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Rabbi Yakov "Kopel Hasid" HAGER (Abt. 1730 - 1787), the TaZ and Tosafot Yom Tov #galicia

Aaron Slotnik
 

Hello,

In the course of researching Rabbi Yakov HAGER of Kolomea (also known
as Yakov Kopel Hasid), I have several questions that I'm hoping members
of this forum can assist in resolving.

Regarding his descendants, one of his sons is the well-known Rabbi
Menachem Mendel HAGER (1768 - 1825), father of the Kosover and
Vizhnitzer Hasidic dynasties. He also had a daughter named Blima who
married Rabbi Uri Strelisker (1757 - 1826). I've read that he had another
son, presumably older than R' Menachem Mendel, named Rabbi Yitzchak
Itzik. Does anyone know any additional information about this son or can
point me to sources to consult to learn about him? Does he have an entry
in Meorei Galicia?

Regarding his ancestors, there is very good, seemingly well-researched
and reliable information about him in the Kolomea (Kolomyya, Ukraine)
yizkor book at
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/kolomyya/kol096.html#Page112
in entry 13. The author of that section, a descendant of rabbis himself,
lists the sources he used in general but does not provide specific source
citations for each entry. He states that Rabbi Yakov Kopel's wife Chaya is a
descendant of the TaZ son Rabbi Shlomo HaLevi Segal (d. 1664) and the
Tosafot Yom Tov's sister Perl; however, assuming that is correct there
seems to be a generation or possibly two missing in each case. Can
anyone provide the correct line of descent or point me to sources that
may help clarify?

Finally, one way of interpreting the entry implies that Rabbi Kopel Hasid's
father Rabbi Nechemiah Feivel and his wife's father Rabbi Zalman were
brothers ("...Rabbi, Reb Zalman, who was also the uncle and father-in-law
of the above mentioned Rabbi, Reb Kopl Hasid..."). I suspect that is
incorrect, but that is how it is depicted on Geni. Can anyone clarify that
point?

Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide!

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL

ZLOTNIK, RZEZNIK - Nowy Dwor Mazowiecki, Zakroczym, and Nasielsk,
Poland; SCHAPIRA - Jagielnica and Horodenka, Ukraine; BLUMENTHAL,
KANTOR, TREISTER, ELLENBOGEN - Borshchiv, Husiatyn and Horodenka,
Ukraine; WOROSHILSKY - Bialystok area, Poland; GOLDBERG, KATZ -
Dabrowa Bialostocka, Poland; BLUM, KATZ, MARTON, LIEBERMANN,
ELKOVITS, VAISZ, SAMUEL - Salaj, Satu Mare, and Maramures Counties, Romania


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Rabbi Yakov "Kopel Hasid" HAGER (Abt. 1730 - 1787), the TaZ and Tosafot Yom Tov #galicia

Aaron Slotnik
 

Hello,

In the course of researching Rabbi Yakov HAGER of Kolomea (also known
as Yakov Kopel Hasid), I have several questions that I'm hoping members
of this forum can assist in resolving.

Regarding his descendants, one of his sons is the well-known Rabbi
Menachem Mendel HAGER (1768 - 1825), father of the Kosover and
Vizhnitzer Hasidic dynasties. He also had a daughter named Blima who
married Rabbi Uri Strelisker (1757 - 1826). I've read that he had another
son, presumably older than R' Menachem Mendel, named Rabbi Yitzchak
Itzik. Does anyone know any additional information about this son or can
point me to sources to consult to learn about him? Does he have an entry
in Meorei Galicia?

Regarding his ancestors, there is very good, seemingly well-researched
and reliable information about him in the Kolomea (Kolomyya, Ukraine)
yizkor book at
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/kolomyya/kol096.html#Page112
in entry 13. The author of that section, a descendant of rabbis himself,
lists the sources he used in general but does not provide specific source
citations for each entry. He states that Rabbi Yakov Kopel's wife Chaya is a
descendant of the TaZ son Rabbi Shlomo HaLevi Segal (d. 1664) and the
Tosafot Yom Tov's sister Perl; however, assuming that is correct there
seems to be a generation or possibly two missing in each case. Can
anyone provide the correct line of descent or point me to sources that
may help clarify?

Finally, one way of interpreting the entry implies that Rabbi Kopel Hasid's
father Rabbi Nechemiah Feivel and his wife's father Rabbi Zalman were
brothers ("...Rabbi, Reb Zalman, who was also the uncle and father-in-law
of the above mentioned Rabbi, Reb Kopl Hasid..."). I suspect that is
incorrect, but that is how it is depicted on Geni. Can anyone clarify that
point?

Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide!

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL

ZLOTNIK, RZEZNIK - Nowy Dwor Mazowiecki, Zakroczym, and Nasielsk,
Poland; SCHAPIRA - Jagielnica and Horodenka, Ukraine; BLUMENTHAL,
KANTOR, TREISTER, ELLENBOGEN - Borshchiv, Husiatyn and Horodenka,
Ukraine; WOROSHILSKY - Bialystok area, Poland; GOLDBERG, KATZ -
Dabrowa Bialostocka, Poland; BLUM, KATZ, MARTON, LIEBERMANN,
ELKOVITS, VAISZ, SAMUEL - Salaj, Satu Mare, and Maramures Counties, Romania


(UK) Kitchner Camp Website for Descendants of WWll Kitchner Camp Refugees #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

European Jews scattered across Europe and elsewhere with the rise of Nazis
in Germany. One place the Jewish refugees fled was to the Kitchner Camp in
England, near Sandwich, created in early 1939. The camp housed 4,000 German,
Austrian and Czech male refugees between February 1939 and when it closed in
May 1940. Inmates were only accepted if they could prove they were in
transit elsewhere. There are no records who left England or where they went.
Many went to North and South America.

A website has been created to provide information about the men who passed
through the Kitchner Camp. Information includes a list of names,
photographs. Documents, letters and more. The website may be access at:
http://www.kitchenercamp.co.uk/ and will be run by the Weiner Library in London.

If you know someone who passed through the Camp they would like to hear from
you. Please share any documents you may have at:
https://tinyurl.com/y2x72tpg
Original url:
https://www.ehri-project.eu/sites/default/files/downloads/ktichener-camp-call.pdf

To read more including what the German Jewish authorities required to be
selected for the camp see: https://tinyurl.com/y37fj3hh
Original url:
https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2019/03/website-available-for-descendants-of-wwii-kitchener-camp-refugees.html

Thank you to Saul Issroff for sharing the information with us.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (UK) Kitchner Camp Website for Descendants of WWll Kitchner Camp Refugees #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

European Jews scattered across Europe and elsewhere with the rise of Nazis
in Germany. One place the Jewish refugees fled was to the Kitchner Camp in
England, near Sandwich, created in early 1939. The camp housed 4,000 German,
Austrian and Czech male refugees between February 1939 and when it closed in
May 1940. Inmates were only accepted if they could prove they were in
transit elsewhere. There are no records who left England or where they went.
Many went to North and South America.

A website has been created to provide information about the men who passed
through the Kitchner Camp. Information includes a list of names,
photographs. Documents, letters and more. The website may be access at:
http://www.kitchenercamp.co.uk/ and will be run by the Weiner Library in London.

If you know someone who passed through the Camp they would like to hear from
you. Please share any documents you may have at:
https://tinyurl.com/y2x72tpg
Original url:
https://www.ehri-project.eu/sites/default/files/downloads/ktichener-camp-call.pdf

To read more including what the German Jewish authorities required to be
selected for the camp see: https://tinyurl.com/y37fj3hh
Original url:
https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2019/03/website-available-for-descendants-of-wwii-kitchener-camp-refugees.html

Thank you to Saul Issroff for sharing the information with us.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Two new lists of Jewish residents of Mogilev gubernia #belarus

Shlomo Gurevich
 

A list of Jewish public workers and a list of Jewish professionals and
businessmen in Mogilev Gubernia extracted >from Mogilev Gubernia Memory Books
published in 1864-1916 were added to my website at


http://shl2gur.tripod.com/Mogilevgubernia/Mogilevgub.htm



Shlomo Gurvevich
Hoshaya, Israel

shl2gur@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus Two new lists of Jewish residents of Mogilev gubernia #belarus

Shlomo Gurevich
 

A list of Jewish public workers and a list of Jewish professionals and
businessmen in Mogilev Gubernia extracted >from Mogilev Gubernia Memory Books
published in 1864-1916 were added to my website at


http://shl2gur.tripod.com/Mogilevgubernia/Mogilevgub.htm



Shlomo Gurvevich
Hoshaya, Israel

shl2gur@...


Searching for Buczacz Records #galicia

Rachel Goldberg <rachel.goldberg100@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I am trying to collect information about the family of my grandfather
David GOLDBERG ahead of a visit to his town. He was born in Buczacz
(Buchach) on 22/1/1908 and lived there until 1935 when he moved to
Israel with his three siblings (Wolf/Zeev, Yechiel, and Rivka), and
parents (Aaron and Taube). Together with his two brothers and father,
the family had a carpentry in Buczacz, which >from what I understood
was pretty well known. They later opened their carpentry in Haifa,
Israel. Buczacz records seems to be pretty difficult to track, so any
information about their whereabouts would be appreciated.

My family and I are planning to visit Buczacz this summer and was
hoping to gather as much information as possible before our trip. I am
currently looking for (1) Any records that may indicate the exact
family address on Kolejowa street - this is my highest priority at the
moment (2) Any vital records of my grandfather, as well as his three
older siblings and their parents (3) Documents that could shed any
light on the family business in Buczacz.

from my research so far I understood that Buczacz records might be
available at the USC office in Warsaw. Here are my questions:

1) Could you recommend a local researcher who could search this
archive on my family's behalf before our arrival to Buczacz?

2) I have seen in a previous post in this group >from last March that
some Buczacz birth records were recently transferred >from the USC
to AGAD. Is it possible to search in this records collection, and will it
be available online in the near future?

3) Is it possible that some relevant documents will be available in
any local Ukraine archives? If so, could you recommend someone who
will be able to search them before our arrival?

The only document of my grandfather that I do have at the moment is
a school certificate >from Kleinmuenchen in Austria, where the family
stayed during WW1, and later went back to Buczacz.

Thank you for your help,

Rachel Goldberg
Tel Aviv, Israel


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Searching for Buczacz Records #galicia

Rachel Goldberg <rachel.goldberg100@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I am trying to collect information about the family of my grandfather
David GOLDBERG ahead of a visit to his town. He was born in Buczacz
(Buchach) on 22/1/1908 and lived there until 1935 when he moved to
Israel with his three siblings (Wolf/Zeev, Yechiel, and Rivka), and
parents (Aaron and Taube). Together with his two brothers and father,
the family had a carpentry in Buczacz, which >from what I understood
was pretty well known. They later opened their carpentry in Haifa,
Israel. Buczacz records seems to be pretty difficult to track, so any
information about their whereabouts would be appreciated.

My family and I are planning to visit Buczacz this summer and was
hoping to gather as much information as possible before our trip. I am
currently looking for (1) Any records that may indicate the exact
family address on Kolejowa street - this is my highest priority at the
moment (2) Any vital records of my grandfather, as well as his three
older siblings and their parents (3) Documents that could shed any
light on the family business in Buczacz.

from my research so far I understood that Buczacz records might be
available at the USC office in Warsaw. Here are my questions:

1) Could you recommend a local researcher who could search this
archive on my family's behalf before our arrival to Buczacz?

2) I have seen in a previous post in this group >from last March that
some Buczacz birth records were recently transferred >from the USC
to AGAD. Is it possible to search in this records collection, and will it
be available online in the near future?

3) Is it possible that some relevant documents will be available in
any local Ukraine archives? If so, could you recommend someone who
will be able to search them before our arrival?

The only document of my grandfather that I do have at the moment is
a school certificate >from Kleinmuenchen in Austria, where the family
stayed during WW1, and later went back to Buczacz.

Thank you for your help,

Rachel Goldberg
Tel Aviv, Israel


Re: Jumping matches? #dna

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

To answer Daniel Weinberger question why parents/children
matching/nonmatching relationships, below is a simple answer:
Half of everyone DNA came >from each of their parent. When one pass their
DNA to each of their children, only half of their is pass. Therefore
there is only 1/4 chance that a matching segment of DNA between two
people, that segment is not pass on to both matching people's child.
However the two children could match each other on other segments of DNA
from their non-matching parents.
Sidney Sachs
Lorton, VA


DNA Research #DNA Re: Jumping matches? #dna

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

To answer Daniel Weinberger question why parents/children
matching/nonmatching relationships, below is a simple answer:
Half of everyone DNA came >from each of their parent. When one pass their
DNA to each of their children, only half of their is pass. Therefore
there is only 1/4 chance that a matching segment of DNA between two
people, that segment is not pass on to both matching people's child.
However the two children could match each other on other segments of DNA
from their non-matching parents.
Sidney Sachs
Lorton, VA


Re: Argentinian immigration records #general

Moshe Davis
 

Many of the Jewish immigrants to South America in the late 1800s - early 1900s came
through the Jewish Colonization Association of Baron Moshe Hirsch.

The Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People (CAHJS) in
Jerusalem contains the archives of the Paris headquarters of the
Jewish Colonization Association. You might be able to find records
there. I was able to find a number of records of my great-grandfather
and his brother and their families, who lived in the JCA colony
Mauricio in Argentina in the early 1890s.

I was also able to find records of their departure >from Argentina on
the "Hamburg Passenger Lists" manifests.

Hope this helps,
Moshe Davis
Jerusalem

Marion E Werle werleme@... wrote:

Another source of immigration information, in addition to Daniel Horowitz's
suggestion is the collection called "Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934" on
Ancestry.com, which includes ships destined for Argentina. I found a relative of
mine headed to Buenos Aires >from Latvia listed in that collection. If you don't
have a world subscription, you can access it at either a public library or
FamilySearch center.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Argentinian immigration records #general

Moshe Davis
 

Many of the Jewish immigrants to South America in the late 1800s - early 1900s came
through the Jewish Colonization Association of Baron Moshe Hirsch.

The Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People (CAHJS) in
Jerusalem contains the archives of the Paris headquarters of the
Jewish Colonization Association. You might be able to find records
there. I was able to find a number of records of my great-grandfather
and his brother and their families, who lived in the JCA colony
Mauricio in Argentina in the early 1890s.

I was also able to find records of their departure >from Argentina on
the "Hamburg Passenger Lists" manifests.

Hope this helps,
Moshe Davis
Jerusalem

Marion E Werle werleme@... wrote:

Another source of immigration information, in addition to Daniel Horowitz's
suggestion is the collection called "Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934" on
Ancestry.com, which includes ships destined for Argentina. I found a relative of
mine headed to Buenos Aires >from Latvia listed in that collection. If you don't
have a world subscription, you can access it at either a public library or
FamilySearch center.


RootsTech 2019 12 More Sessions Available to View for Free #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Earlier this month I posted about the 22 keynote and Livestream sessions at
RootsTech 2019 available to view for free. Now they have added 12 additional
sessions that may be viewed for free:

A list of all the sessions that are available for free viewing are available
at: https://www.rootstech.org/category/2019-rootstech-sessions
The new ones may be identified by the March 21, 2019 date indicating when
they were added.

Thank you to Gail Dever and Genealogy a la carte for informing us about the
additional sessions.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RootsTech 2019 12 More Sessions Available to View for Free #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Earlier this month I posted about the 22 keynote and Livestream sessions at
RootsTech 2019 available to view for free. Now they have added 12 additional
sessions that may be viewed for free:

A list of all the sessions that are available for free viewing are available
at: https://www.rootstech.org/category/2019-rootstech-sessions
The new ones may be identified by the March 21, 2019 date indicating when
they were added.

Thank you to Gail Dever and Genealogy a la carte for informing us about the
additional sessions.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Central Committee of Jewish Colonization Society certificate #general

Alan Shuchat
 

YIVO has records that might be helpful to you, but you might need
someone in New York to do the research for you. See this link:

http://digifindingaids.cjh.org/?pID=131234

Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka),Tavrig,
Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)

From: mike yesnes <eaglebrother55447@...>
Have certificate copy that was given by the Central Committee of Jewish
Colonization Society to a a specific Jewish migrant in 191? year.This occurred
on or before 1913. This person arrived in the USA in 1913.
This paper proved that this Jewish migrant was moving out of Russia with the
help of the Central Committee of Jewish Colonization Society...
Anybody know who to e-mail/contact about if there are archives records of
these certificates to maybe look up if your relatives had these papers?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Central Committee of Jewish Colonization Society certificate #general

Alan Shuchat
 

YIVO has records that might be helpful to you, but you might need
someone in New York to do the research for you. See this link:

http://digifindingaids.cjh.org/?pID=131234

Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka),Tavrig,
Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)

From: mike yesnes <eaglebrother55447@...>
Have certificate copy that was given by the Central Committee of Jewish
Colonization Society to a a specific Jewish migrant in 191? year.This occurred
on or before 1913. This person arrived in the USA in 1913.
This paper proved that this Jewish migrant was moving out of Russia with the
help of the Central Committee of Jewish Colonization Society...
Anybody know who to e-mail/contact about if there are archives records of
these certificates to maybe look up if your relatives had these papers?


Town Research Projects #general

Tony Hausner
 

Our Skala Research Group is pursuing several projects that we would appreciate
advice.

1) Several people in our Skala Research Group will be visiting Skala Podolskaya
(Eastern Galicia) this summer. I am suggesting that they talk with folks there
who were alive at the time of the holocaust and ask them what happened.What
questions do you suggest we ask and any other advice on how to interview them, how
to approach them, etc.

2) The cemetery wall that was built by the Skala Benevolent Society in 1998 has
deteriorated. We are checking to see if it has stabilized or continues to
deteriorate. If it needs further work, what suggestions do you have for dealing
with this. Make patches to the wall, replace wall, put up iron posts which some
towns have done, etc.

3) We want to interview of few of the members of our group who were born in Skala
and survived the holocaust. Welcome suggestions on interview questionnaires.

4) We have many files of data, etc. We do not want to put all of that on our town
website, but perhaps a link to another website. Right now we have on the google
drive of one of our members. members. What do you suggest as a more general site.
We could create a google drive for our town or a dropbox site.

5) Sharing family trees.We would like to share family trees and DNA results
privately and not publicly. Suggestions.

Tony Hausner Silver Spring, MD 20901 (primary email address: thausner@...)

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only please.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Town Research Projects #general

Tony Hausner
 

Our Skala Research Group is pursuing several projects that we would appreciate
advice.

1) Several people in our Skala Research Group will be visiting Skala Podolskaya
(Eastern Galicia) this summer. I am suggesting that they talk with folks there
who were alive at the time of the holocaust and ask them what happened.What
questions do you suggest we ask and any other advice on how to interview them, how
to approach them, etc.

2) The cemetery wall that was built by the Skala Benevolent Society in 1998 has
deteriorated. We are checking to see if it has stabilized or continues to
deteriorate. If it needs further work, what suggestions do you have for dealing
with this. Make patches to the wall, replace wall, put up iron posts which some
towns have done, etc.

3) We want to interview of few of the members of our group who were born in Skala
and survived the holocaust. Welcome suggestions on interview questionnaires.

4) We have many files of data, etc. We do not want to put all of that on our town
website, but perhaps a link to another website. Right now we have on the google
drive of one of our members. members. What do you suggest as a more general site.
We could create a google drive for our town or a dropbox site.

5) Sharing family trees.We would like to share family trees and DNA results
privately and not publicly. Suggestions.

Tony Hausner Silver Spring, MD 20901 (primary email address: thausner@...)

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only please.


In 1904, did an immigrant need to be personally met upon arrival in Philly? #general

Martha Forsyth
 

I've had a small mystery niggling away at me for a long time now. My
paternal grandfather Abraham SHECTER was not immediately admitted when
he arrived in Philadelphia on July 4 or 5, 1905. There's a big X by his
name on the ship manifest. He does not appear in the Special Inquiry
section either, but I know that he did arrive on that ship, and was not
sent home (even though there's some notation about "Send home by
[illegible]"). Now, here's the cute part: I learned that the person
whom he was going to (Simon GOLD) was no longer living at the address
shown on my gf's ship manifest. (How did I learn this? Simon's wife
Bessie arrived four months before my grandfather did; on Bessie's
manifest, Simon's address was originally given as the same as on my gf's
manifest, but on Bessie's manifest that was crossed out and replaced by
a different address.) (This is complex; if anyone wants to see
pictures, I can provide them.)

This all caused me to develop a little theory: maybe Simon was not
waiting to meet Abraham's ship, and they couldn't find him right away,
and that explains the X (I don't know if they even attempted to find
people, if they didn't show up themselves). But since my gf did com on
that ship, maybe Simon showed up a little late?

Today I was reading about HIAS, and noticed that they "also found
relatives of detained immigrants. Six hundred immigrants were detained
during just one month in 1917 because they had neither money nor friends
to claim them." This caught my attention, because of my grandfather's
situation. And I realized that I simply do not know: if there was no
one to meet an immigrant and he didn't have money, what happened?

Can anyone enllighten me?

Martha (Schecter) FORSYTH
Newton, MA
Researching SHEKHTER and TELISHEVSKY >from Homel and Cherikov (Belarus);
married in Ekaterinoslav, so maybe at least one of them also lived there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen In 1904, did an immigrant need to be personally met upon arrival in Philly? #general

Martha Forsyth
 

I've had a small mystery niggling away at me for a long time now. My
paternal grandfather Abraham SHECTER was not immediately admitted when
he arrived in Philadelphia on July 4 or 5, 1905. There's a big X by his
name on the ship manifest. He does not appear in the Special Inquiry
section either, but I know that he did arrive on that ship, and was not
sent home (even though there's some notation about "Send home by
[illegible]"). Now, here's the cute part: I learned that the person
whom he was going to (Simon GOLD) was no longer living at the address
shown on my gf's ship manifest. (How did I learn this? Simon's wife
Bessie arrived four months before my grandfather did; on Bessie's
manifest, Simon's address was originally given as the same as on my gf's
manifest, but on Bessie's manifest that was crossed out and replaced by
a different address.) (This is complex; if anyone wants to see
pictures, I can provide them.)

This all caused me to develop a little theory: maybe Simon was not
waiting to meet Abraham's ship, and they couldn't find him right away,
and that explains the X (I don't know if they even attempted to find
people, if they didn't show up themselves). But since my gf did com on
that ship, maybe Simon showed up a little late?

Today I was reading about HIAS, and noticed that they "also found
relatives of detained immigrants. Six hundred immigrants were detained
during just one month in 1917 because they had neither money nor friends
to claim them." This caught my attention, because of my grandfather's
situation. And I realized that I simply do not know: if there was no
one to meet an immigrant and he didn't have money, what happened?

Can anyone enllighten me?

Martha (Schecter) FORSYTH
Newton, MA
Researching SHEKHTER and TELISHEVSKY >from Homel and Cherikov (Belarus);
married in Ekaterinoslav, so maybe at least one of them also lived there.