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FRAENKEL, KRIVINE, WEIL, NOVOCHELSKI
#france
Hazel Dakers
I am seeking living descendants of the following whose families were living
in Paris late C19th and into C20th: Isaac FRAENKEL and his wife Elvire nee NOVOCHELSKI m.1896 Paris Maurice Alter Meier KRIVINE and his wife Sophie nee FRAENKEL and sons Pierre Leon Georges KRIVINE b. 1899 Paris and Andre Louis Robert KRIVINE b. 1901 Paris Marcus FRAENKEL and his wife Berthe nee WEIL m 1894 Paris (This Fraenkel family originated >from Kamenetz Podolsk). Many thanks. Hazel Dakers, London UK www.hazeldakers.co.uk
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(Lithuania-US-NY) YIVO Institute and Lithuanian Government Agree About Digitizing Collection
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
The YIVO Institute for Jewish research- the world's foremost collection of
Yiddish books and cultural artifacts, prewar collection was split up at the end of WW2-during the War some of the collection was shipped to Frankfurt Germany for an anti-Semitic institute for the study of the "Jewish question". That part of the collection recovered by the US Army was sent to YIVO's home in New York City. However, much of the collection remained in Vilnius-formerly called Vilna- the Jerusalem of Europe. The Lithuanian government did not want to part with the collection which it considers part of its national heritage. However, the Lithuanian government has agreed to having is hundreds of thousands of document pages and books digitally copied and integrated into a web portal so that the cache will be available to all worldwide. YIVO has announced a $5.25 million project to reunite the treasures, digitally. YIVO in New York with an archive of 24 million items will also be digitized. The project will take up to seven years. The Lithuanian Central State archives will pay about $250,000 for the digitization of the materials still in Lithuania. YIVO in New York City will pay an additional two employees for the project. To read more about the project and the history of the collection during WW2 go to http://yivo.org/about/index.php?tid=154&aid=1330 Or read the NY Times article >from October 2 entitled: Split Up by Holocaust, Top Collection of Yiddish Works Will Reunite Digitally at: http://tinyurl.com/oec3esr Original url: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/nyregion/split-up-by-holocaust-top-collect ion-of-yiddish-works-will-reunite-digitally.html?mabReward=RI%3A8&action=cli ck&pgtype=Homepage®ion=CColumn&module=Recommendation&src=rechp&WT.nav=Rec Engine Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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French SIG #France FRAENKEL, KRIVINE, WEIL, NOVOCHELSKI
#france
Hazel Dakers
I am seeking living descendants of the following whose families were living
in Paris late C19th and into C20th: Isaac FRAENKEL and his wife Elvire nee NOVOCHELSKI m.1896 Paris Maurice Alter Meier KRIVINE and his wife Sophie nee FRAENKEL and sons Pierre Leon Georges KRIVINE b. 1899 Paris and Andre Louis Robert KRIVINE b. 1901 Paris Marcus FRAENKEL and his wife Berthe nee WEIL m 1894 Paris (This Fraenkel family originated >from Kamenetz Podolsk). Many thanks. Hazel Dakers, London UK www.hazeldakers.co.uk
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (Lithuania-US-NY) YIVO Institute and Lithuanian Government Agree About Digitizing Collection
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
The YIVO Institute for Jewish research- the world's foremost collection of
Yiddish books and cultural artifacts, prewar collection was split up at the end of WW2-during the War some of the collection was shipped to Frankfurt Germany for an anti-Semitic institute for the study of the "Jewish question". That part of the collection recovered by the US Army was sent to YIVO's home in New York City. However, much of the collection remained in Vilnius-formerly called Vilna- the Jerusalem of Europe. The Lithuanian government did not want to part with the collection which it considers part of its national heritage. However, the Lithuanian government has agreed to having is hundreds of thousands of document pages and books digitally copied and integrated into a web portal so that the cache will be available to all worldwide. YIVO has announced a $5.25 million project to reunite the treasures, digitally. YIVO in New York with an archive of 24 million items will also be digitized. The project will take up to seven years. The Lithuanian Central State archives will pay about $250,000 for the digitization of the materials still in Lithuania. YIVO in New York City will pay an additional two employees for the project. To read more about the project and the history of the collection during WW2 go to http://yivo.org/about/index.php?tid=154&aid=1330 Or read the NY Times article >from October 2 entitled: Split Up by Holocaust, Top Collection of Yiddish Works Will Reunite Digitally at: http://tinyurl.com/oec3esr Original url: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/nyregion/split-up-by-holocaust-top-collect ion-of-yiddish-works-will-reunite-digitally.html?mabReward=RI%3A8&action=cli ck&pgtype=Homepage®ion=CColumn&module=Recommendation&src=rechp&WT.nav=Rec Engine Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Szalaszend, Hungary birth,marriage Records
#general
PATRICIA SHAW Owner
My GGF, William Friedmann, was born 20 Nov 1859 in Szalaszend, Hungary.
Where would look for his birth record? I have been to Szalaszend and there are no records being kept there. Would appreciate any suggestions. Thank you You may answer me either on the list or to email - pshaw36@centurylink.net Patricia Shaw, Oregon Searching: William Friedmann, Szalaszend, Miskolc; Sarah Friedmann (Cziner), Buzinka (now Slovakia) Alexander Pollacsek, Debrecen, Hungary, Ida Pollacsek (Friedmann), Miskolc
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Szalaszend, Hungary birth,marriage Records
#general
PATRICIA SHAW Owner
My GGF, William Friedmann, was born 20 Nov 1859 in Szalaszend, Hungary.
Where would look for his birth record? I have been to Szalaszend and there are no records being kept there. Would appreciate any suggestions. Thank you You may answer me either on the list or to email - pshaw36@centurylink.net Patricia Shaw, Oregon Searching: William Friedmann, Szalaszend, Miskolc; Sarah Friedmann (Cziner), Buzinka (now Slovakia) Alexander Pollacsek, Debrecen, Hungary, Ida Pollacsek (Friedmann), Miskolc
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Given name Sidney
#bessarabia
Deborah Barr
Dear Group,
I've been told there were many Sidneys in my family in Rascov, Moldova going back for generations, including my great-grandfather, but I don't know what the name would have been in Europe. The only Sidney to come over to the US was listed as Shepsel on the passenger list, and I presume that was a knickname. There is nothing for Romania in the Given Names Database. For Ukraine I get Simcha as a possibility and also Yehoshue (Ishie/Shaie/Shaye/Yehoyshue/Yeshie/Yeshiye). If you know the original name of anyone >from this area who was called Sidney in English I am curious to learn it. I would appreciate any thoughts about this. Regards, Deborah Barr LUMER, GUREFSKY, GRONMAN (Rascov)
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Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Given name Sidney
#bessarabia
Deborah Barr
Dear Group,
I've been told there were many Sidneys in my family in Rascov, Moldova going back for generations, including my great-grandfather, but I don't know what the name would have been in Europe. The only Sidney to come over to the US was listed as Shepsel on the passenger list, and I presume that was a knickname. There is nothing for Romania in the Given Names Database. For Ukraine I get Simcha as a possibility and also Yehoshue (Ishie/Shaie/Shaye/Yehoyshue/Yeshie/Yeshiye). If you know the original name of anyone >from this area who was called Sidney in English I am curious to learn it. I would appreciate any thoughts about this. Regards, Deborah Barr LUMER, GUREFSKY, GRONMAN (Rascov)
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JGS Toronto Meeting October 22, 2014
#general
Valerie Fox
JGS of Toronto presents:
Date: October 22, 2014 Time: 8:00 p.m. Doors open at 7:30 p.m. Place: Temple Sinai 210 Wilson Avenue Toronto, Ontario Refreshments will be served Non- Members : $5.00 Presenter: Fiona Gold Kroll, author of "A Stone for Benjamin: My Genealogical Search for my Great Uncle" Fiona Gold Kroll was born in England and has resided in Toronto since 1966. This professional researcher turned genealogy sleuth talks about her emotional journey writing this book, a book about her research into the life of her great-uncle, Benjamin Albaum, who disappeared >from Paris during WWII and perished in Auschwitz. For further information go to: www.jgstoronto.ca info@jgstoronto.ca telephone 647-247-6414 Valerie Miller Fox Mentoring Coordinator
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Toronto Meeting October 22, 2014
#general
Valerie Fox
JGS of Toronto presents:
Date: October 22, 2014 Time: 8:00 p.m. Doors open at 7:30 p.m. Place: Temple Sinai 210 Wilson Avenue Toronto, Ontario Refreshments will be served Non- Members : $5.00 Presenter: Fiona Gold Kroll, author of "A Stone for Benjamin: My Genealogical Search for my Great Uncle" Fiona Gold Kroll was born in England and has resided in Toronto since 1966. This professional researcher turned genealogy sleuth talks about her emotional journey writing this book, a book about her research into the life of her great-uncle, Benjamin Albaum, who disappeared >from Paris during WWII and perished in Auschwitz. For further information go to: www.jgstoronto.ca info@jgstoronto.ca telephone 647-247-6414 Valerie Miller Fox Mentoring Coordinator
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JGSGW October 2014 Meeting Announcement
#general
Robin Meltzer
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington will host its October
2014 meeting on Sunday, October 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm at The Lillian & Albert Small Jewish Museum, 701 Third Street, NW, Washington, DC, 20001. Link to map on the JGSGW website: http://www.jgsgw.org/directions.html#LASJM. Directions may be found on the Jewish Historical Society of Greater Washington’s website: http://www.jhsgw.org/about/contact.php#directions. Program: Genealogy Resources in the Library of Congress Discover world class genealogy resources in your own backyard! This program features two presentations >from representatives of the Library of Congress, one >from the Map Division and one >from the Genealogy & Local History section. Each speaker will highlight many resources of interest to genealogists and how the Library's unique collections can further family history research. Presentation One: Genealogic and Historical Research Using Sanborn Maps Speaker: Dr. Habte Teclemariam, Library of Congress Sanborn Maps provide a unique close-up view of the American communities our ancestors knew. Published >from 1867 to 2007 to assess fire and flood insurance risks, the maps show not only property numbers and building outlines, but wells, pipelines, dumps and railroads. These details can provide valuable historical information and confirm data provided in vital records and newspaper accounts. The Map Division of the Library of Congress has a complete collection of Sanborn Maps, covering approximately 12,000 towns and cities throughout the United States. Dr. Habte Teclemariam is Senior Reference Librarian of the Geography and Map Division of The Library of Congress. He is a graduate of the University of Asmara, Hope College and has pursued advanced studies at the University of Michigan. Dr. Teclemariam specializes in European and Middle Eastern geography. He is fluent in a number of languages, including Hebrew. Presentation Two: Finding Jewish Ancestors and their Stories Susan Garfinkel and Anne Toohey, Library of Congress Many ancestors, immigrants, women, minorities, and others, do not have compiled biographies. While their presence is duly noted in public records such as the census, the richness of their lives can seem lost to history. Yet, when the dry facts of records are placed in context with a broad variety of social and cultural artifacts, a fuller story soon emerges. Available sources of evidence run the gamut >from newspapers, travelogues, letters, diaries, printed texts and ephemera; to photographs, moving images, sound recordings, and maps; to three-dimensional objects. Anne Toohey of the Local History and Genealogy Section and Susan Garfinkel of the Digital Reference Section will discuss resources and strategies for reconstructing the life stories of our ancestors using materials available on site at the Library of Congress and digitized on its website, with special attention to the historical context that enriches Jewish genealogical research. Susan Garfinkel is a research specialist at the Library of Congress; her subject areas include architecture, early American cultural history and digital humanities. With a PhD in American Civilization (Penn) as well as MA degrees in folklore (Penn) and in American material culture (Winterthur), she taught at several universities in the Washington, DC area before coming to LC in 2002. Her published work spans topics >from breast cancer in the early 19th century, to Quakers and plainness, to elevators in film and fiction, to vernacular architecture and performance theory. She has recently begun to research her own family's history. Anne Toohey has served as a reference librarian in the Local History and Genealogy Section at the Library of Congress since 1991. Toohey specializes in genealogy and local history for Virginia, Canada and France and is the Canadian Recommending Officer for books at the Library of Congress. In addition, she specializes in the genealogy of groups such as Loyalists, Huguenots and Quakers, and is interested in migration history. JGSGW Guest Attendance Policy: As of January 1, 2014, a non-member may attend the monthly JGSGW meeting as a Guest for a $5.00 fee payable at the sign-in table. The $5.00 Guest fee may be applied toward payment of annual JGSGW membership dues if dues are paid at the same meeting at which the guest fee was paid. JGSGW members requiring personal assistance at a meeting due to a health condition or disability may bring someone to assist them free of charge. Robin Meltzer VP Communications, JGSGW www.jgsgw.org https://www.facebook.com/groups/jgsgw
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSGW October 2014 Meeting Announcement
#general
Robin Meltzer
The Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington will host its October
2014 meeting on Sunday, October 19, 2014 at 1:00 pm at The Lillian & Albert Small Jewish Museum, 701 Third Street, NW, Washington, DC, 20001. Link to map on the JGSGW website: http://www.jgsgw.org/directions.html#LASJM. Directions may be found on the Jewish Historical Society of Greater Washington’s website: http://www.jhsgw.org/about/contact.php#directions. Program: Genealogy Resources in the Library of Congress Discover world class genealogy resources in your own backyard! This program features two presentations >from representatives of the Library of Congress, one >from the Map Division and one >from the Genealogy & Local History section. Each speaker will highlight many resources of interest to genealogists and how the Library's unique collections can further family history research. Presentation One: Genealogic and Historical Research Using Sanborn Maps Speaker: Dr. Habte Teclemariam, Library of Congress Sanborn Maps provide a unique close-up view of the American communities our ancestors knew. Published >from 1867 to 2007 to assess fire and flood insurance risks, the maps show not only property numbers and building outlines, but wells, pipelines, dumps and railroads. These details can provide valuable historical information and confirm data provided in vital records and newspaper accounts. The Map Division of the Library of Congress has a complete collection of Sanborn Maps, covering approximately 12,000 towns and cities throughout the United States. Dr. Habte Teclemariam is Senior Reference Librarian of the Geography and Map Division of The Library of Congress. He is a graduate of the University of Asmara, Hope College and has pursued advanced studies at the University of Michigan. Dr. Teclemariam specializes in European and Middle Eastern geography. He is fluent in a number of languages, including Hebrew. Presentation Two: Finding Jewish Ancestors and their Stories Susan Garfinkel and Anne Toohey, Library of Congress Many ancestors, immigrants, women, minorities, and others, do not have compiled biographies. While their presence is duly noted in public records such as the census, the richness of their lives can seem lost to history. Yet, when the dry facts of records are placed in context with a broad variety of social and cultural artifacts, a fuller story soon emerges. Available sources of evidence run the gamut >from newspapers, travelogues, letters, diaries, printed texts and ephemera; to photographs, moving images, sound recordings, and maps; to three-dimensional objects. Anne Toohey of the Local History and Genealogy Section and Susan Garfinkel of the Digital Reference Section will discuss resources and strategies for reconstructing the life stories of our ancestors using materials available on site at the Library of Congress and digitized on its website, with special attention to the historical context that enriches Jewish genealogical research. Susan Garfinkel is a research specialist at the Library of Congress; her subject areas include architecture, early American cultural history and digital humanities. With a PhD in American Civilization (Penn) as well as MA degrees in folklore (Penn) and in American material culture (Winterthur), she taught at several universities in the Washington, DC area before coming to LC in 2002. Her published work spans topics >from breast cancer in the early 19th century, to Quakers and plainness, to elevators in film and fiction, to vernacular architecture and performance theory. She has recently begun to research her own family's history. Anne Toohey has served as a reference librarian in the Local History and Genealogy Section at the Library of Congress since 1991. Toohey specializes in genealogy and local history for Virginia, Canada and France and is the Canadian Recommending Officer for books at the Library of Congress. In addition, she specializes in the genealogy of groups such as Loyalists, Huguenots and Quakers, and is interested in migration history. JGSGW Guest Attendance Policy: As of January 1, 2014, a non-member may attend the monthly JGSGW meeting as a Guest for a $5.00 fee payable at the sign-in table. The $5.00 Guest fee may be applied toward payment of annual JGSGW membership dues if dues are paid at the same meeting at which the guest fee was paid. JGSGW members requiring personal assistance at a meeting due to a health condition or disability may bring someone to assist them free of charge. Robin Meltzer VP Communications, JGSGW www.jgsgw.org https://www.facebook.com/groups/jgsgw
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Are your ancestors from Wurzburg?
#germany
Judith Elam
I have just returned >from a life-changing trip to Germany. One that I
thought I would never make but am so grateful I did! Although based mainly in Berlin, I also spent two days in Wurzburg, visiting the wonderful Shalom Europa museum and Johanna Stahl Zentrum at Valentin-Beckerstrasse 11, and the Jewish cemetery, where my paternal grandparents, Werner and Grete NATHAN, are buried. The museum sits on the site of the former home for survivors - mainly of Theresienstadt. My grandparents, who were >from Berlin and survived Theresienstadt, were at Deggendorf displacement camp for the next two years, and then placed in this home, where they died in the 50's. Very few of these survivors were actually >from Wurzburg originally. All that remains of the home today is a small section of a surrounding wall. While the history of the Jews of Wurzburg is well documented in the museum, I was disappointed to see that there is nothing whatsoever to indicate that the home had even existed on this spot, much less documents, photos or anything on its residents, such as my grandparents. Indeed I was told by the delightful director, Dr. Rotraud Ries, that I was the first descendant of former residents to visit the museum! So the museum has nothing to document this post-war era, other than some documents and photos that I have now provided pertaining to my grandparents. I have discussed this sad situation with Dr. Ries, and she agrees that it would be important to have an exhibition on this post-war period, but she needs material! And they do have space for it. Is there anyone out there whose parents or grandparents also lived at this home for survivors at Valentin-Beckerstrasse 11, Wurzburg, after 1945? If so, would you be willing to donate documents, photos and personal items to the museum for this exhibition? They would also welcome items >from the pre-war period to expand their existing exhibitions. Judith Elam, Kihei, Hawaii elamj@hawaii.rr.com
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German SIG #Germany Are your ancestors from Wurzburg?
#germany
Judith Elam
I have just returned >from a life-changing trip to Germany. One that I
thought I would never make but am so grateful I did! Although based mainly in Berlin, I also spent two days in Wurzburg, visiting the wonderful Shalom Europa museum and Johanna Stahl Zentrum at Valentin-Beckerstrasse 11, and the Jewish cemetery, where my paternal grandparents, Werner and Grete NATHAN, are buried. The museum sits on the site of the former home for survivors - mainly of Theresienstadt. My grandparents, who were >from Berlin and survived Theresienstadt, were at Deggendorf displacement camp for the next two years, and then placed in this home, where they died in the 50's. Very few of these survivors were actually >from Wurzburg originally. All that remains of the home today is a small section of a surrounding wall. While the history of the Jews of Wurzburg is well documented in the museum, I was disappointed to see that there is nothing whatsoever to indicate that the home had even existed on this spot, much less documents, photos or anything on its residents, such as my grandparents. Indeed I was told by the delightful director, Dr. Rotraud Ries, that I was the first descendant of former residents to visit the museum! So the museum has nothing to document this post-war era, other than some documents and photos that I have now provided pertaining to my grandparents. I have discussed this sad situation with Dr. Ries, and she agrees that it would be important to have an exhibition on this post-war period, but she needs material! And they do have space for it. Is there anyone out there whose parents or grandparents also lived at this home for survivors at Valentin-Beckerstrasse 11, Wurzburg, after 1945? If so, would you be willing to donate documents, photos and personal items to the museum for this exhibition? They would also welcome items >from the pre-war period to expand their existing exhibitions. Judith Elam, Kihei, Hawaii elamj@hawaii.rr.com
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Geographical question
#germany
John Anderson
I have someone I am researching who claimed on censuses 1915, 1920 and 1925
that he was born in 1885 in Russia. Yet on the 1930 census, he claims he was born in Czechoslovakia. Why would he change that? Was any part of 1930 Czechoslovakia part of Russia? John Anderson, Orlando, Florida counselor12721@gmail.com
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German SIG #Germany Geographical question
#germany
John Anderson
I have someone I am researching who claimed on censuses 1915, 1920 and 1925
that he was born in 1885 in Russia. Yet on the 1930 census, he claims he was born in Czechoslovakia. Why would he change that? Was any part of 1930 Czechoslovakia part of Russia? John Anderson, Orlando, Florida counselor12721@gmail.com
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Facebook site for Iasi...
#romania
Rosanne Leeson
Dear All,
A well-meant couple of message went out to the SIG recently regarding a new Facebook site for discussion of Iasi families. Unfortunately, this resulted in messages coming to the List, some pro and others very anti such a site, including a couple of very ugly flaming ones. JewishGen policies, Rules and Guidelines do not permit the posting of such messages. It is matter of using the Web with good manners to all. Therefore this thread is closed! There will be no more discussion of this subject permitted on our site. If there are those of you who wish to continue it please do so privately. Thank you, Rosanne Leeson Co-Coordinator Rom-SIG
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Romania SIG #Romania Facebook site for Iasi...
#romania
Rosanne Leeson
Dear All,
A well-meant couple of message went out to the SIG recently regarding a new Facebook site for discussion of Iasi families. Unfortunately, this resulted in messages coming to the List, some pro and others very anti such a site, including a couple of very ugly flaming ones. JewishGen policies, Rules and Guidelines do not permit the posting of such messages. It is matter of using the Web with good manners to all. Therefore this thread is closed! There will be no more discussion of this subject permitted on our site. If there are those of you who wish to continue it please do so privately. Thank you, Rosanne Leeson Co-Coordinator Rom-SIG
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Dressmaking
#austria-czech
leah9knud@...
Re Helen Epstine's posting about the Strnad exhibition at Milwaukee Jewish Museum
and the dressmaker Hedvig Strnad of Prague, I recently came upon the name STRNAD name in my research relating to my late step-Father's WEISS-ZIPPER etc. family of Vienna. However, I have not yet followed this up. My step-Father's Mother was Malvine WEISS ZIPPER, B. Vienna 1888 D. Melbourne 1970 daughter of : Samuel b. Benjamin WEISS, B. Kralovitz, Ledec, Bohemia 1836 d. Vienna 1896 and his second wife, Katharina b. Marcus STIASSNY B.1850 Radenin, Bohemia d. Vienna 1917 Malvine was the second youngest child of Samuel (of about 10 children - only two children of Katharina). Amongst a considerable number of photographs and documents >from my late step-Father's possessions, I found what look like three apprenticeship books in the name of Malvine WEISS. Malvine was a dressmaker who worked for high-class Viennese women >from her home in Wien 15, before the family fled to Shanghai. My step-Father fled in October 1938 after his Mother's dressmaking assistant managed to dissuade the police when they knocked on the door of their flat, that no Jews were living there. Some of his ZIPPER cousins were arrested and ended up in Dachau and then Buchenwald, before managing to get out and flee to Philippines. Dad's parents, paternal grandfather, two paternal aunts, and some of his maternal uncles and their families managed to get to Shanghai in 1939. Two of his WEISS uncles died in Shanghai. But most of his maternal WEISS, WOLLNER, LOFF, KOWENKRON, and related families perished. I wonder if anyone else has similar apprenticeship records >from Vienna, which, one day soon, I will eventually have to find a safe home for, probably in either the Jewish Museum or the Holocaust Centre in Melbourne. Lorraine Bertelsen Boho, Downunder Subject: strnad exhibit at Milwaukee jewish museum From:helen.epstein@gmail.com Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 I wanted to let you know about a current exhibit at the Jewish Museum in Milwaukee where I'll be giving a talk next week on Czech Jewish dressmakers. The families mentioned in the exhibit which centers around dressmaker Hedvig Strnad of Prague include: Penticka, Kohn, Ancerl or Antsherl, Neumann, Bauml and Neuschul. I do not have the documents myself but if you are interested in getting hold of them you can email the Education Director of the Museum, Ellie at:<educator@jewishmuseummilwaukee.org> And if you have friends in Milwaukee, the program begins at 11:30 am Shanah tovah to all, www.helenepstein.com www.plunkettlakepress.com
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Re: Early Immigration
#austria-czech
vshovlin@...
The Castle Garden site (www.castlegarden.org) is down. I called the Battery Conservancy and was
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told that their tech person was on vacation but the site should be back up by tomorrow or Wednesday. Virginia Virginia Shovlin vshovlin@sbcglobal.net
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