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Re: Are most WEILLs leviyim? #rabbinic

Mordechai Perlman
 

Bezalel Weill of Topolcany, Slovakia <linktree@yahoo.com> asked if Weills
are Leviyim.

My friend Alexander Weill, currently living in Baltimore, USA is not
a Levite. Neither is my friend Binyomin Weill >from Alsace, France.

Rav Nesanel Weil of Karlsruhe, Germany, the Korbon Nesanel, was not
a Levite, as his 7th generation ancestor, Rabbeinu Yaakov bar Yehuda Weill
of Augsberg, Germany was also not a Levite.

Mordechai Perlman; Jerusalem, Israel

-----Original Message-----

From: Bernard Weill <linktree@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:44:00 -0400

Often times i am asked if i am related to the Korban Nesanel (a commentary
on the Talmud) and i am quick to answer no because i believe the korban
nesanel was a levi (levite) whereas i am not a levi. I do find it
fascinating that the hebrew letters spelling my surname WEILL are similar to
those of Levi. Are there research tools or resources to determine if
perhaps my ancestors going back several generations were in fact leviyim?
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic RE: Are most WEILLs leviyim? #rabbinic

Mordechai Perlman
 

Bezalel Weill of Topolcany, Slovakia <linktree@yahoo.com> asked if Weills
are Leviyim.

My friend Alexander Weill, currently living in Baltimore, USA is not
a Levite. Neither is my friend Binyomin Weill >from Alsace, France.

Rav Nesanel Weil of Karlsruhe, Germany, the Korbon Nesanel, was not
a Levite, as his 7th generation ancestor, Rabbeinu Yaakov bar Yehuda Weill
of Augsberg, Germany was also not a Levite.

Mordechai Perlman; Jerusalem, Israel

-----Original Message-----

From: Bernard Weill <linktree@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:44:00 -0400

Often times i am asked if i am related to the Korban Nesanel (a commentary
on the Talmud) and i am quick to answer no because i believe the korban
nesanel was a levi (levite) whereas i am not a levi. I do find it
fascinating that the hebrew letters spelling my surname WEILL are similar to
those of Levi. Are there research tools or resources to determine if
perhaps my ancestors going back several generations were in fact leviyim?
IGRA Israel hosts Andrew Zalewski #general

Catherine Gordon
 

Please join us for the event hosted by the Israel Genealogical Research
Association (IGRA). The program will feature talk by Andrew Zalewski, a
Gesher Galicia board member and editor of the organization's journal the
"Galitzianer."
Wednesday, May 16, 2018
Yigal Yadin St. 41
Modi'in-Maccabim-Reut, Israel.
Time: 19:30 - 21:30 p.m.
Talk: "Galician Portraits: Jews, Gentiles, and Emperors"
Let's discover the largest Jewish community in Austro-Hungary, learn
stories about personal perseverance, and explore unique records. This will
be an opportunity to share your interest in Jewish genealogy of Galicia. We
look forward to meeting many Gesher Galicia members and non-members who are
planning to attend this event. Questions about the event can be directed to
igramodiin@gmail.com. Please pre-register by sending an email with your
details.
The event is open to the public: members and non-members are welcome.
IGRA members free. Non-members 20 shekels.
Don't forget to bring a friend!
Catherine Gordon
IGRA Modi'in
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IGRA Israel hosts Andrew Zalewski #general

Catherine Gordon
 

Please join us for the event hosted by the Israel Genealogical Research
Association (IGRA). The program will feature talk by Andrew Zalewski, a
Gesher Galicia board member and editor of the organization's journal the
"Galitzianer."
Wednesday, May 16, 2018
Yigal Yadin St. 41
Modi'in-Maccabim-Reut, Israel.
Time: 19:30 - 21:30 p.m.
Talk: "Galician Portraits: Jews, Gentiles, and Emperors"
Let's discover the largest Jewish community in Austro-Hungary, learn
stories about personal perseverance, and explore unique records. This will
be an opportunity to share your interest in Jewish genealogy of Galicia. We
look forward to meeting many Gesher Galicia members and non-members who are
planning to attend this event. Questions about the event can be directed to
igramodiin@gmail.com. Please pre-register by sending an email with your
details.
The event is open to the public: members and non-members are welcome.
IGRA members free. Non-members 20 shekels.
Don't forget to bring a friend!
Catherine Gordon
IGRA Modi'in
SCHREIBER from Stropkov #hungary

dan@...
 

Dear fellow H-Siggers,

I'd like to hear >from anyone with Schreiber relatives >from the village of Stropkov (formerly Sztropko) in eastern Slovakia.

In the mid-19th century, Sztropko was a village of some 500 souls, more than half of them Jews. Dozens of Schreibers seem to have lived there, constantly intermarrying with other Schreibers.Now Iâ??m trying to figure out the common ancestor of these interrelated Scxhreibers.

I've found three separate but interrelated trees for the Schreibers of Stropkov. One is descended >from Rabbi Wolf Schreiber (1790-1865). A second branch is descended >from Elimelech Schreiber (c 1823-1891) and his sister Chaya (c1835-c 1920), who married a son of Wolf Schreiber. The third tree descends >from my great-great-great-grandmother Rachel Leah Schreiber Sobel (1810?-1863?) and her apparent older brother Herman/Hirsch Schreiber (1794-1857).

In all three of these trees, I find many Schreiber men named Abraham, Wolf and Isaac. Other related surnames are Sobel, Reiss, and Weinberger.

I've already combed Melody Amsel's history of the Jews of Bardejov, "Between Galicia and Hungary." Iâ??ve been in touch with Melody herself. Any additional clues would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.
Dan Rottenberg
1315 Walnut St.
Suite 904
Philadelphia PA 19107
Phone: (215) 735-1455
Fax: (215) 735-1455
e-mail: dan@danrottenberg.com
website: www.danrottenberg.com
Hungary SIG #Hungary SCHREIBER from Stropkov #hungary

dan@...
 

Dear fellow H-Siggers,

I'd like to hear >from anyone with Schreiber relatives >from the village of Stropkov (formerly Sztropko) in eastern Slovakia.

In the mid-19th century, Sztropko was a village of some 500 souls, more than half of them Jews. Dozens of Schreibers seem to have lived there, constantly intermarrying with other Schreibers.Now Iâ??m trying to figure out the common ancestor of these interrelated Scxhreibers.

I've found three separate but interrelated trees for the Schreibers of Stropkov. One is descended >from Rabbi Wolf Schreiber (1790-1865). A second branch is descended >from Elimelech Schreiber (c 1823-1891) and his sister Chaya (c1835-c 1920), who married a son of Wolf Schreiber. The third tree descends >from my great-great-great-grandmother Rachel Leah Schreiber Sobel (1810?-1863?) and her apparent older brother Herman/Hirsch Schreiber (1794-1857).

In all three of these trees, I find many Schreiber men named Abraham, Wolf and Isaac. Other related surnames are Sobel, Reiss, and Weinberger.

I've already combed Melody Amsel's history of the Jews of Bardejov, "Between Galicia and Hungary." Iâ??ve been in touch with Melody herself. Any additional clues would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.
Dan Rottenberg
1315 Walnut St.
Suite 904
Philadelphia PA 19107
Phone: (215) 735-1455
Fax: (215) 735-1455
e-mail: dan@danrottenberg.com
website: www.danrottenberg.com
GOLDFARB & APPEL of Bardejov #hungary

jyfogel@...
 

Hi, my gggrandmother Mina Appel was first married to my gggrandfather
Leopold ATLAS and lived in Raslivice. After the death of her husband
(buried in Raslivice) she married in 1889 Solomon GOLDFARB and lived
in Bardejov. Mina died in 1912 and is buried in Bardejov. If anyone
knows information like if she had more children with her second
husband I would appreciate.

Jacob Fogel Montreal

Moderator: Please respond off-list unless information is of general interest.
Hungary SIG #Hungary GOLDFARB & APPEL of Bardejov #hungary

jyfogel@...
 

Hi, my gggrandmother Mina Appel was first married to my gggrandfather
Leopold ATLAS and lived in Raslivice. After the death of her husband
(buried in Raslivice) she married in 1889 Solomon GOLDFARB and lived
in Bardejov. Mina died in 1912 and is buried in Bardejov. If anyone
knows information like if she had more children with her second
husband I would appreciate.

Jacob Fogel Montreal

Moderator: Please respond off-list unless information is of general interest.
Newman.Neyman. Neiman.? #lithuania

Marion Newman <micmarnew2@...>
 

Anyone or everyone. Help.!!
Please could someone recommend a researcher for me. I have tried
different people without much luck.
One was far too expensive and the others seemed to have given up.
It's obviously not that eay to find the family.
I have totally hit a brick wall and am getting so frustrated.
We have documents >from Lithuania, so we know the family were there.
Any help would be marvellous. Thanks so much.
Regards.
Marion Newman

MODERATOR'S NOTE:Please respond privately with any suggestions for researchers.
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Newman.Neyman. Neiman.? #lithuania

Marion Newman <micmarnew2@...>
 

Anyone or everyone. Help.!!
Please could someone recommend a researcher for me. I have tried
different people without much luck.
One was far too expensive and the others seemed to have given up.
It's obviously not that eay to find the family.
I have totally hit a brick wall and am getting so frustrated.
We have documents >from Lithuania, so we know the family were there.
Any help would be marvellous. Thanks so much.
Regards.
Marion Newman

MODERATOR'S NOTE:Please respond privately with any suggestions for researchers.
Re: New Data Added to the ALD for the First Quarter of 2018 #lithuania

Adam Cherson
 

Eden,

Thanks for the upadate and a quick question:

Is there an effective way to search the ALD for new records without
bringing up all the prior records?

If so, please detail the instructions. What date should be used to
search only in the newest batch of records announced below?

Appreciated,
Adam


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Subject: New Data Added to the ALD for the First Quarter of 2018
From: esjoachim@optonline.net
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 13:38:34 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

The quarterly addition of new data to our All Lithuania Database (ALD)
is
now searchable online.

A summary of the new data uploaded to the ALD for the 1st Quarter of
2018 is
below.

The Grand Total of New Lines of data is 16,177.

Revision List Template (Total Lines 10,503): Records for Disna town and
District, Oshmiany District, Sejny District in Suwalki Guberniya, many
towns
in Vilnius District and Vilnius City, and Zarasai District (Rokiskis
town).

Tax / Voters Template (Total Lines 3,122): Records for Kaunas District,
Panevezys District and Vilnius District plus countrywide list of medical
practitioners.

Internal Passports (Total Lines 2,552): Foreign Passports for Vilnius
City.

Please note that not all data in a particular template is actually data
of
that specific type - eg. Passport Issuance records for Kaunas District
appear in the Revision List Template category. Conscript and Draft lists
will also appear in the Revision List category. Please look at all
search
results even if you don't think the record type category is relevant to
your
search. You just never know what you'll find.


Happy hunting,

Eden Joachim
Records Upload Coordinator
esjoachim@optonline.net
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: New Data Added to the ALD for the First Quarter of 2018 #lithuania

Adam Cherson
 

Eden,

Thanks for the upadate and a quick question:

Is there an effective way to search the ALD for new records without
bringing up all the prior records?

If so, please detail the instructions. What date should be used to
search only in the newest batch of records announced below?

Appreciated,
Adam


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Subject: New Data Added to the ALD for the First Quarter of 2018
From: esjoachim@optonline.net
Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 13:38:34 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

The quarterly addition of new data to our All Lithuania Database (ALD)
is
now searchable online.

A summary of the new data uploaded to the ALD for the 1st Quarter of
2018 is
below.

The Grand Total of New Lines of data is 16,177.

Revision List Template (Total Lines 10,503): Records for Disna town and
District, Oshmiany District, Sejny District in Suwalki Guberniya, many
towns
in Vilnius District and Vilnius City, and Zarasai District (Rokiskis
town).

Tax / Voters Template (Total Lines 3,122): Records for Kaunas District,
Panevezys District and Vilnius District plus countrywide list of medical
practitioners.

Internal Passports (Total Lines 2,552): Foreign Passports for Vilnius
City.

Please note that not all data in a particular template is actually data
of
that specific type - eg. Passport Issuance records for Kaunas District
appear in the Revision List Template category. Conscript and Draft lists
will also appear in the Revision List category. Please look at all
search
results even if you don't think the record type category is relevant to
your
search. You just never know what you'll find.


Happy hunting,

Eden Joachim
Records Upload Coordinator
esjoachim@optonline.net
New file added to Vilnius District Research Group #lithuania

Jill Anderson <jill.anderson@...>
 

I have just added a file of conscripts to the Russian Army in 1913. It
is on the "Data" page, under "Vilnius Draft and Conscription Lists".
There is information on the conscript and often on his family, giving
names, ages, relationships and addresses. There are 2,750 lines of
information. Contributors to the Group will have access to the file
straight away. It won't be added to the All Lithuania Database (ALD) for
18 months. If you are not a contributor, please consider becoming one.

For a contribution of $100 you will have access to all the Vilnius
District records for 5 years. They are on Excel spreadsheets and you can
download them to your computer and search them by surname, first name,
year, town name etc. We have more records to be translated but we need
funds to enable us to do so. We have to purchase records >from archives
and pay for translations, though we are fortunate to have some =
volunteers to translate for us. Please see this link for information on
the group and how to contribute.
https://www.litvaksig.org/research/district-research/vilnius-district-
research-group


Jill Anderson
District Coordinator
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania New file added to Vilnius District Research Group #lithuania

Jill Anderson <jill.anderson@...>
 

I have just added a file of conscripts to the Russian Army in 1913. It
is on the "Data" page, under "Vilnius Draft and Conscription Lists".
There is information on the conscript and often on his family, giving
names, ages, relationships and addresses. There are 2,750 lines of
information. Contributors to the Group will have access to the file
straight away. It won't be added to the All Lithuania Database (ALD) for
18 months. If you are not a contributor, please consider becoming one.

For a contribution of $100 you will have access to all the Vilnius
District records for 5 years. They are on Excel spreadsheets and you can
download them to your computer and search them by surname, first name,
year, town name etc. We have more records to be translated but we need
funds to enable us to do so. We have to purchase records >from archives
and pay for translations, though we are fortunate to have some =
volunteers to translate for us. Please see this link for information on
the group and how to contribute.
https://www.litvaksig.org/research/district-research/vilnius-district-
research-group


Jill Anderson
District Coordinator
Re: Is there a Jewish DNA data base for searches? #dna

The Gateway Team <gateway808@...>
 

Hello.
I have just discovered that I  am at least part Jewish. I never knew and
the surprise is still settling in. It began with a DNA test that found I
was ten percent Ashkenazi Jew. That's not much, but it is a total surprise
and a very happy discovery.

I uploaded my DNA results to Ged Match and the overwhelming amount of 3rd,
4th, 5th cousins located in the New York Metropolitan area- with a large
dash of rabbis in the mix.

This led me to seeking out the history of my great grandparents, but almost
nothing is known of them. Great grandfather was a Bartz >from Russia whose
land was taken during the Deportation of Germans circa 1914. His wife,
Annie (Anna?) Luks came >from Poland. Other than that, there seems no way to
trace them further back. We have no names of their fathers or mothers, nor
even the villages they came from.

However, through the DNA comparisons on GedMatch, I may be able to find
closer matches, and they may know more.  This has been such a proud moment
for our entire family.  And very surprising.

Is there a DNA data base specifically for Jewish searches?  
Hello everyone... nice to meet you here!
Suzanne Olsson
Jacksonville, Florida
DNA Research #DNA Re: Is there a Jewish DNA data base for searches? #dna

The Gateway Team <gateway808@...>
 

Hello.
I have just discovered that I  am at least part Jewish. I never knew and
the surprise is still settling in. It began with a DNA test that found I
was ten percent Ashkenazi Jew. That's not much, but it is a total surprise
and a very happy discovery.

I uploaded my DNA results to Ged Match and the overwhelming amount of 3rd,
4th, 5th cousins located in the New York Metropolitan area- with a large
dash of rabbis in the mix.

This led me to seeking out the history of my great grandparents, but almost
nothing is known of them. Great grandfather was a Bartz >from Russia whose
land was taken during the Deportation of Germans circa 1914. His wife,
Annie (Anna?) Luks came >from Poland. Other than that, there seems no way to
trace them further back. We have no names of their fathers or mothers, nor
even the villages they came from.

However, through the DNA comparisons on GedMatch, I may be able to find
closer matches, and they may know more.  This has been such a proud moment
for our entire family.  And very surprising.

Is there a DNA data base specifically for Jewish searches?  
Hello everyone... nice to meet you here!
Suzanne Olsson
Jacksonville, Florida
Benny MERDLER in New York #general

Ella Welther
 

Hi,
I am looking for any information about Benny ( probably Berl ) MERDLER
born about 1873 to Marcus Merdler and Fanny Wasserman.
Benny married July 1913 in New York Clara Segale.
According to Campulung Birth Records Merdler (Moerdler) Marcus aka
Hendzel or Hedzel and Fanny aka Feige Wassermann had also following
children:
Silke born 1870
first name unknown born 1873
Moses born 1874
Melech born 1877
My guess is that Silke, unknown, Moses and Melech are Benny's siblings.
I would like to find out if there are descendants of any of them.
Sincerely,
Hannelore Condiescu
France
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Benny MERDLER in New York #general

Ella Welther
 

Hi,
I am looking for any information about Benny ( probably Berl ) MERDLER
born about 1873 to Marcus Merdler and Fanny Wasserman.
Benny married July 1913 in New York Clara Segale.
According to Campulung Birth Records Merdler (Moerdler) Marcus aka
Hendzel or Hedzel and Fanny aka Feige Wassermann had also following
children:
Silke born 1870
first name unknown born 1873
Moses born 1874
Melech born 1877
My guess is that Silke, unknown, Moses and Melech are Benny's siblings.
I would like to find out if there are descendants of any of them.
Sincerely,
Hannelore Condiescu
France
STEVENS RIVLIN #general

Jules Feldman
 

I will be grateful for information on and/or contact with a Mr D. J.
STEVENS, or his family, who probably live in the UK.
His mother was Florence Ann nee RIVLIN, known as "Florry", born in 1910 in
Wales and passed away in 1996.
Thanks,
Jules Feldman,
Kibbutz Yizreel

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send contact information privately.
Marriage Between First Cousins #ukraine

David Jacobs <djacobs@...>
 

On April 30, N. Ried asked about marriage between first cousins


My maternal grandparents were first cousins; their mothers were
sisters. They were married in the US shortly after my grandfather
sent enough money for my grandmother to come. I wondered why they
didn't marry in Russia, but the probable explanation is that my
grandfather had to leave Russia in a hurry to avoid serving in the
Russo-Japanese war.
I asked a rabbi whether first cousin marriage was ok under Jewish law.
She said it is ok. Then recently I read a biography of Zeev Jabotinsky.
It said his parents could not marry in Russia because it was illegal
in Czarist Russia. If cousins in Odessa did marry perhaps the rabbi
had no problems with it, and the civil authorities were not informed.
Interestingly, according to Wikipedia, first cousin marriage is
illegal in some states in the US. My grandparents were married in
Philadelphia and first cousin marriage is illegal in Pennsylvania.
In Indiana where I grew up and my grandparents lived first cousin
marriages are void. Maybe the laws in the early 20th century were
different or probably when they arrived in the US around 1905
they never asked.

David Jacobs
Framingham, Massachusetts
Forman and Rader, Cherkassy and Kremenchug

Subject: marriages between first cousins
From: njried@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:24:01 +0200
X-Message-Number: 1

Shalom,

In my tree, I have two examples of first cousins marrying each other,
both in Odessa
First people born respectively in 1856 and 1856, >from a bourgeois,
rather assimilated background, and later two of their children, born
in 1888 and 1892, both marrying two sisters, again their first
cousins.
Thankfully, the third brother, my grandfather, found a bride outside
the family!

Since Odessa was home to a huge community, offering lots of socially
compatible matches, I have been trying to find a reason for these
repeated marriages.
Do you have similar examples? Does anyone know how these marriages
were considered in Orthodox and liberal circles at the time?


I would be very grateful for any example, lead or anecdote.

Thanks a lot in advance,

N. Ried
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