The New JewishGen.org Discussion Group Member Guide
What is the JewishGen.org Discussion Group?
The JewishGen.org Discussion Group unites thousands of Jewish genealogical researchers worldwide as they research their family history, search for relatives, and share information, ideas, methods, tips, techniques, and resources. The JewishGen.org Discussion Group makes it easy, quick, and fun, to connect with others around the world.
Is it Secure?
Yes. JewishGen is using a state of the art platform with the most contemporary security standards. JewishGen will never share member information with third parties.
How is the New JewishGen.org Discussion Group better than the old one?
Our old Discussion List platform was woefully antiquated. Among its many challenges: it was not secure, it required messages to be sent in Plain Text, did not support accented characters or languages other than English, could not display links or images, and had archives that were not mobile-friendly.
This new platform that JewishGen is using is a scalable, and sustainable solution, and allows us to engage with JewishGen members throughout the world. It offers a simple and intuitive interface for both members and moderators, more powerful tools, and more secure archives (which are easily accessible on mobile devices, and which also block out personal email addresses to the public).
I am a JewishGen member, why do I have to create a separate account for the Discussion Group?
As we continue to modernize our platform, we are trying to ensure that everything meets contemporary security standards. In the future, we plan hope to have one single sign-in page.
I like how the current lists work. Will I still be able to send/receive emails of posts (and/or digests)?
Yes. In terms of functionality, the group will operate the same for people who like to participate with email. People can still send a message to an email address (in this case, main@groups.JewishGen.org), and receive a daily digest of postings, or individual emails. In addition, Members can also receive a daily summary of topics, and then choose which topics they would like to read about it. However, in addition to email, there is the additional functionality of being able to read/post messages utilizing our online forum (https://groups.jewishgen.org).
Does this new system require plain-text?
No.
Can I post images, accented characters, different colors/font sizes, non-latin characters?
Yes.
Can I categorize a message? For example, if my message is related to Polish, or Ukraine research, can I indicate as such?
Yes! Our new platform allows members to use “Hashtags.” Messages can then be sorted, and searched, based upon how they are categorized. Another advantage is that members can “mute” any conversations they are not interested in, by simply indicating they are not interested in a particular “hashtag.”
Will all posts be archived?
Yes.
What happens to the archived messages on the old JewishGen Discussion Group?
All the messages will be accessible and searchable, as they have always been. In the near future, we will be migrating all of the old messages (going back to 1993) into our new platform, and at that point, we will shut down the old platform.
Are all of the JewishGen Discussion Lists being improved?
To start, we are upgrading the main JewishGen Discussion Group. In the near future, we will focus on the Discussion Groups of various JewishGen areas and projects as well (such as the previously known SIG lists, topical lists, etc).
What if I have questions or need assistance using the new Group?
Send your questions to: main+help@groups.jewishgen.org
How do I access the Group’s webpage?
Follow this link: https://groups.jewishgen.org/g/main
So just to be sure - this new group will allow us to post from our mobile phones, includes images, accented characters, and non-latin characters, and does not require plain text?
Correct!
Will there be any ads or annoying pop-ups?
No.
Will the current guidelines change?
Yes. While posts will be moderated to ensure civility, and that there is nothing posted that is inappropriate (or completely unrelated to genealogy), we will be trying to create an online community of people who regulate themselves, much as they do (very successfully) on Jewish Genealogy Portal on Facebook.
What are the new guidelines?
There are just a few simple rules & guidelines to follow:
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Topics: Posts should relate to Jewish genealogy. We do not discuss religious issues (such as "Who is a Jew" and other discussions that are frequently raised within the context of researching one's roots).
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Moderation: This group is moderated to ensure civility, and that posts are related to Jewish genealogy.
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Frequency: You may post unique messages as often as you like, but please try to be thoughtful in your posts, and do not abuse this approach by posting many messages the same day, etc.
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Commercial Posts: We welcome everyone, including other non-profit organizations, to share commercial offers as long as they are related to Jewish genealogy, and that those posting them do not abuse the privilege. Commercial posts should not repeat more than once every three months. (For example: authors should feel free to post about recent book publications, etc., just please try not to abuse the privilege).
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Fundraising Posts: Please do not post fundraising requests for other organizations.
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Images/Files: You may attach images and files (if a file is too large, we will do our best to resize it, or ask you to upload it somewhere else, and provide a link).
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Language: The official language of the group is English, but we can accept messages and content in most languages. If posting something in a language other than English, please provide a sentence describing the content.
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Links: If posting a link to a website not in English, please provide a description of the content.
Thank you in advance for contributing to this amazing online community!
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The JewishGen.org Team
Re: Photographic Stick Pins
#Galicia
Frank Schulaner
I once had two such photo pins (black and white), of my mother (born 1907) and grandmother (born c. 1870), taken when both were one or two years old, in what must have been the same studio in Rymanow, Galicia.
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photograph stick pins
Frank Schulaner
I once had two such photo pins (black and white), of my
mother (born 1907) and grandmother (born c. 1870), taken when both were one or
two years old, in what must have been the same studio in Rymanow,
Galicia.
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Re: Photographic Stick Pins
#Galicia
Frank Schulaner
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 04:25 PM, <barbarakrasner@...> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 04:25 PM, <barbarakrasner@...> wrote:
I once had two such photo pins (black and white), of my mother (born 1907) and grandmother (born c. 1870), taken when both were one or two years old, in what must have been the same studio in Rymanow, Galicia.
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information abour Nowy Sacz, former Galicia
#Galicia
sylvia vanderhoeft
Does anyone know where I can find information ( such as birthrecords) in Nowy sacz before 1820?
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Ropschitz in America
YBentham
Hello
My late father David Henryk Ropschitz had relatives in the USA at the end of the 1800s I believe. I have also found the name Ropschitz appearing in an address, like a street name somewhere in the USA. Are there any Ropschitz family members around who might be connected to the Ropschitz family from Lvov? Morris Ropschitz born Lvov 1865 I believe, was my grandfather. I would be thrilled to be in touch with anyone from that family connection since most of the family was wiped out in Auschwitz. Thank you. Yolanda Ropschitz Bentham, Somerset, England. , moderator note: please respond privately
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Re: SS5 Question for Immigrants
#USA
#Help
#BrickWall
#Poland
I'm not convinced she could not have a Social Security Number even if she wasn't a citizen, but maybe others can cite the official rules on that question. I went to look at the 1952 manifest mentioned.
My guess is Murray’s NC 2166347 would date from sometime in the 1920’s. Helen’s NC 6517534 would date from right after WW II (ca 1944-46 or so, maybe a little later).
If you can find a court record of Helen’s naturalization and confirm she was issued that certificate number (it should be written on the back of her granted petition for naturalization or might appear on an index card), then you might want to request that C-file by number from USCIS (uscis.gov/genealogy). The C-number is above 6.5 million, so it should be a substantial file with many documents showing place of birth—perhaps even her sworn testimony with that question.
Marian Smith
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JewishGen Weekly Update 10/11/19
#JewishGenNews
Nancy Siegel
JEWISHGEN WEEKLY UPDATE October 11, 2019 Don’t miss the latest issue of JewishGen’s Weekly Update, which reports on a variety of new and updated JewishGen resources. We hope you will find it to be informative and helpful to your research. This issue includes articles about:
We invite you to access the JewishGen Weekly Update by following this link: https://mailchi.mp/jewishgen.org/jewishgen-weekly-update-303615 Nancy Siegel (San Francisco, CA, USA) Communications Coordinator JewishGen.org
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Accessibility Issue.
#Help
Barbara Mannlein
Thanks to Jon Seligman for raising this issue White text on a black ground is an accessibility issue.
Jon Seligman wrote: The hashtag has the potential to be useful but needs to be visually presented better. The white in small letters on a light green background (#Sephardic#Galicia) makes it almost invisible to the eye. Larger letters and a black background would work (#Sephardic #Galicia).
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Re: SS5 Question for Immigrants
#USA
#Help
#BrickWall
#Poland
jbonline1111@...
"She requested her SS# in 1977 (she was 77 years old). She had to have been naturalized in order to get a SS#. But my question is, if she wasn't born in the US, how could she get a SS# without a birth certificate or naturalization papers? "
Actually, anyone who works in the USA must have a Social Security number. They do not have to be born here nor must they be naturalilzed citizens. Women of Helen's generation may never have worked outside the home, but might have to get a social security number in order to receive Medicare and/or Medicaid benefits, for example, which would explain her getting one at age 77. Through the early 1900s, women were naturalized on their husband's naturalization papers. Therefore, Helen may have been naturalized with her husband. I found some of my "missing" relatives and more information on them at the cemetery. When I went to visit the grave of one, I found several buried adjacently. This might be another avenue of research. Best of luck! Barbara Sloan
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What is her name?
jbonline1111@...
I have been researching my grandmother, Chana (Anna) Slonimsky for some time. So far, I have not found any documents that clearly show her birth surname, which may be PASSIN or PASEIN, or some other variant. She was married to Max (Mordche) SLONIMSKY about 1906 (no record found in NYC where they lived) and had three sons, Barnett (later Ben)1907, Philip, 1910 and my father, Louis (later Larry) 1917, whose surname is misspelled on his birth certificate as Slominsky. She appears to have immigrated from Vilna and after Max died, she remarried in the early 1920s to Yankel (Jake) MUSHKAT. She died in 1927. My father said she had no USA relatives other than a cousin or two who immigrated here some time after she did. Her father was Bernaig and her mother Fanny, nee KATZ.
She should not be confused with my great aunt Annie (Slonimsky) Feinstein. I have tried birth certificates, marriage certificates, death certificates, naturalization papers (she is on her second husband's papers), all to no avail. Any suggestions would be grateful received. She should not be confused with my great aunt Annie (Slonimsky) Feinstein. Moderator Note: please reply privately
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Re: Panevezys - Lithuania
#Lithuania
fotolinda
Have you tried reaching out to the Panevezys Jewish Community? https://www.lzb.lt/en/2012/02/27/jewish-community-of-panevezys/
In 2011 I traveled to Poland, Belarus, Lithuania and Moscow and we went to the school that now houses the Panevezys Jewish archives. You could try there.
Linda D. Epstein
searching: Tikotzinski--> Epstein; Safian; Grossman; Weinstein
Moderator Note: please reply privately
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Re: JewishGen.org Discussion Group - Digest #1
#Help
Deborah Scheimer
It would be nice to have a "Translate" button like on Facebook .... - Deb Scheimer Pittsburgh, PA
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Re: photograph stick pins
Frank Schulaner
I must apologize for the repetitive replies. I'm still new at this.
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Re: information abour Nowy Sacz, former Galicia
#Galicia
ssturner@...
try search.geshergalicia.org
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Re: This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page
#YizkorBooks
Dave Lichtenstein
Hello Bruce
A very touching story. Seeing that you have some association with Yizkor books might be a subscriber to the sub-group That being the case you may have seen my recent post titled A Book of Memory of the Jewish Community of Pinczow, Poland I am looking for an English translation of the account on pages 210-212 in relation toThe Beitar and the Revisionist movements in Pinczow by Yechiel Kavshenyevski Do you think that you may be able to assist me with that. Thanks Dave Lichtenstein Sydney, Australia Researching: HERING Town: Pinczow
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Re: SS5 Question for Immigrants
#USA
#Help
#BrickWall
#Poland
Marion Werle
I don't know how late they go (probably depends on the court), but Family Search has US naturalization records from various courts as part of their unindexed collections. I believe you need the certificate number (you can double check the naturalization index records) and the court name/district. I found one from 1951 issued in the Eastern District of New York. Also, according to the Social Security website, noncitizens can have Social Security numbers.
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Correction: Article on Dedication of the Memorial to the Yurburg, Lithuania Jewish Community
#YizkorBooks
Joel Alpert
The dedication of the Synagogue Square Memorial was held on July 19,
2019. This memorial is to honor the former Jewish community of Yurburg. It was initiated by the the town’s Christian mayor, Skirmantas Mockevicius. He found David Zundelovitch, a renowned Lithuanian-Israeli sculptor with family roots in the town, who along with his daughter Anna and son Greg, executed the memorial on a site near where the famous old wooden Yurburg Synagogue, built in the 1790s, once stood. The partners of this project include the Jurbarkas regional municipality, CAN New Artists Collegium, the Litvak community of Lithuania, the Friends of the Yurburg Jewish Cemetery and also many private people. This is a unique memorial in that it was initiated by a Lithuanian! It is the first of its kind. A more complete article appears at: https://azjewishpost.com/2019/lithuanian-descendants-return-for-dedication/ Also see a video of the ceremony at https://youtu.be/Jb1_RrEgjeo Joel Alpert, Chair of the Friends of the Yurburg Jewish Cemetery
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Re: Tracing family in Poland
#Poland
boris@...
Дорогая Айрис,
Спасибо за интересное сообщение. А по-русски нельзя писать? ;-) Борис
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Re: JewishGen.org Discussion Group - Digest #1
#Help
Barbara Mannlein
It would also be helpful if responses included the original email.
I find that reading what are clearly responses very confusing since the email being responded to is not included. Barbara Mannlein Tucson, AZ
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Converso children
#CryptoJewry
Arnold Chamove
(1) If a woman is forced to convert from being Jewish [e.g., "converso" ] either (a) before or (b) after she has had children), can her children claim to be Jewish according to rabbinic interpretation?
(2) if a woman chooses to convert to Judaism either (a) before or (b) after she has children, can her children claim to be Jewish?
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