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Re: Help Identifying a Town in Hungary #hungary

lesliedrewharris@...
 

Dear Fellow Hungarian SIG Members:

My maternal grandfather emigrated to the U.S. in 1916 >from Hungary.
On his World War I draft registration card, he wrote that his father
was born in Gosza, Hungary. (This was in his handwriting, and I am
identifying the letters >from other words written on the rest of that
card. I am pretty confident that I am reading the letters correctly,
although I am not 100% sure.)

My grandfather was born in 1896. I have been unable to locate a town
called Gosza that would have existed in the 1870s to 1880s in Hungary.

Does anyone know what town in Hungary my grandfather might have been
referring to?

Thank you for any help you can provide.

Leslie


On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:03 AM Leslie Harris
<lesliedrewharris@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Fellow Hungarian SIG Members:

My maternal grandfather emigrated to the U.S. in 1916 >from Hungary. On h=
is World War I draft registration card, he wrote that his father was born i=
n Gosza, Hungary. (This was in his handwriting, and I am identifying the l=
etters >from other words written on the rest of that card. I am pretty conf=
ident that I am reading the letters correctly, although I am not 100% sure.=
)

My grandfather was born in 1896. I have been unable to locate a town cal=
led Gosza that would have existed in the 1870s to 1880s in Hungary.

Does anyone know what town in Hungary my grandfather might have been refe=
rring to?

Thank you for any help you can provide.

Leslie



Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Help Identifying a Town in Hungary #hungary

lesliedrewharris@...
 

Dear Fellow Hungarian SIG Members:

My maternal grandfather emigrated to the U.S. in 1916 >from Hungary.
On his World War I draft registration card, he wrote that his father
was born in Gosza, Hungary. (This was in his handwriting, and I am
identifying the letters >from other words written on the rest of that
card. I am pretty confident that I am reading the letters correctly,
although I am not 100% sure.)

My grandfather was born in 1896. I have been unable to locate a town
called Gosza that would have existed in the 1870s to 1880s in Hungary.

Does anyone know what town in Hungary my grandfather might have been
referring to?

Thank you for any help you can provide.

Leslie


On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 9:03 AM Leslie Harris
<lesliedrewharris@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Fellow Hungarian SIG Members:

My maternal grandfather emigrated to the U.S. in 1916 >from Hungary. On h=
is World War I draft registration card, he wrote that his father was born i=
n Gosza, Hungary. (This was in his handwriting, and I am identifying the l=
etters >from other words written on the rest of that card. I am pretty conf=
ident that I am reading the letters correctly, although I am not 100% sure.=
)

My grandfather was born in 1896. I have been unable to locate a town cal=
led Gosza that would have existed in the 1870s to 1880s in Hungary.

Does anyone know what town in Hungary my grandfather might have been refe=
rring to?

Thank you for any help you can provide.

Leslie



Searching for family of Hermina (Minnie) REICHER and Florian SCHWARTZ #hungary

Hilary Osofsky
 

We are searching for the family of my great-grandmother's sister, Hermina (=
Minnie) REICHER and her husband, Florian SCHWARTZ. We are hoping that famil=
y members might be able to assist us in identifying a family photograph tak=
en in Hungary in the early 1890's.

Minnie was born to Kati STEINER and Jakob REICHER in Hungary (possibly Bene=
dekfalu > Benadikova) 01 Jan 1871 and died 24 Mar 1947 in Bronx, New York.

She married Florian Schwartz 24 May 1894 in Kings County, New York. Togethe=
r they had children Jacob, Milton, Frieda (Florence), and Henry, all born i=
n Manhattan between 1895 and 1903.


In the U.S., they were joined by Minnie's siblings Lina, Markos, Sarah, Jos=
ef, and=C2=A0 Marcus (Mark), a painter who lived in Piscataway, New Jersey.


Florian emigrated to the U.S. in 1890. His parents were Rosie LACKNER and J=
acob SCHWARTZ; they had 11 children.


Minnie and Florian lived and worked in New York City, where they owned a la=
undry business.


Their son Jacob married Eva Stockman and had daughters Rita (married [-] Ka=
len?) and Susan. Jacob was a machinist.


Daughter Frieda (Florence) married Irving R Weinberg, who was born in Guate=
mala and=C2=A0 worked for a wholesale dyed yarn company. Their son was Rich=
ard.



Henry was a taxi cab driver.


Please respond privately.


Thank you.


Hilary Osofsky
Orinda, California

Moderator: Please send private messages to Hilary as requested.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Searching for family of Hermina (Minnie) REICHER and Florian SCHWARTZ #hungary

Hilary Osofsky
 

We are searching for the family of my great-grandmother's sister, Hermina (=
Minnie) REICHER and her husband, Florian SCHWARTZ. We are hoping that famil=
y members might be able to assist us in identifying a family photograph tak=
en in Hungary in the early 1890's.

Minnie was born to Kati STEINER and Jakob REICHER in Hungary (possibly Bene=
dekfalu > Benadikova) 01 Jan 1871 and died 24 Mar 1947 in Bronx, New York.

She married Florian Schwartz 24 May 1894 in Kings County, New York. Togethe=
r they had children Jacob, Milton, Frieda (Florence), and Henry, all born i=
n Manhattan between 1895 and 1903.


In the U.S., they were joined by Minnie's siblings Lina, Markos, Sarah, Jos=
ef, and=C2=A0 Marcus (Mark), a painter who lived in Piscataway, New Jersey.


Florian emigrated to the U.S. in 1890. His parents were Rosie LACKNER and J=
acob SCHWARTZ; they had 11 children.


Minnie and Florian lived and worked in New York City, where they owned a la=
undry business.


Their son Jacob married Eva Stockman and had daughters Rita (married [-] Ka=
len?) and Susan. Jacob was a machinist.


Daughter Frieda (Florence) married Irving R Weinberg, who was born in Guate=
mala and=C2=A0 worked for a wholesale dyed yarn company. Their son was Rich=
ard.



Henry was a taxi cab driver.


Please respond privately.


Thank you.


Hilary Osofsky
Orinda, California

Moderator: Please send private messages to Hilary as requested.


Copies of birth marriage death records #hungary

arnold friedman
 

hi,

I am new with the hungarian sig. Though the index, i have found
family several records that say the source is the slovak state archive
kosice and >from LDS (for example lds 642,727). How do i get a copy of
the original records?

Regards,

Arnold Friedman

Moderator: LDS records are available >from FamilySearch.org. Slovak Archive records
will have links to images at sometime in the future.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Copies of birth marriage death records #hungary

arnold friedman
 

hi,

I am new with the hungarian sig. Though the index, i have found
family several records that say the source is the slovak state archive
kosice and >from LDS (for example lds 642,727). How do i get a copy of
the original records?

Regards,

Arnold Friedman

Moderator: LDS records are available >from FamilySearch.org. Slovak Archive records
will have links to images at sometime in the future.


Subotica research. #hungary

ericalishahn@...
 

As someone who has done a lot of research re Jews in Szabadka I would have to say it is not easy. Most records are not on line. There is at the Subotica Archives a file of rabbinical vital records dating back to the early 18th Century. I would love to see these records transcribed someday.

If I remember correctly there is a Spitzer family in the local Jewish cemetery, which is online.

Beyond that there is an 1828 land census of heads of households in the Batschka. It has been fully transcribed by Martha Remer Connor; the transcription which is now on line through FamilySearch, title "Germans and Hungarians, 1828 Land Census, Bacs Bodrog, Hungary". JewishGen has posted some names >from the 1828 census when it believes the person counted was Jewish either because in some cases he was identified as Jewish or because he had what seemed likely to be a Jewish name.

Radix which is a paid site has records of various sorts, including a list of employees in 1917 on the Hungarian railway which included my great grandfather and his brother in law.
Radix also has an 1891 Industrial survey.

JewishGen has posted by name List of Subotica Jews victims of the Fascist Occupation 1941-1945.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Subotica research. #hungary

ericalishahn@...
 

As someone who has done a lot of research re Jews in Szabadka I would have to say it is not easy. Most records are not on line. There is at the Subotica Archives a file of rabbinical vital records dating back to the early 18th Century. I would love to see these records transcribed someday.

If I remember correctly there is a Spitzer family in the local Jewish cemetery, which is online.

Beyond that there is an 1828 land census of heads of households in the Batschka. It has been fully transcribed by Martha Remer Connor; the transcription which is now on line through FamilySearch, title "Germans and Hungarians, 1828 Land Census, Bacs Bodrog, Hungary". JewishGen has posted some names >from the 1828 census when it believes the person counted was Jewish either because in some cases he was identified as Jewish or because he had what seemed likely to be a Jewish name.

Radix which is a paid site has records of various sorts, including a list of employees in 1917 on the Hungarian railway which included my great grandfather and his brother in law.
Radix also has an 1891 Industrial survey.

JewishGen has posted by name List of Subotica Jews victims of the Fascist Occupation 1941-1945.


(UK) Who Do You Think You Are Daniel Radcliffe Explores his Maternal Jewish Ancestors #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The UK version of Who Do You Think You Are first episode of the 16th season
is about Daniel Radcliffe, of Harry Potter's fame. He explores his maternal
Jewish roots.
The episode is on YouTube and can be watched at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYuMuWUaU6k

Thank you to Gail Dever, Genealogy ala Carte blog for informing of us that
this episode is available on You Tube.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (UK) Who Do You Think You Are Daniel Radcliffe Explores his Maternal Jewish Ancestors #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

The UK version of Who Do You Think You Are first episode of the 16th season
is about Daniel Radcliffe, of Harry Potter's fame. He explores his maternal
Jewish roots.
The episode is on YouTube and can be watched at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYuMuWUaU6k

Thank you to Gail Dever, Genealogy ala Carte blog for informing of us that
this episode is available on You Tube.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Re: Same person listed on two passenger manifests within ten days #general

boris
 

The most plausible explanation is that two persons traveled under the same
name. Determining who was the "real one" and who was the "fake" is a
different story.

Since Alan Greenberg discovered that the first Mendel was admitted and the
second one was detained (was a reason listed? Is it know what happened to
him later?) the easiest assumption is that the first Mendel was the "real
one". Given the fact that the Russo-Japanese was in full swing by the late
1904, the second Mendel could well be someone else, e.g. 22 y.o., trying to
evade the draft and detained because he looked too young for his documents.
The real wild guess is that the first Mendel - for whatever reason - stood
vividly in memory of the immigration clerk who was surprised to see the same
name only 10 days later.

But these are all guesses. Researching both, the New York and the Worcester
families *may* shed light.

Boris Feldblyum
Potomac, MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Same person listed on two passenger manifests within ten days #general

boris
 

The most plausible explanation is that two persons traveled under the same
name. Determining who was the "real one" and who was the "fake" is a
different story.

Since Alan Greenberg discovered that the first Mendel was admitted and the
second one was detained (was a reason listed? Is it know what happened to
him later?) the easiest assumption is that the first Mendel was the "real
one". Given the fact that the Russo-Japanese was in full swing by the late
1904, the second Mendel could well be someone else, e.g. 22 y.o., trying to
evade the draft and detained because he looked too young for his documents.
The real wild guess is that the first Mendel - for whatever reason - stood
vividly in memory of the immigration clerk who was surprised to see the same
name only 10 days later.

But these are all guesses. Researching both, the New York and the Worcester
families *may* shed light.

Boris Feldblyum
Potomac, MD


German Towns Database (USHMM) #general

Lande
 

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) has added digitized
documents for 37,476 name records in the collection "The German Towns
Project" to the Holocaust Survivors and Victims (HSV) database. You can
search/request and immediately receive digital copies of the original
documents in your email. Search at
https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?Sourceid=48805 .

Peter Lande
Washington, D.C.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen German Towns Database (USHMM) #general

Lande
 

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) has added digitized
documents for 37,476 name records in the collection "The German Towns
Project" to the Holocaust Survivors and Victims (HSV) database. You can
search/request and immediately receive digital copies of the original
documents in your email. Search at
https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/source_view.php?Sourceid=48805 .

Peter Lande
Washington, D.C.


Re: Surnaw, Russia or Ukraine #general

Jim Statler <jim.statler@...>
 

1st of all, I must apologize for some mis-information I did not pass on in my
1st message. My name is Jim Statler & that is our adoptive name. My biological
family name is James Lee STEINBERG. My father was Reuben Steinberg, his father
was Victor Steinberg.

My grand mother's name was Celia GOLDSTEIN born 1901 & passed 1986. Her mothers
name ( my great grand mother ) Olge (LEVITT) Goldstein born 1879- 1956. She was
married to Louis Goldstein 1865-1938.

My great great grand mother was Rose Levitt born 1855. If anyone has any info that
would help us find where our family came >from we would appreciate any help. All
we know is the family came >from Surnaw, Russia or Ukraine.

Thank you, Jim Statler ( Steinberg )


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Surnaw, Russia or Ukraine #general

Jim Statler <jim.statler@...>
 

1st of all, I must apologize for some mis-information I did not pass on in my
1st message. My name is Jim Statler & that is our adoptive name. My biological
family name is James Lee STEINBERG. My father was Reuben Steinberg, his father
was Victor Steinberg.

My grand mother's name was Celia GOLDSTEIN born 1901 & passed 1986. Her mothers
name ( my great grand mother ) Olge (LEVITT) Goldstein born 1879- 1956. She was
married to Louis Goldstein 1865-1938.

My great great grand mother was Rose Levitt born 1855. If anyone has any info that
would help us find where our family came >from we would appreciate any help. All
we know is the family came >from Surnaw, Russia or Ukraine.

Thank you, Jim Statler ( Steinberg )


What symbols are used in Jewish family history reports in place of the words birth, marriage and death? #germany

Hansmartin Unger <hansmartin.unger@...>
 

Sirs

[When I write family history reports] for birth and death I use
the follwing symbols:

I wonder if I use the right signs for Jewish people?  Or are in the
meantime the signs * for birth  oo for marriage [???] + Christian cross ?

thanks for your help

Hansmartin Unger, St. Gallen, Switzerland hansmartin.unger@sunrise.ch


German SIG #Germany What symbols are used in Jewish family history reports in place of the words birth, marriage and death? #germany

Hansmartin Unger <hansmartin.unger@...>
 

Sirs

[When I write family history reports] for birth and death I use
the follwing symbols:

I wonder if I use the right signs for Jewish people?  Or are in the
meantime the signs * for birth  oo for marriage [???] + Christian cross ?

thanks for your help

Hansmartin Unger, St. Gallen, Switzerland hansmartin.unger@sunrise.ch


Re: Photograph help/ideas #germany

Irene Peters <iupfamilyresearch@...>
 

Ruth,

I am not sure that this will ultimately help you but there is a
German-Austrian book by Elisabeth Buxbaum, Transit Shanghai, Edition
Steinbauer, Wien (Vienna) 2008. While I don't think that the book
itself would be particularly helpful (except for maybe the
bibliography listing her extensive sources), it might be worth a try
to contact Ms. Buxbaum. Maybe she has an idea where you could look
further. A very superficial Google search did not reveal any email
address for her but the publisher's general email address is
presse@edition-steinbauer.com. They might be able to forward an
inquiry... Best regards,

Irene Peters, Berlin, Germany iupfamilyresearch@gmail.com

Ruth Kraut ruthkraut@gmail.com wrote:

My sister-in-law's mother was born in 1941 in Shanghai where her
parents were refugees. Her father died a couple of years later and she
has only ever seen a single picture of him as one face in a group of
about 20. She would love to find a picture and I am trying to help
her. To that end, I thought I would post his personal information as
well as where he lived, in case any of you have suggestions for places
I might look for photos, particularly >from Frankfurt and Shanghai. <snip>


German SIG #Germany Re: Photograph help/ideas #germany

Irene Peters <iupfamilyresearch@...>
 

Ruth,

I am not sure that this will ultimately help you but there is a
German-Austrian book by Elisabeth Buxbaum, Transit Shanghai, Edition
Steinbauer, Wien (Vienna) 2008. While I don't think that the book
itself would be particularly helpful (except for maybe the
bibliography listing her extensive sources), it might be worth a try
to contact Ms. Buxbaum. Maybe she has an idea where you could look
further. A very superficial Google search did not reveal any email
address for her but the publisher's general email address is
presse@edition-steinbauer.com. They might be able to forward an
inquiry... Best regards,

Irene Peters, Berlin, Germany iupfamilyresearch@gmail.com

Ruth Kraut ruthkraut@gmail.com wrote:

My sister-in-law's mother was born in 1941 in Shanghai where her
parents were refugees. Her father died a couple of years later and she
has only ever seen a single picture of him as one face in a group of
about 20. She would love to find a picture and I am trying to help
her. To that end, I thought I would post his personal information as
well as where he lived, in case any of you have suggestions for places
I might look for photos, particularly >from Frankfurt and Shanghai. <snip>

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