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Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

My understanding is that the legends of Sephardic roots for Latvian and
Lithuanian Jews are of recent origin, likely late 19th century, as part
of the fad of inventing claims of Sephardic origin around that time. I
have not seen a single case with evidence before that time.

See also John M. Efron, German Jewry and the Allure of the Sephardic
(2015).

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

My understanding is that the legends of Sephardic roots for Latvian and
Lithuanian Jews are of recent origin, likely late 19th century, as part
of the fad of inventing claims of Sephardic origin around that time. I
have not seen a single case with evidence before that time.

See also John M. Efron, German Jewry and the Allure of the Sephardic
(2015).

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


Re: Czech Holocaust Prisoners #general

tom
 

Based on what was done to the deportees >from Hungary, most were
probably never registered as "prisoners", because they were led
straight >from the rail cars to the gas chambers. Only the ones were
selected as suitable for slave labour were issued numbers and recorded.

....... tom klein, toronto

"Lande" <pdlande@starpower.net> wrote:

I am trying to determine the origin/basis of a number of pages, apparently
taken >from a book. The heading on the first page is Seznam csl. prislisniku
K.L.Dachau. The material consists of an extensive list of names with
additional information, e.g. Absolon Josef, farar, Lesna u Val Mezirci.
While religion is not given, some of the names indicate that they were
Jewish, others not. The mystery is compounded by the fact that most of
these names do not appear in Dachau records.

I would appreciate any suggestions as to the book >from which this list was
apparently taken, and why a "Dachau" list apparently contains many names of
persons who never entered Dachau.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Czech Holocaust Prisoners #general

tom
 

Based on what was done to the deportees >from Hungary, most were
probably never registered as "prisoners", because they were led
straight >from the rail cars to the gas chambers. Only the ones were
selected as suitable for slave labour were issued numbers and recorded.

....... tom klein, toronto

"Lande" <pdlande@starpower.net> wrote:

I am trying to determine the origin/basis of a number of pages, apparently
taken >from a book. The heading on the first page is Seznam csl. prislisniku
K.L.Dachau. The material consists of an extensive list of names with
additional information, e.g. Absolon Josef, farar, Lesna u Val Mezirci.
While religion is not given, some of the names indicate that they were
Jewish, others not. The mystery is compounded by the fact that most of
these names do not appear in Dachau records.

I would appreciate any suggestions as to the book >from which this list was
apparently taken, and why a "Dachau" list apparently contains many names of
persons who never entered Dachau.


Rabbi Mordekhai "Baal Halevushim" - Descendants in Turets #rabbinic

Alex Girshovich
 

Dear Group Mates,

I am working on my family roots, which led me to Rabbi Yosef of
Turets, near Nowvogrudok (today's Belarus). who was claimed to be the
5th generation of Rabbi Mordekhai JAFFE "Baal Halevushim".
[Source: Tidhar, D. (1952). Entsiklopedyah le-halutse ha-yishuv
u-vonav (Vol. 5, p. 2276). Retrieved from
http://www.tidhar.tourolib.org/tidhar/view/5/2276]

At this point, I am missing the continuous connection between the two
rabbis. Most probably, It was via R. Mordekhai's son Arye Leib. I
will be happy to receive any assistance or hints to resolve this brick
wall.

BR,
Alex Girshovich
Jerusalem, Israel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi Mordekhai "Baal Halevushim" - Descendants in Turets #rabbinic

Alex Girshovich
 

Dear Group Mates,

I am working on my family roots, which led me to Rabbi Yosef of
Turets, near Nowvogrudok (today's Belarus). who was claimed to be the
5th generation of Rabbi Mordekhai JAFFE "Baal Halevushim".
[Source: Tidhar, D. (1952). Entsiklopedyah le-halutse ha-yishuv
u-vonav (Vol. 5, p. 2276). Retrieved from
http://www.tidhar.tourolib.org/tidhar/view/5/2276]

At this point, I am missing the continuous connection between the two
rabbis. Most probably, It was via R. Mordekhai's son Arye Leib. I
will be happy to receive any assistance or hints to resolve this brick
wall.

BR,
Alex Girshovich
Jerusalem, Israel


Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

Alex Shapiro <alex@...>
 

Dear Jeff,

Many Jews in Latvia, like part of my family, are of Portuguese origin.
Regardless of the fact that Latvia was at one stage under Russian
control, there are many Jews, including Russian Jews, that have Spanish
- Portuguese roots. At one time the basement prayer hall in the Riga
synagogue was allocated for Sephardic and Hasiddic style prayers. If
you're really curious about the background of your family I'd suggest
making the DNA test that will show where your family roots came from.

Shana Tova - have a good and blessed New Year,
Alexander David Shapiro
Member of the Sephardic congregation Torah Va Chessed in Houston

^^^
From: Jeff Canin <jeffcanin07@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:29:10 +0200

...I'm trying to determine if my
family in Latvia could have originally come >from Spain or Portugal
after the Jewish populations there were expelled in the 1500s. My
grandfather, Joseph Chanin (Hebrew spelling would be chet nun yud nun)
was born in Varaklani around 1872. The English spelling for his name
could be Hanin, Kanin, Khanin or Canin. Joe always said he was
Sephardic and the family originally came >from Portugal, but I can't
find any evidence that Jews >from Portugal made it to Latvia. His
father was Mendel Chanin and grandfather, born around 1828 was Shmul
Ber (Samuel) Chanin. Are the Latvian Jews generally considered to be
Sephardic?...


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

Alex Shapiro <alex@...>
 

Dear Jeff,

Many Jews in Latvia, like part of my family, are of Portuguese origin.
Regardless of the fact that Latvia was at one stage under Russian
control, there are many Jews, including Russian Jews, that have Spanish
- Portuguese roots. At one time the basement prayer hall in the Riga
synagogue was allocated for Sephardic and Hasiddic style prayers. If
you're really curious about the background of your family I'd suggest
making the DNA test that will show where your family roots came from.

Shana Tova - have a good and blessed New Year,
Alexander David Shapiro
Member of the Sephardic congregation Torah Va Chessed in Houston

^^^
From: Jeff Canin <jeffcanin07@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:29:10 +0200

...I'm trying to determine if my
family in Latvia could have originally come >from Spain or Portugal
after the Jewish populations there were expelled in the 1500s. My
grandfather, Joseph Chanin (Hebrew spelling would be chet nun yud nun)
was born in Varaklani around 1872. The English spelling for his name
could be Hanin, Kanin, Khanin or Canin. Joe always said he was
Sephardic and the family originally came >from Portugal, but I can't
find any evidence that Jews >from Portugal made it to Latvia. His
father was Mendel Chanin and grandfather, born around 1828 was Shmul
Ber (Samuel) Chanin. Are the Latvian Jews generally considered to be
Sephardic?...


Prerov Jewish Cemetery: New Gideon Klein memorial #austria-czech

david.fligg@...
 

SIG members may be interested to know that a memorial plaque was
dedicated to the musician Gideon Klein on 12 September in the Jewish
Cemetery in Prerov. The Chair of the Federation of Jewish Communities,
Petr Papousek, recited Tehillim and El Maleh Rachamim, and local civic
leaders were in attendance and spoke. A commemorative concert was
later held. Photographs can be found on the town's website, here:
https://m.prerov.eu/cs/o-prerove/fotografie-z-prerova/fotografie-z-akci/mesto-prerov-2019/gido-se-vraci-domu-pripominka-100-vyroci-narozeni-hudebniho-skladatele-gideona-kleina.html

Dr. David Fligg
Leeds, UK
david.fligg@gmail.com


Gesher Galicia at Gratz College (Philadelphia metropolitan area) #austria-czech

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Join us for the event hosted by Gratz College, the oldest independent
and pluralistic college for Jewish studies in North America. The
program will feature the talk by Andrew Zalewski, Gesher Galicia board
member.

Title: "Jewish Galicia: Living Together and Apart"
Thursday, October 3, 2019
Gratz College, 7605 Old York Road, Melrose Park, PA 19027
12:15 p.m. to 1:45 p.m.

To register, please follow the link:
https://www.gratz.edu/event/lunch-learn-jewish-galicia

SYNOPSIS
Join us as we =E2=80=9Center=E2=80=9D 19th century homes to meet the Jewish
inhabitants of Galicia (home to the largest Jewish community in the
Austro-Hungarian Empire). Gesher Galicia=E2=80=99s extensive archival
collections, Austrian censuses, postcards and maps, together with
newspaper clippings and pamphlets, bring to life Jewish presence in
cities, such as Lw=C3=B3w and Krak=C3=B3w, and other, smaller towns. Market
squares, streets, and schools=E2=80=94 situated close to synagogues and
churches=E2=80=94provided shared spaces for Jews, Poles, and Ukrainians.
Reconstruct life of shared spaces and the richness of the cultural
heritage of the former Galicia.

SPEAKER
Andrew Zalewski is vice president of Gesher Galicia and author of two
books on Austrian Galicia. Andrew is a frequent speaker at Jewish
genealogical societies and cultural and academic institutions in the
US and abroad. His talks focus on Galicia, with unique records
providing a background for his description of a large Jewish community
that once lived there.


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Suchomasty 10 #austria-czech

morav@...
 

Hi All,

I belong to the Czech genealogy Facebook group where someone today
asked about records for a family named Ferda in house #10 in
Suchomasty in Beroun Kreis. She provided a link to a Roman Catholic
ledger page at http://ebadatelna.soapraha.cz which definitely seems to
indicate that the Ferdas were living in Suchomasty 10 around the year
1787.

What is interesting for me is that I have records for a Jewish family
- Hecht - living at Suchomasty #10 some years later (around 1860).
This got me wondering when the Hechts moved there and if somewhere
there aren't records of real estate sales that would be of interest to
genealogists. Can anyone point me to them?

Thanks,

Philip Moravcik


interpretation help #austria-czech

morav@...
 

Hi, Can anyone make head or tails of the notation on my ancestor
Isak/Israel Schwartz' birth matrik to be found at:
http://www.badatelna.eu/fond/241/reprodukce/?zaznamId=375958&reproId=436895

It looks like they crossed out his surname and put "Weil" - his
mother's maiden name.
Any help would be appreciated.


Philip Moravcik

You can't buy happiness, but you can buy coffee.


and another one for his sister #austria-czech

morav@...
 

A few pages later there is some similar mysterious notation on the
birth matrik for Isak/Israel's sister Barbora. Once again "Schwartz"
has been crossed out and "Weil" (mother's maiden name_ written in.

http://www.badatelna.eu/fond/241/reprodukce/?zaznamId=375958&reproId=436897

If you can figure out what was going on with this family I'd be very
interested to find out.

Thanks again.


Philip Moravcik

You can't buy happiness, but you can buy coffee.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Prerov Jewish Cemetery: New Gideon Klein memorial #austria-czech

david.fligg@...
 

SIG members may be interested to know that a memorial plaque was
dedicated to the musician Gideon Klein on 12 September in the Jewish
Cemetery in Prerov. The Chair of the Federation of Jewish Communities,
Petr Papousek, recited Tehillim and El Maleh Rachamim, and local civic
leaders were in attendance and spoke. A commemorative concert was
later held. Photographs can be found on the town's website, here:
https://m.prerov.eu/cs/o-prerove/fotografie-z-prerova/fotografie-z-akci/mesto-prerov-2019/gido-se-vraci-domu-pripominka-100-vyroci-narozeni-hudebniho-skladatele-gideona-kleina.html

Dr. David Fligg
Leeds, UK
david.fligg@gmail.com


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Gesher Galicia at Gratz College (Philadelphia metropolitan area) #austria-czech

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Join us for the event hosted by Gratz College, the oldest independent
and pluralistic college for Jewish studies in North America. The
program will feature the talk by Andrew Zalewski, Gesher Galicia board
member.

Title: "Jewish Galicia: Living Together and Apart"
Thursday, October 3, 2019
Gratz College, 7605 Old York Road, Melrose Park, PA 19027
12:15 p.m. to 1:45 p.m.

To register, please follow the link:
https://www.gratz.edu/event/lunch-learn-jewish-galicia

SYNOPSIS
Join us as we =E2=80=9Center=E2=80=9D 19th century homes to meet the Jewish
inhabitants of Galicia (home to the largest Jewish community in the
Austro-Hungarian Empire). Gesher Galicia=E2=80=99s extensive archival
collections, Austrian censuses, postcards and maps, together with
newspaper clippings and pamphlets, bring to life Jewish presence in
cities, such as Lw=C3=B3w and Krak=C3=B3w, and other, smaller towns. Market
squares, streets, and schools=E2=80=94 situated close to synagogues and
churches=E2=80=94provided shared spaces for Jews, Poles, and Ukrainians.
Reconstruct life of shared spaces and the richness of the cultural
heritage of the former Galicia.

SPEAKER
Andrew Zalewski is vice president of Gesher Galicia and author of two
books on Austrian Galicia. Andrew is a frequent speaker at Jewish
genealogical societies and cultural and academic institutions in the
US and abroad. His talks focus on Galicia, with unique records
providing a background for his description of a large Jewish community
that once lived there.


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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Suchomasty 10 #austria-czech

morav@...
 

Hi All,

I belong to the Czech genealogy Facebook group where someone today
asked about records for a family named Ferda in house #10 in
Suchomasty in Beroun Kreis. She provided a link to a Roman Catholic
ledger page at http://ebadatelna.soapraha.cz which definitely seems to
indicate that the Ferdas were living in Suchomasty 10 around the year
1787.

What is interesting for me is that I have records for a Jewish family
- Hecht - living at Suchomasty #10 some years later (around 1860).
This got me wondering when the Hechts moved there and if somewhere
there aren't records of real estate sales that would be of interest to
genealogists. Can anyone point me to them?

Thanks,

Philip Moravcik


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech interpretation help #austria-czech

morav@...
 

Hi, Can anyone make head or tails of the notation on my ancestor
Isak/Israel Schwartz' birth matrik to be found at:
http://www.badatelna.eu/fond/241/reprodukce/?zaznamId=375958&reproId=436895

It looks like they crossed out his surname and put "Weil" - his
mother's maiden name.
Any help would be appreciated.


Philip Moravcik

You can't buy happiness, but you can buy coffee.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech and another one for his sister #austria-czech

morav@...
 

A few pages later there is some similar mysterious notation on the
birth matrik for Isak/Israel's sister Barbora. Once again "Schwartz"
has been crossed out and "Weil" (mother's maiden name_ written in.

http://www.badatelna.eu/fond/241/reprodukce/?zaznamId=375958&reproId=436897

If you can figure out what was going on with this family I'd be very
interested to find out.

Thanks again.


Philip Moravcik

You can't buy happiness, but you can buy coffee.


Convention for Dates #austria-czech

Ron Hoenig
 

I agree entirely. Every other former British colony (Im not sure about
Canada) Australian New Zealand and probably South Africa follow the British
norm 2 Sept 2019 for us is 2/9/19. Thus 9/11 is for us 9 Nov 2001 not 11
Sept 2001

Dr Ron Hoenig
Lecturer/Tutor
Journalism
University of South Australia
E: ron.hoenig@unisa.edu.au
E (home) ronhoenig@bigpond.com


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Convention for Dates #austria-czech

Ron Hoenig
 

I agree entirely. Every other former British colony (Im not sure about
Canada) Australian New Zealand and probably South Africa follow the British
norm 2 Sept 2019 for us is 2/9/19. Thus 9/11 is for us 9 Nov 2001 not 11
Sept 2001

Dr Ron Hoenig
Lecturer/Tutor
Journalism
University of South Australia
E: ron.hoenig@unisa.edu.au
E (home) ronhoenig@bigpond.com

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