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Mogilev-Podolsky Research #ukraine

Phyllis Berenson
 

Dear Friends,

To All Those Researching Mogilev-Podolsky --

Happy Harvest Season !

We are working on gathering as much information as exists for our town.

As many of you know, this has not been easy. Many Jewish records
no longer exist (destroyed, burned, or simply have disappeared). But
the good news is that some have been restored >from fire damage and
some are now being scanned by equipment donated to the archives and
are available at no cost for us to translate.

Here's an outline of the information below. Please read all the
way to the end.

A. Current Projects
* M-P 1895 Census
* M-P Jewish Cemetery Photography Project
B. Forthcoming Projects
C. More news
* M-P KehilaLinks
* New Shargorod Group
D. Help Us Help You
************
A. Current Projects:

* M-P 1895 Census: We are working hard to obtain the M-P 1895
census and any other available census documents >from the Vinnitsa and
Khmelnitsky archives. I am in touch with the director of the Vinnitsa
archive and have requested the 1895 document.

Note: We have already obtained the M-P 1795 Census. You may
be aware that Jews in this area did not have surnames before 1800;
therefore the 1795 census has only given names.

* M-P Jewish Cemetery Photography Project: We have a
photographer ready to begin photographing all of the 5000+ stones in
the large Jewish cemetery. This is a huge and costly endeavor. All
of the photos will have gps coordinates, so that if your ancestor's
grave is identified, you will be able to go to the cemetery, see the
stone, and honor your family.

After we receive all of the photos, the language (Hebrew and/or
Russian) will need to be translated, entered into a spreadsheet, and
finally the information will be uploaded to JewishGen.

Note: The above cemetery does not include the
holocaust-period graves. Those are in a separate cemetery, part of
which was memorialized by Jacob Drucker, one of the gravediggers. We
will post some information about that cemetery on our KehilaLinks
page.

B. Forthcoming Projects

* A small book in Yiddish entitled "In Yene Teg" (In Those Days)
describing the 1919-1920 pogroms in M-P and other towns was donated to
our group by member, Mark Matchen. We need to locate a translator to
complete this project.

C. More News:

* Check out our M-P KehilaLinks page, beautifully redesigned by
Stefani Elkort Twyford.
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/mohyliv_podilskyy/

* Many of you have ancestors who lived in Shargorod (about 25
miles >from M-P). I have started a separate town research group for
Shargorod. We already have a number of records for Shargorod and plan
to photograph and index the cemetery in 2019 ! If you have ancestors
from Shargorod and would like to be part of that group, please email
me at: Shargorod.Phyllis@gmail.com

D. Help Us Help You: You may not know that JewishGen has only 3
paid employees! The rest of us (thousands) are volunteers. As a
volunteer Town Leader, it is my task to locate records and other
resources that yield information, have them translated, and submit
them to jewishgen.org.

To do that work, we must pay document translators (Russian and
Hebrew), cemetery photographers, and sometimes we must pay to obtain
documents.

If you are or know of a volunteer translator who can read old
Russian or Hebrew handwriting, or printed Yiddish, please email me at
MPResearch.phyllis@gmail.com.

Even with some volunteer help, the projects described above can
only be completed with your financial contributions. Please give
generously. Your contributions to our projects are tax deductible.
Go to:

https://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=22

SCROLL DOWN TO: Mogilev-Podolskiy Document Acquisition and
Translation and donate generously.

If you do not make your contribution directly to our project,
it will not be applied to our work.

When you receive your donation receipt, please email it to me.

For any donation of at least $100, we will email the M-P
cemetery translation spreadsheet to you as soon as it is finished.

Thank you for all your help,

Phyllis Gold Berenson, Town Leader
San Francisco and Sonoma, CA
MPResearch.phyllis@gmail.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Mogilev-Podolsky Research #ukraine

Phyllis Berenson
 

Dear Friends,

To All Those Researching Mogilev-Podolsky --

Happy Harvest Season !

We are working on gathering as much information as exists for our town.

As many of you know, this has not been easy. Many Jewish records
no longer exist (destroyed, burned, or simply have disappeared). But
the good news is that some have been restored >from fire damage and
some are now being scanned by equipment donated to the archives and
are available at no cost for us to translate.

Here's an outline of the information below. Please read all the
way to the end.

A. Current Projects
* M-P 1895 Census
* M-P Jewish Cemetery Photography Project
B. Forthcoming Projects
C. More news
* M-P KehilaLinks
* New Shargorod Group
D. Help Us Help You
************
A. Current Projects:

* M-P 1895 Census: We are working hard to obtain the M-P 1895
census and any other available census documents >from the Vinnitsa and
Khmelnitsky archives. I am in touch with the director of the Vinnitsa
archive and have requested the 1895 document.

Note: We have already obtained the M-P 1795 Census. You may
be aware that Jews in this area did not have surnames before 1800;
therefore the 1795 census has only given names.

* M-P Jewish Cemetery Photography Project: We have a
photographer ready to begin photographing all of the 5000+ stones in
the large Jewish cemetery. This is a huge and costly endeavor. All
of the photos will have gps coordinates, so that if your ancestor's
grave is identified, you will be able to go to the cemetery, see the
stone, and honor your family.

After we receive all of the photos, the language (Hebrew and/or
Russian) will need to be translated, entered into a spreadsheet, and
finally the information will be uploaded to JewishGen.

Note: The above cemetery does not include the
holocaust-period graves. Those are in a separate cemetery, part of
which was memorialized by Jacob Drucker, one of the gravediggers. We
will post some information about that cemetery on our KehilaLinks
page.

B. Forthcoming Projects

* A small book in Yiddish entitled "In Yene Teg" (In Those Days)
describing the 1919-1920 pogroms in M-P and other towns was donated to
our group by member, Mark Matchen. We need to locate a translator to
complete this project.

C. More News:

* Check out our M-P KehilaLinks page, beautifully redesigned by
Stefani Elkort Twyford.
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/mohyliv_podilskyy/

* Many of you have ancestors who lived in Shargorod (about 25
miles >from M-P). I have started a separate town research group for
Shargorod. We already have a number of records for Shargorod and plan
to photograph and index the cemetery in 2019 ! If you have ancestors
from Shargorod and would like to be part of that group, please email
me at: Shargorod.Phyllis@gmail.com

D. Help Us Help You: You may not know that JewishGen has only 3
paid employees! The rest of us (thousands) are volunteers. As a
volunteer Town Leader, it is my task to locate records and other
resources that yield information, have them translated, and submit
them to jewishgen.org.

To do that work, we must pay document translators (Russian and
Hebrew), cemetery photographers, and sometimes we must pay to obtain
documents.

If you are or know of a volunteer translator who can read old
Russian or Hebrew handwriting, or printed Yiddish, please email me at
MPResearch.phyllis@gmail.com.

Even with some volunteer help, the projects described above can
only be completed with your financial contributions. Please give
generously. Your contributions to our projects are tax deductible.
Go to:

https://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=22

SCROLL DOWN TO: Mogilev-Podolskiy Document Acquisition and
Translation and donate generously.

If you do not make your contribution directly to our project,
it will not be applied to our work.

When you receive your donation receipt, please email it to me.

For any donation of at least $100, we will email the M-P
cemetery translation spreadsheet to you as soon as it is finished.

Thank you for all your help,

Phyllis Gold Berenson, Town Leader
San Francisco and Sonoma, CA
MPResearch.phyllis@gmail.com


Lviv survey #ukraine

Tomasz Jankowski / JFS <info@...>
 

Dear Friends,

As part of the project "ReHerit: Common Responsibility for Shared Heritage", the Center for Urban History of East Central Europe runs a survey for tourists who visited Lviv for short-term stays (up to 1 month at a time). The goal of the survey is to study the experience of visitors in Lviv, the peculiarities of perceiving its cultural heritage, and to identify key challenges and problem areas the tourists face. To collect the data, we use the online survey available in fours languages:

English: https://goo.gl/forms/xVXCfZYn5QdgWQWS2
Ukrainian: https://goo.gl/forms/WF7aqgtUNAKLV3Eo1
Polish: https://goo.gl/forms/IaWaBzXs8MdGpKRo1
Russian: https://goo.gl/forms/ZcejyfNUScBbmmnY2

We would be happy to have you answer the questions if you ever visited Lviv for short stays, or share the links via social media and for your friends who visited Lviv as tourists.

The survey is anonymous. All the data will be used in a generalized format for the scientific analysis. The survey findings will be available at the website of the Center for Urban History of East Central Europe.

Sincerely yours
Tomasz Jankowski


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Lviv survey #ukraine

Tomasz Jankowski / JFS <info@...>
 

Dear Friends,

As part of the project "ReHerit: Common Responsibility for Shared Heritage", the Center for Urban History of East Central Europe runs a survey for tourists who visited Lviv for short-term stays (up to 1 month at a time). The goal of the survey is to study the experience of visitors in Lviv, the peculiarities of perceiving its cultural heritage, and to identify key challenges and problem areas the tourists face. To collect the data, we use the online survey available in fours languages:

English: https://goo.gl/forms/xVXCfZYn5QdgWQWS2
Ukrainian: https://goo.gl/forms/WF7aqgtUNAKLV3Eo1
Polish: https://goo.gl/forms/IaWaBzXs8MdGpKRo1
Russian: https://goo.gl/forms/ZcejyfNUScBbmmnY2

We would be happy to have you answer the questions if you ever visited Lviv for short stays, or share the links via social media and for your friends who visited Lviv as tourists.

The survey is anonymous. All the data will be used in a generalized format for the scientific analysis. The survey findings will be available at the website of the Center for Urban History of East Central Europe.

Sincerely yours
Tomasz Jankowski


Translation Request Polish #general

bernerfolk
 

I've posted two birth registrations in Polish on ViewMate. I would
appreciate as detailed translation as possible.

They are for Chana PERLMUTER and Chaskel Mendel FRAJDENBERG >from Szrensk.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM70501

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM70502

Please respond privately or on the form provided.

Many thanks,
Sherri Venditti
The Berkshires


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation Request Polish #general

bernerfolk
 

I've posted two birth registrations in Polish on ViewMate. I would
appreciate as detailed translation as possible.

They are for Chana PERLMUTER and Chaskel Mendel FRAJDENBERG >from Szrensk.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM70501

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM70502

Please respond privately or on the form provided.

Many thanks,
Sherri Venditti
The Berkshires


Chacham Tzvi #rabbinic

Torah Essentials
 

A cousin told me that we are descended >from the Chacham Tzvi through
my great grandmother,Frieda Gittel (Biron) Beer. Does anyone have any
suggestions how I can try to connect the dots to the Chacham Tzvi?
Ephraim Baer
I can be reached at torahessentials@msn.com


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Chacham Tzvi #rabbinic

Torah Essentials
 

A cousin told me that we are descended >from the Chacham Tzvi through
my great grandmother,Frieda Gittel (Biron) Beer. Does anyone have any
suggestions how I can try to connect the dots to the Chacham Tzvi?
Ephraim Baer
I can be reached at torahessentials@msn.com


Re: Israel cemetery search #general

Asher <aarbit1@...>
 

The first place to look for burials in Israel is BillionGraves.com.
Although work continues, the majority of the gravestones in the country
have been photographed and transcribed.

Searches are free. You must type the name in the language that appears
on the gravestone, which is usually Hebrew.

Asher Arbit
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Israel cemetery search #general

Asher <aarbit1@...>
 

The first place to look for burials in Israel is BillionGraves.com.
Although work continues, the majority of the gravestones in the country
have been photographed and transcribed.

Searches are free. You must type the name in the language that appears
on the gravestone, which is usually Hebrew.

Asher Arbit
Jerusalem


Re: Israel cemetery search #general

Dahn Cukier
 

Hello,

At any time after 1950, the person would probably be buried in Jerusalem.
Mt of Olives, which is/was listed online. There is a group photographing
the graves. The index may be offset >from the actual photo by a few graves.
If the grave was destroyed by Jordan between 1948-1967. there may not
be records.

Sanhedria was very close to the ceasefire line and use was being
discontinued since 1948. A number of small cemeteries were opened and
closed. The grave were supposed to be moved to Har Hamenuchot, but not
all were moved.

The only way to find a Jerusalem grave is to call the 10+
burial societies (chavri kadisha).

There are 3 Ashkanazi and a general Jerusalem.

If a person has family elsewhere, they may be buried at a local cemetery.
Did the person have family outside Jerusalem? Remember that in those
years the trip to Jerusalem >from Lod was over 90 minutes

I once looked for a grave in Yavneh >from 1952. There is no listing of graves
from those years, so I walked around the small old Yavneh cemetery
until I found a grave marker with the first and father's name and a date.
There was no family name.

Please contact me off-list.

Searching and photography of graves by request is a hobby.
But I cannot get to Jerusalem, and I still have to get myself to Metulla.

Dani

Dahn Cukier
BRIEFF, LISS, CUKIER, ZUCKER, SKLAVOUR


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Israel cemetery search #general

Dahn Cukier
 

Hello,

At any time after 1950, the person would probably be buried in Jerusalem.
Mt of Olives, which is/was listed online. There is a group photographing
the graves. The index may be offset >from the actual photo by a few graves.
If the grave was destroyed by Jordan between 1948-1967. there may not
be records.

Sanhedria was very close to the ceasefire line and use was being
discontinued since 1948. A number of small cemeteries were opened and
closed. The grave were supposed to be moved to Har Hamenuchot, but not
all were moved.

The only way to find a Jerusalem grave is to call the 10+
burial societies (chavri kadisha).

There are 3 Ashkanazi and a general Jerusalem.

If a person has family elsewhere, they may be buried at a local cemetery.
Did the person have family outside Jerusalem? Remember that in those
years the trip to Jerusalem >from Lod was over 90 minutes

I once looked for a grave in Yavneh >from 1952. There is no listing of graves
from those years, so I walked around the small old Yavneh cemetery
until I found a grave marker with the first and father's name and a date.
There was no family name.

Please contact me off-list.

Searching and photography of graves by request is a hobby.
But I cannot get to Jerusalem, and I still have to get myself to Metulla.

Dani

Dahn Cukier
BRIEFF, LISS, CUKIER, ZUCKER, SKLAVOUR


Re: Naming Pattern among Ashkenazic Jews #general

hfpjc
 

The tradition of parents alternating when choosing names (mother
first, father second and so on) is very popular among many Hassidic
communities. The tradition goes even further to the second generation,
i.e. when a son/daughter gets a turn to name a baby >from his/her
family, the grandparents choose the name according to the above
pattern, except if there was a recent death in the family.

Rifky Gelbman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Naming Pattern among Ashkenazic Jews #general

hfpjc
 

The tradition of parents alternating when choosing names (mother
first, father second and so on) is very popular among many Hassidic
communities. The tradition goes even further to the second generation,
i.e. when a son/daughter gets a turn to name a baby >from his/her
family, the grandparents choose the name according to the above
pattern, except if there was a recent death in the family.

Rifky Gelbman


Re: Naming pattern among Ashkenazic Jews #general

Adam Cherson
 

Dear Herbert,

Thanks for this summary.

I wonder what is the convention for a son's name if the father's father
is still alive, or mother's mother is still alive in the case of a
daughter?

Would it be the father's paternal grandfather's name for the son or the
mother's maternal grandmother's for the daughter?

Thanks,
Adam Cherson
NY, NY

---
From: Herbert Lazerow <lazer@sandiego.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:34:34 -0800

The naming pattern for eastern European Ashkenazi Jews was:
1. A child is named for a deceased ancestor or a deceased highly
respected person, but never for a living person. Subject to that rule:
2. The first son is named for its father's father; the second son
for its mother's father.
3. The first daughter is named for its mother's mother; the second
daughter for its father's mother.
4. If someone cannot have a namesake in the normal order of rules
2 or 3 because they are still alive at the appropriate time, the next
baby of the appropriate sex to be born after the death of that person
will be named for that person.
5. When the child's father dies during the pregnancy, the child is
named after the child's father if the child is a boy.
After that, I do not think there was a rule.
One must remember that this is only a custom. Individuals could,
and sometimes did, disregard custom.
Bert


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming pattern among Ashkenazic Jews #general

Adam Cherson
 

Dear Herbert,

Thanks for this summary.

I wonder what is the convention for a son's name if the father's father
is still alive, or mother's mother is still alive in the case of a
daughter?

Would it be the father's paternal grandfather's name for the son or the
mother's maternal grandmother's for the daughter?

Thanks,
Adam Cherson
NY, NY

---
From: Herbert Lazerow <lazer@sandiego.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:34:34 -0800

The naming pattern for eastern European Ashkenazi Jews was:
1. A child is named for a deceased ancestor or a deceased highly
respected person, but never for a living person. Subject to that rule:
2. The first son is named for its father's father; the second son
for its mother's father.
3. The first daughter is named for its mother's mother; the second
daughter for its father's mother.
4. If someone cannot have a namesake in the normal order of rules
2 or 3 because they are still alive at the appropriate time, the next
baby of the appropriate sex to be born after the death of that person
will be named for that person.
5. When the child's father dies during the pregnancy, the child is
named after the child's father if the child is a boy.
After that, I do not think there was a rule.
One must remember that this is only a custom. Individuals could,
and sometimes did, disregard custom.
Bert


Re: Naming pattern among Ashkenazic Jews #general

Jenny Schwartzberg
 

Re the naming pattern for Ashkenazi Jews, I have a question. My
family has assumed that my great-grandparents Schwartzberg's first
two children, Sam and Sara, born in Gniewoszow/Granica, Russia-Poland,
in the 1890s, were named for my great-grandmother's parents, since she
was an orphan and my great-grandfather's parents were still living at
that time.

They were pretty religious >from all accounts since they brought two
Torahs with them to the US and had a mikveh bath in the basement of
their home in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

Does the religiosity mean that they were more likely to have named for
the father's side of the family first?

Yours,
Jenny Schwartzberg
Chicago, IL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming pattern among Ashkenazic Jews #general

Jenny Schwartzberg
 

Re the naming pattern for Ashkenazi Jews, I have a question. My
family has assumed that my great-grandparents Schwartzberg's first
two children, Sam and Sara, born in Gniewoszow/Granica, Russia-Poland,
in the 1890s, were named for my great-grandmother's parents, since she
was an orphan and my great-grandfather's parents were still living at
that time.

They were pretty religious >from all accounts since they brought two
Torahs with them to the US and had a mikveh bath in the basement of
their home in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

Does the religiosity mean that they were more likely to have named for
the father's side of the family first?

Yours,
Jenny Schwartzberg
Chicago, IL


Chanukah in Galicia #galicia

Sharon Taylor
 

I am currently researching the celebration of Chanukah in Galicia. I
am looking for specifics, preferably >from first hand accounts. Does
anyone know of any family pages, Yizkor books or websites that
might have this specific information? My family was >from rural
eastern Galicia, so accounts >from that area would be especially
useful.

Many thanks!
Sharon Taylor
stay9045@verizon.net

Researching Nemeth, Ingier, Ungar, Kastenbaum, Wiesner and Fleissig


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Chanukah in Galicia #galicia

Sharon Taylor
 

I am currently researching the celebration of Chanukah in Galicia. I
am looking for specifics, preferably >from first hand accounts. Does
anyone know of any family pages, Yizkor books or websites that
might have this specific information? My family was >from rural
eastern Galicia, so accounts >from that area would be especially
useful.

Many thanks!
Sharon Taylor
stay9045@verizon.net

Researching Nemeth, Ingier, Ungar, Kastenbaum, Wiesner and Fleissig

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