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Re: Subject: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions? #galicia

Barbara Ellman
 

Madeleine Isenberg asked about determining when an ancestor returned
to Europe. As there are no records of those leaving the US in the US, I was
able to determine the departure year for my great-grandmother using her
returning manifest.

In 1897, the manifest for her return voyage had a column "Whether ever
before in the United State, and if so, when and where." In the case of my
great-grandmother, 7 years and NY was entered. Knowing when she had
originally arrived in NY, I could determine that she had been out of NY for
3 years and had left the US in 1894.

As manifests were not standardized until 1906, this column may not
appear on all manifests, but if may be on the one of your relative arriving
in the US on his second voyage.

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ

Researching ELLMAN, COIRA in Minkovtsy, Ukraine
GOLDSTEIN, HIRSCHHORN, BUCHWALD in Dolyna, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS in Ulanow, Poland
HASSMAN, SONENTHALER, DAUERMAN and several others in
Drohobycz & Boryslaw, Ukraine


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Subject: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions? #galicia

Barbara Ellman
 

Madeleine Isenberg asked about determining when an ancestor returned
to Europe. As there are no records of those leaving the US in the US, I was
able to determine the departure year for my great-grandmother using her
returning manifest.

In 1897, the manifest for her return voyage had a column "Whether ever
before in the United State, and if so, when and where." In the case of my
great-grandmother, 7 years and NY was entered. Knowing when she had
originally arrived in NY, I could determine that she had been out of NY for
3 years and had left the US in 1894.

As manifests were not standardized until 1906, this column may not
appear on all manifests, but if may be on the one of your relative arriving
in the US on his second voyage.

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ

Researching ELLMAN, COIRA in Minkovtsy, Ukraine
GOLDSTEIN, HIRSCHHORN, BUCHWALD in Dolyna, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS in Ulanow, Poland
HASSMAN, SONENTHALER, DAUERMAN and several others in
Drohobycz & Boryslaw, Ukraine


Jews in elite prep schools? #general

David Laskin
 

I'm trying to find out when Jewish students were first admitted to the
nation's leading prep and boarding schools -- places like Andover and
Exeter, St. Paul's, Deerfield Academy, and also NYC-based private day
schools like Horace Mann, Dalton, Collegiate, etc.
David Laskin, Seattle, WA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jews in elite prep schools? #general

David Laskin
 

I'm trying to find out when Jewish students were first admitted to the
nation's leading prep and boarding schools -- places like Andover and
Exeter, St. Paul's, Deerfield Academy, and also NYC-based private day
schools like Horace Mann, Dalton, Collegiate, etc.
David Laskin, Seattle, WA


(Canada) Ancestry Free Access Occupational Records Through September 2 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Ancestry Canada is offering free access to their occupational records
through September 2 11:59 PM ET in honor of Labor Day. Registration is
required-with name, email address and password. No credit card information
is requested. If you try to access the featured collection after the free
access period ends you will be invited to subscribe to Ancestry's World
Deluxe membership. That is also true if you try to access records not
included in the featured collection. Occupational records include nursing
registers, railway employment, medical registers, merchant seamen death
records and more. As occupation is included in census and voters lists these
records appear in the featured collection. To access the website and
registration go to: https://www.ancestry.ca/cs/labourday

To see the featured collections go to:
https://www.ancestry.ca/search/categories/labor_day_canada

Once the record(s) you request appear, you can save it to your computer by
clicking on the green save button on the upper right corner. The tool icon
on the right will let your print or download to your computer.

If you click on the 14-day free trial, that is not the Labor Day Free Access
and you will be required to provide your credit card information.

I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the
information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Canada) Ancestry Free Access Occupational Records Through September 2 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Ancestry Canada is offering free access to their occupational records
through September 2 11:59 PM ET in honor of Labor Day. Registration is
required-with name, email address and password. No credit card information
is requested. If you try to access the featured collection after the free
access period ends you will be invited to subscribe to Ancestry's World
Deluxe membership. That is also true if you try to access records not
included in the featured collection. Occupational records include nursing
registers, railway employment, medical registers, merchant seamen death
records and more. As occupation is included in census and voters lists these
records appear in the featured collection. To access the website and
registration go to: https://www.ancestry.ca/cs/labourday

To see the featured collections go to:
https://www.ancestry.ca/search/categories/labor_day_canada

Once the record(s) you request appear, you can save it to your computer by
clicking on the green save button on the upper right corner. The tool icon
on the right will let your print or download to your computer.

If you click on the 14-day free trial, that is not the Labor Day Free Access
and you will be required to provide your credit card information.

I have no affiliation with Ancestry and am posting this solely for the
information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake
 

"The horizon for the young Jewish common people was very limited,"
writes Enoch Stein in a chapter on the small town of Raguva in
northeastern Lithuania (>from the Yizkor book of "Lite," the Yiddish
word for Lithuania). Work could be scarce and one of the respites of
life was the arrival of the newspapers which were devoured ">from the
first page to the last, including advertisements, promotions and
announcements." Another diversion was romance -- whether it was the
arranged marriage or "the flirt" which produced marriages that came
about "through love." Stein recounts one arranged marriage, which
didn't work out so well, and recounts how young people set about to
make matches on their own. This is an excerpt >from a longer chapter.
You can read the full chapter on this page: https://bit.ly/2zxkdp9

URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2460676433954497

Bruce Drake

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake
 

"The horizon for the young Jewish common people was very limited,"
writes Enoch Stein in a chapter on the small town of Raguva in
northeastern Lithuania (>from the Yizkor book of "Lite," the Yiddish
word for Lithuania). Work could be scarce and one of the respites of
life was the arrival of the newspapers which were devoured ">from the
first page to the last, including advertisements, promotions and
announcements." Another diversion was romance -- whether it was the
arranged marriage or "the flirt" which produced marriages that came
about "through love." Stein recounts one arranged marriage, which
didn't work out so well, and recounts how young people set about to
make matches on their own. This is an excerpt >from a longer chapter.
You can read the full chapter on this page: https://bit.ly/2zxkdp9

URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2460676433954497

Bruce Drake

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


Re: Travelling in reverse direction #general

Eva Lawrence
 

When I put a name of interest into the search engine for immigration
lists on Ancestry UK, I was offered a passenger list for a ship
entering Liverpool. at a date near the ones Madeline Isenberg is
interested in. haven't looked to see how extensive their database is,
but there seems a possibility that she will strike lucky, as this was
a recognised route connecting with Poland.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Travelling in reverse direction #general

Eva Lawrence
 

When I put a name of interest into the search engine for immigration
lists on Ancestry UK, I was offered a passenger list for a ship
entering Liverpool. at a date near the ones Madeline Isenberg is
interested in. haven't looked to see how extensive their database is,
but there seems a possibility that she will strike lucky, as this was
a recognised route connecting with Poland.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK


Re: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions? #galicia

Barbara Ellman
 

Madeleine Isenberg asked about determining when an ancestor returned
to Europe. As there are no records of those leaving the US in the US,
I was able to determine the departure year for my great-grandmother
using her returning manifest.

In 1897, the manifest for her return voyage had a column "Whether ever
before in the United State, and if so, when and where". In the case
of my great-grandmother, 7 years and NY was entered. Knowing when she
had originally arrived in NY, I could determine that she had been out
of NY for 3 years and had left the US in 1894.

As manifests were not standardized until 1906, this column may not
appear on all manifests, but if may be on the one of your relative
arriving in the US on his second voyage.
--
Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ

Researching ELLMAN, COIRA in Minkovtsy, Ukraine
GOLDSTEIN, HIRSCHHORN, BUCHWALD in Dolyna, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS in Ulanow, Poland
HASSMAN, SONENTHALER, DAUERMAN and several others in Drohobycz &
Boryslaw, Uklraine


Re: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions? #galicia

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

"So I'm trying to find out when he returned to Poland: 1903? 1904?
Unless I can find some passenger lists as indicated, it is a real
puzzle."

My 2nd g uncle came to the US 3 or 4 times before bringing his family.
There was not enough 'culture' for him, apparently. I even caught him
working for my ggrandfather on a census.

But there are no passenger lists back.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions? #general

Barbara Ellman
 

Madeleine Isenberg asked about determining when an ancestor returned
to Europe. As there are no records of those leaving the US in the US,
I was able to determine the departure year for my great-grandmother
using her returning manifest.

In 1897, the manifest for her return voyage had a column "Whether ever
before in the United State, and if so, when and where". In the case
of my great-grandmother, 7 years and NY was entered. Knowing when she
had originally arrived in NY, I could determine that she had been out
of NY for 3 years and had left the US in 1894.

As manifests were not standardized until 1906, this column may not
appear on all manifests, but if may be on the one of your relative
arriving in the US on his second voyage.
--
Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ

Researching ELLMAN, COIRA in Minkovtsy, Ukraine
GOLDSTEIN, HIRSCHHORN, BUCHWALD in Dolyna, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS in Ulanow, Poland
HASSMAN, SONENTHALER, DAUERMAN and several others in Drohobycz &
Boryslaw, Uklraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Passenger Lists -- Reverse Travel Directions? #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

"So I'm trying to find out when he returned to Poland: 1903? 1904?
Unless I can find some passenger lists as indicated, it is a real
puzzle."

My 2nd g uncle came to the US 3 or 4 times before bringing his family.
There was not enough 'culture' for him, apparently. I even caught him
working for my ggrandfather on a census.

But there are no passenger lists back.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


MyHeritage Free Access to US and Canadian Censuses Through September 2, 2019 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

In celebration of Labor Day, MyHeritage is offering free access to 740
million census records on their SuperSearchT for their U.S. and Canadian
records collection. The deadline for access is September 2, 2019 11:59 PM CT
. I was able to access without registering. If you are asked to register it
is only name, email address and password, "no" credit card information is
requested for this free offer.

For US census collection go to:
https://www.myheritage.com/research/catalog/category-1100/u.s.-census

For Canadian Census go to:
https://www.myheritage.com/research/catalog/category-1000/census-voter-lists?location=Canada

You will see a green "free" sign next to the census year. If you try to
access collections not included in the special offer you will be invited to
subscribe. If you try to access the free collections after the special
offer you will be invited to subscribe.

For more information see the MyHeritage blog at:
https://blog.myheritage.com/2019/08/740-million-free-census-records-for-labor-day

I have no affiliation with MyHeritage and am posting this solely for the
information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MyHeritage Free Access to US and Canadian Censuses Through September 2, 2019 #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

In celebration of Labor Day, MyHeritage is offering free access to 740
million census records on their SuperSearchT for their U.S. and Canadian
records collection. The deadline for access is September 2, 2019 11:59 PM CT
. I was able to access without registering. If you are asked to register it
is only name, email address and password, "no" credit card information is
requested for this free offer.

For US census collection go to:
https://www.myheritage.com/research/catalog/category-1100/u.s.-census

For Canadian Census go to:
https://www.myheritage.com/research/catalog/category-1000/census-voter-lists?location=Canada

You will see a green "free" sign next to the census year. If you try to
access collections not included in the special offer you will be invited to
subscribe. If you try to access the free collections after the special
offer you will be invited to subscribe.

For more information see the MyHeritage blog at:
https://blog.myheritage.com/2019/08/740-million-free-census-records-for-labor-day

I have no affiliation with MyHeritage and am posting this solely for the
information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


INTRO - researching Sally LEVI family from Berlin and TODTMANN family from Rawitsch, Posen, Prussia #germany

Tom Koppel <tomkoppel@...>
 

Hello GerSig,

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for years.
I consider myself to be intermediate in doing German Jewish Genealogy
research. I live in Potomac, Maryland which is just outside of
Washington DC. My native language is Spanish and I also know English (my
best language) and German. I consider myself advanced in using a
computer. My experience in using the Internet is intermediate.

Here's some information about my grandparents' families:

The KOPPEL Family is traced back to Hamburg, Germany at least to the
late 1700s.  It was then that Jews were compelled to add civil names
instead of using patronymics as their last names.  Civil names make it a
lot easier to trace back. It is because of a lack of last names that
makes it so difficult to trace our roots further back. Hirsch bar KOPPEL
was born in Hamburg around the time of the American Revolution. My great
grandmother, Amalie KOPPEL, nee HEILBUT was born in Hamburg and I would
love to connect her to some of the many HEILBUT family >from Hamburg.

The PARTOS Family, for my paternal grandmother is traced back to the
Pest side of the Danube in Hungary. It is there that my grandmother's
father, Bela, changed his name >from POLITZER to make the name more
Hungarian. Ironically they moved to Hamburg when my grandmother was very
young. I'm hopeful of tracing this family further back. At this point we
know that Moritz POLITZER, my grandmother's great grandfather was born
in 1839 and learned how to manufacture orthopedic appliances >from his
father. This trade was in the POLITZER/PARTOS family for at least 5
generations and included my great grandfather, Bela.

The WELLISCH Family is my maternal grandfather's family.  The WELLISCH
family comes >from Kaposvar in Hungary where the first Jews like my
family's arrived in the early 1800s.  I am hopeful we will find where
they came from. Samuel and Rebekah WELLISCH were born in the late 1700s
in Tab, Hungary which is in the region of Kaposvar where the family
eventually settled before moving to Germany sometime in the early 1900s.
My grandfather's mother was Tilly MARX. Her mother was Sofie, born in
the KASSEWITZ family. Sofie KASSEWITZ's grandmother was Sara Chayle WEIL
who was a direct descendant of the famous rabbinical WEIL family in
Germany. Twelve generations earlier, another Sara WEIL married the son
of Meir ben Baruch of ROTHENBERG (MaHaRam) whose great grandmother was
Miriam bat RASHI the daughter of Rashi. So our family is directly
descendant >from the famous rabbi known as Rashi (1040-1105) and has
lived in Germany (and some in France) since the 10th Century when parts
of the KALONYMOS family, ancestors of Rashi's mother, moved >from Lucca,
Italy to Mainz, Germany.

The DELLER Family is my maternal grandmother's family.  The DELLERs
lived in Bavarian Swabia in Germany in the town of Fischach since at
least the mid 1700s and intermarried with other Jewish families in
Fischach and surrounding towns. This is the family that produced the
famous Succah which is still displayed in the Israel Museum in
Jerusalem.  Samuel (Shmuel) DELLER was born in 1740 and was a horse
trader.  His son, Jakob, was a spice merchant in Fischach. His wife's
father, Naphtali FRAENKEL, came >from Ichenhausen, just a few miles away
from Fischach.  Jakob, my grandmother's great grandfather, started the
firm of Jakob DELLER & Sons which lasted until the mid-1930's when it
was forced out of business during the Nazi era.

****My primary research goals now are to find my wife's father's
family.  He was born Peter LEVI in Breslau. His parents were Kurt LEVI
who was born in Berlin and his mother, Edith SCHNITZER was born in Breslau.
 Edith SCHNITZER's parents were Emil Salomon SCHNITZER who was born in
Szollos-Gyorok, Hungary and Gertrud TODTMANN who was born in Rawitsch,
Posen, Prussia.

Tom Koppel, Potomac, Maryland JGID# 770183 tomkoppel@gmail.com


German SIG #Germany INTRO - researching Sally LEVI family from Berlin and TODTMANN family from Rawitsch, Posen, Prussia #germany

Tom Koppel <tomkoppel@...>
 

Hello GerSig,

I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for years.
I consider myself to be intermediate in doing German Jewish Genealogy
research. I live in Potomac, Maryland which is just outside of
Washington DC. My native language is Spanish and I also know English (my
best language) and German. I consider myself advanced in using a
computer. My experience in using the Internet is intermediate.

Here's some information about my grandparents' families:

The KOPPEL Family is traced back to Hamburg, Germany at least to the
late 1700s.  It was then that Jews were compelled to add civil names
instead of using patronymics as their last names.  Civil names make it a
lot easier to trace back. It is because of a lack of last names that
makes it so difficult to trace our roots further back. Hirsch bar KOPPEL
was born in Hamburg around the time of the American Revolution. My great
grandmother, Amalie KOPPEL, nee HEILBUT was born in Hamburg and I would
love to connect her to some of the many HEILBUT family >from Hamburg.

The PARTOS Family, for my paternal grandmother is traced back to the
Pest side of the Danube in Hungary. It is there that my grandmother's
father, Bela, changed his name >from POLITZER to make the name more
Hungarian. Ironically they moved to Hamburg when my grandmother was very
young. I'm hopeful of tracing this family further back. At this point we
know that Moritz POLITZER, my grandmother's great grandfather was born
in 1839 and learned how to manufacture orthopedic appliances >from his
father. This trade was in the POLITZER/PARTOS family for at least 5
generations and included my great grandfather, Bela.

The WELLISCH Family is my maternal grandfather's family.  The WELLISCH
family comes >from Kaposvar in Hungary where the first Jews like my
family's arrived in the early 1800s.  I am hopeful we will find where
they came from. Samuel and Rebekah WELLISCH were born in the late 1700s
in Tab, Hungary which is in the region of Kaposvar where the family
eventually settled before moving to Germany sometime in the early 1900s.
My grandfather's mother was Tilly MARX. Her mother was Sofie, born in
the KASSEWITZ family. Sofie KASSEWITZ's grandmother was Sara Chayle WEIL
who was a direct descendant of the famous rabbinical WEIL family in
Germany. Twelve generations earlier, another Sara WEIL married the son
of Meir ben Baruch of ROTHENBERG (MaHaRam) whose great grandmother was
Miriam bat RASHI the daughter of Rashi. So our family is directly
descendant >from the famous rabbi known as Rashi (1040-1105) and has
lived in Germany (and some in France) since the 10th Century when parts
of the KALONYMOS family, ancestors of Rashi's mother, moved >from Lucca,
Italy to Mainz, Germany.

The DELLER Family is my maternal grandmother's family.  The DELLERs
lived in Bavarian Swabia in Germany in the town of Fischach since at
least the mid 1700s and intermarried with other Jewish families in
Fischach and surrounding towns. This is the family that produced the
famous Succah which is still displayed in the Israel Museum in
Jerusalem.  Samuel (Shmuel) DELLER was born in 1740 and was a horse
trader.  His son, Jakob, was a spice merchant in Fischach. His wife's
father, Naphtali FRAENKEL, came >from Ichenhausen, just a few miles away
from Fischach.  Jakob, my grandmother's great grandfather, started the
firm of Jakob DELLER & Sons which lasted until the mid-1930's when it
was forced out of business during the Nazi era.

****My primary research goals now are to find my wife's father's
family.  He was born Peter LEVI in Breslau. His parents were Kurt LEVI
who was born in Berlin and his mother, Edith SCHNITZER was born in Breslau.
 Edith SCHNITZER's parents were Emil Salomon SCHNITZER who was born in
Szollos-Gyorok, Hungary and Gertrud TODTMANN who was born in Rawitsch,
Posen, Prussia.

Tom Koppel, Potomac, Maryland JGID# 770183 tomkoppel@gmail.com


Any English person got dual citizenship with Austria? #austria-czech

yjward@...
 

Is there any English person on the forum who has gained dual citizenship
with Austria as a descendant of a victim of Nazi persecution.

Both my parents were Austrian when I was born on 12/08/1945. My father and
grandparents were Austrian citizens who were Jewish. They were forced to
leave Austria because they had to fear and suffer persecution by the NSDAP
and/or the authorities of the Third Reich.

I have all the documentation and am in the middle of applying. I am
wondering about other people's experiences.

Kind regards

Yvonne Ward


Re: austriaczech digest: August 21, 2019 #austria-czech

rfc974@...
 

As I understand things there are two sets of documents (and I'm
posting to the list so I can potentially be corrected and learn more).

1. The 4 page exit questionnaire that people filed with the IKW when
the IKW was reopened in late 1938(?). The Nazis initially shut down
the IKW, then realized they wanted some bureaucratic mechanism to
manage the Jewish property confiscation/deportation process and
reopened it. Jews who had not yet fled were encouraged to fill in the
questionnaire at the IKW listing relatives abroad, where they'd like
to go and what skills they had.

2. The actual stack of documents that one had to file to get a visa --
showing that you'd paid off all your bills and had only a modest sum
of money still in your possession.

The first set of documents (the exit questionnaires) have been copied
and can be examined at the US Holocaust Museum. There's an index that
the staff can consult for you and then you dig into the microfilm of
the questionnaires -- I note that matching the index to the microfilm
is *hard* and I've only succeeded about 75% of the time in finding the
questionnaire.

My understanding is that the exit document stacks generally don't
survive -- they went to Eichmann's office and didn't survive the war.
The only sets I know of are for folks who decided instead to cross a
border illegally but kept their paperwork just in case. But I've also
heard of various IKW document caches being discovered and have
wondered if the exit documents were in those caches.

Hoping this is useful,

Craig

Subject: Vienna Kultusgemeinde
From: ruthkur@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 15:57:37 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 3

Can anyone tell me the best way to get documents and/or information >from the Vienna
Kultusgemeinde? I am looking for the "exit documents" that my late parents must have filed in
order to leave Austria in 1939. My late mother was Elsa (nee Kleiner) Kurschner and my late
father was Nuchim (sometimes Norbert) Kurschner. We lived in the Second District on
Lilienbrungasse. thank you all. Ruth Kurschner
--
Craig Partridge

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