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What are the new guidelines?
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IGRA Meeting January 8 in Ra'anana, Israel- Avrohom Groll on JewishGen
#general
Elena Bazes
Join us for the next meeting of the Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) on
January 8th. Avraham Groll will speak on What's New on JewishGen.org JewishGen features thousands of databases, research tools and other resources to help those with Jewish ancestry research and find family members. It is relied upon by thousands of people each day. In this presentation, Avraham Groll will focus on recent progress and new features on JewishGen and some advanced previews. Avraham Groll, the Director of JewishGen.org, is passionate about connecting people with their Jewish roots, and helping them experience what it means to be part of the Jewish people. He is a frequent lecturer on a variety of Jewish genealogical and historical topics. Avraham holds an MBA >from Montclair State University, an MA in Judaic Studies >from Touro College, and a BS in Business Administration from Ramapo College, and spent two years studying at Yeshiva Ohr Yerushalayim in Israel. Location: Bet Fisher, 5 Klausner Street, Ra'anana Doors open at 19:00 Meeting begins at 19:30. Cost: IGRA members-Free Admission Non-members-NIS 20 To join IGRA, go to http://genealogy.org.il/membership/ Elena Bazes IGRA Publicity Chairperson
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(US-NYC) Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Rule on Accessing Birth and Death Records
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
New York City Rules Updates published the following reminder that the
amendment to the General Vital Statistics Provisions of the NYC Health Code Article 207 becomes effective on January 1, 2019. The rule addresses when birth and death records are to be transferred >from the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene (NYCDoHMH) to the Department of Records and Information Services (DORIS). The embargo dates are 125 years after birth and 75 years after death. As a result of the over 5,000 comments in response to the then proposed rule with these embargo dates, the NYCDoHMH further proposed and adopted an additional rule expanding the family members who could access the records >from the NYCDoHMH during the embargo period. The new rule expands those who can access a death record to great-great grandchildren, nephews, nieces, aunts, uncles, grandnephews, and grandnieces. Existing code already permitted the following family members: the spouse, domestic partner, parent, child, sibling, grandparent or grandchild. The rule also expands those family members who can access birth records of a deceased individual to: spouses, domestic partners, parents of children over the age of 18, children, siblings, nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles, grandchildren, great grandchildren, grandnieces, and grandnephews. While requests were to expand those to additional family members and professional researchers with no family connection to the people's histories they are researching should have broad access to birth and death records, both of these requests were declined by the Department. To read the notice see: hhttps://rules.cityofnewyork.us/content/amendment-general-vital-statistics-provisions-article-207-nyc-health-code Marriage records are under the purview of the City Clerk's Office, not of the NYCDoHMH and therefore, are not covered by this rule. To read previous articles on NYCDoHMH rule on access to birth and death records, see the IAJGS Records Access Alert archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts. You must be registered to access the archives. To register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/ and fill in the missing blanks. You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized. It is required to include your organization affiliation (genealogy organization, etc.) Thank you to Chuck Weinstein, member JGS Long Island for sharing the notice posting with us. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IGRA Meeting January 8 in Ra'anana, Israel- Avrohom Groll on JewishGen
#general
Elena Bazes
Join us for the next meeting of the Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) on
January 8th. Avraham Groll will speak on What's New on JewishGen.org JewishGen features thousands of databases, research tools and other resources to help those with Jewish ancestry research and find family members. It is relied upon by thousands of people each day. In this presentation, Avraham Groll will focus on recent progress and new features on JewishGen and some advanced previews. Avraham Groll, the Director of JewishGen.org, is passionate about connecting people with their Jewish roots, and helping them experience what it means to be part of the Jewish people. He is a frequent lecturer on a variety of Jewish genealogical and historical topics. Avraham holds an MBA >from Montclair State University, an MA in Judaic Studies >from Touro College, and a BS in Business Administration from Ramapo College, and spent two years studying at Yeshiva Ohr Yerushalayim in Israel. Location: Bet Fisher, 5 Klausner Street, Ra'anana Doors open at 19:00 Meeting begins at 19:30. Cost: IGRA members-Free Admission Non-members-NIS 20 To join IGRA, go to http://genealogy.org.il/membership/ Elena Bazes IGRA Publicity Chairperson
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US-NYC) Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Rule on Accessing Birth and Death Records
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
New York City Rules Updates published the following reminder that the
amendment to the General Vital Statistics Provisions of the NYC Health Code Article 207 becomes effective on January 1, 2019. The rule addresses when birth and death records are to be transferred >from the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene (NYCDoHMH) to the Department of Records and Information Services (DORIS). The embargo dates are 125 years after birth and 75 years after death. As a result of the over 5,000 comments in response to the then proposed rule with these embargo dates, the NYCDoHMH further proposed and adopted an additional rule expanding the family members who could access the records >from the NYCDoHMH during the embargo period. The new rule expands those who can access a death record to great-great grandchildren, nephews, nieces, aunts, uncles, grandnephews, and grandnieces. Existing code already permitted the following family members: the spouse, domestic partner, parent, child, sibling, grandparent or grandchild. The rule also expands those family members who can access birth records of a deceased individual to: spouses, domestic partners, parents of children over the age of 18, children, siblings, nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles, grandchildren, great grandchildren, grandnieces, and grandnephews. While requests were to expand those to additional family members and professional researchers with no family connection to the people's histories they are researching should have broad access to birth and death records, both of these requests were declined by the Department. To read the notice see: hhttps://rules.cityofnewyork.us/content/amendment-general-vital-statistics-provisions-article-207-nyc-health-code Marriage records are under the purview of the City Clerk's Office, not of the NYCDoHMH and therefore, are not covered by this rule. To read previous articles on NYCDoHMH rule on access to birth and death records, see the IAJGS Records Access Alert archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts. You must be registered to access the archives. To register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/ and fill in the missing blanks. You will receive an email response that you have to reply to or the subscription will not be finalized. It is required to include your organization affiliation (genealogy organization, etc.) Thank you to Chuck Weinstein, member JGS Long Island for sharing the notice posting with us. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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(Latin America) Genetic Study of Latin Americans Reveals History of Converso Migration
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
A genetic study of over 6,500 Latin American individuals uncovered ancestry
that could be traced to North Africa and eastern Mediterranean >from several centuries back. Historical records and genetic analyses indicate that Latin Americans trace their ancestry mainly to the intermixing of Native Americans, Europeans and Sub-Saharan Africans. The study could corroborate family legends of Converso heritage. They found in the Native American ancestry that about a quarter shared five percent or more of their ancestry with people living in North Africa and the eastern Mediterranean, including Sephardic Jews. The researchers timed the influx of Mediterranean ancestry among Latin Americans to the Spanish colonization of Latin America. They suggest that a number of recent Conversos left Spain for Latin America, "using false documents" as they were prohibited >from leaving so by the monarchy . The study shows that Conversos came to the Americas in disproportionate numbers. The researchers examined more than 500,000 autosomal SNPs typed in about 6,500 individuals who were born in Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Mexico and Peru. They were then compared to 2,300 people from, all over the world. The study was reported in Nature Communications and the can be found at: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-07748-z. They also collected data >from 42 populations representing five major bio-geographic regions: Native Americans, Europeans, East/South Mediterranean, Sub-Saharan Africans and East Asians. Geneticists also found rare genetic diseases prevalent among Jews popping up in Latin America. To read about the study see The Atlantic at: https://tinyurl.com/yam25uhb Original url: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/12/dna-reveals-the-hidden-jewish-ancestry-of-latin-americans/578509/ Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Latin America) Genetic Study of Latin Americans Reveals History of Converso Migration
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
A genetic study of over 6,500 Latin American individuals uncovered ancestry
that could be traced to North Africa and eastern Mediterranean >from several centuries back. Historical records and genetic analyses indicate that Latin Americans trace their ancestry mainly to the intermixing of Native Americans, Europeans and Sub-Saharan Africans. The study could corroborate family legends of Converso heritage. They found in the Native American ancestry that about a quarter shared five percent or more of their ancestry with people living in North Africa and the eastern Mediterranean, including Sephardic Jews. The researchers timed the influx of Mediterranean ancestry among Latin Americans to the Spanish colonization of Latin America. They suggest that a number of recent Conversos left Spain for Latin America, "using false documents" as they were prohibited >from leaving so by the monarchy . The study shows that Conversos came to the Americas in disproportionate numbers. The researchers examined more than 500,000 autosomal SNPs typed in about 6,500 individuals who were born in Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Mexico and Peru. They were then compared to 2,300 people from, all over the world. The study was reported in Nature Communications and the can be found at: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-07748-z. They also collected data >from 42 populations representing five major bio-geographic regions: Native Americans, Europeans, East/South Mediterranean, Sub-Saharan Africans and East Asians. Geneticists also found rare genetic diseases prevalent among Jews popping up in Latin America. To read about the study see The Atlantic at: https://tinyurl.com/yam25uhb Original url: https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/12/dna-reveals-the-hidden-jewish-ancestry-of-latin-americans/578509/ Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Szikszo
#hungary
joseph just
To all,
Does anyone know whether BMD records exist for Abauj Szikszo and if yes, where they might be located? Thank you, Sarah Just
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Szikszo
#hungary
joseph just
To all,
Does anyone know whether BMD records exist for Abauj Szikszo and if yes, where they might be located? Thank you, Sarah Just
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Staré family
#hungary
pheilbrunn@...
Hi,
I am trying to trace ancestors of the following. Perhaps someone knows wher= e to begin my research. Johann STARE was born July 2 1855 in Aich, Herzogt= um Krain [nowadays Dob in Slovenia]; Maria ZSILSAVECZ was born December 9 = 1854 in Belatincz in Hungary (nowadays Beltinci in Slovenia). =20 Regards, Peter Heilbrunn <snip> Amersham England
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Staré family
#hungary
pheilbrunn@...
Hi,
I am trying to trace ancestors of the following. Perhaps someone knows wher= e to begin my research. Johann STARE was born July 2 1855 in Aich, Herzogt= um Krain [nowadays Dob in Slovenia]; Maria ZSILSAVECZ was born December 9 = 1854 in Belatincz in Hungary (nowadays Beltinci in Slovenia). =20 Regards, Peter Heilbrunn <snip> Amersham England
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(France) French National Rail to Build Holocaust Museum at Former Pithiviers Station
#france
Jan Meisels Allen
The French National Rail company (SNCF) allotted $2.3 million to build a
Holocaust memorial at the Pithiviers train station in eastern France. The Pithiviers station has remained abandoned for years and therefore has not been changed since it was the gathering and dispatch point for Jews sent to be murdered in Eastern Europe. In May 1941 the Pithiviers station saw the arrival of more than 3,500 Jews without French citizenship. These Jewish refugees were ordered to report to the police stations in Paris following the Nazi invasion of France that month. The Jews were mainly >from Poland and Czechoslovakia. With the logistical help of SNCF some 16,000 Jews were sent to be murdered in death camps >from Pithiviers station and the neighboring camp of Beaune-la-Rolande in eight transports between 1941 and 1943, mostly sending the prisoners to Auschwitz. The camp was closed in 1943 by the then commander of the Drancy concentration camp. CRIF, the umbrella group of French Jewish communities will partner in designing the museum. To read more see: https://forward.com/fast-forward/374241/first-french-concentration-camp-bein g-converted-into-memorial/ [TinyURL: <https://tinyurl.com/y9je9jrw> Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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French SIG #France (France) French National Rail to Build Holocaust Museum at Former Pithiviers Station
#france
Jan Meisels Allen
The French National Rail company (SNCF) allotted $2.3 million to build a
Holocaust memorial at the Pithiviers train station in eastern France. The Pithiviers station has remained abandoned for years and therefore has not been changed since it was the gathering and dispatch point for Jews sent to be murdered in Eastern Europe. In May 1941 the Pithiviers station saw the arrival of more than 3,500 Jews without French citizenship. These Jewish refugees were ordered to report to the police stations in Paris following the Nazi invasion of France that month. The Jews were mainly >from Poland and Czechoslovakia. With the logistical help of SNCF some 16,000 Jews were sent to be murdered in death camps >from Pithiviers station and the neighboring camp of Beaune-la-Rolande in eight transports between 1941 and 1943, mostly sending the prisoners to Auschwitz. The camp was closed in 1943 by the then commander of the Drancy concentration camp. CRIF, the umbrella group of French Jewish communities will partner in designing the museum. To read more see: https://forward.com/fast-forward/374241/first-french-concentration-camp-bein g-converted-into-memorial/ [TinyURL: <https://tinyurl.com/y9je9jrw> Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Ukraine SIG and the IAJGS conference in Cleveland
#ukraine
Janette Silverman
Dear Friends:
Planning is underway for the Ukraine SIG events at the annual IAJGS conference, this year in Cleveland, OH 28 Jul - 2 Aug 2019. We always have a SIG lunch and a general meeting, and participate in the Share Fair. I don't know the day and time for any of these events yet, and won't know, until the programming committee finishes the hard work of planning all the sessions. Right now, I'm asking for suggestions for a speaker for the lunch - if anyone has a particular topic or speaker they would like addressed, please email me privately at ukrainesig.coordinator@... Similarly, if there is anything in particular you would like addressed at the general meeting, I would like your thoughts, also sent to me privately. In the past several years, at the lunch, we have had Ukraine SIG members speak about their own travel in Ukraine (we did this in Jerusalem and in Poland), we have also had outside speakers - Eric Goldman discussed "Everything is Illuminated" in advance of the film being shown at one o fthe conferences, Yochai Ben Ghedalya of the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People (CAHJP) spoke at another conference. At the general meeting, we usually discuss several projects that are underway, how to create a project and fund it, becoming a town leader, and more. We will also need volunteers to help at the Share Fair table, so please keep in mind that I'll be putting a call out for volunteers once I know when the Share Fair will be. I'm looking forward to seeing many of you in Ohio. Next week I'll be sending out a message about upcoming additions to the JewishGen Database >from Ukraine SIG. I wish everyone a wonderful 2019 Janette -- Dr. Janette Silverman JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator ukrainesig.coordinator@... http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Ukraine SIG and the IAJGS conference in Cleveland
#ukraine
Janette Silverman
Dear Friends:
Planning is underway for the Ukraine SIG events at the annual IAJGS conference, this year in Cleveland, OH 28 Jul - 2 Aug 2019. We always have a SIG lunch and a general meeting, and participate in the Share Fair. I don't know the day and time for any of these events yet, and won't know, until the programming committee finishes the hard work of planning all the sessions. Right now, I'm asking for suggestions for a speaker for the lunch - if anyone has a particular topic or speaker they would like addressed, please email me privately at ukrainesig.coordinator@... Similarly, if there is anything in particular you would like addressed at the general meeting, I would like your thoughts, also sent to me privately. In the past several years, at the lunch, we have had Ukraine SIG members speak about their own travel in Ukraine (we did this in Jerusalem and in Poland), we have also had outside speakers - Eric Goldman discussed "Everything is Illuminated" in advance of the film being shown at one o fthe conferences, Yochai Ben Ghedalya of the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People (CAHJP) spoke at another conference. At the general meeting, we usually discuss several projects that are underway, how to create a project and fund it, becoming a town leader, and more. We will also need volunteers to help at the Share Fair table, so please keep in mind that I'll be putting a call out for volunteers once I know when the Share Fair will be. I'm looking forward to seeing many of you in Ohio. Next week I'll be sending out a message about upcoming additions to the JewishGen Database >from Ukraine SIG. I wish everyone a wonderful 2019 Janette -- Dr. Janette Silverman JewishGen Ukraine-SIG Coordinator ukrainesig.coordinator@... http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/default.asp https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ukraine-SIG/180102942060505
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(US-Kansas) Early Jewish (US) Prairie Settlements
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
In the 1882 before the Baron de Hirsh Fund launched the Jewish Agricultural
Society, the Beersheeba colony in Kansas was funded and conceived by the Hebrew Union Agricultural Society. This was the brainchild of Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise, founder of the American Jewish Reform Movement. Jews had to flee Russia after Czar Alexander lll rescinded the more lenient Jewish policies developed by his late father. Under the new edicts, Jews were prohibited >from owning or leasing land and subject to pogroms. Rabbi Wise funded the resettlement program with appeals through the American Israelite publication. The US government promised via the Homestead Act, 160 acres to any citizen or would-be citizen who improved their acreage, built a dwelling or resided there for five years. Beersheba community members would homestead in Southwestern Kansas. By July 1882, 59 families were selected by the Society to populate the settlement. Beersheeba was not the only farming community to be established for Jews in the Western U.S. Communities were settled in Colorado, North Dakota, and in Oregon. Due to disputes the Beersheeba community started to seek their fortunes elsewhere- although about half stayed in Beersheeba, but it ended in 1887, but six other short-lived agricultural communities, were established between 1883 and 1890 . To read the Tablet article on these early American Jewish agricultural settlements in the mid-west and west see: https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/275065/jews-on-the-prairie Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (US-Kansas) Early Jewish (US) Prairie Settlements
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
In the 1882 before the Baron de Hirsh Fund launched the Jewish Agricultural
Society, the Beersheeba colony in Kansas was funded and conceived by the Hebrew Union Agricultural Society. This was the brainchild of Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise, founder of the American Jewish Reform Movement. Jews had to flee Russia after Czar Alexander lll rescinded the more lenient Jewish policies developed by his late father. Under the new edicts, Jews were prohibited >from owning or leasing land and subject to pogroms. Rabbi Wise funded the resettlement program with appeals through the American Israelite publication. The US government promised via the Homestead Act, 160 acres to any citizen or would-be citizen who improved their acreage, built a dwelling or resided there for five years. Beersheba community members would homestead in Southwestern Kansas. By July 1882, 59 families were selected by the Society to populate the settlement. Beersheeba was not the only farming community to be established for Jews in the Western U.S. Communities were settled in Colorado, North Dakota, and in Oregon. Due to disputes the Beersheeba community started to seek their fortunes elsewhere- although about half stayed in Beersheeba, but it ended in 1887, but six other short-lived agricultural communities, were established between 1883 and 1890 . To read the Tablet article on these early American Jewish agricultural settlements in the mid-west and west see: https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/275065/jews-on-the-prairie Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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name change from Cohen to Korn
#general
Sharon R. Korn <s.r.korn@...>
I have been told that it was common in Galicia for Jews with the surname Cohen to
change the name to Korn to seem more German. Is anyone aware of this practice, and is there any documentation available? Thank you. Sharon Korn San Diego, CA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen name change from Cohen to Korn
#general
Sharon R. Korn <s.r.korn@...>
I have been told that it was common in Galicia for Jews with the surname Cohen to
change the name to Korn to seem more German. Is anyone aware of this practice, and is there any documentation available? Thank you. Sharon Korn San Diego, CA
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Mount Moriah Cememtery, Fairwiew NJ
#general
A. E. Jordan
Looks like I will be making a visit to Mount Moriah Cemetery and wanted to offer to
do a number of grave photos. Please know that the people are in the cemetery and I need specific information on the name, date of death, and location. I have to keep it to a manageable number because the cemetery systems are not specific so I will have to ask them to help show me where the plots are and that sort of limits how much I can ask them for while I am there. In turn I do appreciate a few dollars to help offset the expense of doing this and making it possible for me to keep doing this for everyone. Please contact me privately (off-list) to discuss. Allan Jordan
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mount Moriah Cememtery, Fairwiew NJ
#general
A. E. Jordan
Looks like I will be making a visit to Mount Moriah Cemetery and wanted to offer to
do a number of grave photos. Please know that the people are in the cemetery and I need specific information on the name, date of death, and location. I have to keep it to a manageable number because the cemetery systems are not specific so I will have to ask them to help show me where the plots are and that sort of limits how much I can ask them for while I am there. In turn I do appreciate a few dollars to help offset the expense of doing this and making it possible for me to keep doing this for everyone. Please contact me privately (off-list) to discuss. Allan Jordan
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