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Offering for Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn NY #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Previously I made the offer to take photos at Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn. I
have not gone yet so I wanted to repeat the posting.

Some of Washington's graves are on line at a paid site but other parts of the
cemetery have not been recorded. Especially the oldest sections.It is very large
encompassing fiv separate areas as I recall. I have not been there in a long time
now. And when I go I don't have helpers with me at the cemeteries.

Washington does not have a database so everything has to be done with the office
which might mean I can not do as much as I have done at some of the other
cemeteries. It will be dependent on the information I have and the kindness of the
office.

If you want to make a request maybe you could do a little of the leg work and call
the cemetery office (if you do not have the information) and get the exact location
of the grave. I need to know which cemetery -- they are numbered -- the plot name
and location and any information they can give about the grave.

If you are sending me a request, **please**, be specific. Recently someone
sent me a family name and a society name and no date of death, no first name, etc.
for the person. I checked and rechecked at the cemetery office and there was no one
with that spelling and the society had four plots encompassing a few hundred
graves. I felt bad but I could not help the person because they had not given me
enough information.

I am pretty good at location and photographing graves. My biggest problem is when
all the stones are in Hebrew because it is hard for me to hunt for the single
person then.

I do appreciate a few dollars >from each person who makes the request to help offset
the expenses. Unfortunately the gasoline alone is adding up on these trips so it
helps me to keep doing this for everyone.

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Offering for Washington Cemetery, Brooklyn NY #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Previously I made the offer to take photos at Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn. I
have not gone yet so I wanted to repeat the posting.

Some of Washington's graves are on line at a paid site but other parts of the
cemetery have not been recorded. Especially the oldest sections.It is very large
encompassing fiv separate areas as I recall. I have not been there in a long time
now. And when I go I don't have helpers with me at the cemeteries.

Washington does not have a database so everything has to be done with the office
which might mean I can not do as much as I have done at some of the other
cemeteries. It will be dependent on the information I have and the kindness of the
office.

If you want to make a request maybe you could do a little of the leg work and call
the cemetery office (if you do not have the information) and get the exact location
of the grave. I need to know which cemetery -- they are numbered -- the plot name
and location and any information they can give about the grave.

If you are sending me a request, **please**, be specific. Recently someone
sent me a family name and a society name and no date of death, no first name, etc.
for the person. I checked and rechecked at the cemetery office and there was no one
with that spelling and the society had four plots encompassing a few hundred
graves. I felt bad but I could not help the person because they had not given me
enough information.

I am pretty good at location and photographing graves. My biggest problem is when
all the stones are in Hebrew because it is hard for me to hunt for the single
person then.

I do appreciate a few dollars >from each person who makes the request to help offset
the expenses. Unfortunately the gasoline alone is adding up on these trips so it
helps me to keep doing this for everyone.

Allan Jordan


Re: KGB investigation Files #general

Roman Ravve
 

Dear Nardo,

The most comprehensive database of the repression victims is
(http://lists.memo.ru/), it includes the data >from the database of the
victims Files stored in
Kazakhstan:(http://mvd.gov.kz/portal/page/portal/mvd/mvd_page/mvd_memorial).
It is in Russian, of cource.

There is the database for Ukraine: (http://www.reabit.org.ua/) - in
Ukrainian. There are more name lists for Ukraine, published in
separate PDFs.

However, all mentioned above is not holistic - it may not contain the
data about the place of the actual File storage. It may not contain
the name at all, and you have to contact the States Security Service
Archives directly (just recently I have such experience with Ukraine -
eventually it turned out that the File is stored in public archive).
This is the common situation with the people arrested in Harbin, also.

If anyone needs the help with the database checking - I would be glad to help!

Roman Ravve
Kiev, Ukraine
roman.ravve@gmail.com

POZNANSKY (Kamenetz-Podolsky, Kiev)
TREBUKOV (Gomel, Kharkov, Leningrad)
GUTMAN (Mozyr, Skrygalovka, Kiev)
RAVVE (Ananiev, Hashevate, Harbin)
NERUBAY (Fastov, Andrushevka)

Nardo Bonomi <nbonomi@libero.it> wrote:

Please share with the list those online databases and name lists.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: KGB investigation Files #general

Roman Ravve
 

Dear Nardo,

The most comprehensive database of the repression victims is
(http://lists.memo.ru/), it includes the data >from the database of the
victims Files stored in
Kazakhstan:(http://mvd.gov.kz/portal/page/portal/mvd/mvd_page/mvd_memorial).
It is in Russian, of cource.

There is the database for Ukraine: (http://www.reabit.org.ua/) - in
Ukrainian. There are more name lists for Ukraine, published in
separate PDFs.

However, all mentioned above is not holistic - it may not contain the
data about the place of the actual File storage. It may not contain
the name at all, and you have to contact the States Security Service
Archives directly (just recently I have such experience with Ukraine -
eventually it turned out that the File is stored in public archive).
This is the common situation with the people arrested in Harbin, also.

If anyone needs the help with the database checking - I would be glad to help!

Roman Ravve
Kiev, Ukraine
roman.ravve@gmail.com

POZNANSKY (Kamenetz-Podolsky, Kiev)
TREBUKOV (Gomel, Kharkov, Leningrad)
GUTMAN (Mozyr, Skrygalovka, Kiev)
RAVVE (Ananiev, Hashevate, Harbin)
NERUBAY (Fastov, Andrushevka)

Nardo Bonomi <nbonomi@libero.it> wrote:

Please share with the list those online databases and name lists.


Re: KGB investigation Files #general

Nardo Bonomi
 

Dear Roman,

You wrote:
To bring up the investigation, you have to locate the particular archive, where it
stored at the moment...There are several online databases and name lists, covering
the political convicts in USSR
Please share with the list those online databases and name lists. Many of us have
members of the family who were under investigation during the Communism. I have two
relatives under investigation, one of which was deported.

Thank you

Nardo Bonomi Braverman
Firenze - Italy
Researching on:
BRAVERMAN >from Podolya
GROBMAN Ukraine
LUFT and GRUENBLATT Ukraine
OCCHIPINTI and AZULAY anywhere


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: KGB investigation Files #general

Nardo Bonomi
 

Dear Roman,

You wrote:
To bring up the investigation, you have to locate the particular archive, where it
stored at the moment...There are several online databases and name lists, covering
the political convicts in USSR
Please share with the list those online databases and name lists. Many of us have
members of the family who were under investigation during the Communism. I have two
relatives under investigation, one of which was deported.

Thank you

Nardo Bonomi Braverman
Firenze - Italy
Researching on:
BRAVERMAN >from Podolya
GROBMAN Ukraine
LUFT and GRUENBLATT Ukraine
OCCHIPINTI and AZULAY anywhere


Re: Is 'Wesse' the town of Jejse (Yeysi, Jaisa, Jaisi, Jajsi, Ya'isi) in Vilna, Belarus? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Jeanette Anderson wrote:
I am attempting to trace the place of birth of my great grandfather Alfred Lewis.

Alfred Lewis
Born 1855
Place of Birth: Wesse, Poland (Russia)

Alfred Lewis migrated to Australia (via Manchester, England) in 1888. His
profession was master tailor.

I cannot find any references to Wesse, which I believe has been anglicized.
Google searches seemed to indicate Wesse may also be pronounced Jesse?
Using JewishGen, I have come up with Jejse [Polish], Belarus (also known as
Yeysi, Jaisa, Jaisi, Jajsi, Ya'isi).
---

Jeanette,

Place you are searching for is most probably modern Vidzy in Belarus at 5524
2638.

Best,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Is 'Wesse' the town of Jejse (Yeysi, Jaisa, Jaisi, Jajsi, Ya'isi) in Vilna, Belarus? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Jeanette Anderson wrote:
I am attempting to trace the place of birth of my great grandfather Alfred Lewis.

Alfred Lewis
Born 1855
Place of Birth: Wesse, Poland (Russia)

Alfred Lewis migrated to Australia (via Manchester, England) in 1888. His
profession was master tailor.

I cannot find any references to Wesse, which I believe has been anglicized.
Google searches seemed to indicate Wesse may also be pronounced Jesse?
Using JewishGen, I have come up with Jejse [Polish], Belarus (also known as
Yeysi, Jaisa, Jaisi, Jajsi, Ya'isi).
---

Jeanette,

Place you are searching for is most probably modern Vidzy in Belarus at 5524
2638.

Best,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


Seeking Kenin in Israel #general

M. Ronn
 

Hello JewishGeners,

I was hoping if someone could tell me if the children of my relatives Mikhail (son
of Vladimir/Zev) Kenin and his wife Sofia of the Ukraine, who were both born in
the early 1920s in Nezhin, Ukraine, have settled in Israel. I am looking for
current addresses and phone number. Please email me privately.

Thank you,

Michoel Ronn
New York
netronn@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Kenin in Israel #general

M. Ronn
 

Hello JewishGeners,

I was hoping if someone could tell me if the children of my relatives Mikhail (son
of Vladimir/Zev) Kenin and his wife Sofia of the Ukraine, who were both born in
the early 1920s in Nezhin, Ukraine, have settled in Israel. I am looking for
current addresses and phone number. Please email me privately.

Thank you,

Michoel Ronn
New York
netronn@hotmail.com


Polish translation with interpretation: Lodz ghetto record #poland

Karen Amato
 

I've reposted a record in Polish (now translated) >from the Lodz Ghetto,
with two questions.
Perhaps someone with knowledge about Lodz Ghetto could help answer them.
It is on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM60335

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Karen Amato (MILSZTAJN, ELBAUM, ZALCBERG, Lodz, Konskie)


JRI Poland #Poland Polish translation with interpretation: Lodz ghetto record #poland

Karen Amato
 

I've reposted a record in Polish (now translated) >from the Lodz Ghetto,
with two questions.
Perhaps someone with knowledge about Lodz Ghetto could help answer them.
It is on ViewMate at the following address

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM60335

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.

Thank you very much.

Karen Amato (MILSZTAJN, ELBAUM, ZALCBERG, Lodz, Konskie)


KGB investigation Files #general

Roman Ravve
 

Working with the archival-investigation Files >from 1930-1940s, I am
always fascinated how many biographical and genealogic information it
contains. People had been going through the serious of interviews,
giving the information about their relatives at home and all around
the globe. It lasted for half a year or more, when the arrested has
been waiting >from one interrogation to another, sitting in a cell.

They have been asked about their education, employment, political
involvement, the distant family far away.

To bring up the investigation, you have to locate the particular
archive, where it stored at the moment. Then you have to contact them,
explain how you connected to the person and ask for copies. There can
be photos, copies of the personal documents, sometimes even the
personal correspondence, which has been withdrawn during the arrest.

There are several online databases and name lists, covering the
political convicts in USSR - which investigation Files stored in the
archives of Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and other exUSSR territories.
As well as the unpublished name lists of the Russians arrested abroad.


Roman Ravve
Kiev, Ukraine
roman.ravve@gmail.com

POZNANSKY (Kamenetz-Podolsky, Kiev)
TREBUKOV (Gomel, Kharkov, Leningrad)
GUTMAN (Mozyr, Skrygalovka, Kiev)
RAVVE (Ananiev, Hashevate)
NERUBAY (Fastov, Andrushevka)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KGB investigation Files #general

Roman Ravve
 

Working with the archival-investigation Files >from 1930-1940s, I am
always fascinated how many biographical and genealogic information it
contains. People had been going through the serious of interviews,
giving the information about their relatives at home and all around
the globe. It lasted for half a year or more, when the arrested has
been waiting >from one interrogation to another, sitting in a cell.

They have been asked about their education, employment, political
involvement, the distant family far away.

To bring up the investigation, you have to locate the particular
archive, where it stored at the moment. Then you have to contact them,
explain how you connected to the person and ask for copies. There can
be photos, copies of the personal documents, sometimes even the
personal correspondence, which has been withdrawn during the arrest.

There are several online databases and name lists, covering the
political convicts in USSR - which investigation Files stored in the
archives of Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and other exUSSR territories.
As well as the unpublished name lists of the Russians arrested abroad.


Roman Ravve
Kiev, Ukraine
roman.ravve@gmail.com

POZNANSKY (Kamenetz-Podolsky, Kiev)
TREBUKOV (Gomel, Kharkov, Leningrad)
GUTMAN (Mozyr, Skrygalovka, Kiev)
RAVVE (Ananiev, Hashevate)
NERUBAY (Fastov, Andrushevka)


Alliance Colony documentation #general

Herbert Lazerow
 

Toby Gass wrote: <Does anyone know of lists of people who came to
the Alliance Colonies that would have their names <before> they were
Americanized?>

In 1932, a book was published entitled Yoval: A Symposium upon
the First Fifty Years of the Jewish Farming Colonies of Alliance,
Norma and Brotmanville, New Jersey". Page 10 contains a list titled
"The First Settlers of Alliance Who Arrived in 1882", which sets forth
the names of almost 50 couples. Some appear to be the names they
carried in Russia; most are Americanized names. Other names are
scattered throughout the book, but there is no comprehensive list of residents.
Bert
--
Herbert Lazerow


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Alliance Colony documentation #general

Herbert Lazerow
 

Toby Gass wrote: <Does anyone know of lists of people who came to
the Alliance Colonies that would have their names <before> they were
Americanized?>

In 1932, a book was published entitled Yoval: A Symposium upon
the First Fifty Years of the Jewish Farming Colonies of Alliance,
Norma and Brotmanville, New Jersey". Page 10 contains a list titled
"The First Settlers of Alliance Who Arrived in 1882", which sets forth
the names of almost 50 couples. Some appear to be the names they
carried in Russia; most are Americanized names. Other names are
scattered throughout the book, but there is no comprehensive list of residents.
Bert
--
Herbert Lazerow


Re: Seeking George Donath in London #general

Michael Gordy
 

I found him! Thanks to those who assisted.

Michael Gordy
<michael.gordy@aya.yale.edu>

I am hoping to contact Mr George Donath of Eaton Mews South, London.
Mr Donath submitted Pages of Testimony for several of my family
members...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seeking George Donath in London #general

Michael Gordy
 

I found him! Thanks to those who assisted.

Michael Gordy
<michael.gordy@aya.yale.edu>

I am hoping to contact Mr George Donath of Eaton Mews South, London.
Mr Donath submitted Pages of Testimony for several of my family
members...


Re: Is 'Wesse' the town of Jejse (Yeysi, Jaisa, Jaisi, Jajsi, Ya'isi) in Vilna, Belarus? #general

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Jeanette Anderson is attempting to trace the town of birth, recorded as
Wesse, Poland (Russia) in her mother's family tree album, of her great
grandfather Alfred Lewis, born 1855 and immigrated to Australia via
Manchester England in 1888.
She wrote: "Google searches seemed to indicate Wesse may also be pronounced
Jesse? Using JewishGen, I have come up with Jejse [Polish], Belarus (also
known as Yeysi, Jaisa, Jaisi, Jajsi, Ya'isi)."
-----

I believe you are on the wrong track identifying the town of Wesse, Poland
(Russia). By the way, Vilna, Russia is now Vilnius, Lithuania, not Belarus.

The key is accurate pronunciation of foreign alphabets. Generally, the
letter /W/ was pronounced /V/ whereas the letter /J/ was pronounced /Y/.

For Polish and Russian alphabet pronunciation, see Routes to Roots
Foundation - Archive Database -Foreign Alphabets <
http://www.rtrfoundation.org/webart/ForeignAlphabets--Polish.pdf > and <
http://www.rtrfoundation.org/webart/ForeignAlphabets--Russian.pdf >.

Obtain all possible family documents in Australia and England, including
ship manifests and naturalizations (if available), that may name your GGF's
and other family members' town of birth.

Keep in mind that, presumably, your great grandfather's original surname in
Russia was not LEWIS and his original given name was not Alfred.

Results of (phonetically like) and (sounds like) searches in JewishGen
Gazetteer for Wesse do not include an obvious match except for one
possibility, Laczno, Laka, Wiese in Poland, located 126.7 miles NNW of
Warszawa, not a significant Jewish community. Polish letter /L with stroke/
is pronounced /W/ and Polish letter /a with ogonek/ is pronounced /an/ or
/am/ but the town was also called Wiese.
< https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp >

Do you know or have you contacted Hec Alcock in Victoria, Australia who
posted a similar inquiry to RootsWeb in August 2014 about his GGF Alfred
LEWIS >from Wesse Poland Russia and Manchester, England?

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/POLAND-ROOTS/2014-08/1406913107

Good luck!
Bette Stoop Mas
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Is 'Wesse' the town of Jejse (Yeysi, Jaisa, Jaisi, Jajsi, Ya'isi) in Vilna, Belarus? #general

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Jeanette Anderson is attempting to trace the town of birth, recorded as
Wesse, Poland (Russia) in her mother's family tree album, of her great
grandfather Alfred Lewis, born 1855 and immigrated to Australia via
Manchester England in 1888.
She wrote: "Google searches seemed to indicate Wesse may also be pronounced
Jesse? Using JewishGen, I have come up with Jejse [Polish], Belarus (also
known as Yeysi, Jaisa, Jaisi, Jajsi, Ya'isi)."
-----

I believe you are on the wrong track identifying the town of Wesse, Poland
(Russia). By the way, Vilna, Russia is now Vilnius, Lithuania, not Belarus.

The key is accurate pronunciation of foreign alphabets. Generally, the
letter /W/ was pronounced /V/ whereas the letter /J/ was pronounced /Y/.

For Polish and Russian alphabet pronunciation, see Routes to Roots
Foundation - Archive Database -Foreign Alphabets <
http://www.rtrfoundation.org/webart/ForeignAlphabets--Polish.pdf > and <
http://www.rtrfoundation.org/webart/ForeignAlphabets--Russian.pdf >.

Obtain all possible family documents in Australia and England, including
ship manifests and naturalizations (if available), that may name your GGF's
and other family members' town of birth.

Keep in mind that, presumably, your great grandfather's original surname in
Russia was not LEWIS and his original given name was not Alfred.

Results of (phonetically like) and (sounds like) searches in JewishGen
Gazetteer for Wesse do not include an obvious match except for one
possibility, Laczno, Laka, Wiese in Poland, located 126.7 miles NNW of
Warszawa, not a significant Jewish community. Polish letter /L with stroke/
is pronounced /W/ and Polish letter /a with ogonek/ is pronounced /an/ or
/am/ but the town was also called Wiese.
< https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp >

Do you know or have you contacted Hec Alcock in Victoria, Australia who
posted a similar inquiry to RootsWeb in August 2014 about his GGF Alfred
LEWIS >from Wesse Poland Russia and Manchester, England?

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/POLAND-ROOTS/2014-08/1406913107

Good luck!
Bette Stoop Mas
USA

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