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Searching #subcarpathia

Stuart Kaufer
 

My paternal GM was Fannie LIEBOVITZ born in Kiralyhaza. She was
married four times:
1. ?Harry GOLDSTEIN with whom she had a daughter Lillian born in June 1904.
2. Her next husband was my paternal GF Edward KAUFER with whom they
had a son, my dad
Ernest. Lillian's last name was changed to KAUFER after their
marriage. They married in 1912 and divorced in 1921.
3. Next husband was last name STENGEL and they divorced.
4. Last husband was David MAIMON who pre-deceased Fannie.

Lillian died in 1966 and had no children. She also married a MAIMAN,
Benjamin >from Philadelphia.
Fannie died in 1971.
I have very few pictures or memorabilia of Fannie or Lillian. When my
GM died we did find some pictures but they had people cut out of them,
presumably people she didn't like or >from prior marriages?

The purpose of this email is twofold:
1. If anyone knows of pictures please adivse.
2. Trying to find parents of Fannie to see how far back can trace. I
know Fannie had siblings
Edward Levitt who married my paternal GF sister Sadie Kaufer. I am in
touch w Levitt cousins
Ettie Goldstein who had 2 daughters, one died young, the other Regina
raised her sister's dtr Joy.
I am not in touch w that cousin.
Esther Hershkovitz who had a daughter Beverly and a son who died at an
early age. I never met Beverly or her children.

My cousin David Lebovitz who was very active on this list had a whole
Leibovitz family tree which he gave me and I can no longer locate. He
died much too young.
If anyone can help, thanks.


Searching Stein #subcarpathia

Stuart Kaufer
 

My maternal GF was Samuel Stein who was born in Kiralyhaza. He
emigrated via Canada in early 1900's. He married Roza Friedman who
originated >from Nagytarna, Romania and she came in about 1907. They
settled in Chicago and had 7 children, lived on Grand Ave. Sadly, my
GM died in 1937 in her early 40's. I am in touch with all of my
cousins >from this side of family, and my mother Lillian Stein Kaufer
is the only one of her siblings alive at age 100. Her memory of
family comes and goes.

The purpose of this email is to try to expand family tree on this side
of family. What I know about Sam Stein is that he had 1 sister who
lived in Hawley, PA and married someone w last name Kerner. I do not
know if he had any other siblings left in Europe, don't know my
GGparents names.

Regarding my GM Roza Friedman Stein, I know less. I do know she had a
brother David Friedman who visited in Chicago in 30's but went back to
Europe and was killed in Auschwitz. He had children, one of whom Ida
survived but have never been able to trace what happened w her after
the War. Also, know nothing of other sibs of hers or her parents.

If anyone can help, thank you in advance.


Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia Searching #subcarpathia

Stuart Kaufer
 

My paternal GM was Fannie LIEBOVITZ born in Kiralyhaza. She was
married four times:
1. ?Harry GOLDSTEIN with whom she had a daughter Lillian born in June 1904.
2. Her next husband was my paternal GF Edward KAUFER with whom they
had a son, my dad
Ernest. Lillian's last name was changed to KAUFER after their
marriage. They married in 1912 and divorced in 1921.
3. Next husband was last name STENGEL and they divorced.
4. Last husband was David MAIMON who pre-deceased Fannie.

Lillian died in 1966 and had no children. She also married a MAIMAN,
Benjamin >from Philadelphia.
Fannie died in 1971.
I have very few pictures or memorabilia of Fannie or Lillian. When my
GM died we did find some pictures but they had people cut out of them,
presumably people she didn't like or >from prior marriages?

The purpose of this email is twofold:
1. If anyone knows of pictures please adivse.
2. Trying to find parents of Fannie to see how far back can trace. I
know Fannie had siblings
Edward Levitt who married my paternal GF sister Sadie Kaufer. I am in
touch w Levitt cousins
Ettie Goldstein who had 2 daughters, one died young, the other Regina
raised her sister's dtr Joy.
I am not in touch w that cousin.
Esther Hershkovitz who had a daughter Beverly and a son who died at an
early age. I never met Beverly or her children.

My cousin David Lebovitz who was very active on this list had a whole
Leibovitz family tree which he gave me and I can no longer locate. He
died much too young.
If anyone can help, thanks.


Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia Searching Stein #subcarpathia

Stuart Kaufer
 

My maternal GF was Samuel Stein who was born in Kiralyhaza. He
emigrated via Canada in early 1900's. He married Roza Friedman who
originated >from Nagytarna, Romania and she came in about 1907. They
settled in Chicago and had 7 children, lived on Grand Ave. Sadly, my
GM died in 1937 in her early 40's. I am in touch with all of my
cousins >from this side of family, and my mother Lillian Stein Kaufer
is the only one of her siblings alive at age 100. Her memory of
family comes and goes.

The purpose of this email is to try to expand family tree on this side
of family. What I know about Sam Stein is that he had 1 sister who
lived in Hawley, PA and married someone w last name Kerner. I do not
know if he had any other siblings left in Europe, don't know my
GGparents names.

Regarding my GM Roza Friedman Stein, I know less. I do know she had a
brother David Friedman who visited in Chicago in 30's but went back to
Europe and was killed in Auschwitz. He had children, one of whom Ida
survived but have never been able to trace what happened w her after
the War. Also, know nothing of other sibs of hers or her parents.

If anyone can help, thank you in advance.


Searching Katz #subcarpathia

Stuart Kaufer
 

Looking for relatives of Herman and Perl KATZ who resided in Munkacs
and emigrated to Israel. I was in touch w Perl in mid 60's but lost
contact. I remember she had a son named Friedrich. She was a cousin
of my Great Uncle David FRIEDMAN who came >from Nagytarna Romania and
died in Auschwitz.

Any information on whereabouts would be appreciated.


Subcarpathia SIG #Subcarpathia Searching Katz #subcarpathia

Stuart Kaufer
 

Looking for relatives of Herman and Perl KATZ who resided in Munkacs
and emigrated to Israel. I was in touch w Perl in mid 60's but lost
contact. I remember she had a son named Friedrich. She was a cousin
of my Great Uncle David FRIEDMAN who came >from Nagytarna Romania and
died in Auschwitz.

Any information on whereabouts would be appreciated.


ViewMate Translation Request-Hebrew gravestone #general

JANIE TYRE
 

I've posted a gravestone in Hebrew, >from the Szatmar, Hungary Orthodox Cemetery.
I'd appreciate a translation. Here's the link:

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=74740

Thank you much,
Janie Tyre
JewishGen researcher: 27700

MODERATOR: Please respond using the ViewMate response form


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate Translation Request-Hebrew gravestone #general

JANIE TYRE
 

I've posted a gravestone in Hebrew, >from the Szatmar, Hungary Orthodox Cemetery.
I'd appreciate a translation. Here's the link:

https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=74740

Thank you much,
Janie Tyre
JewishGen researcher: 27700

MODERATOR: Please respond using the ViewMate response form


Seeking Lande or Landa family from Shpikov #general

Kathryn James <Kathrynbkj@...>
 

My maternal great grandmother Baba (Jennie) Goldstein was a widow who emigrated to NY
before 1910 >from Shpikov. Her maiden name was Landa or Landa. Has anyone run across
this family? Is there a family tree? Thank you.

Kathryn Kanarek James
Annandale, Virginia
Member, JGSGW

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only please


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Lande or Landa family from Shpikov #general

Kathryn James <Kathrynbkj@...>
 

My maternal great grandmother Baba (Jennie) Goldstein was a widow who emigrated to NY
before 1910 >from Shpikov. Her maiden name was Landa or Landa. Has anyone run across
this family? Is there a family tree? Thank you.

Kathryn Kanarek James
Annandale, Virginia
Member, JGSGW

MODERATOR NOTE: Private responses only please


Re: Time to Redefine the Term Sephardic? #general

tom
 

the most important element here is that it isn't a binary choice. although a
person cannot follow more than one ritual tradition (either you eat rice on pesach
or you don't), there are other traditions (e.g. romaniote, iraqi, indian, hassidic,
etc.) which don't divide neatly in sephardi or ashkenazi.

there were always migrations in both directions, depending on local conditions.
names like ESKENAZI and FRANCO are common sephardic names, whereas RAPOPORT is
ashkenazic.

groups which make claims of "purity" fly in the face of the historical and the
genetic record, because things aren't that simple.

....... tom klein, toronto

"Adam Cherson" <adam.cherson@gmail.com> wrote:
The past several years of research discoveries leads me to understand that there
are many persons whose immediately prior ancestry is >from the places we call
Eastern Europe, Central Europe, Hungary, Romania,Ukraine, Moldova, and
the like, *but* whose earlier ancestry includes a period of residency,
sometimes a substantial period of residency, in the Iberian peninsula.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Time to Redefine the Term Sephardic? #general

tom
 

the most important element here is that it isn't a binary choice. although a
person cannot follow more than one ritual tradition (either you eat rice on pesach
or you don't), there are other traditions (e.g. romaniote, iraqi, indian, hassidic,
etc.) which don't divide neatly in sephardi or ashkenazi.

there were always migrations in both directions, depending on local conditions.
names like ESKENAZI and FRANCO are common sephardic names, whereas RAPOPORT is
ashkenazic.

groups which make claims of "purity" fly in the face of the historical and the
genetic record, because things aren't that simple.

....... tom klein, toronto

"Adam Cherson" <adam.cherson@gmail.com> wrote:
The past several years of research discoveries leads me to understand that there
are many persons whose immediately prior ancestry is >from the places we call
Eastern Europe, Central Europe, Hungary, Romania,Ukraine, Moldova, and
the like, *but* whose earlier ancestry includes a period of residency,
sometimes a substantial period of residency, in the Iberian peninsula.


Need MS WORD Expert to help Yizkor-Books-in-Print Project #general

Joel Alpert
 

Yizkor-Books-in-Print Project is in need of help >from an expert in MS
WORD to help straighten out formatting on a new important book.

If you can help, please contact YBIP@Jewishgen.org or jalp@comcast.net

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-in-Print Project


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need MS WORD Expert to help Yizkor-Books-in-Print Project #general

Joel Alpert
 

Yizkor-Books-in-Print Project is in need of help >from an expert in MS
WORD to help straighten out formatting on a new important book.

If you can help, please contact YBIP@Jewishgen.org or jalp@comcast.net

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-in-Print Project


Re: Visit JewishGen’s New Website!

Alan Shuchat
 

I receive the Daily Summary in Apple’s Mail client, usually on my iPhone. The summary email doesn’t allow for replies, but clicking on a post opens the browser (Safari) and I can see the post and the thread to which belongs (if there is one). There is a Reply option, and composing a reply leads to a choice between “Reply to Group “ and “Discard”. The format is different from what Sam attached, and this may just depend on the client and browser being used.

Alan


Re: MyHeritage DNA Study Reveals Hungary Has World's Second Largest Percentage of Population with Jewish (Ashkenazi) Ethnicity #hungary

ericalishahn@...
 

As a person with Hungarian Jewish ancestry, I would like to weigh in with an anecdotal story to support these findings.
My father's father as it eventually turned out was fully Jewish. He was born in what is now Serbia, but was Hungary until 1920 .
In 1914 in Budapest he married an ethnic Hungarian who was Catholic. In 1917 they had a child, and a marriage record was produced presumably in connection with registering the child
The document is very interesting.It includes the religion of both spouses. My grandmother was very straightforwardly identified as RK which are the Hungarian initials for Roman Catholic. For my grandfather his original religion had been blacked out, leaving one letter visible, a z, then in a different hand, he too was marked RK. The document also included a promise that any children of the marriage would be raised Catholic, a promise made only when one of the spouses was not Catholic. In other words he was Jewish in 1914, but by 1917 presumably had converted and was now Catholic.

He had two brothers both of whom also converted.  One of the brothers married a Jewish woman and she too converted.They also had a sister who married a Jew and as far as I can tell she and her husband did not convert.Â
My father and his brother were indeed raised Roman Catholic and trained never to reveal their Jewish ancestry.
I only know because my grandmother slipped up one time in front of my mother and referred to her husband as Jewish.

So of this family of three brothers and a sister, who had two Christian spouses and two Jewish spouses, four of the six Jews converted to Christianity. This would be in the period >from about 1915 to about 1925.

Erica Hahn


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: MyHeritage DNA Study Reveals Hungary Has World's Second Largest Percentage of Population with Jewish (Ashkenazi) Ethnicity #hungary

ericalishahn@...
 

As a person with Hungarian Jewish ancestry, I would like to weigh in with an anecdotal story to support these findings.
My father's father as it eventually turned out was fully Jewish. He was born in what is now Serbia, but was Hungary until 1920 .
In 1914 in Budapest he married an ethnic Hungarian who was Catholic. In 1917 they had a child, and a marriage record was produced presumably in connection with registering the child
The document is very interesting.It includes the religion of both spouses. My grandmother was very straightforwardly identified as RK which are the Hungarian initials for Roman Catholic. For my grandfather his original religion had been blacked out, leaving one letter visible, a z, then in a different hand, he too was marked RK. The document also included a promise that any children of the marriage would be raised Catholic, a promise made only when one of the spouses was not Catholic. In other words he was Jewish in 1914, but by 1917 presumably had converted and was now Catholic.

He had two brothers both of whom also converted.  One of the brothers married a Jewish woman and she too converted.They also had a sister who married a Jew and as far as I can tell she and her husband did not convert.Â
My father and his brother were indeed raised Roman Catholic and trained never to reveal their Jewish ancestry.
I only know because my grandmother slipped up one time in front of my mother and referred to her husband as Jewish.

So of this family of three brothers and a sister, who had two Christian spouses and two Jewish spouses, four of the six Jews converted to Christianity. This would be in the period >from about 1915 to about 1925.

Erica Hahn


(Australia) Family History Month in Australia- Victoria - Downloadable Historical Certificates #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Marking family history month in Australia, the State of Victoria (which includes
Melbourne), has reduced the price of their downloadable uncertified historical
certificates to $20 (AUS) for the month of August only. Embargo periods for
births are 100 years; marriages 60 years and deaths 30 years. Birth records start
from 1853, marriages and relationships >from 1853 and deaths >from 1853.
To read more and to see how to request a certificate go to:
https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history

Thank you to Peter Calver and Lost Cousins newsletter for informing us of
this special opportunity.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Australia) Family History Month in Australia- Victoria - Downloadable Historical Certificates #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Marking family history month in Australia, the State of Victoria (which includes
Melbourne), has reduced the price of their downloadable uncertified historical
certificates to $20 (AUS) for the month of August only. Embargo periods for
births are 100 years; marriages 60 years and deaths 30 years. Birth records start
from 1853, marriages and relationships >from 1853 and deaths >from 1853.
To read more and to see how to request a certificate go to:
https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/research-and-family-history/search-your-family-history

Thank you to Peter Calver and Lost Cousins newsletter for informing us of
this special opportunity.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Yiddish translation request on ViewMate #general

Sonia Milrod <smilrod@...>
 

I've posted a 2 page letter in Yiddish for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following addresses ...
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/responselist.asp?key=74670
https://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/responselist.asp?key=74671
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Sonia Milrod

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