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Bessarabia SIG at the conference in Warsaw #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hi everybody,

It is now time to find out who are going to be in Warsaw at the conference
from our Bessarabia SIG.
I hope to have a good number of our members interested in joining us in
Warsaw.

Our Bessarabia SIG is planning to participate in
- Share Fair
- Bessarabia SIG meeting
- a number of lectures, sessions on the Bessarabia topics
- We also are planning to invite a guest >from Moldova - a local historian,
who helped us a lot at many projects. He will talk about his prospective on
cemetery research and more
- We also may have a SIG lunch or dinner with informal discussions. need to
know if people will participate

I would like to know who is planning to be at these events.

Please reply to me even if you are not yet sure.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Bessarabia SIG at the conference in Warsaw #bessarabia

Yefim Kogan
 

Hi everybody,

It is now time to find out who are going to be in Warsaw at the conference
from our Bessarabia SIG.
I hope to have a good number of our members interested in joining us in
Warsaw.

Our Bessarabia SIG is planning to participate in
- Share Fair
- Bessarabia SIG meeting
- a number of lectures, sessions on the Bessarabia topics
- We also are planning to invite a guest >from Moldova - a local historian,
who helped us a lot at many projects. He will talk about his prospective on
cemetery research and more
- We also may have a SIG lunch or dinner with informal discussions. need to
know if people will participate

I would like to know who is planning to be at these events.

Please reply to me even if you are not yet sure.

All the best,
Yefim Kogan
JewishGen Bessarabia SIG Leader and Coordinator


Re: William POSNER- Philadelphia 1930s #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

What a small world we are. According to the replies we received William POSNER who
was like " a big brother" to my mother in Philly in the mid 30s turns out to be the
uncle of very good friends of ours >from the 70s and on. WOW!

Thanks for all the replies.

Happy Chanuka and a happy new Chodesh Tevet
Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: William POSNER- Philadelphia 1930s #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

What a small world we are. According to the replies we received William POSNER who
was like " a big brother" to my mother in Philly in the mid 30s turns out to be the
uncle of very good friends of ours >from the 70s and on. WOW!

Thanks for all the replies.

Happy Chanuka and a happy new Chodesh Tevet
Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem


Re: Inclusion of Stillbirths & Adopted Infants in NYC Birth Index? #general

banai@...
 

Adoptions are listed in the NYC Birth Index under the birth name. The
records were sealed and new birth certificates issued under the same
certificate number.

I also pondered if they were listed under the mother or the father. I
have an example listed under the father's surname. But I can imagine
the mother not revealing the father's identity and finding the child
listed under the mother's surname as well.

As for stillbirths, I believe they are included in the birth indexes.
At least for a certain range of years, they are listed separately
from the other births, but they are included on the microfilms at the
FHL. But that is just the indexes; none of the stillbirth
certificates were microfilmed. And 1957 would be much too recent for
those films anyway. You'd have to try in NYC.

Banai

From: Deborah Dworski <ddworski@gmail.com>
Online access to the 1957 NYC birth index has yielded the discovery of a surprise
baby who clearly belongs on my family tree due to the unusual surname. She is
only listed as "baby girl." Pondering possible explanations of this finding has
led to more general questions about the database. First, did the NYC birth
index include stillbirths or were stillbirths assigned to the City death index?
Banai Lynn Feldstein


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Inclusion of Stillbirths & Adopted Infants in NYC Birth Index? #general

banai@...
 

Adoptions are listed in the NYC Birth Index under the birth name. The
records were sealed and new birth certificates issued under the same
certificate number.

I also pondered if they were listed under the mother or the father. I
have an example listed under the father's surname. But I can imagine
the mother not revealing the father's identity and finding the child
listed under the mother's surname as well.

As for stillbirths, I believe they are included in the birth indexes.
At least for a certain range of years, they are listed separately
from the other births, but they are included on the microfilms at the
FHL. But that is just the indexes; none of the stillbirth
certificates were microfilmed. And 1957 would be much too recent for
those films anyway. You'd have to try in NYC.

Banai

From: Deborah Dworski <ddworski@gmail.com>
Online access to the 1957 NYC birth index has yielded the discovery of a surprise
baby who clearly belongs on my family tree due to the unusual surname. She is
only listed as "baby girl." Pondering possible explanations of this finding has
led to more general questions about the database. First, did the NYC birth
index include stillbirths or were stillbirths assigned to the City death index?
Banai Lynn Feldstein


Petsetmetszo #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for assistance with =
translation of an occupation listed in the 1848 Szepes census. Appears =
that I was on the right track. Several Hungarian researchers confirmed =
that petsetmetszo, which would now be spelled pecsetmetszo, is actually =
an archaic profession, a person who makes seals by cutting them out >from =
a piece of metal. Metszo means cutter but in this case has different =
meaning than the same word "Metszo" or ritual =
slaughterer/shochet.

I have added this term to a growing list of Hungarian occupations that I =
believe Tom Venetianer created. We will eventually upload the list to =
the Hungarian SIG website but, in the meantime, please contact me =
off-list and I will send it.

And BTW, I am still looking for folks who would like to help transcribe =
the 1848 Szepes census records. We are making good progress but could =
use additional volunteers.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator=


Hungary SIG #Hungary Petsetmetszo #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for assistance with =
translation of an occupation listed in the 1848 Szepes census. Appears =
that I was on the right track. Several Hungarian researchers confirmed =
that petsetmetszo, which would now be spelled pecsetmetszo, is actually =
an archaic profession, a person who makes seals by cutting them out >from =
a piece of metal. Metszo means cutter but in this case has different =
meaning than the same word "Metszo" or ritual =
slaughterer/shochet.

I have added this term to a growing list of Hungarian occupations that I =
believe Tom Venetianer created. We will eventually upload the list to =
the Hungarian SIG website but, in the meantime, please contact me =
off-list and I will send it.

And BTW, I am still looking for folks who would like to help transcribe =
the 1848 Szepes census records. We are making good progress but could =
use additional volunteers.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator=


Re: Need Hungarian Translation Assistance #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

Petsetmetszo would be spelled pecsetmetszo in our days. It is an archaic pr=
ofession, a person who makes seals by cutting them out >from a piece of meta=
l. (metszo meaning cutter. Not to be mistaken with the same word "Metszo" m=
eaning a ritual slaughterer/shochet)

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950

-----Original Message-----
From: H-SIG [mailto:h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 1:10 AM
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [h-sig] Need Hungarian Translation Assistance

I am transcribing 1848 Szepes census records and came across a puzzling occ=
upation. Looks like petsetmetszo (with an accent on the second e and diacri=
tic over the final o. Metszo is the root for the word engrave=3D. Pecset w=
ith an accent on the second e means seal (as in official seal, not the mamm=
al). Is petsetmetszo or seal engraver some kind of archaic occupation?

Vivian Kahn


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Need Hungarian Translation Assistance #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

Petsetmetszo would be spelled pecsetmetszo in our days. It is an archaic pr=
ofession, a person who makes seals by cutting them out >from a piece of meta=
l. (metszo meaning cutter. Not to be mistaken with the same word "Metszo" m=
eaning a ritual slaughterer/shochet)

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950

-----Original Message-----
From: H-SIG [mailto:h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 1:10 AM
To: H-SIG <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Subject: [h-sig] Need Hungarian Translation Assistance

I am transcribing 1848 Szepes census records and came across a puzzling occ=
upation. Looks like petsetmetszo (with an accent on the second e and diacri=
tic over the final o. Metszo is the root for the word engrave=3D. Pecset w=
ith an accent on the second e means seal (as in official seal, not the mamm=
al). Is petsetmetszo or seal engraver some kind of archaic occupation?

Vivian Kahn


HIRSCHLAFF Family #germany

Ronnie Hess
 

Dear Genners,

I am trying to trace the American branch of the HIRSCHLAFF side of my
family. My grandmother, Ida HIRSCHLAFF HESS had relatives who immigrated
to the U.S. (She remained in Germany.) These were:
1. Her brother, Georg, b. 1872 in Guben, Germany. In New York, he married
Eva LIPPMANN in January, 1899 and had a daughter Rosa/Rosie HIRSCHLAFF
(also HIRSCHLOVE), b. 6 November 1899.
2. Her uncle, Joseph Hirschlaff (HIRSCHLOF) b. 1840, married Augusta
(Gittel) MAYER in 1877, had a son, Max HIRSCHLAFF, b. 1878, d. February
1947. Max married Selda GRITLEFELD who predeceased him.

If anyone has information regarding above, please respond privately.
Thank you.

Best, (Ms.) Ronnie Hess, Madison, WI rlhess@wisc.edu


German SIG #Germany HIRSCHLAFF Family #germany

Ronnie Hess
 

Dear Genners,

I am trying to trace the American branch of the HIRSCHLAFF side of my
family. My grandmother, Ida HIRSCHLAFF HESS had relatives who immigrated
to the U.S. (She remained in Germany.) These were:
1. Her brother, Georg, b. 1872 in Guben, Germany. In New York, he married
Eva LIPPMANN in January, 1899 and had a daughter Rosa/Rosie HIRSCHLAFF
(also HIRSCHLOVE), b. 6 November 1899.
2. Her uncle, Joseph Hirschlaff (HIRSCHLOF) b. 1840, married Augusta
(Gittel) MAYER in 1877, had a son, Max HIRSCHLAFF, b. 1878, d. February
1947. Max married Selda GRITLEFELD who predeceased him.

If anyone has information regarding above, please respond privately.
Thank you.

Best, (Ms.) Ronnie Hess, Madison, WI rlhess@wisc.edu


Kalman Wolock Novoselitza Roumania #ukraine

Marilyn Levinson
 

Dear fellow researchers
I found the passenger manifest for my ancestor Kalman Wolock. He arrived in NYC on July 1, 1921. His information is contained on line
15 of the manifest. Above his name in handwritten words are "Ret. fm hosp. 7-6-21, and the last word I cannot read. Since the boat
arrived on July 1 was Kalman kept on board ship in the ship's hospital or at a hospital at the immigration station? On the second
sheet of his manifest it states he has impetigo which I read is a bacterial infection of the superficial skin. His complexion is
described as fresh, a word I have never seen used before to describe a complexion. Since Kalman had money and a relative to go to
in NYC would this "minor" ailment not have been of concern to immigration officials. I also note, although it has no relevance
to this inquiry, that Kalman worked as a fur operator until 1925 where the New York census has him as a patient in a sanitorium,
and he died of tuberculosis in 1928 at a hospital in Duarte California. Thank you for your help.
Marilyn Levinson
Spring Lake NC


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Kalman Wolock Novoselitza Roumania #ukraine

Marilyn Levinson
 

Dear fellow researchers
I found the passenger manifest for my ancestor Kalman Wolock. He arrived in NYC on July 1, 1921. His information is contained on line
15 of the manifest. Above his name in handwritten words are "Ret. fm hosp. 7-6-21, and the last word I cannot read. Since the boat
arrived on July 1 was Kalman kept on board ship in the ship's hospital or at a hospital at the immigration station? On the second
sheet of his manifest it states he has impetigo which I read is a bacterial infection of the superficial skin. His complexion is
described as fresh, a word I have never seen used before to describe a complexion. Since Kalman had money and a relative to go to
in NYC would this "minor" ailment not have been of concern to immigration officials. I also note, although it has no relevance
to this inquiry, that Kalman worked as a fur operator until 1925 where the New York census has him as a patient in a sanitorium,
and he died of tuberculosis in 1928 at a hospital in Duarte California. Thank you for your help.
Marilyn Levinson
Spring Lake NC


research for KANNER family #ukraine

JUROVSKY,Catherine <catherine.jurovsky@...>
 

Dear Genners
I am researching the sister of my grand mother FEYGA/FENIA BEZPALOV who married a KANNER. She was born in 1883 in NIKOPOL (oblast Dniepropetrovsk) She probably moved with her parents to ODESSA. At some point (I do not know when) she moved to Israel. She had 3 daughters. If one can give me information or how to proceed to start a research in Israel I would be very grateful.
Best regards
Catherine JUROVSKY


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine research for KANNER family #ukraine

JUROVSKY,Catherine <catherine.jurovsky@...>
 

Dear Genners
I am researching the sister of my grand mother FEYGA/FENIA BEZPALOV who married a KANNER. She was born in 1883 in NIKOPOL (oblast Dniepropetrovsk) She probably moved with her parents to ODESSA. At some point (I do not know when) she moved to Israel. She had 3 daughters. If one can give me information or how to proceed to start a research in Israel I would be very grateful.
Best regards
Catherine JUROVSKY


Jewish Families From Aden in Port Said #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners,

I am writing an article about the Jewish community in Port Said which short lived
there between 1859-1956. 75% of its members were Jews >from Aden. All of them held
British nationality and most of them moved through the years to the UK and further
(USA, Australia). If you know of such families I would like to have their surnames.


Please respond privately.

Jacob Rosen-Koenigsbuch
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Families From Aden in Port Said #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners,

I am writing an article about the Jewish community in Port Said which short lived
there between 1859-1956. 75% of its members were Jews >from Aden. All of them held
British nationality and most of them moved through the years to the UK and further
(USA, Australia). If you know of such families I would like to have their surnames.


Please respond privately.

Jacob Rosen-Koenigsbuch
Jerusalem


Re: Looking for Grave of Yehuda Goor (Grazovsky) in Israel #general

Jerry Zevin
 

I would like to thank the following people who helped me with my search for the
gravesite of Yehuda Goor (Grazovsky). Daniel Horowitz >from MyHeritage pointed me to
all the records and pictures MyHeritage has about Yehuda Goor. Dahn Cukier provided
me with the exact location of the grave in Trumpledor cemetery as well as
translating the obituary of Yehuda Goor. Maida Dacher contacted me to put me in
touch with a living descendant of Yehuda Goor. Nancy Holden for guiding me through
the process of uncovering so much wonderful information about my genealogy.
Jerry Zevin
Irvine, CA

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Looking for Grave of Yehuda Goor (Grazovsky) in Israel #general

Jerry Zevin
 

I would like to thank the following people who helped me with my search for the
gravesite of Yehuda Goor (Grazovsky). Daniel Horowitz >from MyHeritage pointed me to
all the records and pictures MyHeritage has about Yehuda Goor. Dahn Cukier provided
me with the exact location of the grave in Trumpledor cemetery as well as
translating the obituary of Yehuda Goor. Maida Dacher contacted me to put me in
touch with a living descendant of Yehuda Goor. Nancy Holden for guiding me through
the process of uncovering so much wonderful information about my genealogy.
Jerry Zevin
Irvine, CA

MODERATOR: A wonderful way to show your appreciation of those who assisted you in
discovering your ancestors is to make a donation in their honor to JewishGen. This
supports JewishGen and makes sure that JewishGen continues its wonderful work. Go
the "donate" tab on JewishGen and make a donation to the General Fund or the
project f your choice.

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