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travel to Lithuania #lithuania

vallejo45@...
 

I am considering a trip to the Baltic states, primarily to Lithuania,
in the spring, and I would appreciate the assistance of anyone who can
recommend a reliable driver/guide/interpreter. I do not need an archival
researcher. Thank you very much for your help.

Charlie Burns
Houston, Texas USA
vallejo45@comcast.net

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania travel to Lithuania #lithuania

vallejo45@...
 

I am considering a trip to the Baltic states, primarily to Lithuania,
in the spring, and I would appreciate the assistance of anyone who can
recommend a reliable driver/guide/interpreter. I do not need an archival
researcher. Thank you very much for your help.

Charlie Burns
Houston, Texas USA
vallejo45@comcast.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Re: WWI Military Records #hungary

tom
 

"files... remained in the successor states" is the standard response of the
military archives in vienna. but my experience with at least one of my relatives is
that not all ww1 files >from (post trianon) hungary were destroyed. it's worth
checking with the relevant country's archives, if you can.


tom klein, toronto

ericalishahn@yahoo.com wrote:

I recently wrote to an Austrian genealogist with a specialty in the military archives, Johann Hammer, about attempting to locate the WW I military service record of my grandfather who was >from Szabadka Hungary (now Serbia.) I had heard all of the records were in the Austrian military Archives in Vienna. The genealogist wrote back.This is his response.
The Austrian War Archives hold personnel files only for soldiers who are born after 1865 in the territory of present-day Austria.
Files of soldiers born after 1865 outside the territory of present-day Austria remained in the successor states of the Monarchy. Unfortunately, most of those files were destroyed after WWI.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Re: WWI Military Records #hungary

tom
 

"files... remained in the successor states" is the standard response of the
military archives in vienna. but my experience with at least one of my relatives is
that not all ww1 files >from (post trianon) hungary were destroyed. it's worth
checking with the relevant country's archives, if you can.


tom klein, toronto

ericalishahn@yahoo.com wrote:

I recently wrote to an Austrian genealogist with a specialty in the military archives, Johann Hammer, about attempting to locate the WW I military service record of my grandfather who was >from Szabadka Hungary (now Serbia.) I had heard all of the records were in the Austrian military Archives in Vienna. The genealogist wrote back.This is his response.
The Austrian War Archives hold personnel files only for soldiers who are born after 1865 in the territory of present-day Austria.
Files of soldiers born after 1865 outside the territory of present-day Austria remained in the successor states of the Monarchy. Unfortunately, most of those files were destroyed after WWI.


Re: WWI Military Records #hungary

Rivka Horowitz
 

Thank you all for this information. I have learned a lot in the past few d=
ays.

I'm am uncertain which country to begin my research for my
great-uncle's WWI military records. My great-uncle (Moses/Maurizio)
Balin was born in Zbaraz (now Ukraine) in 1875, later married in
Budapest in 1902, then moved and lived in Fiume >from where he was
conscripted into the Austro-Hungarian army (Fiume then became part of
Italy and now it is Rijeka in Croatia). He died in Fiume in 1922 of
war-related injuries. I know his mother's name (Chaje Balin) and have
some pre-war addresses for him in Budapest and Fiume. Any advice
which present-day country I should be searching for his military
records? Hungary? Italy? Croatia?
Thank you all.


Rivka Horowitz
Connecticut, USA


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 2:24 AM Hungarian Roots <info@hungarianroots.com> w=
rote:

Dear all,

A couple of years ago I gave a talk about Hungarian Jews in the military =
at one of the IAJGS conferences (Salt Lake City).

In reality personal files of Hungarian citizens are at the Kriegsarchiv i=
n Vienna. There is a Hungarian group there, a detachment of the Hungarian M=
ilitary History Institute and Museum who can help finding the files.
It is not possible to find records on everyone but if the person was woun=
ded and was in a military hospital/medical care unit or was killed then the=
re may be burial documents by the field chaplain or rabbi, if the person wa=
s decorated, there may also be records. It is not guaranteed they would fin=
d the record but it is worth a try.
You would need your ancestors Hungarian and possibly German name (they wa=
y it may have been spelled at the time) and if possible, full maiden name o=
f mother and place and date (at least year) of birth. These latter are impo=
rtant to pick the right one in case there are several people with the same =
name.


Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/historian/private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: WWI Military Records #hungary

Rivka Horowitz
 

Thank you all for this information. I have learned a lot in the past few d=
ays.

I'm am uncertain which country to begin my research for my
great-uncle's WWI military records. My great-uncle (Moses/Maurizio)
Balin was born in Zbaraz (now Ukraine) in 1875, later married in
Budapest in 1902, then moved and lived in Fiume >from where he was
conscripted into the Austro-Hungarian army (Fiume then became part of
Italy and now it is Rijeka in Croatia). He died in Fiume in 1922 of
war-related injuries. I know his mother's name (Chaje Balin) and have
some pre-war addresses for him in Budapest and Fiume. Any advice
which present-day country I should be searching for his military
records? Hungary? Italy? Croatia?
Thank you all.


Rivka Horowitz
Connecticut, USA


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 2:24 AM Hungarian Roots <info@hungarianroots.com> w=
rote:

Dear all,

A couple of years ago I gave a talk about Hungarian Jews in the military =
at one of the IAJGS conferences (Salt Lake City).

In reality personal files of Hungarian citizens are at the Kriegsarchiv i=
n Vienna. There is a Hungarian group there, a detachment of the Hungarian M=
ilitary History Institute and Museum who can help finding the files.
It is not possible to find records on everyone but if the person was woun=
ded and was in a military hospital/medical care unit or was killed then the=
re may be burial documents by the field chaplain or rabbi, if the person wa=
s decorated, there may also be records. It is not guaranteed they would fin=
d the record but it is worth a try.
You would need your ancestors Hungarian and possibly German name (they wa=
y it may have been spelled at the time) and if possible, full maiden name o=
f mother and place and date (at least year) of birth. These latter are impo=
rtant to pick the right one in case there are several people with the same =
name.


Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/historian/private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950


Re: WWI Military Records #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

Dear all,

A couple of years ago I gave a talk about Hungarian Jews in the military at=
one of the IAJGS conferences (Salt Lake City).

In reality personal files of Hungarian citizens are at the Kriegsarchiv in =
Vienna. There is a Hungarian group there, a detachment of the Hungarian Mil=
itary History Institute and Museum who can help finding the files.
It is not possible to find records on everyone but if the person was wounde=
d and was in a military hospital/medical care unit or was killed then there=
may be burial documents by the field chaplain or rabbi, if the person was =
decorated, there may also be records. It is not guaranteed they would find =
the record but it is worth a try.
You would need your ancestors Hungarian and possibly German name (they way =
it may have been spelled at the time) and if possible, full maiden name of =
mother and place and date (at least year) of birth. These latter are import=
ant to pick the right one in case there are several people with the same na=
me.


Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/historian/private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: WWI Military Records #hungary

HungarianRoots
 

Dear all,

A couple of years ago I gave a talk about Hungarian Jews in the military at=
one of the IAJGS conferences (Salt Lake City).

In reality personal files of Hungarian citizens are at the Kriegsarchiv in =
Vienna. There is a Hungarian group there, a detachment of the Hungarian Mil=
itary History Institute and Museum who can help finding the files.
It is not possible to find records on everyone but if the person was wounde=
d and was in a military hospital/medical care unit or was killed then there=
may be burial documents by the field chaplain or rabbi, if the person was =
decorated, there may also be records. It is not guaranteed they would find =
the record but it is worth a try.
You would need your ancestors Hungarian and possibly German name (they way =
it may have been spelled at the time) and if possible, full maiden name of =
mother and place and date (at least year) of birth. These latter are import=
ant to pick the right one in case there are several people with the same na=
me.


Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/historian/private tour guide

Hungarian Roots
web: www.hungarianroots.com
e-mail: info@hungarianroots.com
cell: +36-30-546-6950


Families next to each other on Revision Lists - possibly related? #general

Simon Zelman
 

I have an 1858 revision list for my HOLZMAN ancestors >from Tukums,
Latvia, which lists my great x4 grandfather Chatskel HOLZMAN, his wife
Schorre/Sora, and children. Sora, unfortunately, doesn't have a maiden
name or a father's name. I went through the 1834 revision lists for
Tukums (which I believe are complete) and noted all of the
Sora/Sara/Schorre's that were listed whose ages matched up (the 1858
one listed Schorre as being 37, so born around 1821).

There were a few candidates but I honed in on one that seemed
promising (the names of the ancestors matched up to Chatskel and
Schorre's children's names, the age was exact). I explored this Sore
TAUB and her family, and found very similar names in her siblings'
descendants as Schorre and Chatskel's descendants. I then went through
the 1858 revision lists and found Sore TAUB's brother Itzig TAUB (and
his family) on the same page as my Chatskel and Schorre's family!

I'm very wary of drawing conclusions without definitive proof, and so
far I just have a lot of probable evidence but no smoking gun. What I
am curious about is if anyone knows the methodology of the revision
lists (the 1858 one specifically). If two families appear next to each
other on a revision list, could that mean that they either lived in
the same house or maybe right next door? Has anyone come across
records in their families where a daughter who marries into another
family appears on a revision list next to her parents (or brother in
this case)? But more specifically, not listed as part of the same
family (the HOLZMANs and TAUBs are treated as different families on
the list--different section, different family number for this
revision, different family number of the previous revision).

1858 Revision (TAUB and HOLZMAN):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qljrz31tsw13tc/1858%20Revision%20List%20Itzig%20TAUB.jpg?dl=0
(MODERATOR: https://tinyurl.com/ydzakg8c )

1834 Revision (TAUB):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oye8m902ptjpesc/1834%20Revision%20List%20TAUB.jpg?dl=0

Thank you!

Best,
Simon Zelman
San Francisco, CA

Researching: DUBROVNA, KANTOR, HOLZMAN, OKUN, BIALOBROTKO, LEVIN,
SLEVICH, AKHIMOV, GOLT, FLEISHER, REIZHEVICH, SHKLIAROVSKY, MIROTSNIK,
ZELMAN, GRUVER, GERSHTEYN, GITELMAN, ALPERIN,


(Hungary) Divers to Search for Bones of Holocaust Victims in Danube in Budapest-_CORRECTION #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

In my recent post about divers searching for remains of Holocaust victims at
the place in the Daube where 20,000 Jews were taken >from the Budapest ghetto
and ordered to remove their shoes and then murdered on the banks of the
Danube I said ZAKA was a Hungarian emergency service. I have been advised
that while both Israeli and Hungarian divers are involved, ZAKA is an
Israeli organization that travels internationally to help when needed.
I apologize for my misstatement.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Families next to each other on Revision Lists - possibly related? #general

Simon Zelman
 

I have an 1858 revision list for my HOLZMAN ancestors >from Tukums,
Latvia, which lists my great x4 grandfather Chatskel HOLZMAN, his wife
Schorre/Sora, and children. Sora, unfortunately, doesn't have a maiden
name or a father's name. I went through the 1834 revision lists for
Tukums (which I believe are complete) and noted all of the
Sora/Sara/Schorre's that were listed whose ages matched up (the 1858
one listed Schorre as being 37, so born around 1821).

There were a few candidates but I honed in on one that seemed
promising (the names of the ancestors matched up to Chatskel and
Schorre's children's names, the age was exact). I explored this Sore
TAUB and her family, and found very similar names in her siblings'
descendants as Schorre and Chatskel's descendants. I then went through
the 1858 revision lists and found Sore TAUB's brother Itzig TAUB (and
his family) on the same page as my Chatskel and Schorre's family!

I'm very wary of drawing conclusions without definitive proof, and so
far I just have a lot of probable evidence but no smoking gun. What I
am curious about is if anyone knows the methodology of the revision
lists (the 1858 one specifically). If two families appear next to each
other on a revision list, could that mean that they either lived in
the same house or maybe right next door? Has anyone come across
records in their families where a daughter who marries into another
family appears on a revision list next to her parents (or brother in
this case)? But more specifically, not listed as part of the same
family (the HOLZMANs and TAUBs are treated as different families on
the list--different section, different family number for this
revision, different family number of the previous revision).

1858 Revision (TAUB and HOLZMAN):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qljrz31tsw13tc/1858%20Revision%20List%20Itzig%20TAUB.jpg?dl=0
(MODERATOR: https://tinyurl.com/ydzakg8c )

1834 Revision (TAUB):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oye8m902ptjpesc/1834%20Revision%20List%20TAUB.jpg?dl=0

Thank you!

Best,
Simon Zelman
San Francisco, CA

Researching: DUBROVNA, KANTOR, HOLZMAN, OKUN, BIALOBROTKO, LEVIN,
SLEVICH, AKHIMOV, GOLT, FLEISHER, REIZHEVICH, SHKLIAROVSKY, MIROTSNIK,
ZELMAN, GRUVER, GERSHTEYN, GITELMAN, ALPERIN,


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Hungary) Divers to Search for Bones of Holocaust Victims in Danube in Budapest-_CORRECTION #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

In my recent post about divers searching for remains of Holocaust victims at
the place in the Daube where 20,000 Jews were taken >from the Budapest ghetto
and ordered to remove their shoes and then murdered on the banks of the
Danube I said ZAKA was a Hungarian emergency service. I have been advised
that while both Israeli and Hungarian divers are involved, ZAKA is an
Israeli organization that travels internationally to help when needed.
I apologize for my misstatement.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Book "In The Nesvizh Ghetto and Naliboki Forest" by David Farfel translated into English is available #general

Steve Stein
 

I am pleased to announce that the English translation of the memoir of David
Farfel, "In The Nesvizh Ghetto and Naliboki Forest," which I announced in a
post a couple of months ago, has been published and is available for
purchase. It was translated by Benjamin Schuster, and edited by Zvi
Farfel, the author's son. It is the only authorized version of the book.

This book was originally published in Hebrew in 1995. It is an important
work >from both a historical and genealogical perspective as a first-hand
account of the author's experiences before, during and after the war as a
family member, worker, resident of the Nesvizh ghetto, partisan fighter, and
resident of DP camps, and mentions many individuals both well-known and not
well-known involved in the author's journey. It centers on the author's life
in Nesvizh, Belarus (Poland before the war) but is relevant to anyone
interested in the region or in matters regarding the partisans.

To obtain the book, please contact Zvi Farfel at farfel@post.tau.ac.il.

Steve Stein
KehilaLinks coordinator for Nyasvizh, Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Book "In The Nesvizh Ghetto and Naliboki Forest" by David Farfel translated into English is available #general

Steve Stein
 

I am pleased to announce that the English translation of the memoir of David
Farfel, "In The Nesvizh Ghetto and Naliboki Forest," which I announced in a
post a couple of months ago, has been published and is available for
purchase. It was translated by Benjamin Schuster, and edited by Zvi
Farfel, the author's son. It is the only authorized version of the book.

This book was originally published in Hebrew in 1995. It is an important
work >from both a historical and genealogical perspective as a first-hand
account of the author's experiences before, during and after the war as a
family member, worker, resident of the Nesvizh ghetto, partisan fighter, and
resident of DP camps, and mentions many individuals both well-known and not
well-known involved in the author's journey. It centers on the author's life
in Nesvizh, Belarus (Poland before the war) but is relevant to anyone
interested in the region or in matters regarding the partisans.

To obtain the book, please contact Zvi Farfel at farfel@post.tau.ac.il.

Steve Stein
KehilaLinks coordinator for Nyasvizh, Belarus


Question About Yiddish Author Jacob Dinezon #general

Scott Davis
 

For the past several years I have been researching the life and career
of the renowned 19th-century Yiddish author Jacob Dinezon (Yankev
Dineson, Dinesohn, Dienesohn) who died in Warsaw on August 29, 1919 (3
Elul 5639). This year, 2019, marks Dinezon's 100th yortsayt.

During the final 25 years or so of his life, Dinezon lived with his sister
and her family (including two daughters) at Dzielna No. 15 and Karmelicka No. 29
in Warsaw. His sister apparently owned a shop that sold "fancy pens."

Although she is referred to in the Warsaw Yiddish newspaper at the
time of his death, as hard as I've tried, I have not been able to come
up with Dinezon's sister's name. As an avid reader of the JewishGen
Discussion Group, I am hoping that someone here might be able to offer
some information or additional avenues for research.

Thank you so much for any thoughts and suggestions.

Scott Davis
scott@jacobdinezon.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only please.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Question About Yiddish Author Jacob Dinezon #general

Scott Davis
 

For the past several years I have been researching the life and career
of the renowned 19th-century Yiddish author Jacob Dinezon (Yankev
Dineson, Dinesohn, Dienesohn) who died in Warsaw on August 29, 1919 (3
Elul 5639). This year, 2019, marks Dinezon's 100th yortsayt.

During the final 25 years or so of his life, Dinezon lived with his sister
and her family (including two daughters) at Dzielna No. 15 and Karmelicka No. 29
in Warsaw. His sister apparently owned a shop that sold "fancy pens."

Although she is referred to in the Warsaw Yiddish newspaper at the
time of his death, as hard as I've tried, I have not been able to come
up with Dinezon's sister's name. As an avid reader of the JewishGen
Discussion Group, I am hoping that someone here might be able to offer
some information or additional avenues for research.

Thank you so much for any thoughts and suggestions.

Scott Davis
scott@jacobdinezon.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only please.


Fildu records #romania

I Weber <ew4147@...>
 

Does anyone know where to find records for the villages Fildu
in Salaj county?

They are three villages together,Fildu de Mijloc,Fildu de
jos and Fildu de Sus, they are not far >from Cluj county.
I had ancestors intwo of them.

Yisroel Weber
New York USA


Romania SIG #Romania Fildu records #romania

I Weber <ew4147@...>
 

Does anyone know where to find records for the villages Fildu
in Salaj county?

They are three villages together,Fildu de Mijloc,Fildu de
jos and Fildu de Sus, they are not far >from Cluj county.
I had ancestors intwo of them.

Yisroel Weber
New York USA


JewishGen's message archives and archive search engines are not working #germany

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

JewishGen reports that the SIG and separate JewishGen Email Discussion
Group (JGDG) message archives and archive search engines are not working.

No repair date estimate is now available. When JewishGen manages to restore
these resources and so inform SIG moderators the restoration will be
announced here.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC JPL25@Cornell.edu


German SIG #Germany JewishGen's message archives and archive search engines are not working #germany

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

JewishGen reports that the SIG and separate JewishGen Email Discussion
Group (JGDG) message archives and archive search engines are not working.

No repair date estimate is now available. When JewishGen manages to restore
these resources and so inform SIG moderators the restoration will be
announced here.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC JPL25@Cornell.edu

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