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ViewMate translation request -- Russian -- from Biala Podlaska or Ostrow Lubelski, Poland -- CUKERMAN
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Sonny Putter <sonny_putter@...>
I would appreciate an English translation of the Russian text of the 1892
birth record for Avrum Szlema CUKERMAN, Akta 115. I would like a translation of all the genealogically significant information, especially his date of birth and place of birth, the town in which the recording took place (as stated in the record) and the names, ages and birth places of his parents. I am particularly interested in the maiden name of the mother. It is on ViewMate at the following address: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74683 . Please respond using the online ViewMate form. Thank you very much. Sinai (Sonny) PUTTER Bellevue, Washington U.S.A. sonny_putter@prodigy.net
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request -- Russian -- from Biala Podlaska or Ostrow Lubelski, Poland -- CUKERMAN
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Sonny Putter <sonny_putter@...>
I would appreciate an English translation of the Russian text of the 1892
birth record for Avrum Szlema CUKERMAN, Akta 115. I would like a translation of all the genealogically significant information, especially his date of birth and place of birth, the town in which the recording took place (as stated in the record) and the names, ages and birth places of his parents. I am particularly interested in the maiden name of the mother. It is on ViewMate at the following address: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74683 . Please respond using the online ViewMate form. Thank you very much. Sinai (Sonny) PUTTER Bellevue, Washington U.S.A. sonny_putter@prodigy.net
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Ghetto card
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Geraldine Courtney
I have found a Ghetto death card for what I fear may be a son of my
family who lived in Warsaw. His parents and siblings all left Poland during the early 1900s for the States, but I have so far been unable to trace that he ever joined them, or indeed left Warsaw himself. Yet, why would he remain behind? There is no record of a marriage and I have searched every source available to me for him, yet I can only find his birth and this death card. I am aware that the year 1941, in which this particular death of a Wolf Sztajnchajer is recorded, is one for which the records were miraculously discovered. However, what I would like to know is whether there exists any other source to confirm more comprehensive or specific details, and if there were records >from Warsaw showing his death officially other than via the Ghetto death card. The card itself names him and shows cause of death confirmed by a doctor, and that is all the information available on it. Is it likely he was ever buried and named and, if so, would his burial place require to be registered by the State? Were records ever kept in Poland of those people who suddenly disappeared >from their homes and travelled clandestinely, or oherwise, to other countries? The members of my family comprised nine people, and in addition there were also wives and children. Could they simply disappear with no one in authority being aware? I would like to prove or disprove conclusively that this person may be the Wolf who is connected to me, yet wonder if this is either realistic or possible. I would greatly welcome any advice or help. Thank you. Geraldine Courtney, UK Researching STEINHAUER & variations, HAUZER/HAUSER, LINDE, ZYSZ
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ghetto card
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Geraldine Courtney
I have found a Ghetto death card for what I fear may be a son of my
family who lived in Warsaw. His parents and siblings all left Poland during the early 1900s for the States, but I have so far been unable to trace that he ever joined them, or indeed left Warsaw himself. Yet, why would he remain behind? There is no record of a marriage and I have searched every source available to me for him, yet I can only find his birth and this death card. I am aware that the year 1941, in which this particular death of a Wolf Sztajnchajer is recorded, is one for which the records were miraculously discovered. However, what I would like to know is whether there exists any other source to confirm more comprehensive or specific details, and if there were records >from Warsaw showing his death officially other than via the Ghetto death card. The card itself names him and shows cause of death confirmed by a doctor, and that is all the information available on it. Is it likely he was ever buried and named and, if so, would his burial place require to be registered by the State? Were records ever kept in Poland of those people who suddenly disappeared >from their homes and travelled clandestinely, or oherwise, to other countries? The members of my family comprised nine people, and in addition there were also wives and children. Could they simply disappear with no one in authority being aware? I would like to prove or disprove conclusively that this person may be the Wolf who is connected to me, yet wonder if this is either realistic or possible. I would greatly welcome any advice or help. Thank you. Geraldine Courtney, UK Researching STEINHAUER & variations, HAUZER/HAUSER, LINDE, ZYSZ
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(Hungary) MyHeritage DNA Study Reveals Hungary Has World's Second Largest Percentage of Population with Jewish (Ashkenazi) Ethnicity
Jan Meisels Allen
A new study MyHeritage DNA did with Dr. Daniel Staetsky, a statistician and demographer uncovered the number of people descended from Jewish ancestors in Hungary is higher than other demographers have previously estimated.
The first study of its kind revealed that the country with the highest proportion of Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity after Israel was Hungary. It was previously thought it was the United States. The study showed: After Israel, the top countries in terms of significant Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity were Hungary and Russia, followed by Argentina, South Africa, Ukraine, and then the USA. The analysis was a cohort of 1.8 million anonymized DNA tests taken by MyHeritage customers worldwide. The study included 100 countries.
A much lower percentage of people in Hungary, who self-identify as being Jews, is substantially lower compared with the DNA test-takers, even after adjusting for a degree of selectivity of MyHeritage users (most educated and well to do classes since commercial genetic testing which is more likely to be used by those cohorts.) It is also assumed that more Hungarian Jews assimilated into the local population before the Holocaust, more Hungarians survived the Holocaust than Jews in Poland, and more Jews remained in Hungary than in Poland following the Holocaust.
Jews have a long history in Hungary dating back to at least the early 13th century. By the early 20th century Jews constituted 5 % of Hungary’s total population and Jews comprised 23% of Budapest. (These are not MyHeritage’s numbers.) By 1941, over 17% of Budapest’s Jews were Roman Catholic converts, following coordinated pressure across Europe that began with the Spanish Inquisition in the late 15th century. Over 560,000 Hungarian Jews were murdered in Holocaust.
The MyHeritage study also revealed Russia having many more people with Jewish ethnicity than demographers expected.
https://blog.myheritage.com/2019/08/hungarys-secret-new-study-by-myheritage/
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Visit JewishGen’s New Website!
Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <r-hopper@...>
Hi Ariel, Thanks for this. The notice in the blue box is configured by the groups software not by JewishGen. I actually have not seen it before. My interpretation of it is that you can reply to individual messages within the digest, but that you cannot reply to the entire digest. So, if you see a message within the digest that you want to reply to, click on that specific message’s subject & you should be able to reply to it using your email client. If you want to test it, click on a subject in a recent digest that you have received & reply with a test message. Hopefully that works!
On Aug 14, 2019, at 1:19 PM, ariel_parkansky via Groups.Io <ariel_parkansky@...> wrote:
Hi Rachel, Thanks a lot for the answer all of that are good news, both the possibility to answer directly from the mail and that messages will be moderated before posting (that I had already discovered after validating the first message :) . Concerning the reply by mail, in the daily summary I've chosen to receive, the first big message I have is
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Re: Visit JewishGen’s New Website!
Ariel Parkansky
Hi Rachel,
Thanks a lot for the answer all of that are good news, both the possibility to answer directly from the mail and that messages will be moderated before posting (that I had already discovered after validating the first message :) . Concerning the reply by mail, in the daily summary I've chosen to receive, the first big message I have is
Best, Ariel
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JGSGW - Special August Program on August 25
#general
N. Kotz
The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Washington (JGSGW) and the
Bender JCC are co-hosting a special August workshop, Genealogy in the Comics: A Kids' Lecture for Grownups presented by Daniel Horowitz, taking place at the Bender JCC, on Sunday, August 25, 2019. Activities begin at 1:00 PM including consultations with our genealogy "mavens" followed by the program beginning at 1:30 PM. The program is free and open to the public. Hollywood and the movie industry included genealogy references and techniques in many of their productions for a long time. Comics and cartoons also used genealogy to create intrigue and interest. Daniel will show how these classics reveal family history and relationships -- sometimes hidden, and sometimes in plain view. Come and enjoy this kids' lecture for grownups -- revive your childhood moments and discover some of the characters' family secrets you never knew were there. Daniel Horowitz is the Genealogy Expert at MyHeritage. He is responsible for outreach and liaison with genealogy societies, bloggers, and media, as well as lecturing and attending conferences around the world. He was the teacher and the study guide editor of the family history project "Searching for My Roots" in Venezuela for 15 years. Daniel is involved in several crowdsource digitization and transcription projects and holds a board-level position at the Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA). He has been dedicated to genealogy since 1986. Nancy C. Kotz Vice President for Communications, Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington Website: https://jgsgw.org/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jgsgw/
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSGW - Special August Program on August 25
#general
N. Kotz
The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Washington (JGSGW) and the
Bender JCC are co-hosting a special August workshop, Genealogy in the Comics: A Kids' Lecture for Grownups presented by Daniel Horowitz, taking place at the Bender JCC, on Sunday, August 25, 2019. Activities begin at 1:00 PM including consultations with our genealogy "mavens" followed by the program beginning at 1:30 PM. The program is free and open to the public. Hollywood and the movie industry included genealogy references and techniques in many of their productions for a long time. Comics and cartoons also used genealogy to create intrigue and interest. Daniel will show how these classics reveal family history and relationships -- sometimes hidden, and sometimes in plain view. Come and enjoy this kids' lecture for grownups -- revive your childhood moments and discover some of the characters' family secrets you never knew were there. Daniel Horowitz is the Genealogy Expert at MyHeritage. He is responsible for outreach and liaison with genealogy societies, bloggers, and media, as well as lecturing and attending conferences around the world. He was the teacher and the study guide editor of the family history project "Searching for My Roots" in Venezuela for 15 years. Daniel is involved in several crowdsource digitization and transcription projects and holds a board-level position at the Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA). He has been dedicated to genealogy since 1986. Nancy C. Kotz Vice President for Communications, Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington Website: https://jgsgw.org/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jgsgw/
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ViewMate identification: Whatever happened to Shifra Moshkovna Luchanskaya of Koshevata?
#ukraine
Joseph Walder
I realize there is little chance of success here, but I am asking if
anyone with roots in Tarashcha or Koshevata, Ukraine, might have any idea of whatever happened to Shifra Moshkovna Luchanskaya (probably born 1894 or 1895). I worked out >from old Russian census records that she was a second cousin to my maternal grandmother, Yenta Moiseyvna Murakhovskaya (born 1897). The two posed together in a bunch of photographs that I discovered last year and which date >from about 1917 to 1923, when my grandmother emigrated to the United States. Shifra Moshkovna evidently remained in the Soviet Union, married and had at least one child. I have posted three photographs to Viewmate for inspection. ViewMate #74712 shows Shifra Moshkovna alone and is dated 1917. ViewMate #74713, dated 1925, shows her with three members of the Shepetovsky family; the man is probably her husband. ViewMate #74714 shows her with her husband (Beni, according to the inscription on the reverse) and daughter (Rivulia, again according to the inscription on the reverse). This third photo is undated but one could estimate it to be from no earlier than about 1929.Shifra's siblings indicated by the 1897 census include Chava (b. 1885), Chana (b. 1887), and Itij (b. 1893). Her father was Moshko Elev (or Eliovich) Luchansky (b. 1867); her mother was Mil'ka Meyerovna (b. 1866; maiden name unknown). Her paternal grandfather was El' (Eliyahu) Manev Luchansky (b. 1829); her paternal grandmother was Shifra. Any help in solving this mystery would be much appreciated. Joseph Walder Portland, Oregon, USA
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine ViewMate identification: Whatever happened to Shifra Moshkovna Luchanskaya of Koshevata?
#ukraine
Joseph Walder
I realize there is little chance of success here, but I am asking if
anyone with roots in Tarashcha or Koshevata, Ukraine, might have any idea of whatever happened to Shifra Moshkovna Luchanskaya (probably born 1894 or 1895). I worked out >from old Russian census records that she was a second cousin to my maternal grandmother, Yenta Moiseyvna Murakhovskaya (born 1897). The two posed together in a bunch of photographs that I discovered last year and which date >from about 1917 to 1923, when my grandmother emigrated to the United States. Shifra Moshkovna evidently remained in the Soviet Union, married and had at least one child. I have posted three photographs to Viewmate for inspection. ViewMate #74712 shows Shifra Moshkovna alone and is dated 1917. ViewMate #74713, dated 1925, shows her with three members of the Shepetovsky family; the man is probably her husband. ViewMate #74714 shows her with her husband (Beni, according to the inscription on the reverse) and daughter (Rivulia, again according to the inscription on the reverse). This third photo is undated but one could estimate it to be from no earlier than about 1929.Shifra's siblings indicated by the 1897 census include Chava (b. 1885), Chana (b. 1887), and Itij (b. 1893). Her father was Moshko Elev (or Eliovich) Luchansky (b. 1867); her mother was Mil'ka Meyerovna (b. 1866; maiden name unknown). Her paternal grandfather was El' (Eliyahu) Manev Luchansky (b. 1829); her paternal grandmother was Shifra. Any help in solving this mystery would be much appreciated. Joseph Walder Portland, Oregon, USA
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Translation
#ukraine
I have a video that was spoken in Ukranian. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could translate some key portions of the video. It concerns the experiences of the Jews during the holocaust in the town where my family is from. Please let me know if you are willing to translate or have any suggestions.
Tony Hausner Silver Spring, MD 20901 (primary email address: thausner@gmail.com)
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Translation
#ukraine
I have a video that was spoken in Ukranian. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could translate some key portions of the video. It concerns the experiences of the Jews during the holocaust in the town where my family is from. Please let me know if you are willing to translate or have any suggestions.
Tony Hausner Silver Spring, MD 20901 (primary email address: thausner@gmail.com)
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Gideon Miller
Hello,
I am trying to help my father in law who left Lodz as a small child in 1935. He will be visiting Lodz next month and would like to find the house he was born in. We have his parents' names and the address of his grandparents. Any advice for finding the address of someone >from the pre-war years? Or recommendations for a researcher/guide we could use? Thanks very much for any ideas, Gideon Miller MODERATOR'S NOTE: Research resources may be shared with the list, but please send any recommendations for guides or researchers privately.
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Gideon Miller
Hello,
I am trying to help my father in law who left Lodz as a small child in 1935. He will be visiting Lodz next month and would like to find the house he was born in. We have his parents' names and the address of his grandparents. Any advice for finding the address of someone >from the pre-war years? Or recommendations for a researcher/guide we could use? Thanks very much for any ideas, Gideon Miller MODERATOR'S NOTE: Research resources may be shared with the list, but please send any recommendations for guides or researchers privately.
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Results of My Search for Ruzena FARKAS
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Vivian Kahn
Thanks to all of the wonderful family researchers who responded to my
message about my cousin Ruzena FARKAS but especially to Renee Steinig and Sherri Bobbish. Renee provided a link to the testimony that Ruzena's mother Louise recorded for Spielberg's Shoah project and to a marvelous website that include a narrative about Louise and her husband Lazar and a marvelous painting that David Jon Kassari created of the couple. Check it out at https://www.artistsnetwork.com/art-mediums/oil-painting/portraits-holocaust-survivors-david-jon-kassan [or https://tinyurl.com/yymrpqe6 --Mod.] It definitely takes a village!! Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Results of My Search for Ruzena FARKAS
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Vivian Kahn
Thanks to all of the wonderful family researchers who responded to my
message about my cousin Ruzena FARKAS but especially to Renee Steinig and Sherri Bobbish. Renee provided a link to the testimony that Ruzena's mother Louise recorded for Spielberg's Shoah project and to a marvelous website that include a narrative about Louise and her husband Lazar and a marvelous painting that David Jon Kassari created of the couple. Check it out at https://www.artistsnetwork.com/art-mediums/oil-painting/portraits-holocaust-survivors-david-jon-kassan [or https://tinyurl.com/yymrpqe6 --Mod.] It definitely takes a village!! Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
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Massachusetts guidance
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Trudy Barch
Hello,
I'm researching a new family tonight and found 2 young sisters that died at a young age. One before 1910 and one before 1920. They were born in Springfield, Massachusetts and I am guessing died in that state. Any suggestions are how I can find their death dates. It does not seem to be on the usually sites to look at and doubtful an obit back then. Is there maybe a cemetery section for young children? Their parents died one before 1930 and one after but that brought me to a dead end also. Thank you for any help you can give me. Trudy Barch, Florida
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Massachusetts guidance
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Trudy Barch
Hello,
I'm researching a new family tonight and found 2 young sisters that died at a young age. One before 1910 and one before 1920. They were born in Springfield, Massachusetts and I am guessing died in that state. Any suggestions are how I can find their death dates. It does not seem to be on the usually sites to look at and doubtful an obit back then. Is there maybe a cemetery section for young children? Their parents died one before 1930 and one after but that brought me to a dead end also. Thank you for any help you can give me. Trudy Barch, Florida
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Re: (Greece) 75th Anniversary of Jewish Deportation from Island of Rhodes
#sephardic
COMCAST Pop
Thanks for posting this here. This format is much easier to read than the old list and the ability to have a photo is a big improvement.
Mary-Jane Roth Alexandria VA
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