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Re: Naming Pattern among Ashkenazic Jews #general

Judith Singer
 

I have never heard of a tradition that the mother could choose the
name of the first child and the father the second, or vice versa.
Among Eastern European Jews, most important was the custom that a
child not be named after a living relative - though two cousins might
both be named after the same grandfather, so duplication existed.
Generally, the first son was named after the paternal grandfather (if
he had died). In some families, the sons tended to be named after the
deceased relatives of the father and the girls after the deceased
relatives of the mother, in the order of grandparents first,
particularly revered ancestors next, then uncles and aunts of the
parents. In other families, all the children were named after the
deceased relatives of the father, leading to very clear naming
patterns detectable in successive generations. My experience is mainly
with Litvaks and the customs among Ukrainian or Romanian Jews or among
Chasidim might have been somewhat different.

JewishGen has some information about this at
https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/GivenNames/slide7.html and a few
subsequent slides. Both you and JewishGen refer to naming traditions
among "Ashkenazic Jews", but the Ashkenazim include German Jews, who
by the 19th century did not adhere strongly to naming traditions, and
a variety of Eastern and Central European Jews. Customs differed
somewhat >from region to region.

Judith Singer


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming Pattern among Ashkenazic Jews #general

Judith Singer
 

I have never heard of a tradition that the mother could choose the
name of the first child and the father the second, or vice versa.
Among Eastern European Jews, most important was the custom that a
child not be named after a living relative - though two cousins might
both be named after the same grandfather, so duplication existed.
Generally, the first son was named after the paternal grandfather (if
he had died). In some families, the sons tended to be named after the
deceased relatives of the father and the girls after the deceased
relatives of the mother, in the order of grandparents first,
particularly revered ancestors next, then uncles and aunts of the
parents. In other families, all the children were named after the
deceased relatives of the father, leading to very clear naming
patterns detectable in successive generations. My experience is mainly
with Litvaks and the customs among Ukrainian or Romanian Jews or among
Chasidim might have been somewhat different.

JewishGen has some information about this at
https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/GivenNames/slide7.html and a few
subsequent slides. Both you and JewishGen refer to naming traditions
among "Ashkenazic Jews", but the Ashkenazim include German Jews, who
by the 19th century did not adhere strongly to naming traditions, and
a variety of Eastern and Central European Jews. Customs differed
somewhat >from region to region.

Judith Singer


IAJGS Records Access Alert Postings November 2018 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

As mentioned previously, every month I post a listing of the IAJGS Records
Access Alert topics >from the previous month for you to see the variety of
issues.some were posted on this discussion group as they were final edicts,
but advocacy, and pending legislation and regulations- were not posted to
the discussion group-all postings are included below. Any postings that had
a time limit for access, such as free access that has expired are not
included below.

+ (Canada) Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act
(PIPEDA) Rules Effective November 1, 2018

+ (Canada) Several Provincial Archives to Relocate/Close

+ (Canada) Statistics Canada Asked TransUnion Credit Bureau to Provide
Financial Transaction and Credit Histories Without Prior Consent

+ (Canada) Statistics Canada Transfers 1926 Prairie Census to Library and
Archives Canada- Online Database Expected March 2019

+ (Canada) Canadian Research knowledge Network Announced as of January 1,
2019 Canadian On line Free

+ (Europe) ITS Adds 900, 000 Post-War Records Making Over 2 Million
Records Available Online

+ (European Union) More on Blockchain Technology

+ European Union) EU Parliament and EU Council Pass Regulation 2018/1725 On
Processing Personal Data

+ (European Union) European Data Protection Board Issues Draft Guidelines
on Extra-Territorial Application of GDPR

+ (European Union) Google Charged by Seven Countries For Allegedly Tracking
Movements of Users In Violation of GDPR

+ 60 Minutes Episode on European Union's GDPR and Lack of Data Protection
in the United States

+ (European Union) Six-Months Post Start of GDPR Report Card; CNIL Ruling
Affects Adtech

+ (European Union ) Various Goings On in the European Union

+ (European Union-Romania) Romanian Data Protection Agency Used GDPR to
Reveal Sources on Alleged EU Fund Fraud Against Romania Politician

+ (France) Facebook to Give Special Access to French Regulators

+ (Germany) Response >from Hamburg Minister of Culture and Media About
Staatsarchiv Destruction of One Million Death Records

+ (Malta) Justice Minister Introduces Right to be Forgotten by Ministerial
Decree

+ Reclaim The Records Files FOIA Lawsuit--US Department of Veterans Affairs

+ Reclaim the Records Gets New York State Marriage Index 1881--1965 and
Files Another Law Suit

+ (Scotland) Scottish Indexes Criminal Database

+ (UK) General Register Office (GRO) Purportedly Missing Thousands of
Birth Records

+ (US) Harvard Law School Opens Up its Federal and State Court Cases Online
for Free

+ (US) Senate Bill S2374, Improper Payments Elimination and Recovery
Amended Passed by Committee to Full Senate

+ (US) Senator Wyden Introduces Consumer Privacy Act

+ (US) Supreme Court Declines to Review Decision That Approved Obama-era
Net Neutrality Rules

+ (US) Supreme Court Declines Trump Administration Request to Delay Trial on
2020 US Census and Citizenship Question

+ (US) USCIS Proposed Rule on Genealogy Index Search Request and
Genealogy Records Request

+ (US) Trump Administration Suggested Sharing Census Responses with Law
Enforcement, Court Documents Show

+ (US-California) Digital Archive of California and Calisphere

+ (US-Maine) First State To Use Ranked- Choice Voting in a General Election

+ (US-NH) New Hampshire Approves Constitutional Amendment on Right to
Privacy

IAJGS opened its Records Access Alerts to anyone who is interested. This
was announced previously. We now have subscribers >from many genealogical
organizations not previously able to subscribe. To be on top of what is
happening I encourage you to register for the Records Access Alerts to
receive the information in a timely manner. If you are interested in any of
the above items, please register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and look
at them in the archives. To register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert go
to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and
follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
genealogical organization you belong to-a society, SIG or a subscriber of
JewishGen, Avotaynu Online, Legal Genealogist etc. You will receive an
email response that you have to reply to, or the subscription will not be
finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the
archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/

The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending
on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and
other times there may be several in one day.

These are listed alphabetically not chronologically. Each month the locales
covered differ.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IAJGS Records Access Alert Postings November 2018 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

As mentioned previously, every month I post a listing of the IAJGS Records
Access Alert topics >from the previous month for you to see the variety of
issues.some were posted on this discussion group as they were final edicts,
but advocacy, and pending legislation and regulations- were not posted to
the discussion group-all postings are included below. Any postings that had
a time limit for access, such as free access that has expired are not
included below.

+ (Canada) Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act
(PIPEDA) Rules Effective November 1, 2018

+ (Canada) Several Provincial Archives to Relocate/Close

+ (Canada) Statistics Canada Asked TransUnion Credit Bureau to Provide
Financial Transaction and Credit Histories Without Prior Consent

+ (Canada) Statistics Canada Transfers 1926 Prairie Census to Library and
Archives Canada- Online Database Expected March 2019

+ (Canada) Canadian Research knowledge Network Announced as of January 1,
2019 Canadian On line Free

+ (Europe) ITS Adds 900, 000 Post-War Records Making Over 2 Million
Records Available Online

+ (European Union) More on Blockchain Technology

+ European Union) EU Parliament and EU Council Pass Regulation 2018/1725 On
Processing Personal Data

+ (European Union) European Data Protection Board Issues Draft Guidelines
on Extra-Territorial Application of GDPR

+ (European Union) Google Charged by Seven Countries For Allegedly Tracking
Movements of Users In Violation of GDPR

+ 60 Minutes Episode on European Union's GDPR and Lack of Data Protection
in the United States

+ (European Union) Six-Months Post Start of GDPR Report Card; CNIL Ruling
Affects Adtech

+ (European Union ) Various Goings On in the European Union

+ (European Union-Romania) Romanian Data Protection Agency Used GDPR to
Reveal Sources on Alleged EU Fund Fraud Against Romania Politician

+ (France) Facebook to Give Special Access to French Regulators

+ (Germany) Response >from Hamburg Minister of Culture and Media About
Staatsarchiv Destruction of One Million Death Records

+ (Malta) Justice Minister Introduces Right to be Forgotten by Ministerial
Decree

+ Reclaim The Records Files FOIA Lawsuit--US Department of Veterans Affairs

+ Reclaim the Records Gets New York State Marriage Index 1881--1965 and
Files Another Law Suit

+ (Scotland) Scottish Indexes Criminal Database

+ (UK) General Register Office (GRO) Purportedly Missing Thousands of
Birth Records

+ (US) Harvard Law School Opens Up its Federal and State Court Cases Online
for Free

+ (US) Senate Bill S2374, Improper Payments Elimination and Recovery
Amended Passed by Committee to Full Senate

+ (US) Senator Wyden Introduces Consumer Privacy Act

+ (US) Supreme Court Declines to Review Decision That Approved Obama-era
Net Neutrality Rules

+ (US) Supreme Court Declines Trump Administration Request to Delay Trial on
2020 US Census and Citizenship Question

+ (US) USCIS Proposed Rule on Genealogy Index Search Request and
Genealogy Records Request

+ (US) Trump Administration Suggested Sharing Census Responses with Law
Enforcement, Court Documents Show

+ (US-California) Digital Archive of California and Calisphere

+ (US-Maine) First State To Use Ranked- Choice Voting in a General Election

+ (US-NH) New Hampshire Approves Constitutional Amendment on Right to
Privacy

IAJGS opened its Records Access Alerts to anyone who is interested. This
was announced previously. We now have subscribers >from many genealogical
organizations not previously able to subscribe. To be on top of what is
happening I encourage you to register for the Records Access Alerts to
receive the information in a timely manner. If you are interested in any of
the above items, please register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and look
at them in the archives. To register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert go
to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and
follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which
genealogical organization you belong to-a society, SIG or a subscriber of
JewishGen, Avotaynu Online, Legal Genealogist etc. You will receive an
email response that you have to reply to, or the subscription will not be
finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the
archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/

The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending
on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and
other times there may be several in one day.

These are listed alphabetically not chronologically. Each month the locales
covered differ.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


New data available from the Vilnius household registers project #general

Russ Maurer
 

LitvakSIG is very pleased to announce that batch 3 of the Vilnius
household register project, 5000 lines, is now available to qualified
donors. To help you decide if this batch is relevant to you,
we provide a full surname-frequency list of over 2000 surnames on the
VHR home page,
https://www.litvaksig.org/research/special-projects/vilnius-household-registers
(short URL: https://tinyurl.com/yab5ojnv).

During the period between WWI and WWII, Vilnius and adjoining
areas (that today are within eastern Lithuania and western Belarus)
were under Polish control. In Vilnius, the Poland imposed its system
of household registration for population registration and mobility
control >from 1919 to 1940. More than 13,000 household registers
have survived. They contain a treasure trove of information about
people who lived in or visited Vilnius. Typical records may include
the first and last name, maiden name, names of the parents including
the mother's maiden name, marital status, nationality and religion,
place and date of birth (or age), place of previous residence, date of
arrival to the lodgings, date of leaving the lodgings and next destination.
We estimate that the collection, in all, contains several million entries,
perhaps a third of them for Jews.

Of particular note, because of the shifting national boundaries, the
Vilnius household registers (VHR) will be of interest to a wider
audience than one might imagine. There was no border between
Vilnius and the rest of interwar Poland. People flowed freely between
Vilnius and such other cities as Warsaw, Bialystok, Lodz, Lida, Disna,
Oshmiany, Minsk, and others. If your ancestors were anywhere in that
area between the wars, they could have stopped in Vilnius and made
an appearance in a household register.

Because this is a long-term project, we are releasing data 5,000 lines
at a time. The first batch was released during the IAJGS conference
in Warsaw in August. That batch is available free of charge, thanks
to a Rabbi Malcolm Stern grant awarded to the project. Batch 2 was
released a month ago. The data of each batch will be added to the
All-Lithuania database about 18 months after release, where it will
be searchable free of charge.

All necessary information about these data releases, including how to
become a qualified donor, can be found on our VHR home page
linked above. Any questions should be directed to me at
vhrproject@...

Russ Maurer
VHR project coordinator


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New data available from the Vilnius household registers project #general

Russ Maurer
 

LitvakSIG is very pleased to announce that batch 3 of the Vilnius
household register project, 5000 lines, is now available to qualified
donors. To help you decide if this batch is relevant to you,
we provide a full surname-frequency list of over 2000 surnames on the
VHR home page,
https://www.litvaksig.org/research/special-projects/vilnius-household-registers
(short URL: https://tinyurl.com/yab5ojnv).

During the period between WWI and WWII, Vilnius and adjoining
areas (that today are within eastern Lithuania and western Belarus)
were under Polish control. In Vilnius, the Poland imposed its system
of household registration for population registration and mobility
control >from 1919 to 1940. More than 13,000 household registers
have survived. They contain a treasure trove of information about
people who lived in or visited Vilnius. Typical records may include
the first and last name, maiden name, names of the parents including
the mother's maiden name, marital status, nationality and religion,
place and date of birth (or age), place of previous residence, date of
arrival to the lodgings, date of leaving the lodgings and next destination.
We estimate that the collection, in all, contains several million entries,
perhaps a third of them for Jews.

Of particular note, because of the shifting national boundaries, the
Vilnius household registers (VHR) will be of interest to a wider
audience than one might imagine. There was no border between
Vilnius and the rest of interwar Poland. People flowed freely between
Vilnius and such other cities as Warsaw, Bialystok, Lodz, Lida, Disna,
Oshmiany, Minsk, and others. If your ancestors were anywhere in that
area between the wars, they could have stopped in Vilnius and made
an appearance in a household register.

Because this is a long-term project, we are releasing data 5,000 lines
at a time. The first batch was released during the IAJGS conference
in Warsaw in August. That batch is available free of charge, thanks
to a Rabbi Malcolm Stern grant awarded to the project. Batch 2 was
released a month ago. The data of each batch will be added to the
All-Lithuania database about 18 months after release, where it will
be searchable free of charge.

All necessary information about these data releases, including how to
become a qualified donor, can be found on our VHR home page
linked above. Any questions should be directed to me at
vhrproject@...

Russ Maurer
VHR project coordinator


Israel cemetery search #general

Trudy Barch
 

Hi friends,

Happy Chanukah to all.

1) Where would a family member that died after 1950 in Jerusalem, Israel
probably be buried?
I tried JewishGen database and had no luck. Where else should I look?

The name is Eleizer (or some similar spelling) WATSTEIN

2) Also twins that died at birth prior to 1905 in Jerusalem Palastine,
would there be a birth and death record for them?
If so, where would I find that information? Don't know if they were male
or female or one of each.

Thank you, Trudy Barch (FL)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Israel cemetery search #general

Trudy Barch
 

Hi friends,

Happy Chanukah to all.

1) Where would a family member that died after 1950 in Jerusalem, Israel
probably be buried?
I tried JewishGen database and had no luck. Where else should I look?

The name is Eleizer (or some similar spelling) WATSTEIN

2) Also twins that died at birth prior to 1905 in Jerusalem Palastine,
would there be a birth and death record for them?
If so, where would I find that information? Don't know if they were male
or female or one of each.

Thank you, Trudy Barch (FL)


Barbara Simon (1820 - 1888) #general

David_Linda Thompson <david.lindat@...>
 

I am trying to document the family (parents & siblings) of Barbara
Simon (Birth: 1820 in Waldhilbersheim, Landkreis Bad Kreuznach,
Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany - Death: 13 Feb 1888 (aged 67 - 68) in
Kosciusko, Attala County, Mississippi, USA - Burial: Beth Israel
Cemetery, Jackson, Hinds County, Mississippi, USA per Find A Grave
Memorial ID 11022597

In the 1880 census, Kosciusko, Attala County, MS, she was age 60, born
abt 1820 in Germany, white, female, single and recorded with the R. G.
McCoy family in a hotel operated by Mary McKinney.

R. G. was age 30, his wife Bettie, age 25, their daughter Nannie, age
4. Also with them was Henry Clark (age 30, born abt 1850 in MS, black,
male, single, servant) and Mariah Veasley, (age 50, born abt 1830 in
MS, black, female, widowed, servant).

I am neither Jewish nor a family member, but I am slowly documenting
the names and relationships of individuals and families who lived in
Attala County in 1830 ~ 1930. See
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/155780143/person/412053397528/facts
[or https://tinyurl.com/yck6b5jz --Mod.]

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you, Dave Thompson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Barbara Simon (1820 - 1888) #general

David_Linda Thompson <david.lindat@...>
 

I am trying to document the family (parents & siblings) of Barbara
Simon (Birth: 1820 in Waldhilbersheim, Landkreis Bad Kreuznach,
Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany - Death: 13 Feb 1888 (aged 67 - 68) in
Kosciusko, Attala County, Mississippi, USA - Burial: Beth Israel
Cemetery, Jackson, Hinds County, Mississippi, USA per Find A Grave
Memorial ID 11022597

In the 1880 census, Kosciusko, Attala County, MS, she was age 60, born
abt 1820 in Germany, white, female, single and recorded with the R. G.
McCoy family in a hotel operated by Mary McKinney.

R. G. was age 30, his wife Bettie, age 25, their daughter Nannie, age
4. Also with them was Henry Clark (age 30, born abt 1850 in MS, black,
male, single, servant) and Mariah Veasley, (age 50, born abt 1830 in
MS, black, female, widowed, servant).

I am neither Jewish nor a family member, but I am slowly documenting
the names and relationships of individuals and families who lived in
Attala County in 1830 ~ 1930. See
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/155780143/person/412053397528/facts
[or https://tinyurl.com/yck6b5jz --Mod.]

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you, Dave Thompson


ITMAN #lithuania

Angie Elfassi
 

Hi,

On JewishGen, I have found the death of a relative
Itman, Jankelis s/o Abramas Ickas and Sore Etel died in Stakliskes died
11th November 1930, aged 68 years.

On Yad Vashem I have found the death of
Chaim Yakov, born about 1882, husband of Henia, nee FINK. He was murdered
in 1942.

According to my records, 'my' Chaim Yankel ITMAN was married to Gena
Funkaite/Funk.

My records are taken >from JewishGen.

Any suggestion would be much appreciated about when Chaim Yakov actually
died.

Regards
Angie Elfassi
Yehud, Israel


Searching:
RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds
COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds
MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds
KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds
ITMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/USA


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania ITMAN #lithuania

Angie Elfassi
 

Hi,

On JewishGen, I have found the death of a relative
Itman, Jankelis s/o Abramas Ickas and Sore Etel died in Stakliskes died
11th November 1930, aged 68 years.

On Yad Vashem I have found the death of
Chaim Yakov, born about 1882, husband of Henia, nee FINK. He was murdered
in 1942.

According to my records, 'my' Chaim Yankel ITMAN was married to Gena
Funkaite/Funk.

My records are taken >from JewishGen.

Any suggestion would be much appreciated about when Chaim Yakov actually
died.

Regards
Angie Elfassi
Yehud, Israel


Searching:
RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds
COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds
MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds
KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds
ITMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/USA


Gdal David LERNER and Rywska Gitla SILBERSTEIN #general

Lemberski Evelyne
 

I research :

the date and place of birth, the date of naturalization and the date
of death of Gdal David LERNER who had a kosher poultry butchery before
and after the second world war. His business was called "Schomrey
Hadass" and was located at 27 rue des rosiers in Paris.

the date and place of birth, the date of naturalization and the date
of death of his wife Rywska Gitla SILBERSTEIN.

Thanking you for your help,

Evelyne LEMBERSKI
Saint Maurice
France
evelynelemberski@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gdal David LERNER and Rywska Gitla SILBERSTEIN #general

Lemberski Evelyne
 

I research :

the date and place of birth, the date of naturalization and the date
of death of Gdal David LERNER who had a kosher poultry butchery before
and after the second world war. His business was called "Schomrey
Hadass" and was located at 27 rue des rosiers in Paris.

the date and place of birth, the date of naturalization and the date
of death of his wife Rywska Gitla SILBERSTEIN.

Thanking you for your help,

Evelyne LEMBERSKI
Saint Maurice
France
evelynelemberski@...


Re: Barbara Simon (1820 - 1888) #general

P. S. Wyant
 

Shalom, David.

I can't assist you very much, I'm afraid.

"Juedische Grabstaetten im Kreis Bad Kreuznach" (Kreisverwaltung Bad
Kreuznach, 1995) does not list an extant Juedische Friedhof (Jewish
cemetery) at D-55452 Waldhilbersheim. The closest Jewish cemetery is
at D-55452 Guldental, about 1 km. SE of Waldhilbersheim (in fact,
Waldhilbersheim is now considered to be part of Guldental). There are
no existing gravestones for SIMONs in the small Jewish cemetery at
Guldental, but then only 20 gravestones remain there. Gravestones for
relatives of Barbara might no longer exist there or they might be
found in a neighbouring Jewish cemetery.

The BMD records (Personenstandesregistern) for this entire area have
been fully microfilmed by the Latter-Day Saints. My best suggestion
for unearthing Barbara's parents and siblings is to have a read of
those microfilms.

Regards,

Peter Wyant
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: david.lindat@...
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2018 20:39

I am trying to document the family (parents & siblings) of Barbara
Simon (Birth: 1820 in Waldhilbersheim, Landkreis Bad Kreuznach,
Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany - Death: 13 Feb 1888 (aged 67 - 68) in
Kosciusko, Attala County, Mississippi, USA - Burial: Beth Israel
Cemetery, Jackson, Hinds County, Mississippi, USA per Find A Grave
Memorial ID 11022597
...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Barbara Simon (1820 - 1888) #general

P. S. Wyant
 

Shalom, David.

I can't assist you very much, I'm afraid.

"Juedische Grabstaetten im Kreis Bad Kreuznach" (Kreisverwaltung Bad
Kreuznach, 1995) does not list an extant Juedische Friedhof (Jewish
cemetery) at D-55452 Waldhilbersheim. The closest Jewish cemetery is
at D-55452 Guldental, about 1 km. SE of Waldhilbersheim (in fact,
Waldhilbersheim is now considered to be part of Guldental). There are
no existing gravestones for SIMONs in the small Jewish cemetery at
Guldental, but then only 20 gravestones remain there. Gravestones for
relatives of Barbara might no longer exist there or they might be
found in a neighbouring Jewish cemetery.

The BMD records (Personenstandesregistern) for this entire area have
been fully microfilmed by the Latter-Day Saints. My best suggestion
for unearthing Barbara's parents and siblings is to have a read of
those microfilms.

Regards,

Peter Wyant
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: david.lindat@...
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2018 20:39

I am trying to document the family (parents & siblings) of Barbara
Simon (Birth: 1820 in Waldhilbersheim, Landkreis Bad Kreuznach,
Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany - Death: 13 Feb 1888 (aged 67 - 68) in
Kosciusko, Attala County, Mississippi, USA - Burial: Beth Israel
Cemetery, Jackson, Hinds County, Mississippi, USA per Find A Grave
Memorial ID 11022597
...


Re: Naming pattern among Ashkenazic Jews #general

Herbert Lazerow
 

The naming pattern for eastern European Ashkenazi Jews was:
1. A child is named for a deceased ancestor or a deceased highly
respected person, but never for a living person. Subject to that rule:
2. The first son is named for its father's father; the second son
for its mother's father.
3. The first daughter is named for its mother's mother; the second
daughter for its father's mother.
4. If someone cannot have a namesake in the normal order of rules
2 or 3 because they are still alive at the appropriate time, the next
baby of the appropriate sex to be born after the death of that person
will be named for that person.
5. When the child's father dies during the pregnancy, the child is
named after the child's father if the child is a boy.
After that, I do not think there was a rule.
One must remember that this is only a custom. Individuals could,
and sometimes did, disregard custom.
Bert
--
Herbert Lazerow
San Diego


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming pattern among Ashkenazic Jews #general

Herbert Lazerow
 

The naming pattern for eastern European Ashkenazi Jews was:
1. A child is named for a deceased ancestor or a deceased highly
respected person, but never for a living person. Subject to that rule:
2. The first son is named for its father's father; the second son
for its mother's father.
3. The first daughter is named for its mother's mother; the second
daughter for its father's mother.
4. If someone cannot have a namesake in the normal order of rules
2 or 3 because they are still alive at the appropriate time, the next
baby of the appropriate sex to be born after the death of that person
will be named for that person.
5. When the child's father dies during the pregnancy, the child is
named after the child's father if the child is a boy.
After that, I do not think there was a rule.
One must remember that this is only a custom. Individuals could,
and sometimes did, disregard custom.
Bert
--
Herbert Lazerow
San Diego


Abbreviation on Ellis Island Detention Form #general

Gail Marcus <ghmarcus@...>
 

I am trying to interpret an abbreviation on an Ellis Island detention
form. Before the name of the person to whom the immigrant is being
released, I see what looks like the abbreviation "Fd" in a couple of
cases.

The JewishGen page on the detention records does not list this
abbreviation. It lists "RR" for people being sent to their relatives
by rail. Is "Fd" an indication of people being sent to relatives some
other way? If so, how?

Would appreciate any explanation of this.

Gail Marcus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Abbreviation on Ellis Island Detention Form #general

Gail Marcus <ghmarcus@...>
 

I am trying to interpret an abbreviation on an Ellis Island detention
form. Before the name of the person to whom the immigrant is being
released, I see what looks like the abbreviation "Fd" in a couple of
cases.

The JewishGen page on the detention records does not list this
abbreviation. It lists "RR" for people being sent to their relatives
by rail. Is "Fd" an indication of people being sent to relatives some
other way? If so, how?

Would appreciate any explanation of this.

Gail Marcus

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