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JGSGB September's events reminder
#unitedkingdom
Raymond Montanjees
Sunday 1 September. 2–5pm. A German SIG meeting at the regular Edgware
address. For full details, contact jeanette.R.Rosenberg@googlemail.com Tuesday 3 September. 7.30–9.30pm. Chilterns Regional Group will hold their meeting at The Community Room of the Northwood and Pinner Liberal Synagogue. 7.30pm until 9.30pm. Chairman Leigh Dworkin will present a talk entitled 'Udla, Udla, Udla ! The Szatkowskis of Lask, Piotrkov, Poland'. RSVP : chairman@jgsgb.org.uk Friday 6 September. 10.30–3pm. Library Session. Open for general research. Visitors welcome. Society members are on hand to help you use the library. 14 Charterhouse Buildings, Goswell Road, London EC1M 7BA. Contact library@jgsgb.org.uk Sunday 15 September. Dutch & Sephardi SIG. 2-5pm. We will welcome speaker Luca Ascoli who will present a talk entitled: The Development of Jewish Communities in Italy and the Surnames of Italian Jews. After refreshments, there will be the regular WORKSHOP and use of library. RSVP Raymond Montanjees (raymusik@aol.com) Sunday 15 September. 2–5pm. Library Session. Open for general research. Visitors welcome. £5 entrance members free. Refreshments. Librarians on hand to assist. 14 Charterhouse Buildings, Goswell Road, London EC1M 7BA. RSVP : library@jgsgb.org.uk Thursday 19 September. 7.30–9pm. 'An Education Evening for Beginners' via Webinar. For full details - contact Jeanette Rosenberg at : education@jgsgb.org.uk Sunday 22 September. 2-5.30pm As part of B'Nai B'Rith's 'European Day of Jewish Culture and Heritage' event, there will be another ' Brick Walls and Brush Up ' WORKSHOP session. All welcome. All regions covered. Free to non-members. Refreshments Contact Raymond Montanjees (raymusik@aol.com) Raymond Montanjees
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom JGSGB September's events reminder
#unitedkingdom
Raymond Montanjees
Sunday 1 September. 2–5pm. A German SIG meeting at the regular Edgware
address. For full details, contact jeanette.R.Rosenberg@googlemail.com Tuesday 3 September. 7.30–9.30pm. Chilterns Regional Group will hold their meeting at The Community Room of the Northwood and Pinner Liberal Synagogue. 7.30pm until 9.30pm. Chairman Leigh Dworkin will present a talk entitled 'Udla, Udla, Udla ! The Szatkowskis of Lask, Piotrkov, Poland'. RSVP : chairman@jgsgb.org.uk Friday 6 September. 10.30–3pm. Library Session. Open for general research. Visitors welcome. Society members are on hand to help you use the library. 14 Charterhouse Buildings, Goswell Road, London EC1M 7BA. Contact library@jgsgb.org.uk Sunday 15 September. Dutch & Sephardi SIG. 2-5pm. We will welcome speaker Luca Ascoli who will present a talk entitled: The Development of Jewish Communities in Italy and the Surnames of Italian Jews. After refreshments, there will be the regular WORKSHOP and use of library. RSVP Raymond Montanjees (raymusik@aol.com) Sunday 15 September. 2–5pm. Library Session. Open for general research. Visitors welcome. £5 entrance members free. Refreshments. Librarians on hand to assist. 14 Charterhouse Buildings, Goswell Road, London EC1M 7BA. RSVP : library@jgsgb.org.uk Thursday 19 September. 7.30–9pm. 'An Education Evening for Beginners' via Webinar. For full details - contact Jeanette Rosenberg at : education@jgsgb.org.uk Sunday 22 September. 2-5.30pm As part of B'Nai B'Rith's 'European Day of Jewish Culture and Heritage' event, there will be another ' Brick Walls and Brush Up ' WORKSHOP session. All welcome. All regions covered. Free to non-members. Refreshments Contact Raymond Montanjees (raymusik@aol.com) Raymond Montanjees
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(Israel) Pritzker Family National Photography Collection Established at National Library of Israel
Jan Meisels Allen
The John Pritzker Family Fund has made a gift to the National Library of Israel to support the digitization and expansion of century old photographs. The collection will be named Pritzker Family National Photography Collection at the National Library of Israel. The collection has been curated over a century and provides a record of Ottoman and Mandatory Palestine and Israeli Society form the mid-19th century to the present. There are over two million items in the collection. Hundreds of thousands of photographs have already been scanned and uploaded to the National Library of Israel’s website with free public access.
https://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/english/Pages/default.aspx I was not able to find the collection but their blog post says there are photographs already uploaded.
To read more see: https://blog.nli.org.il/en/pritzker-family-national-photography-collection/
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions?
#galicia
Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
Madeleine,
Ellis Island was an inspection station for arriving steerage passengers who were not US citizens. No one left Ellis Island for destinations other that elsewhere in the US, or if refused entry and returned to port of origin. A refusal of entry would be noted on the arrival passenger manifest. As to records of more voluntary departures >from the US, none were created. The government was interested in who arrived. They did not seem to care who left. Peter Zavon Penfield, NY PZAVON@Rochester.rr.com --- Madeleine Isenberg <madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com> wrote: Most of us researching our families are interested in the arrivals to ports such as Ellis Island. We can often find Hamburg Passenger lists from when they left Europe and Ellis Island Passenger lists >from whenthey arrived. My problem is trying to go in the reverse direction to find out when someone left >from Ellis Island, and probably arrived in Hamburg. For me, this is about a great-uncle, a Jacob STEINER, who first left Hamburg 24 March and arrived 6 April 1901, then apparently traveled back to Poland (via Hamburg), and then returned again to the USA, leaving 11 November and arriving 24 November 1905. Later, when he prepares a Petition for Naturalization in 30 June 1924, he claims to be a widower and have had two children, who were left in Poland. At a stretch (born overdue?) one was born 4 January 1902, and the other 1 March 1905. So I'm trying to find out when he returned to Poland: 1903? 1904? Unless I can find some passenger lists as indicated, it is a real puzzle. On the other hand, this relative has made other mistakes in birth years, probably even his own, so there could be mistakes here as well....
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Presenting/preserving genealogy materials?
#galicia
Matt Brown <mateusbrown@...>
Hi all. I'm looking for interesting options such as a "document album"
or oversized scrapbook to present and preserve things like 1800s birth certificates, ship manifest copies, photos etc. I've seen some large, leather bound genealogy albums in the UK (one company named Arrow) but haven't found a product on the US market. Has anyone done or seen this kind of thing who can suggest an approach or product? Something that works well for genealogy in particular. Thanks. Matt Brown
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions?
#galicia
Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
Madeleine,
Ellis Island was an inspection station for arriving steerage passengers who were not US citizens. No one left Ellis Island for destinations other that elsewhere in the US, or if refused entry and returned to port of origin. A refusal of entry would be noted on the arrival passenger manifest. As to records of more voluntary departures >from the US, none were created. The government was interested in who arrived. They did not seem to care who left. Peter Zavon Penfield, NY PZAVON@Rochester.rr.com --- Madeleine Isenberg <madeleine.isenberg@gmail.com> wrote: Most of us researching our families are interested in the arrivals to ports such as Ellis Island. We can often find Hamburg Passenger lists from when they left Europe and Ellis Island Passenger lists >from whenthey arrived. My problem is trying to go in the reverse direction to find out when someone left >from Ellis Island, and probably arrived in Hamburg. For me, this is about a great-uncle, a Jacob STEINER, who first left Hamburg 24 March and arrived 6 April 1901, then apparently traveled back to Poland (via Hamburg), and then returned again to the USA, leaving 11 November and arriving 24 November 1905. Later, when he prepares a Petition for Naturalization in 30 June 1924, he claims to be a widower and have had two children, who were left in Poland. At a stretch (born overdue?) one was born 4 January 1902, and the other 1 March 1905. So I'm trying to find out when he returned to Poland: 1903? 1904? Unless I can find some passenger lists as indicated, it is a real puzzle. On the other hand, this relative has made other mistakes in birth years, probably even his own, so there could be mistakes here as well....
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Presenting/preserving genealogy materials?
#galicia
Matt Brown <mateusbrown@...>
Hi all. I'm looking for interesting options such as a "document album"
or oversized scrapbook to present and preserve things like 1800s birth certificates, ship manifest copies, photos etc. I've seen some large, leather bound genealogy albums in the UK (one company named Arrow) but haven't found a product on the US market. Has anyone done or seen this kind of thing who can suggest an approach or product? Something that works well for genealogy in particular. Thanks. Matt Brown
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Re: Subject: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions?
#galicia
Barbara Ellman
Madeleine Isenberg asked about determining when an ancestor returned
to Europe. As there are no records of those leaving the US in the US, I was able to determine the departure year for my great-grandmother using her returning manifest. In 1897, the manifest for her return voyage had a column "Whether ever before in the United State, and if so, when and where." In the case of my great-grandmother, 7 years and NY was entered. Knowing when she had originally arrived in NY, I could determine that she had been out of NY for 3 years and had left the US in 1894. As manifests were not standardized until 1906, this column may not appear on all manifests, but if may be on the one of your relative arriving in the US on his second voyage. Barbara Ellman Secaucus NJ Researching ELLMAN, COIRA in Minkovtsy, Ukraine GOLDSTEIN, HIRSCHHORN, BUCHWALD in Dolyna, Ukraine KAGLE, FASS in Ulanow, Poland HASSMAN, SONENTHALER, DAUERMAN and several others in Drohobycz & Boryslaw, Ukraine
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Subject: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions?
#galicia
Barbara Ellman
Madeleine Isenberg asked about determining when an ancestor returned
to Europe. As there are no records of those leaving the US in the US, I was able to determine the departure year for my great-grandmother using her returning manifest. In 1897, the manifest for her return voyage had a column "Whether ever before in the United State, and if so, when and where." In the case of my great-grandmother, 7 years and NY was entered. Knowing when she had originally arrived in NY, I could determine that she had been out of NY for 3 years and had left the US in 1894. As manifests were not standardized until 1906, this column may not appear on all manifests, but if may be on the one of your relative arriving in the US on his second voyage. Barbara Ellman Secaucus NJ Researching ELLMAN, COIRA in Minkovtsy, Ukraine GOLDSTEIN, HIRSCHHORN, BUCHWALD in Dolyna, Ukraine KAGLE, FASS in Ulanow, Poland HASSMAN, SONENTHALER, DAUERMAN and several others in Drohobycz & Boryslaw, Ukraine
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Jews in elite prep schools?
#general
David Laskin
I'm trying to find out when Jewish students were first admitted to the
nation's leading prep and boarding schools -- places like Andover and Exeter, St. Paul's, Deerfield Academy, and also NYC-based private day schools like Horace Mann, Dalton, Collegiate, etc. David Laskin, Seattle, WA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jews in elite prep schools?
#general
David Laskin
I'm trying to find out when Jewish students were first admitted to the
nation's leading prep and boarding schools -- places like Andover and Exeter, St. Paul's, Deerfield Academy, and also NYC-based private day schools like Horace Mann, Dalton, Collegiate, etc. David Laskin, Seattle, WA
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(Canada) Ancestry Free Access Occupational Records Through September 2
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
Ancestry Canada is offering free access to their occupational records
through September 2 11:59 PM ET in honor of Labor Day. Registration is required-with name, email address and password. No credit card information is requested. If you try to access the featured collection after the free access period ends you will be invited to subscribe to Ancestry's World Deluxe membership. That is also true if you try to access records not included in the featured collection. Occupational records include nursing registers, railway employment, medical registers, merchant seamen death records and more. As occupation is included in census and voters lists these records appear in the featured collection. To access the website and registration go to: https://www.ancestry.ca/cs/labourday To see the featured collections go to: https://www.ancestry.ca/search/categories/labor_day_canada Once the record(s) you request appear, you can save it to your computer by clicking on the green save button on the upper right corner. The tool icon on the right will let your print or download to your computer. If you click on the 14-day free trial, that is not the Labor Day Free Access and you will be required to provide your credit card information. I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Canada) Ancestry Free Access Occupational Records Through September 2
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
Ancestry Canada is offering free access to their occupational records
through September 2 11:59 PM ET in honor of Labor Day. Registration is required-with name, email address and password. No credit card information is requested. If you try to access the featured collection after the free access period ends you will be invited to subscribe to Ancestry's World Deluxe membership. That is also true if you try to access records not included in the featured collection. Occupational records include nursing registers, railway employment, medical registers, merchant seamen death records and more. As occupation is included in census and voters lists these records appear in the featured collection. To access the website and registration go to: https://www.ancestry.ca/cs/labourday To see the featured collections go to: https://www.ancestry.ca/search/categories/labor_day_canada Once the record(s) you request appear, you can save it to your computer by clicking on the green save button on the upper right corner. The tool icon on the right will let your print or download to your computer. If you click on the 14-day free trial, that is not the Labor Day Free Access and you will be required to provide your credit card information. I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the information of the reader. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page
#general
Bruce Drake
"The horizon for the young Jewish common people was very limited,"
writes Enoch Stein in a chapter on the small town of Raguva in northeastern Lithuania (>from the Yizkor book of "Lite," the Yiddish word for Lithuania). Work could be scarce and one of the respites of life was the arrival of the newspapers which were devoured ">from the first page to the last, including advertisements, promotions and announcements." Another diversion was romance -- whether it was the arranged marriage or "the flirt" which produced marriages that came about "through love." Stein recounts one arranged marriage, which didn't work out so well, and recounts how young people set about to make matches on their own. This is an excerpt >from a longer chapter. You can read the full chapter on this page: https://bit.ly/2zxkdp9 URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2460676433954497 Bruce Drake Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page
#general
Bruce Drake
"The horizon for the young Jewish common people was very limited,"
writes Enoch Stein in a chapter on the small town of Raguva in northeastern Lithuania (>from the Yizkor book of "Lite," the Yiddish word for Lithuania). Work could be scarce and one of the respites of life was the arrival of the newspapers which were devoured ">from the first page to the last, including advertisements, promotions and announcements." Another diversion was romance -- whether it was the arranged marriage or "the flirt" which produced marriages that came about "through love." Stein recounts one arranged marriage, which didn't work out so well, and recounts how young people set about to make matches on their own. This is an excerpt >from a longer chapter. You can read the full chapter on this page: https://bit.ly/2zxkdp9 URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2460676433954497 Bruce Drake Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel
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Re: Travelling in reverse direction
#general
Eva Lawrence
When I put a name of interest into the search engine for immigration
lists on Ancestry UK, I was offered a passenger list for a ship entering Liverpool. at a date near the ones Madeline Isenberg is interested in. haven't looked to see how extensive their database is, but there seems a possibility that she will strike lucky, as this was a recognised route connecting with Poland. Eva Lawrence St Albans, UK
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Travelling in reverse direction
#general
Eva Lawrence
When I put a name of interest into the search engine for immigration
lists on Ancestry UK, I was offered a passenger list for a ship entering Liverpool. at a date near the ones Madeline Isenberg is interested in. haven't looked to see how extensive their database is, but there seems a possibility that she will strike lucky, as this was a recognised route connecting with Poland. Eva Lawrence St Albans, UK
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Re: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions?
#galicia
Barbara Ellman
Madeleine Isenberg asked about determining when an ancestor returned
to Europe. As there are no records of those leaving the US in the US, I was able to determine the departure year for my great-grandmother using her returning manifest. In 1897, the manifest for her return voyage had a column "Whether ever before in the United State, and if so, when and where". In the case of my great-grandmother, 7 years and NY was entered. Knowing when she had originally arrived in NY, I could determine that she had been out of NY for 3 years and had left the US in 1894. As manifests were not standardized until 1906, this column may not appear on all manifests, but if may be on the one of your relative arriving in the US on his second voyage. -- Barbara Ellman Secaucus NJ Researching ELLMAN, COIRA in Minkovtsy, Ukraine GOLDSTEIN, HIRSCHHORN, BUCHWALD in Dolyna, Ukraine KAGLE, FASS in Ulanow, Poland HASSMAN, SONENTHALER, DAUERMAN and several others in Drohobycz & Boryslaw, Uklraine
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Re: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions?
#galicia
Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
"So I'm trying to find out when he returned to Poland: 1903? 1904?
Unless I can find some passenger lists as indicated, it is a real puzzle." My 2nd g uncle came to the US 3 or 4 times before bringing his family. There was not enough 'culture' for him, apparently. I even caught him working for my ggrandfather on a census. But there are no passenger lists back. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions?
#general
Barbara Ellman
Madeleine Isenberg asked about determining when an ancestor returned
to Europe. As there are no records of those leaving the US in the US, I was able to determine the departure year for my great-grandmother using her returning manifest. In 1897, the manifest for her return voyage had a column "Whether ever before in the United State, and if so, when and where". In the case of my great-grandmother, 7 years and NY was entered. Knowing when she had originally arrived in NY, I could determine that she had been out of NY for 3 years and had left the US in 1894. As manifests were not standardized until 1906, this column may not appear on all manifests, but if may be on the one of your relative arriving in the US on his second voyage. -- Barbara Ellman Secaucus NJ Researching ELLMAN, COIRA in Minkovtsy, Ukraine GOLDSTEIN, HIRSCHHORN, BUCHWALD in Dolyna, Ukraine KAGLE, FASS in Ulanow, Poland HASSMAN, SONENTHALER, DAUERMAN and several others in Drohobycz & Boryslaw, Uklraine
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