template (Total Lines 19.093) Records for many towns in
Panevezys District, Suwalki Gubernia and Vilnius City.

Vital Records (Total Lines 4,638): Births for Antakalnis in Vilnius
District. Marriages and divorces for Vilnius City. Deaths for Marijampole
and Vilnius City.

Internal Passports (Total Lines 4,595): Internal Passports for Vilnius City.

Please note that not all data in a particular template is actually data of
that specific type - eg. Passport Issuance records for Kaunas District
appear in the Revision List Template category. Conscript and Draft lists
will also appear in the Revision List category. Please look at all search
results even if you don't think the record type category is relevant to your
search. You just never know what you'll find.


Happy hunting,

Eden Joachim
Records Upload Coordinator


Hungary SIG #Hungary Kosice Civil Vital Records - another update #hungary

Peter Absolon
 

Good afternoon all,

It's me again with another update about Kosice Vital Records
acquisition and transcription.

I'm glad I can inform you that all civil marriage records >from Sep
1895 until July 1914 have been captured and transcribed and are now
pending quality checks before they will be uploaded to JewishGen.

There are more than 700 records to be processed. It is true that at
leas half of the events are already online (source: Kosice Jewish
vital records), however these often complement the published ones with
e.g. full date of births or other details. In addition, they contain
also Orthodox community records (those missing >from already published)
and also mixed marriages (like when groom or bride wasn't Jewish).

I trust they will be available online in short time and you will all
benefit >from it.

Now I'm going to start the work on death records (again: civil
records) and I hope I'll finish my work until end of June. So let me
use this oportunity to encourage you once again to participate in this
project by contributing to H-SIG General Fund, so all archive fees
could be covered.

For those who haven't heard of the project, please visit my (quite
simple) pages at: http://hsig.absolon.eu - where you can find all the
details, covered area and of course ways to contribute.

Kind regards,
Peter Absolon
Kosice, Slovakia


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania New Data Added to the ALD for Q2 2017 #lithuania

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

The quarterly addition of new data to our All Lithuania Database (ALD) is
now searchable online. This is the final addition prior to this summer's
conference in July.

A summary of the new data uploaded to the ALD for the 2nd Quarter of 2017
follows.

The Grand Total of New Lines of data is 45,409.

Revision List Template (Total Lines 17,083): Records for Kaunas District,
Oshmiany District, Panevezys District, Suwalki Guberniya, Ukmerge & Utena
Districts and Vilnius District.

Tax & Voters List Template (Total Lines 19.093) Records for many towns in
Panevezys District, Suwalki Gubernia and Vilnius City.

Vital Records (Total Lines 4,638): Births for Antakalnis in Vilnius
District. Marriages and divorces for Vilnius City. Deaths for Marijampole
and Vilnius City.

Internal Passports (Total Lines 4,595): Internal Passports for Vilnius City.

Please note that not all data in a particular template is actually data of
that specific type - eg. Passport Issuance records for Kaunas District
appear in the Revision List Template category. Conscript and Draft lists
will also appear in the Revision List category. Please look at all search
results even if you don't think the record type category is relevant to your
search. You just never know what you'll find.


Happy hunting,

Eden Joachim
Records Upload Coordinator


Learn How to Make the Most of FamilySearch.org at JGS Cleveland #general

Sylvia Abrams <sylvia.abrams@...>
 

Making the Most of Family Search.org will be addressed at the Wednesday, June 7th
meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland. Betty Franklin, a volunteer
at the Westlake Family History Center will share how to use this free site for
Jewish heritage research.

FamilySearch is an ever-growing site that aims to remain accessible to all. It
provides records >from around the world. Ms. Franklin will discuss the help
center, wiki, the learning center, research strategies, and finding original
records online or through microfilms.

Betty Franklin's background in family history extends over 20 years. She has
been able to trace relatives to 1600 and notes, "It is so great to see pedigree
sheets grow as people discover remarkable ancestors who overcame obstacles. We
are a part of all who went before and can influence for good those who follow."

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland meets on the first Wednesday evening
of the month starting at 7:30 PM in the Miller Board Room at Menorah Park,
27100 Cedar Road, Beachwood. Board members are available at a Help Desk >from
7:00 PM to assist with individual research questions. Guests are welcome.
RSVP to: Programming@ClevelandJGS.org.

Sylvia F. Abrams
1st Vice President Programming
Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Learn How to Make the Most of FamilySearch.org at JGS Cleveland #general

Sylvia Abrams <sylvia.abrams@...>
 

Making the Most of Family Search.org will be addressed at the Wednesday, June 7th
meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland. Betty Franklin, a volunteer
at the Westlake Family History Center will share how to use this free site for
Jewish heritage research.

FamilySearch is an ever-growing site that aims to remain accessible to all. It
provides records >from around the world. Ms. Franklin will discuss the help
center, wiki, the learning center, research strategies, and finding original
records online or through microfilms.

Betty Franklin's background in family history extends over 20 years. She has
been able to trace relatives to 1600 and notes, "It is so great to see pedigree
sheets grow as people discover remarkable ancestors who overcame obstacles. We
are a part of all who went before and can influence for good those who follow."

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland meets on the first Wednesday evening
of the month starting at 7:30 PM in the Miller Board Room at Menorah Park,
27100 Cedar Road, Beachwood. Board members are available at a Help Desk >from
7:00 PM to assist with individual research questions. Guests are welcome.
RSVP to: Programming@ClevelandJGS.org.

Sylvia F. Abrams
1st Vice President Programming
Jewish Genealogy Society of Cleveland


JGS of Greater Boston presents Discover Your Lithuanian Roots, June 11 #general

Ellie Goldberg
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston presents: Discover Your
Lithuanian Roots, June 11, 1:30 pm at Temple Emanuel, 385 Ward St.,
Newton, MA 02459.

Admission is free for members, $5 for non-members. Refreshments will be served.

Learn how to determine what records are available, how to access the information,
and how to optimize your searches and understand the results.

Judy Baston will present an overview of the Litvak Special Interest Group
(LitvakSIG) website and related resources that include the All Lithuania
Database (1.5 million translated records), district research groups, JewishGen
and Yad Vashem. The program is presented in partnership with the Vilna Shul.

Judy Baston has served in leadership positions in LitvakSIG, BelarusSIG and
JewishGen for over 15 years. She has moderated multiple discussion groups and
coordinates several district research groups. She is the 2015 recipient of the
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Society's Lifetime Achievement
Award.

Special Interest Groups (SIGs)
Pre-lecture 12:30 pm - 1:20 pm Bessarabia, Poland and Ukraine Post-lecture
(approx. 3:30 pm) Belarus and Litvak

2nd Annual Family History Books and Heirlooms Fair will also take place on June
11, >from 12:30 pm to 4:00 pm. Browse family histories written by JGSGB members.
Exhibits will include scrapbooks, family heirlooms and keepsakes that connect us
to our ancestors.

The JGSGB Annual Meeting and Elections will precede Judy Baston's lecture.

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston (JGSGB) is dedicated to
helping people discover and research their Jewish family history. JGSGB offers
monthly programs, special interest groups, individual help with research and a
comprehensive beginner's course. We have an extensive collection of research
materials and publish an award-winning journal, Mass-Pocha. JGSGB welcomes
beginners and has expert members with a broad range of skills in various
research techniques who are happy to help others. More information at
www.jgsgb.org

Ellie Goldberg, Newton, MA goldberg@jgsgb.org
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/jgsgboston
JGSGB on JewishBoston
http://www.jewishboston.com/organization/jewish-genealogical-society-of-greater-boston/
[MOD. NOTE: shortened URL - https://goo.gl/hfnj3o ]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Greater Boston presents Discover Your Lithuanian Roots, June 11 #general

Ellie Goldberg
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston presents: Discover Your
Lithuanian Roots, June 11, 1:30 pm at Temple Emanuel, 385 Ward St.,
Newton, MA 02459.

Admission is free for members, $5 for non-members. Refreshments will be served.

Learn how to determine what records are available, how to access the information,
and how to optimize your searches and understand the results.

Judy Baston will present an overview of the Litvak Special Interest Group
(LitvakSIG) website and related resources that include the All Lithuania
Database (1.5 million translated records), district research groups, JewishGen
and Yad Vashem. The program is presented in partnership with the Vilna Shul.

Judy Baston has served in leadership positions in LitvakSIG, BelarusSIG and
JewishGen for over 15 years. She has moderated multiple discussion groups and
coordinates several district research groups. She is the 2015 recipient of the
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Society's Lifetime Achievement
Award.

Special Interest Groups (SIGs)
Pre-lecture 12:30 pm - 1:20 pm Bessarabia, Poland and Ukraine Post-lecture
(approx. 3:30 pm) Belarus and Litvak

2nd Annual Family History Books and Heirlooms Fair will also take place on June
11, >from 12:30 pm to 4:00 pm. Browse family histories written by JGSGB members.
Exhibits will include scrapbooks, family heirlooms and keepsakes that connect us
to our ancestors.

The JGSGB Annual Meeting and Elections will precede Judy Baston's lecture.

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston (JGSGB) is dedicated to
helping people discover and research their Jewish family history. JGSGB offers
monthly programs, special interest groups, individual help with research and a
comprehensive beginner's course. We have an extensive collection of research
materials and publish an award-winning journal, Mass-Pocha. JGSGB welcomes
beginners and has expert members with a broad range of skills in various
research techniques who are happy to help others. More information at
www.jgsgb.org

Ellie Goldberg, Newton, MA goldberg@jgsgb.org
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/jgsgboston
JGSGB on JewishBoston
http://www.jewishboston.com/organization/jewish-genealogical-society-of-greater-boston/
[MOD. NOTE: shortened URL - https://goo.gl/hfnj3o ]


Prussians #germany

Sharan E. Newman
 

I haven't posted in a long time but just had a breakthrough.  I'm looking
for descendants of  Judah Arnoldi and johanna Drucker.  Judah was married
first to another Hannah and they had at least one son, Lewin.

My line is through the second marriage.  At least two of the children,
Henrietta (Fischer) and Eva (Lissman) b. 1856, come to America.  The other
two, Samuel b. 1849, and Cecelia, stayed in Stettin (I thought) but Samuel's
son, Erich, also came in the early 1900s

I have Erichs address in Stetting, but now find that part of the family
might have come >from Stolp or Preußisch Friedland (Debrzno), Pomerania,
Germany (Poland)

If anyone knows of this family or how I can access and Jewish records from
these places, I would be very grateful. I read Gothic German, if I must and
the handwriting isn?t too awful.  I can't read Yiddish.

Thank you, Sharan Newman sharan@hevanet.com

MODERATOR NOTE: GerSIG Email guidelines:
http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/email.htm#rules

FAMILY NAMES - Family names (surnames) of people you are researching
should be written in ALL UPPER CASE characters every time they appear
in any part of your Email to GerSIG. Example: Albert EINSTEIN, Ulm,
Germany. ***Don't use ALL CAPITALS for any other words in your Email***

SUBJECT LINE - Your subject line should give readers an idea of the
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German SIG #Germany Prussians #germany

Sharan E. Newman
 

I haven't posted in a long time but just had a breakthrough.  I'm looking
for descendants of  Judah Arnoldi and johanna Drucker.  Judah was married
first to another Hannah and they had at least one son, Lewin.

My line is through the second marriage.  At least two of the children,
Henrietta (Fischer) and Eva (Lissman) b. 1856, come to America.  The other
two, Samuel b. 1849, and Cecelia, stayed in Stettin (I thought) but Samuel's
son, Erich, also came in the early 1900s

I have Erichs address in Stetting, but now find that part of the family
might have come >from Stolp or Preußisch Friedland (Debrzno), Pomerania,
Germany (Poland)

If anyone knows of this family or how I can access and Jewish records from
these places, I would be very grateful. I read Gothic German, if I must and
the handwriting isn?t too awful.  I can't read Yiddish.

Thank you, Sharan Newman sharan@hevanet.com

MODERATOR NOTE: GerSIG Email guidelines:
http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/email.htm#rules

FAMILY NAMES - Family names (surnames) of people you are researching
should be written in ALL UPPER CASE characters every time they appear
in any part of your Email to GerSIG. Example: Albert EINSTEIN, Ulm,
Germany. ***Don't use ALL CAPITALS for any other words in your Email***

SUBJECT LINE - Your subject line should give readers an idea of the
content of your message. It should be like a newspaper headline.

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