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Re: If not married in NYC, where? #general

Judith Singer
 

Re: If not married in NYC, where?

Briefly, anywhere, especially anywhere in the New York metropolitan
area or even beyond where they had friends or relatives. My parents
were married in Amenia, NY, about 85 miles >from their homes in NYC,
because they went to visit friends who lived in Putnam County and who
decided it was time my father did something with the marriage license
he had obtained. The nearest rabbi the friends could find was in
Amenia. If I had not heard this as part of family lore, it would never
have occurred to me that my parents would be married so far >from home.
At least my father had obtained a NYC marriage license, so I was able
to find a record of that.

You would have to consider not just upstate NY but also portions of
NJ, Connecticut, and even Massachusetts and Pennsylvania if the couple
had friends or relatives out of town.

Furthermore, it could have been a common-law marriage entered into
without benefit of a government-issued marriage license. These were
not legal in NY State after 1938, but the state continued to recognize
common-law marriages made before that date.

Good luck - Judith Singer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: If not married in NYC, where? #general

Judith Singer
 

Re: If not married in NYC, where?

Briefly, anywhere, especially anywhere in the New York metropolitan
area or even beyond where they had friends or relatives. My parents
were married in Amenia, NY, about 85 miles >from their homes in NYC,
because they went to visit friends who lived in Putnam County and who
decided it was time my father did something with the marriage license
he had obtained. The nearest rabbi the friends could find was in
Amenia. If I had not heard this as part of family lore, it would never
have occurred to me that my parents would be married so far >from home.
At least my father had obtained a NYC marriage license, so I was able
to find a record of that.

You would have to consider not just upstate NY but also portions of
NJ, Connecticut, and even Massachusetts and Pennsylvania if the couple
had friends or relatives out of town.

Furthermore, it could have been a common-law marriage entered into
without benefit of a government-issued marriage license. These were
not legal in NY State after 1938, but the state continued to recognize
common-law marriages made before that date.

Good luck - Judith Singer


Re: Do you know the name of this school in New York #general

Alan Steinfeld
 

The 1914 yearbook of Townsend Harris High School
(http://www.classmates.com/yearbooks/Townsend-Harris-High-School/32479)
says that it is "Published by the students of Townsend Harris Hall at the
College of the City of New York."

So, THH may be Townsend Harris Hall

Alan Steinfeld
CCNY '63


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Do you know the name of this school in New York #general

Alan Steinfeld
 

The 1914 yearbook of Townsend Harris High School
(http://www.classmates.com/yearbooks/Townsend-Harris-High-School/32479)
says that it is "Published by the students of Townsend Harris Hall at the
College of the City of New York."

So, THH may be Townsend Harris Hall

Alan Steinfeld
CCNY '63


Looking for Linz DP Camp Info #general

karenla73@...
 

Hi. I am looking for more information and documentation related to the
Linz Displaced Persons camp in Austria, particularly Wegscheid 'Camp
Tyler' DP camp which was under US authority. This is where my dad and
his family resided after the war but I don't have much info on their
situation and he was a child. I have some information >from
http://dpcamps.ort.org/ but wondering if there is a searchable database
or place to get documents related to family members.

Thank you,
Karen Reznik


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Linz DP Camp Info #general

karenla73@...
 

Hi. I am looking for more information and documentation related to the
Linz Displaced Persons camp in Austria, particularly Wegscheid 'Camp
Tyler' DP camp which was under US authority. This is where my dad and
his family resided after the war but I don't have much info on their
situation and he was a child. I have some information >from
http://dpcamps.ort.org/ but wondering if there is a searchable database
or place to get documents related to family members.

Thank you,
Karen Reznik


Reclaim The Records wins third lawsuit; NYC marriage index for 1996-2017 now online, searchable, downloadable, and ***Free*** #general

Asparagirl
 

The non-profit records access activist group Reclaim The Records is
proud to announce that we've just won a settlement of our third
Freedom of Information lawsuit, fighting for the return of important
genealogical record sets to the public. We're announcing the
first-ever public copy of the New York City marriage license index for
1996-2017, about 1.5 million records. It's now available online for
free, searchable and downloadable.

Oh, and we also won the reimbursement of our attorneys fees, because
we like making it clear to government agencies that ignoring the
Freedom of Information law has consequences. :-)

Here's the short version of this story: we successfully fought the New
York City government for nine months to get the first-ever public copy
of the 1996-2017 New York City marriage license index. It's about 1.5
million records, which is about 3.1 million names. And you can now
search this data, or even download it or reuse it, totally free. It's
in the public domain, no copyright. This 1996-2017 data is the
continuation of the 1908-1929 and 1930-1995 data sets we won in two
previous lawsuits >from the NYC Municipal Archives and the NYC Clerk's
Office, respectively.

Here's the longer and more detailed version of this story, with links
to the new data, and public copies of our original FOIL request and
all our legal paperwork (appeal, "Article 78" lawsuit, and stipulation
of settlement):

https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/records-request/11/

As this is a Jewish genealogy e-mail list, it seems appropriate to
mention that a big percentage of this new data is potentially relevant
to our research. According to that venerable source of knowledge
Wikipedia, as of 2012 there were slightly over one million Jews living
within New York City and over two million in the greater New York
metro area, the second largest Jewish community worldwide after Tel
Aviv.

But even if you don't have any NYC roots or relatives, it's awfully
nice to know that genealogists really can successfully fight back
against the wrongful withholding of public records by government
agencies. Reclaim The Records likes to prove that you really can fight
city hall, and win. And we're expanding our work into more states, and
will be tackling our first big federal FOIA requests (and possibly
FOIA lawsuits) later this year, for data sets that have tens of
millions of records.

Reclaim The Records will have even more exciting news to announce in
the very near future: two more big records wins to announce >from two
different states (millions of records in each of them!), and one new
Freedom of Information lawsuit against a different government agency
that's being filed later this month. Maybe even two lawsuits, we'll
see. :-)

For more information on Reclaim The Records, check out our website:
https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/

- Brooke Schreier Ganz
Mill Valley, California (but still a New Yorker at heart)
President and Founder of Reclaim The Records

PS - And on a personal note, I got married in NYC in 2003, so it was
pretty cool to finally reclaim my own record in this data!


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Reclaim The Records wins third lawsuit; NYC marriage index for 1996-2017 now online, searchable, downloadable, and ***Free*** #general

Asparagirl
 

The non-profit records access activist group Reclaim The Records is
proud to announce that we've just won a settlement of our third
Freedom of Information lawsuit, fighting for the return of important
genealogical record sets to the public. We're announcing the
first-ever public copy of the New York City marriage license index for
1996-2017, about 1.5 million records. It's now available online for
free, searchable and downloadable.

Oh, and we also won the reimbursement of our attorneys fees, because
we like making it clear to government agencies that ignoring the
Freedom of Information law has consequences. :-)

Here's the short version of this story: we successfully fought the New
York City government for nine months to get the first-ever public copy
of the 1996-2017 New York City marriage license index. It's about 1.5
million records, which is about 3.1 million names. And you can now
search this data, or even download it or reuse it, totally free. It's
in the public domain, no copyright. This 1996-2017 data is the
continuation of the 1908-1929 and 1930-1995 data sets we won in two
previous lawsuits >from the NYC Municipal Archives and the NYC Clerk's
Office, respectively.

Here's the longer and more detailed version of this story, with links
to the new data, and public copies of our original FOIL request and
all our legal paperwork (appeal, "Article 78" lawsuit, and stipulation
of settlement):

https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/records-request/11/

As this is a Jewish genealogy e-mail list, it seems appropriate to
mention that a big percentage of this new data is potentially relevant
to our research. According to that venerable source of knowledge
Wikipedia, as of 2012 there were slightly over one million Jews living
within New York City and over two million in the greater New York
metro area, the second largest Jewish community worldwide after Tel
Aviv.

But even if you don't have any NYC roots or relatives, it's awfully
nice to know that genealogists really can successfully fight back
against the wrongful withholding of public records by government
agencies. Reclaim The Records likes to prove that you really can fight
city hall, and win. And we're expanding our work into more states, and
will be tackling our first big federal FOIA requests (and possibly
FOIA lawsuits) later this year, for data sets that have tens of
millions of records.

Reclaim The Records will have even more exciting news to announce in
the very near future: two more big records wins to announce >from two
different states (millions of records in each of them!), and one new
Freedom of Information lawsuit against a different government agency
that's being filed later this month. Maybe even two lawsuits, we'll
see. :-)

For more information on Reclaim The Records, check out our website:
https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/

- Brooke Schreier Ganz
Mill Valley, California (but still a New Yorker at heart)
President and Founder of Reclaim The Records

PS - And on a personal note, I got married in NYC in 2003, so it was
pretty cool to finally reclaim my own record in this data!


The June issue of the "Galitzianer" #general

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Gesher Galicia announces the release of the June 2018
issue of the "Galitzianer," the organization's quarterly research
journal.

This month, we feature a range of topics: >from a description of
Galician records to unique personal stories. Discover compelling
narratives accompanied by telling images, ranging >from old postcards
and family pictures, to historical maps and more.

Among major themes, we highlight Jewish experiences
during World War I, which coincides with the centennial of the ending
of the Great War. Also, don't miss "Faces of Galicia" and program
updates on Jewish genealogy meetings (the AGAD-Gesher Galicia
Symposium and the 38th IAJGS Conference) taking place this summer.

The featured topics in this month's issue are:

-- >from the Editor's Desk: Galician Jews in WWI
-- Research Corner: WWI records by Tony Kahane
-- Family Evidence Books (Lemberg) by Joshua Grayson
-- Jacob Sicherman's War by Carol Sicherman
-- One Family, Many Armies by Ruth Kurschner
-- Map Corner: One town's story in WWI by Jay Osborn
-- Interview with Sam Nager: Reminiscing about Dynow
-- A Child Remembers by Dasia Black
-- Cherished Memories by Nurit Caspi-Sheps

We hope you will enjoy the new issue of the journal.

The "Galitzianer" is a membership benefit of Gesher Galicia, though
everyone is invited to submit articles on Galicia-related
themes. For more details, please go to
https://www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/#submissions

Andrew Zalewski
Editor, the Galitzianer
The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The June issue of the "Galitzianer" #general

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Gesher Galicia announces the release of the June 2018
issue of the "Galitzianer," the organization's quarterly research
journal.

This month, we feature a range of topics: >from a description of
Galician records to unique personal stories. Discover compelling
narratives accompanied by telling images, ranging >from old postcards
and family pictures, to historical maps and more.

Among major themes, we highlight Jewish experiences
during World War I, which coincides with the centennial of the ending
of the Great War. Also, don't miss "Faces of Galicia" and program
updates on Jewish genealogy meetings (the AGAD-Gesher Galicia
Symposium and the 38th IAJGS Conference) taking place this summer.

The featured topics in this month's issue are:

-- >from the Editor's Desk: Galician Jews in WWI
-- Research Corner: WWI records by Tony Kahane
-- Family Evidence Books (Lemberg) by Joshua Grayson
-- Jacob Sicherman's War by Carol Sicherman
-- One Family, Many Armies by Ruth Kurschner
-- Map Corner: One town's story in WWI by Jay Osborn
-- Interview with Sam Nager: Reminiscing about Dynow
-- A Child Remembers by Dasia Black
-- Cherished Memories by Nurit Caspi-Sheps

We hope you will enjoy the new issue of the journal.

The "Galitzianer" is a membership benefit of Gesher Galicia, though
everyone is invited to submit articles on Galicia-related
themes. For more details, please go to
https://www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/#submissions

Andrew Zalewski
Editor, the Galitzianer
The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia

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Re: Seeking grave of Lisette GAERTNER (geb. Cahn) near Kassel #germany

Gerhard Buck <gbuckidstein22@...>
 

A hidden place for finding information about Jewish cemeteries are the
Gatermann films. Those concerning Hessen were published on the website
of the Hessisches Hauptstaatsarchiv Wiesbaden
https://arcinsys.hessen.de. There you find the inscriptions of the
cemetery in Wolfhagen west of Kassel: https://tinyurl.com/ybvxf2db
Just in time in July 1938, they were copied by a Rabbi. There I could
not discover a person called Lisette Gaertner geb. Cahn.

Gerhard Buck, Idstein, Germany buckidstein@...


German SIG #Germany Re: Seeking grave of Lisette GAERTNER (geb. Cahn) near Kassel #germany

Gerhard Buck <gbuckidstein22@...>
 

A hidden place for finding information about Jewish cemeteries are the
Gatermann films. Those concerning Hessen were published on the website
of the Hessisches Hauptstaatsarchiv Wiesbaden
https://arcinsys.hessen.de. There you find the inscriptions of the
cemetery in Wolfhagen west of Kassel: https://tinyurl.com/ybvxf2db
Just in time in July 1938, they were copied by a Rabbi. There I could
not discover a person called Lisette Gaertner geb. Cahn.

Gerhard Buck, Idstein, Germany buckidstein@...


The June issue of the "Galitzianer" #ukraine

Gesher Galicia Info
 

Gesher Galicia announces the release of the June 2018
issue of the "Galitzianer," the organization's quarterly research
journal.

This month, we feature a range of topics: >from a description of
Galician records to unique personal stories. Discover compelling
narratives accompanied by telling images, ranging >from old postcards
and family pictures, to historical maps and more.

Among major themes, we highlight Jewish experiences
during World War I, which coincides with the centennial of the ending
of the Great War. Also, don't miss "Faces of Galicia" and program
updates on Jewish genealogy meetings (the AGAD-Gesher Galicia
Symposium and the 38th IAJGS Conference) taking place this summer.

The featured topics in this month's issue are:

-- >from the Editor's Desk: Galician Jews in WWI
-- Research Corner: WWI records by Tony Kahane
-- Family Evidence Books (Lemberg) by Joshua Grayson
-- Jacob Sicherman's War by Carol Sicherman
-- One Family, Many Armies by Ruth Kurschner
-- Map Corner: One town's story in WWI by Jay Osborn
-- Interview with Sam Nager: Reminiscing about Dynow
-- A Child Remembers by Dasia Black
-- Cherished Memories by Nurit Caspi-Sheps

We hope you will enjoy the new issue of the journal.

The "Galitzianer" is a membership benefit of Gesher Galicia, though
everyone is invited to submit articles on Galicia-related
themes. For more details, please go to
https://www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/#submissions.


Andrew Zalewski
Editor, the Galitzianer
The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine The June issue of the "Galitzianer" #ukraine

Gesher Galicia Info
 

Gesher Galicia announces the release of the June 2018
issue of the "Galitzianer," the organization's quarterly research
journal.

This month, we feature a range of topics: >from a description of
Galician records to unique personal stories. Discover compelling
narratives accompanied by telling images, ranging >from old postcards
and family pictures, to historical maps and more.

Among major themes, we highlight Jewish experiences
during World War I, which coincides with the centennial of the ending
of the Great War. Also, don't miss "Faces of Galicia" and program
updates on Jewish genealogy meetings (the AGAD-Gesher Galicia
Symposium and the 38th IAJGS Conference) taking place this summer.

The featured topics in this month's issue are:

-- >from the Editor's Desk: Galician Jews in WWI
-- Research Corner: WWI records by Tony Kahane
-- Family Evidence Books (Lemberg) by Joshua Grayson
-- Jacob Sicherman's War by Carol Sicherman
-- One Family, Many Armies by Ruth Kurschner
-- Map Corner: One town's story in WWI by Jay Osborn
-- Interview with Sam Nager: Reminiscing about Dynow
-- A Child Remembers by Dasia Black
-- Cherished Memories by Nurit Caspi-Sheps

We hope you will enjoy the new issue of the journal.

The "Galitzianer" is a membership benefit of Gesher Galicia, though
everyone is invited to submit articles on Galicia-related
themes. For more details, please go to
https://www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/#submissions.


Andrew Zalewski
Editor, the Galitzianer
The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia


New Vilnius German Era Passports File Received and Added to IP Site #lithuania

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

LitvakSIG has begun translating a new collection of Passport Applications
from the era of the German occupation of Vilnius during World War I. These
German Passport Applications are in the LVIA because they are >from the
period of World War I.

The first file of Vilnius German Passport Applications has been received and
added to the Vilnius Internal Passport site of LitvakSIG.

The new files contain registration #s GA1 - GA105 and consists of 174
records.

Even though these applications were filed in Vilnius, there are many other
locations mentioned: Anyksciai, Baranovichi, Butrimonys, Byten, Ciobiskis,
Daugavpils, Dieveniskes, Dokshytsy, Doginovo, Eisiskes, Kamajai,
Kapciamiestis, Kedainiai, Kobylnik, Krasnopolis, Lida, Liepaja, Minsk,
Moletai, Musninkai, Nemunaitis, Novogrudok, Obeliai, Paberze, Panosiskes,
Postavai, Raguva, Riga, Ros. Rostov, St Petersburg, Sakolki, Salakas,
Seredzius, Shchuchin, Sirvintos, Smolensk, Sochaczew, Stojatiskiai,
Suvainiskis, Svencionys, USA, Ushachi, Uzpaliai, Valkininkai, Vidzai,
Viesintos, Volkovysk, Voronovo, Worklany.

The translations were paid by your contributions to LitvakSIG for Internal
Passports. Additional funds are needed to continue and complete translation
of these German Passports Your generosity is appreciated.

If you are not yet a qualifying contributor to the Vilnius Internal /
Foreign / German Passport project, you may make your $100 contribution on
the LitvakSIG website at
https://www.litvaksig.org/membership-and-contributions/join-and-contribute/

Scroll down and select Special Project, then choose Internal Passports from
the drop-down list.

These passports will become freely searchable in the LitvakSIG All Lithuania
Database (ALD) and the JewishGen Lithuania Database in about 18
months.

Happy hunting,

Eden Joachim
Coordinator, IP / Foreign / German Passports Project


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania New Vilnius German Era Passports File Received and Added to IP Site #lithuania

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

LitvakSIG has begun translating a new collection of Passport Applications
from the era of the German occupation of Vilnius during World War I. These
German Passport Applications are in the LVIA because they are >from the
period of World War I.

The first file of Vilnius German Passport Applications has been received and
added to the Vilnius Internal Passport site of LitvakSIG.

The new files contain registration #s GA1 - GA105 and consists of 174
records.

Even though these applications were filed in Vilnius, there are many other
locations mentioned: Anyksciai, Baranovichi, Butrimonys, Byten, Ciobiskis,
Daugavpils, Dieveniskes, Dokshytsy, Doginovo, Eisiskes, Kamajai,
Kapciamiestis, Kedainiai, Kobylnik, Krasnopolis, Lida, Liepaja, Minsk,
Moletai, Musninkai, Nemunaitis, Novogrudok, Obeliai, Paberze, Panosiskes,
Postavai, Raguva, Riga, Ros. Rostov, St Petersburg, Sakolki, Salakas,
Seredzius, Shchuchin, Sirvintos, Smolensk, Sochaczew, Stojatiskiai,
Suvainiskis, Svencionys, USA, Ushachi, Uzpaliai, Valkininkai, Vidzai,
Viesintos, Volkovysk, Voronovo, Worklany.

The translations were paid by your contributions to LitvakSIG for Internal
Passports. Additional funds are needed to continue and complete translation
of these German Passports Your generosity is appreciated.

If you are not yet a qualifying contributor to the Vilnius Internal /
Foreign / German Passport project, you may make your $100 contribution on
the LitvakSIG website at
https://www.litvaksig.org/membership-and-contributions/join-and-contribute/

Scroll down and select Special Project, then choose Internal Passports from
the drop-down list.

These passports will become freely searchable in the LitvakSIG All Lithuania
Database (ALD) and the JewishGen Lithuania Database in about 18
months.

Happy hunting,

Eden Joachim
Coordinator, IP / Foreign / German Passports Project


Re: frenchsig digest: June 11, 2018 #france

mpw@...
 

Hello Mr. Berkeley,

That was a moving story. I did try to find the man called André Buchet.

Just maybe there was a spelling mistake and is the name a bit different?

There is a Armand Buchet, born 1910 and there is a André Bouchet, born 1911.

https://www.myheritage.nl/names/armand_buchet 1910

https://www.geneanet.org/archives/actes/search.php?name=3Dbouchet&lang=3Dfr=
&tri=3Ddate&order=3Ddesc&p=3D4 1911

Just in case it helps,

Best wishes,

Martine Wolff, Amsterdam






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1. French POW in Budapest 1944-5 (re ViewMate posting 67089)

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Subject: French POW in Budapest 1944-5 (re ViewMate posting 67089)
From: gluckpast@...
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 09:15:01 +0100
X-Message-Number: 1

In 1944, two of my aunts, Lilly and Blimcsu Gluck >from Chust in
Czechoslovakia, were trapped in Budapest, living in a 'yellow-star
house' at Ar=C3=A9na =C3=BAtca 17 in Pest.

Downstairs in the apartment block lived at least two, and possibly up
to four, young Frenchmen. They were among at least four thousand
French prisoners-of-war, both civilians and military, captured after
the Fall of France, who had escaped to Hungary >from camps in Germany,
with many of them making for Budapest. They were hiding or being
hidden in houses across the city. Some will have joined up with the
underground resistance groups, who were now producing tens of
thousands of forged documents. These included, among others, birth
certificates, marriage certificates, identity cards, Police
Residential Cards and later Protection Documents >from the embassies of
neutral countries. Many Jews managed to survive thanks to these
documents, especially in Budapest.

One of the Frenchmen was named Andre Buchet and, unlike his
compatriots, was able to speak a few words of Hungarian. He was aged
34, >from Paris and showed them a photograph of his wife. He also had
his own camera and took several pictures of Lilly and Blimcsu.

Sometime around the third week of October 1944, they were at home in
the apartment block when gendarmes and Arrow Cross militia arrived,
armed with machine guns and ordered everyone to leave the building.
They were allowed to take some clothes, food and a blanket, but
everything of value was to be left behind. They were told that if any
valuables were found on them, they=E2=80=99d be shot.

It was raining and cold as they were marched to the Great Synagogue in
Doh=C3=A1ny Street, the largest in Europe.The streets were lined with
crowds of people, mainly women, who clapped as they went past,
shouting abuse and rejoicing in their fate.

Later, as the Russian Army advanced, they were marched down to the
river to be loaded on an open barge on which they stood, packed with a
great many other women and taken 24 kms up river to a camp, south of
the village of Hor=C3=A1ny on Szentendre Island. The vessel was dangerously
overloaded and several of the women fell in the river and were
drowned.

The camp consisted of wooden barrack blocks and, because it was
designed for children, the beds were short and they slept on straw
bedding. Between November 18th and 21st, there were approximately 500
in the camp, but by the 29th, this had grown to 1200. Each day, they
were woken before dawn, marched in the dark for about an hour to dig
ditches up to 1.8 metres deep as anti-tank defences.

from time to time, they were forced to stand in line to be given
filthy water. Many girls fainted or collapsed and the Hungarian Arrow
Cross guards on horseback would shoot them. One day, while they were
marching, they came across a group of men and recognised one of them
as having come >from their home town, who told them of the deportations
and said there was no-one left there.

As was the practice in all the camps, there were constant roll-calls
and, one morning Lilly and Blimscu heard their names called out,
together with the Hungarian word spanyol, meaning Spanish or Spaniard.
Much to their astonishment, they were handed all-important citizenship
documents, showing that they were now under the protection of a
neutral country.

There was only one person who could possibly have obtained these on
their behalf and that was their French friend Andre Buchet. They may
have been genuine so-called =E2=80=98letters of protection=E2=80=99, issued=
by =C3=81ngel
Sanz Briz, the Charg=C3=A9 d=E2=80=99Affaires of the Spanish Legation in Bu=
dapest.
Alternatively, they could quite possibly have been forgeries, produced
by the underground movement with whom Andre Buchet was working or from
another source. Whichever is correct, in all probability, they will
have saved their lives.

I am nearing completion of a detailed, illustrated family history and
am making one last effort to discover more about this Frenchman who
saved my two aunts. Sadly, Aunt Lilly died in January, aged 94 and I
owe it to her memory to make this final attempt. A photograph of Andre
Buchet with my Aunt Blimcsu has been posted on ViewMate (number
67089).

John Berkeley (previously Berkovic)
Warwick, UK



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French SIG #France Re: frenchsig digest: June 11, 2018 #france

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Hello Mr. Berkeley,

That was a moving story. I did try to find the man called André Buchet.

Just maybe there was a spelling mistake and is the name a bit different?

There is a Armand Buchet, born 1910 and there is a André Bouchet, born 1911.

https://www.myheritage.nl/names/armand_buchet 1910

https://www.geneanet.org/archives/actes/search.php?name=3Dbouchet&lang=3Dfr=
&tri=3Ddate&order=3Ddesc&p=3D4 1911

Just in case it helps,

Best wishes,

Martine Wolff, Amsterdam






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Subject: French POW in Budapest 1944-5 (re ViewMate posting 67089)
From: gluckpast@...
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 09:15:01 +0100
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In 1944, two of my aunts, Lilly and Blimcsu Gluck >from Chust in
Czechoslovakia, were trapped in Budapest, living in a 'yellow-star
house' at Ar=C3=A9na =C3=BAtca 17 in Pest.

Downstairs in the apartment block lived at least two, and possibly up
to four, young Frenchmen. They were among at least four thousand
French prisoners-of-war, both civilians and military, captured after
the Fall of France, who had escaped to Hungary >from camps in Germany,
with many of them making for Budapest. They were hiding or being
hidden in houses across the city. Some will have joined up with the
underground resistance groups, who were now producing tens of
thousands of forged documents. These included, among others, birth
certificates, marriage certificates, identity cards, Police
Residential Cards and later Protection Documents >from the embassies of
neutral countries. Many Jews managed to survive thanks to these
documents, especially in Budapest.

One of the Frenchmen was named Andre Buchet and, unlike his
compatriots, was able to speak a few words of Hungarian. He was aged
34, >from Paris and showed them a photograph of his wife. He also had
his own camera and took several pictures of Lilly and Blimcsu.

Sometime around the third week of October 1944, they were at home in
the apartment block when gendarmes and Arrow Cross militia arrived,
armed with machine guns and ordered everyone to leave the building.
They were allowed to take some clothes, food and a blanket, but
everything of value was to be left behind. They were told that if any
valuables were found on them, they=E2=80=99d be shot.

It was raining and cold as they were marched to the Great Synagogue in
Doh=C3=A1ny Street, the largest in Europe.The streets were lined with
crowds of people, mainly women, who clapped as they went past,
shouting abuse and rejoicing in their fate.

Later, as the Russian Army advanced, they were marched down to the
river to be loaded on an open barge on which they stood, packed with a
great many other women and taken 24 kms up river to a camp, south of
the village of Hor=C3=A1ny on Szentendre Island. The vessel was dangerously
overloaded and several of the women fell in the river and were
drowned.

The camp consisted of wooden barrack blocks and, because it was
designed for children, the beds were short and they slept on straw
bedding. Between November 18th and 21st, there were approximately 500
in the camp, but by the 29th, this had grown to 1200. Each day, they
were woken before dawn, marched in the dark for about an hour to dig
ditches up to 1.8 metres deep as anti-tank defences.

from time to time, they were forced to stand in line to be given
filthy water. Many girls fainted or collapsed and the Hungarian Arrow
Cross guards on horseback would shoot them. One day, while they were
marching, they came across a group of men and recognised one of them
as having come >from their home town, who told them of the deportations
and said there was no-one left there.

As was the practice in all the camps, there were constant roll-calls
and, one morning Lilly and Blimscu heard their names called out,
together with the Hungarian word spanyol, meaning Spanish or Spaniard.
Much to their astonishment, they were handed all-important citizenship
documents, showing that they were now under the protection of a
neutral country.

There was only one person who could possibly have obtained these on
their behalf and that was their French friend Andre Buchet. They may
have been genuine so-called =E2=80=98letters of protection=E2=80=99, issued=
by =C3=81ngel
Sanz Briz, the Charg=C3=A9 d=E2=80=99Affaires of the Spanish Legation in Bu=
dapest.
Alternatively, they could quite possibly have been forgeries, produced
by the underground movement with whom Andre Buchet was working or from
another source. Whichever is correct, in all probability, they will
have saved their lives.

I am nearing completion of a detailed, illustrated family history and
am making one last effort to discover more about this Frenchman who
saved my two aunts. Sadly, Aunt Lilly died in January, aged 94 and I
owe it to her memory to make this final attempt. A photograph of Andre
Buchet with my Aunt Blimcsu has been posted on ViewMate (number
67089).

John Berkeley (previously Berkovic)
Warwick, UK



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Re: Do you know the name of this school in New York #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

I wonder if it is an abbreviation for Townsend Harris High (School).

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ

On Jun 11, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Carol Rombro Rider cromrider@... wrote:

I have a picture of the class of T.H.H. school dated February 1919.
I am assuming this school was in New York City, but certainly if not in
Manhattan then somewhere nearby.

Does anyone know what the T.H.H. stands for?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Do you know the name of this school in New York #general

Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

I wonder if it is an abbreviation for Townsend Harris High (School).

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ

On Jun 11, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Carol Rombro Rider cromrider@... wrote:

I have a picture of the class of T.H.H. school dated February 1919.
I am assuming this school was in New York City, but certainly if not in
Manhattan then somewhere nearby.

Does anyone know what the T.H.H. stands for?