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ATTN: David & Shirley SHAPIRO-UC-SFO area
#general
DREAME@...
Hi, JewishGenners, can you help?
We recently returned >from a riverboat cruise through Ukraine and we were asked by JOSEPH SHAPIRO of Kanev, Ukraine, if we would post a message to DAVID and SHIRLEY SHAPIRO of the San Francisco area, whom someone may know, as David is connected with the University of California and may be a member of JGS.... JOSEPH SHAPIRO was born Poldilskaya, November 12, 1921. He said that he WAS in touch David and Shirley Shapiro, and then all letters stopped. He would very much like to connect with them again. He mentioned an "agency - HARCO", but I have no idea if it has any connection. I have a photograph of him and his full address. Email Shirley R. Rose directly : Dreame@aol.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ATTN: David & Shirley SHAPIRO-UC-SFO area
#general
DREAME@...
Hi, JewishGenners, can you help?
We recently returned >from a riverboat cruise through Ukraine and we were asked by JOSEPH SHAPIRO of Kanev, Ukraine, if we would post a message to DAVID and SHIRLEY SHAPIRO of the San Francisco area, whom someone may know, as David is connected with the University of California and may be a member of JGS.... JOSEPH SHAPIRO was born Poldilskaya, November 12, 1921. He said that he WAS in touch David and Shirley Shapiro, and then all letters stopped. He would very much like to connect with them again. He mentioned an "agency - HARCO", but I have no idea if it has any connection. I have a photograph of him and his full address. Email Shirley R. Rose directly : Dreame@aol.com
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[Fwd: new "Success Stories" button on JRI-Poland web site]
#poland
Steven A. Zedeck <saz@...>
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JRI Poland #Poland [Fwd: new "Success Stories" button on JRI-Poland web site]
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Steven A. Zedeck <saz@...>
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--------------4DAFA1B1A238BCDE2C3E5786 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- * Steven A. Zedeck Internet: saz@JLC.net * * 25 Cathedral Circle, Nashua, NH 03063 saz@compuserve.com * ********************************************************************* --------------4DAFA1B1A238BCDE2C3E5786 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <35C3CD91.D04F0108@jlc.net> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 22:23:13 -0400 From: "Steven A. Zedeck" <saz@jlc.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JRI-Poland <jri-pl@mail.jewishgen.org> Subject: new "Success Stories" button on JRI-Poland web site Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all: I just added a new button on the main page of the JRI-Poland web site (http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl). The button is entitled "Success Stories". This links to a page that contains many success stories people have written to me or others on the JRI board. Have a look. If you have a success story, feel free to either post it to this list or email it to me. We enjoy reading these as it shows that we are doing the right thing and we are helping many people in their research. Thanks, Steve JRI-Poland Web Master -- * Steven A. Zedeck Internet: saz@JLC.net * * 25 Cathedral Circle, Nashua, NH 03063 saz@compuserve.com * ********************************************************************* --------------4DAFA1B1A238BCDE2C3E5786--
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Belarus Roots
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Michael Fener
Hello my name is Michael, and this is a summary of my Belarus ancestors:
My Maternal Grandmother's parents are supposed to have been >from Minska Gobernia. My G-Grandmother, Rose (Ruchel) KULIK was said to have been born during 1883 in Vselyub outside of Novogrudok. Her parents were Samuel KULIK and Geyla Zelda BASHNIK. Samuel's parents were Abraham Lev KULIK and Bessie (Peshe) BELLSKY. Abraham's father was Samuel KULIK. My G-Grandfather Barnett (Beryl) GOLDBERG was said to have been born in 1875 in Korelichi outside of Novogrudok. His parents were Joseph GOLDBERG and Bessie (Chana Belle) COHEN. My G-Grandparents both came to America. So the information on my G-G-Grandparents is based on what they told my Grandmother as well as info reported on various documents. The info on my G-Grandmother's ancestors, which goes back several more generations is based on word of mouth only. I have not seen documents >from "over there", although I have not concentrated on these branches just yet. I DO rely on the "word of mouth" info, due to the fact that Rose's grandfather lived to be 104 and my grandmother's oldest brother (who was born there) met him as a very young boy. Unfortunately my grandmother's two older brothers passed away several years ago so I have lost the opportunity to question them. Rose had an interest in family history so that also (in my opinion) lends some credibility to her information's accuracy in terms of names. I think that the dates are less reliable. I recently located another branch of KULIKs in California who are descended from Itzchok KULIK, my G-Grandmother's older brother. Itchok's two livingoffspring do vaguely recall hearing the same tree being verbally recounted while they were children in New York. If anyone has seen or heard of any of these names before I would be happy to hear >from you. Regards, Michael Michael Fener New York, USA mfener@ix.netcom.com ------------- Searching ------------- FENER - Hungary FULEP/(FULOP) - Hungary WEISS/(WEISZ) - Hungary MARGULIES/(MARGOLIS) - Galicia MICHAELSON/(MICHALOFSKY) - Russia KULIK/KULIC/KULICK - Russia BASHNICK - Russia
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Belarus Roots
#belarus
Michael Fener
Hello my name is Michael, and this is a summary of my Belarus ancestors:
My Maternal Grandmother's parents are supposed to have been >from Minska Gobernia. My G-Grandmother, Rose (Ruchel) KULIK was said to have been born during 1883 in Vselyub outside of Novogrudok. Her parents were Samuel KULIK and Geyla Zelda BASHNIK. Samuel's parents were Abraham Lev KULIK and Bessie (Peshe) BELLSKY. Abraham's father was Samuel KULIK. My G-Grandfather Barnett (Beryl) GOLDBERG was said to have been born in 1875 in Korelichi outside of Novogrudok. His parents were Joseph GOLDBERG and Bessie (Chana Belle) COHEN. My G-Grandparents both came to America. So the information on my G-G-Grandparents is based on what they told my Grandmother as well as info reported on various documents. The info on my G-Grandmother's ancestors, which goes back several more generations is based on word of mouth only. I have not seen documents >from "over there", although I have not concentrated on these branches just yet. I DO rely on the "word of mouth" info, due to the fact that Rose's grandfather lived to be 104 and my grandmother's oldest brother (who was born there) met him as a very young boy. Unfortunately my grandmother's two older brothers passed away several years ago so I have lost the opportunity to question them. Rose had an interest in family history so that also (in my opinion) lends some credibility to her information's accuracy in terms of names. I think that the dates are less reliable. I recently located another branch of KULIKs in California who are descended from Itzchok KULIK, my G-Grandmother's older brother. Itchok's two livingoffspring do vaguely recall hearing the same tree being verbally recounted while they were children in New York. If anyone has seen or heard of any of these names before I would be happy to hear >from you. Regards, Michael Michael Fener New York, USA mfener@ix.netcom.com ------------- Searching ------------- FENER - Hungary FULEP/(FULOP) - Hungary WEISS/(WEISZ) - Hungary MARGULIES/(MARGOLIS) - Galicia MICHAELSON/(MICHALOFSKY) - Russia KULIK/KULIC/KULICK - Russia BASHNICK - Russia
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Researching LEVIN & CHOMSKY family from Grodno...
#general
Gail Dechter <marvgailsarah@...>
I am new to researching my family & would appreciate any info you might
be able to give me . My father, Irving (Isak) Levin, & his family immigrated >from Grudno to Ellis Island, in approximately 1915 to 1917. My grandmother, Sonya (Chomsky) Levin, died shortly upon arrival during childbirth. I believe she is buried in the Montefiore cemetery in NY. My grandfather, Max Levin & the family moved to Chicago about a year later. I would like info regarding my grandmother & the Chomsky family. I would also appreciate any info on Grudno, & ships & passenger lists sailing >from the area in that time frame. Thank you in advance for your help! Gail..... MODERATOR NOTE: Passenger manifest >from that time frame are a gold mine of information. To find out how to get started with your research, visit the JewishGen homepage, http://www.jewishgen.org click on the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) and print it out! The FAQ is a primer on how to do research and it will guide you to finding records, particularly in the U.S.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching LEVIN & CHOMSKY family from Grodno...
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Gail Dechter <marvgailsarah@...>
I am new to researching my family & would appreciate any info you might
be able to give me . My father, Irving (Isak) Levin, & his family immigrated >from Grudno to Ellis Island, in approximately 1915 to 1917. My grandmother, Sonya (Chomsky) Levin, died shortly upon arrival during childbirth. I believe she is buried in the Montefiore cemetery in NY. My grandfather, Max Levin & the family moved to Chicago about a year later. I would like info regarding my grandmother & the Chomsky family. I would also appreciate any info on Grudno, & ships & passenger lists sailing >from the area in that time frame. Thank you in advance for your help! Gail..... MODERATOR NOTE: Passenger manifest >from that time frame are a gold mine of information. To find out how to get started with your research, visit the JewishGen homepage, http://www.jewishgen.org click on the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) and print it out! The FAQ is a primer on how to do research and it will guide you to finding records, particularly in the U.S.
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Re: TABAK TABACK
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MBernet@...
In a message dated 98-08-04 16:53:00 EDT, nister@cygnus.uwa.edu.au writes:
<< I am interested in hearing >from those with the subject surname and more importantly what their names may have been changed from. I search for the name TABACHOVITZ. >> They were all probably tobacco merchants. My wife's British family had a Tomback relative. Tabachnik is probably another alternative Michael Bernet ***************************** seeking: Bernet: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nürnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria) Königshöfer: >from Welbhausen, Königshofen, Fürth (S. Germany) Altmann: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen (Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland Wolf(f): >from Fürth, Nurnberg, Augsburg, Frankfurt (S Germany), Rotterdam Wolf, Sali (Salomon?) of Rotterdam, murdered by Dr. Petiot in Paris ca 1942 Weil(l), Albert, French hon. consul in Nurnberg, Germany; returned to France 1936/7. Daughters Alice & Yvonne, b ca 1920), his mother was a Bernet Bernet, Albert, b. 1896/7, soldier in German Army (>from Nurnberg), killed near Lille, 1915
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: TABAK TABACK
#general
MBernet@...
In a message dated 98-08-04 16:53:00 EDT, nister@cygnus.uwa.edu.au writes:
<< I am interested in hearing >from those with the subject surname and more importantly what their names may have been changed from. I search for the name TABACHOVITZ. >> They were all probably tobacco merchants. My wife's British family had a Tomback relative. Tabachnik is probably another alternative Michael Bernet ***************************** seeking: Bernet: >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nürnberg, Hirschaid, (Bavaria) Königshöfer: >from Welbhausen, Königshofen, Fürth (S. Germany) Altmann: >from Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan (Posen), Beuthen (Bytom)--Upper Silesia/Poland Wolf(f): >from Fürth, Nurnberg, Augsburg, Frankfurt (S Germany), Rotterdam Wolf, Sali (Salomon?) of Rotterdam, murdered by Dr. Petiot in Paris ca 1942 Weil(l), Albert, French hon. consul in Nurnberg, Germany; returned to France 1936/7. Daughters Alice & Yvonne, b ca 1920), his mother was a Bernet Bernet, Albert, b. 1896/7, soldier in German Army (>from Nurnberg), killed near Lille, 1915
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no messages yesterday
#hungary
Dennis Baer <dbaer@...>
Hello
I have not seen any HSIG messages for the last day. Did I lose my subscription? If I did please reinstate it. Thank you. Dennis Baer
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on Bibliographies in general
#hungary
Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
It's really exciting to see the sharing of information as folks post book
titles that can be of help to researchers in specific areas. In addition to posting in your own SIG digests, it would be most helpful to all JewishGenners if you also added the names of books and a brief descriptor about their contents to the JewishGen Interactive Publications Database. from our homepage http://www.jewishgen.org, scroll down to SHARE/CONTRIBUTE- Participatory Projects and Activities and click on Publications. Thanks for your cooperation Carol Skydell JewishGen Support Team
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Jewish communities in Hungary no.5.
#hungary
Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
Hello everybody! :-)
Works on individual Jewish communities are often full of genealogical data. I have been compiling a bibliography of works on this topic. This bibliography is far >from completed, yet it might be of help to researchers of families >from those communities. In the third installment, I am sending works that cover individual communities >from countries which used to be part of historical Hungary >from E to Gy. E Eger, Erlau Arthur Ehrenfeld Egri zsidsk. Jerusalem, 1975 Eperjes, Presov M. Atlas Geschichte der J|dische Gemeinede von Presov. In:Zeitschrift f|r die Geschichte der Juden.. IV. 1967. Esztergom Ortutay Andras Az esztergomi-szenttamasi zsidssag tvrtinete a bazilika ipmtise idejin. In: Egyhazak a valtozs vilagban. Esztergom, 1991 Ortutay Andras Az esztergomi is Esztergom varmegyei zsidssag tvrtinete a kezdetektul...Limes 1991.1. 1991 Etyek Erdus Ferenc Kereskedu csaladok Etyeken a XIX. szazad masodik feliben. In: Zsidsk Fejir megyiben... Szikesfehirvar, 1989 F Fehirgyarmat -Gyarmat J.Blasz Ayavateynu lesheavar Fehergyarmat Bnei Brak, 1965 Fvldes Karacs Zsigmond Keresztinyek is zsidsk Fvldesen. In: MIOK Ivkvnyv. 1985-1991. Budapest, 1991 GY Gyur, Raab A gyuri martmrok emlikezetire kiadot f|zet Haifa, i.n. Doman Istvan A gyuri izraelita hitkvzsig tvrtinete. Budapest, 1979 Benjamin Frishman Emlikalbum a gyuri zsidskrsl. 1989 Chana Spiegel Lezecher kedoshei Gyur Keminy Jszsef Vazlatok a gyuri zsidssag tvrtinetibul. Gyur1930. Gyulafehirvar-Alba Julia Matthias (Matyas) Eisler Das Gemeindebuch von Alba Julia. In: Sinai, I Bucuresti, 1928 Matthias (Matyas) Eisler Aus dem Gemeindleben der Juden in Alba Julia im XVIII Jahrhundert. In: Sinai, II Bucuresti, 1929 Matthias (Matyas) Eisler Aus dem Privatleben der Juden von Siebenb|rgen im XVIII Jahrhundert. In: Sinai, III Bucuresti, 1931 -- Ujlaki.Gyorgy@drotposta.hu Researching: Wurm, Hollander, Konigstein, Fein, Pollak, Reich, Barany, Cucak, Drach, Purjesz, Porges/z, Porjes/z, Bischitz, Goldschmied, Iritz
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Hello??? Anyone there??
#hungary
Margarita <uzidog@...>
I'm not getting any messages since Friday, July 31.
Is there a problem or is it me? Please answer to my e-mail because I think I won't even see this message. Thank you Margarita Lacks Belgrano uzidog@post1.com
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[Fwd: jewish genealogical research]
#hungary
Family Tree <familyt@...>
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--------------B040F469ABA9E4407803B70D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit from THE HUNROOT'S ARCHIVES-- George Eotvos ____________________________________________________________________ Hungarian Roots List - URL:http://www.familytree.hu If you like to subscribe to the list send an e-mail to majordomo@euroweb.hu. In the first line write subscribe HUNROOTS. Thank you ! ============================================================== --------------B040F469ABA9E4407803B70D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <owner-hunroots@mail.euroweb.hu> Received: (>from listserv@localhost) by mail.euroweb.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA27308 for hunroots-outgoing; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:47:58 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.euroweb.hu: listserv set sender to owner-hunroots@mail.euroweb.hu using -f Received: >from hungary.net (line03.ts1.euroweb.hu [193.226.223.3]) by mail.euroweb.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27302 for <hunroots@euroweb.hu>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:47:54 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <35137EB9.21A0B0A9@hungary.net> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 09:47:54 +0100 From: George Eotvos <familyt@hungary.net> Organization: Family Tree Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HUNGARIAN ROOTS <hunroots@euroweb.hu> Subject: jewish genealogical research Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-hunroots@mail.euroweb.hu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hunroots@euroweb.hu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: >from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail.euroweb.hu id UAA03408 This is the second lecture of FAMILY TREE given at the Mannheim Conference Ladies and Gentlemen, Our bureau has been dealing - among others - with the history of the Jewish families who lived in the territory of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy and within this, primarily in the territory of the former historical Hungary. This paper - naturally without aiming to be complete - is concerned with the main problems of the research of the Jewish families who lived in the countries which came into existence in the territory of present-day and "historical" Hungary. The presence of the Jews in the Carpathian basin can be traced back till the Roman Era, and according to many - even though the continuity cannot be proven - they were again in the region at the time when the Hungarians settled down 1100 years ago. In this case their co-habitation with the Hungarians is more than 1000 years old. However, our present paper does not intend to deal with this 1100 year co-habitation, but with a much shorter period, the last 300 years. The presentation is concerned with those documents which originated during the co-habitation and the existence or non-existence of which determines the possibility of a Jewish family history work. That is the reason why we concentrate only on the last 300 years, as the main part of the documents originated >from that period. The last 20 years of the 17th century were decisive not only for the Hungarians but for those Jews as well, who lived in the Carpathian basin. In 1686 the unified Christian forces recaptured Buda castle >from the Turks, and with this event Hungary=92s liberation >from the 150 year long Turkish rule had started. The Christian forces which liberated Buda indiscriminately killed or captured all of the residents and defenders of the Castle, among them many Jews. The news of this event spread quickly, terrifying the Jewish population of the occupied territories. Though the Turks treated the Jews mercilessly as well, especially if they were late with the taxes, they did not cause the Jews any harm because of their religion. Due to the worthening news many of the Jews decided to leave Hungary with the withdrawing Turkish army and tried to start a new life in the Balkan peninsula. Because of this the Jewish population of Hungary decreased heavily by the early 18th century. Major Jewish communities remained only on the one hand, in the north-west territory of Hungary, which was never occupied by the Turks and where their existence was guaranteed by the largest landowners, and on the other hand at the other end of the country, in the Temes county. After the expulsion of the Turks, Hungary was in ruins. Its economy was destroyed, its population was just a little bit larger than at the beginning of the 16th century. There was neither a sufficient work force, nor funds for the reconstruction. Then the new lords of the country, the Habsburgs, sent their recruitment agents across Europe who offered different favours in order to draw settlers into the country. And they were successful. Settlers came >from almost everywhere in Western Europe, >from Switzerland, Belgium, France and even >from the territory of present day Italy. However, there were uninvited guests as well. The situation of the Jews in Poland had been continuously declining since the Hmelnyickij - Cossack rebellion of 1648. Pogrom was followed by pogrom, demanding thousands of lives. In the Austrian provinces and in Czech- Moravian country, though not threatened by pogroms, Jews lived in the shadow of expulsion and were fettered by various restricting orders. One of the most flagrant examples is the orders of Charles III. >from 1723, which prohibits all others outside the family's first born son to marry and settle down in the territory of Moravia. Considering all of these facts, it is no wonder that the Jewish immigration >from Poland and the Czech-Moravian provinces continuously increased during the following decades. The north-west part of the country was the favoured territory of the Austrian, the Czech-Moravian and the Bavarian Jews, while the north-east part of those who arrived from Galicia and Bukovina. The main direction of their migration isnorth-south and happened mainly along the big rivers (Danube, Tisza). The Jewish settlers, similar to their Christian fellows, brought with themselves their traditions and customs. They did not have family names, did not keep registers, and the disputes that occurred among them were settled in front of their own Rabbinical court instead of the secular one. But as we know very well, development is against tradition. After Maria Theresa's death his son, Joseph II. became the King of Hungary in 1780. He had great and ambitious plans. He would have liked to adjust the empire to the European development. He wanted a modern state, with a developed, bureaucratic -in the good sense of the word- state system. However, for this he would have needed to know the peoples of his empire. He would have needed to know the numbers of the population of his empire, what they do, what conditions they live in, etc. And the Jews cannot be exceptions - the Jews, who did not even have surnames, and nobody knew their exact number, because the Jewish census of 1767 was not complete and they still did not keep registers. In such conditions you could not collect taxes normally, and could not recruit an army. An overall change was needed. >from tomorrow on, everyone who previously did not have one, should have a family name. In 1787 Joseph II obliged the Hungarian Jews to take on a German sounding family names and to use them all the time. He ordered them to keep registers, but resistance was strong. More than sixty years had to pass before the absolutist authority which came to be after the defeated Hungarian war of independence of 1848/49 could force the Hungarian Jews to begin registration. However we should mention that there were communities where registers had been kept since the 20s-30s of the 19th century, but this was not at all common. Unfortunately the registration of the Jews did not take long in Hungary. Since 1st October 1895 the state registration had been administered in Hungary, and the denomination registration was no longer mandatory. Beside the most populated communities (Budapest, Pozsony) there was no Jewish registration at all, or just occasionally and in a chaotic way. In some parts of the country the language of the registers was Hungarian almost all of the time, while in other parts it was German, and in some parts a mixed German-Hungarian language was used. Registrations in Hebrew were very rare. Thus the two basic conditions for the research of Jewish family history were born: the family name in 1787 and the registration in 1851. However both of them mean a strict time limit for the researcher. Without registration it is very difficult to bind the strings between 1787 and 1851. In this case another important source of research, the Jewish census, could be of great help for us. It can be a national or a regional one. Two censuses of the Hungarian Jews are worth mentioning, the census made in 1767 and in 1848. Both were national an both remained uncompleted. The first one provides us with mainly statistical and economical data on the people in the censuses, and since there is not yet a mandatory family name, it is almost impossible to identify each persons. We can ask with reason why there is no Jewish census >from 1787. Surprisingly one was made, however there is only one county (Tolna) from which the material survived. In this Tolna county material it islisted which persons had which names before 1787 and chose which family names after this. It is really a pity that the other country censuses did not survive. The Jewish census of 1848 provides us with more historical data. Whole families are listed according to settlements, with age, birthplace and occupation indications. But the great defect of the material is that there is a lot of material missing >from those counties which had many Jewish inhabitance . The main locality for both the registers and the censuses are the archives. As you may very well know, historical Hungary no longer existed after the Trianon Treaty which closed World War I. Many new states came to be within its territory, and due to this fact the documents concerning the Jews who lived in historical Hungary can be found at present in the archives of different countries. - In Hungary the greater part of the documents can be found on microfilm in the National Archives. They can be researched without limitation, copies can be made openly. The smaller part of the material can be found either in the regional (county archives, or in the specified archives: Jewish Archives, Statistical Archives). A very small part of them are in the still operating Jewish communities, where official certificate copies can be obtained, if necessary. For the exact location of the Jewish material the excellent two volume Hungarian Jewish Archival Repertoire is a great help for the researcher. - The Jewish registers in Slovakia can be found in the regional archives, they are open to research, but in most places it is not possible to make photocopies. There is a usage fee for each volume of the registers. - Fortunately, we do not have to travel to Austria in order to research the Hungarian Jewish registers that can be found there, because their microfilm copies can be researched in the Hungarian National Archives. - In the Ukraine the location of the Jewish certificates concerning the Sub-Carpathian territory has not yet been clarified. There is no list of the registers, still emerging, their exact location spreads from father to son. - The situation is a little bit better in Romania, however as a foreign citizen you have to obtain all sorts of permissions, and making photocopies is very circumstantial. Unfortunately, there are no good list at all. We were talking about temporal and spatial limits which make research more difficult. However, there is an objective impediment existing as well, which in certain cases makes the successful completion of research impossible. And that is the complete absence of the registers. The frequent border changes and the huge devastation of World War II. destroyed the complete document material of several Communities, and many times even the register copies which were kept in the Archives were destroyed as well. The situation in those cases is nearly hopeless since there is nothing to work with, the primary sources are missing. In such cases the other documents, at other times regarded as secondary and tercially sources, are the main work source for us. Which are these? - The national census documents. Since 1780 there were yearly censuses in the territory of Hungary, and its documentation is kept in the regional archives. -The local and national electoral name lists. They contain more or less data depending on the years they are from. They are not really useful for finding out the family connections, but they contain much precious information concerning specific people. -Obituaries. This does not require much commentary, those who have already seen an obituary >from the previous century may know very well, what a great help it is for the researcher. In Hungary there are many places where such collections can be found, but the greatest one is the more than 800,000 piece collection of the National Sz=E9ch=E9nyi Library = in Budapest. -Cemetery registers. Unfortunately, only the biggest Jewish cemeteries have such a database >from earlier times. The quality of the information found in them varies. Sometimes only the exact grave location of the deceased is given, but in some cases the exact birth and death data can be found as well. - The demographical mobility statistics of the regional periodicals. In Hungary since the 60s-70s of the past century more and more settlements weekly or biweekly publish the list of those who were born, contracted a marriage and died in the settlement. This lists in some cases contains only names, but sometimes we can find the age, the religion and the occupation indications as well. Their significance intensifies when the certificates of a given settlement were destroyed. - Community monographs and memory books. After the Holocaust everywhere in the world, where Hungarian Jewish refugees lived some kind of book series was publishing about the Jewish settlements of their region. These monographs and memorial volumes nearly all of the cases contain a deportation list and in some cases the new residence of the survivors. - Civil registers. These can be researched keeping in mind certain statutory rights and time limitations. Considering all of these things, a history of a Jewish family who lived in the territory of historical Hungary can be researched by our bureau within two-four months according the demand of the client. George Eotvos Partner & Research Director FAMILY TREE Ltd. Genealogical Research Bureau - HUNGARY Member of the National Genealogical Society (USA) Phone: (36 1) 331 3569 / Fax: (36 1) 302 7388 mailto:familyt@hungary.net http://www.familytree.hu COME AND VISIT US AT THE 1998 NGS CONFERENCE IN DENVER, CO, 6-9 MAY. 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Jewish communities in Hungary no.6.
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Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
In the sixth installment, I am sending works that cover individual commun=
ities from=20 countries which used to be part of historical Hungary >from H to K. H Hajd=FAb=F6sz=F6rm=E9ny Kardos P=E1l Adal=E9kok a hajd=FAb=F6sz=F6rm=E9nyi zsid=F3s=E1g t=F6rt=E9= net=E9hez.=09 Hajd=FAb=F6sz=F6rm=E9ny, 1949 Hajd=FAn=E1n=E1s Mose Elijahu Gonda A debreceni zsid=F3k sz=E1z =E9ve. Tel Aviv, 1970 Hajd=FAs=E1mson Mose Elijahu Gonda A debreceni zsid=F3k sz=E1z =E9ve. Tel Aviv, 1970 Halmi Yehuda Schwartz Zikhron netsah lekehilot hakedoshot Halmin-Turcz vehasevi= va=20 asher nehrevu beshoa. Tel Aviv, 1968 H=E9th=E1rs-Lipjany Grosswirth Jen=F5 A h=E9th=E1rs-lipjanyi zsid=F3s=E1g t=F6rt=E9nete. Jeru= zs=E1lem, 1980 H=F3dmez=F5v=E1s=E1rhely Dr. Silberstein Adolf H=F3dmez=F5v=E1s=E1rhelyi zsid=F3k. H=F3dmez=F5v=E1= s=E1rhely,=20 1943 Mak=F3 Imre-Katona Lajos A m=E1sodik vil=E1ghabor=FA =E9s a fasizmus=20 h=F3dmez=F5v=E1s=E1rhelyi =E1ldozatai. H=F3dmez=F5v=E1s=E1rhely, 1991 Kov=E1cs Istv=E1n, et al, ed. A h=F3dmez=F5v=E1s=E1rhelyi zsid=F3s=E1g 17= 40-1993.=09 H=F3dmez=F5v=E1s=E1rhely, 1993 Homonna-Humenne David Friedmann Geschichte der Juden in Humenne.=09 Hunfalva-Hunsdorf-Hunkovce Guttmann J=F3zsef Hunfalva-Hunsdorf. A mester =E9s tan=EDtv=E1nya. 1981 =09 I Ikl=F3d Michael Bar-On Szamos=FAjv=E1r, Ikl=F3d =E9s k=F6rny=E9ke Tel Aviv, 1971 Illava-Ilava J.Nathan Kacer 300 Jahre Chewra-Kadischa Ilava 5389-5689. Ilava,1929 Ipolys=E1g-Sahy A. Asher, J.Gidron Ner tamid lezecher yehudut Ipolysag vehaseviva. 1994 =09 J J=E1nosh=E1za-Jankov=E1c Blasz Jen=F5 J=E1nosh=E1z=E1n f=FCty=FClt a zsid=F3.=09 =09 K Kaposv=E1r Hars=E1nyi L=E1szl=F3 A kaposv=E1ri zsid=F3k m=FAltj=E1nak kezdetei. In: = MIOK =C9vk=F6nyv=20 1977-78. Budapest, 1978 Karcag Laha Prinster A karcagi zsid=F3k t=F6rt=E9nete. Tel Aviv, 1977 Hersk=F3 M=F3zes Toldot kehilat Karcag vekehilot mehoz Nagykuns=E1g.=09 Jerusalem, 1977 Kassa-Kassau-Kosice G=F6r=F6g Art=FAr A kassai zsid=F3s=E1g gal=E9ri=E1ja. 1991 Yehuda Schlanger Divrei yemei kehilat Kosice. Bnei Brak, 1993 E. Enten Zur Geschichte der Juden in Kosice. In: Zeitschrift f=FCr die Ge= schichte=20 der Juden in Tschechoslovakei. II. 1931/32. 280.=09 Kaszony Joseph Eden (Einczig) The Jews of Kaszony, Subcarpatia. New York,=20 1988 Kecskem=E9t Hornyik J=E1nos A kecskem=E9ti zsid=F3k t=F6rt=E9nete. (B=E1cs-Kiskun Meg= yei Lev=E9lt=E1ri=20 F=FCzetek 2.) Gyula, 1988 Kesm=E1rk-Kezamarok Shmuel Dov Gottesmann Toldot yehudei Kezamarok vehaseviva.=09 Kir=E1lyhelmec-Kralovsky Chlmec Aaron Ehrman Kir=E1lyhelmec-Kralovsky Chlmec and the Bodrog District.=09 1997 Kisk=F5r=F6s Akiva Klein Zsid=F3 m=FAlt Kisk=F5r=F6s=F6n. 1994 Kismarton-Eisenstadt Shmuel Hakohen Weingarten Arim veimahot beyisrael vol.1: Munk=E1cs, Kisma= rton=09 Jerusalem, 1947 B. Wachstein Urkunden und akten zur Geschichte der Juden in Eisenstadt=20 und den Siebengemeinde. Wien-Leipzig, 1926 Josef Klampfer Das Eisenstadter Ghetto. Eisenstadt, 1965 Johannes Reiss Zichronam livracha - Zum Segen seit ihn Andenken -=20 Eisenstadt 1994 Kisv=E1rda-Kleinvardein Dr. J=F3lesz K=E1roly Eml=E9kk=F6nyv Kisv=E1rda =E9s k=F6rny=E9ke...Sefer= yizkor lekehilat=20 Kleinvardein vehaseviva. TelAviv, 1980 Kolozsv=E1r-Cluj-Cluj-Napoca-Klausenburg Sh. Zimroni, Y.Schwartz Zikkaron netsah hakehila hakedosha=20 Kolozsv=E1r-Klausenburg asher nehreva beshoa Tel Aviv, 1968 Moses Carmilly-Weinberger A Kolozsv=E1ri zsid=F3s=E1g eml=E9kk=F6nyve New= York,=20 1970 Moses Carmilly-Weinberger A Kolozsv=E1ri zsid=F3s=E1g eml=E9kk=F6nyve New= York,=20 1988 Benamy S=E1ndor K=E9t varosr=F3l. 2. Eml=E9kez=E9s a r=E9gi Kolozsv=E1rra= . In: MIOK=20 =C9vk=F6nyv. 1983-84. Budapest, 1984 Kony=E1r Mose Elijahu Gonda A debreceni zsid=F3k sz=E1z =E9ve. Tel Aviv, 1970 K=F5r=F6smez=F5-Yassinah Pinchas Bressler Iyrotei Yassinah. 1988 K=F5szeg Hars=E1nyi L=E1szl=F3 K=F5szegi zsid=F3k. Budapest1974 Kir=E1lydar=F3c Mose Jehuda Lajos Herschkovits Eml=E9kez=E9s helyett. A kir=E1lydar=F3ci=20 hitk=F6zs=E9g, amely m=E1r nincs. Kiryat Bialik=E9.n. Kurima Baruch Shanan (Friedman) Yizkor yehudey Kurima vehaseviva. 1989 -- Ujlaki.Gyorgy@drotposta.hu Budapest, Hungary Researching: Wurm, Hollander, Konigstein, Fein, Pollak, Reich, Barany, C= ucak, Drach, Purjesz, Porges/z, Porjes/z, Bischitz, Goldschmied, Iritz
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Jewish communities in Hungary no.4.
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Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
What new can I write?
Works on individual Jewish communities are often full of genealogical data. I have been compiling a bibliography of works on this topic. This bibliography is far >from completed, yet it might be of help to researchers of families >from those communities. In the third installment, I am sending works that cover individual communities >from countries which used to be part of historical Hungary >from C to D. C, CS Csaktornya-Cakovec Moshe Etz-Hayyim (Tibor Gr|nwald) Megilat hashoa shel kehilat kodesh Cakovec. Tel Aviv, 1977 Csenger Shlomo Friedmann Sefer yizkor lekedoshei Csenger, Porcsalma vehaseviva. Tel Aviv, 1966 D Debrecen Szabs Istvan A zsidsk letelepedise Debrecenben 1840-1867. Kizirat Dr. Weisz Miksa A debreceni izraelita hitkvzsig templomainak is rabbijainak tvrtinete. (kizirat) 1943 Dr. Kardos Albert A debreceni zsids hitkvzseg. In: Magyar Zsids Szemle 1886 1886 Zoltai Lajos A zsidsk letelepedise Debrecenben. In: Magyar Zsids Szemle 1934. Sss Endre A zsidsk ztja a kalvinista Rsmaban. 1943 Sss Endre A zsidsk ztja a kalvinista Rsmaban. In: Magyar Zsids Szemle 1946 (Guttmann M. emlikkvnyv) 1946 Dr. Vighazi Istvan Adalikok a debreceni zsidsk tvrtinetihez. 1967 Mose Elijahu Gonda A debreceni zsidsk szaz ive. Tel Aviv, 1970 Derecske Arje Moskovits Derecske is vidike zsidssaga Tel Aviv, 1984 Dis Singer Zoltan Volt egyszer egy Dis...Bethlen, Magyarlapos, Retteg, Nagyilonda is kvrnyike. 2 vol. Tel Aviv ,i.n.,, (1970) Yitzchak Greshoni Tapuach - kovetz shemot upratim metoldot kehilat Des. 1994 Dolha Kedishei Sheva Kehilot (Dolha, Zadne, Kosnica...) 1993 Dunaszerdahely, Dunajska Streda Alfred (Abraham) Engel A dunaszerdahelyi hitkvzsig emlikvnyve. Tel Aviv, 1975 Engel Alfrid A dunaszerdahelyi hitkvzsig emlikvnyve. (Nevek nilk|l) Pozsony, 1995 -- Ujlaki.Gyorgy@drotposta.hu Researching: Wurm, Hollander, Konigstein, Fein, Pollak, Reich, Barany, Cucak, Drach, Purjesz, Porges/z, Porjes/z, Bischitz, Goldschmied, Iritz
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Hungary SIG #Hungary no messages yesterday
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Dennis Baer <dbaer@...>
Hello
I have not seen any HSIG messages for the last day. Did I lose my subscription? If I did please reinstate it. Thank you. Dennis Baer
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Hungary SIG #Hungary on Bibliographies in general
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Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
It's really exciting to see the sharing of information as folks post book
titles that can be of help to researchers in specific areas. In addition to posting in your own SIG digests, it would be most helpful to all JewishGenners if you also added the names of books and a brief descriptor about their contents to the JewishGen Interactive Publications Database. from our homepage http://www.jewishgen.org, scroll down to SHARE/CONTRIBUTE- Participatory Projects and Activities and click on Publications. Thanks for your cooperation Carol Skydell JewishGen Support Team
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Jewish communities in Hungary no.5.
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Ujlaki Gyorgy <ujlaki.gyorgy@...>
Hello everybody! :-)
Works on individual Jewish communities are often full of genealogical data. I have been compiling a bibliography of works on this topic. This bibliography is far >from completed, yet it might be of help to researchers of families >from those communities. In the third installment, I am sending works that cover individual communities >from countries which used to be part of historical Hungary >from E to Gy. E Eger, Erlau Arthur Ehrenfeld Egri zsidsk. Jerusalem, 1975 Eperjes, Presov M. Atlas Geschichte der J|dische Gemeinede von Presov. In:Zeitschrift f|r die Geschichte der Juden.. IV. 1967. Esztergom Ortutay Andras Az esztergomi-szenttamasi zsidssag tvrtinete a bazilika ipmtise idejin. In: Egyhazak a valtozs vilagban. Esztergom, 1991 Ortutay Andras Az esztergomi is Esztergom varmegyei zsidssag tvrtinete a kezdetektul...Limes 1991.1. 1991 Etyek Erdus Ferenc Kereskedu csaladok Etyeken a XIX. szazad masodik feliben. In: Zsidsk Fejir megyiben... Szikesfehirvar, 1989 F Fehirgyarmat -Gyarmat J.Blasz Ayavateynu lesheavar Fehergyarmat Bnei Brak, 1965 Fvldes Karacs Zsigmond Keresztinyek is zsidsk Fvldesen. In: MIOK Ivkvnyv. 1985-1991. Budapest, 1991 GY Gyur, Raab A gyuri martmrok emlikezetire kiadot f|zet Haifa, i.n. Doman Istvan A gyuri izraelita hitkvzsig tvrtinete. Budapest, 1979 Benjamin Frishman Emlikalbum a gyuri zsidskrsl. 1989 Chana Spiegel Lezecher kedoshei Gyur Keminy Jszsef Vazlatok a gyuri zsidssag tvrtinetibul. Gyur1930. Gyulafehirvar-Alba Julia Matthias (Matyas) Eisler Das Gemeindebuch von Alba Julia. In: Sinai, I Bucuresti, 1928 Matthias (Matyas) Eisler Aus dem Gemeindleben der Juden in Alba Julia im XVIII Jahrhundert. In: Sinai, II Bucuresti, 1929 Matthias (Matyas) Eisler Aus dem Privatleben der Juden von Siebenb|rgen im XVIII Jahrhundert. In: Sinai, III Bucuresti, 1931 -- Ujlaki.Gyorgy@drotposta.hu Researching: Wurm, Hollander, Konigstein, Fein, Pollak, Reich, Barany, Cucak, Drach, Purjesz, Porges/z, Porjes/z, Bischitz, Goldschmied, Iritz
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