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Re: Family with the surname 'BERNARD' from Lyon, France #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

I will answer you privately. Nevertheless, I want to tell that
BERNARD is the second most common name in France (around 40 000),
after MARTIN (around 80 000). Even in Lyon, it may be difficult to
find the right ones.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


Looking for descendants of Sonia KATZENBERG. #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Good morning all,

Edward GRODSKY born approx 1893 in Russia, appears in the 1930 census as a
widower aged 37, with a 6 year old daughter Sonia. Address is given as
Beach 35th St, with his sister and brother-in-law Fanny and Hyman HESSEL.

I do not know whether Edward re-married, but it is believed that Sonia
married a KATZENBERG.

I have found her death SSDI listed as born Dec 1923 - died Feb 2000 - in
Miami-dade - Florida. I don't know if this is where she lived or not.

If anyone has information about Sonia, her husband, family, or about Edward,
please contact me privately.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Family with the surname 'BERNARD' from Lyon, France #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

I will answer you privately. Nevertheless, I want to tell that
BERNARD is the second most common name in France (around 40 000),
after MARTIN (around 80 000). Even in Lyon, it may be difficult to
find the right ones.
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for descendants of Sonia KATZENBERG. #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Good morning all,

Edward GRODSKY born approx 1893 in Russia, appears in the 1930 census as a
widower aged 37, with a 6 year old daughter Sonia. Address is given as
Beach 35th St, with his sister and brother-in-law Fanny and Hyman HESSEL.

I do not know whether Edward re-married, but it is believed that Sonia
married a KATZENBERG.

I have found her death SSDI listed as born Dec 1923 - died Feb 2000 - in
Miami-dade - Florida. I don't know if this is where she lived or not.

If anyone has information about Sonia, her husband, family, or about Edward,
please contact me privately.

Thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)


HAGER/TaZ [was: The Tauber Review - Feb-14-03] #rabbinic

Shmuel Shoshan <sshoshan@...>
 

On 2002.02.14, Larry Tauber <Ltauber@...> wrote:

[...] R. Menachem Mendel HAGER (1820-1884), son of R. Chaim HAGER
(1795-1854), son [column erroneously says grandson] of R. Menachem
Mendel HAGER (1768-1825), son of R. Yaacov Kopel Chosid HAGER-
KAPILETIS (d. 1787). Incidentally, Yaacov Kopel's mother-in-law,
Bluma, was the daughter of R. Mordechai, the son of R. David Halevi,
the Tur Zahav [...]
On my chart I show that Yaacov Kopel Chosid [d. 1787] was the son
of Nechemia Faivel [student of the Baal Shem Tov and son of Yaacov
Koppel Kamiel of Kolomai -- Descendant of Chachmei Provence and
Ovadia M'Bartenura]. N.F. had a brother, Zalman of Kolomai who
married Blima. Also, Zalman had a daughter, Chaya [Died 1775], who
married Yaacov Koppel Chosid [Thus, correctly, making Blima Y.K.
Chosid's mother-in-law. Y.K.C and Chaya were the parents of the
'Ahavas Sholom' [Menachem Mendel HAGER of Kosov].

However, I show Blima as the daughter of Shlomo Halevi [d. 1664],
son of the TaZ [1586-1667]. I note he is sometimes referred to as
Shlomo Zalman Halevy [but not Mordechai]. I would be interested in
any corrections/inputs on this segment of HAGER/TaZ.

Where does the name KAPILETIS (in HAGER-KAPILETIS) come from?

Note: Yaacov Koppel Kamiel's mother was 'Peril', The sister of the
Tosfot Yom Tov (Yomtov Lipman HELLER, Chief Rabbi of Prague, 1579-
1654]). Help: I have not been able to find the name of Y.K.K.'s
father.

Shmuel Shoshan
Zfat, Israel
mailto:Sam@...


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic HAGER/TaZ [was: The Tauber Review - Feb-14-03] #rabbinic

Shmuel Shoshan <sshoshan@...>
 

On 2002.02.14, Larry Tauber <Ltauber@...> wrote:

[...] R. Menachem Mendel HAGER (1820-1884), son of R. Chaim HAGER
(1795-1854), son [column erroneously says grandson] of R. Menachem
Mendel HAGER (1768-1825), son of R. Yaacov Kopel Chosid HAGER-
KAPILETIS (d. 1787). Incidentally, Yaacov Kopel's mother-in-law,
Bluma, was the daughter of R. Mordechai, the son of R. David Halevi,
the Tur Zahav [...]
On my chart I show that Yaacov Kopel Chosid [d. 1787] was the son
of Nechemia Faivel [student of the Baal Shem Tov and son of Yaacov
Koppel Kamiel of Kolomai -- Descendant of Chachmei Provence and
Ovadia M'Bartenura]. N.F. had a brother, Zalman of Kolomai who
married Blima. Also, Zalman had a daughter, Chaya [Died 1775], who
married Yaacov Koppel Chosid [Thus, correctly, making Blima Y.K.
Chosid's mother-in-law. Y.K.C and Chaya were the parents of the
'Ahavas Sholom' [Menachem Mendel HAGER of Kosov].

However, I show Blima as the daughter of Shlomo Halevi [d. 1664],
son of the TaZ [1586-1667]. I note he is sometimes referred to as
Shlomo Zalman Halevy [but not Mordechai]. I would be interested in
any corrections/inputs on this segment of HAGER/TaZ.

Where does the name KAPILETIS (in HAGER-KAPILETIS) come from?

Note: Yaacov Koppel Kamiel's mother was 'Peril', The sister of the
Tosfot Yom Tov (Yomtov Lipman HELLER, Chief Rabbi of Prague, 1579-
1654]). Help: I have not been able to find the name of Y.K.K.'s
father.

Shmuel Shoshan
Zfat, Israel
mailto:Sam@...


Appointment of Community Rabbis #rabbinic

Gilbert <gilbert.hendlisz@...>
 

Dear Ravsiggers,

I want to ask a question that may seem a bit naive. During the 18th
Century and the first part of the 19th Century, what was the process
of appointment of a community rabbi? I suppose that he was chosen
by the members of a community for his knowledge. Was he necessarily
a "graduate" >from a Yeshiva? And if this was the case for a few of
them, where were those yeshivas in Poland during the 18th Century?
Finally, do we have any sources about who were the students of such
yeshivas if they existed? I may have read somewhere that such a
"center" existed in Sochaczew around the middle of the 18th century.
Is this correct?

Any information would be welcome.

Gilbert Hendlisz (Brussels)


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Appointment of Community Rabbis #rabbinic

Gilbert <gilbert.hendlisz@...>
 

Dear Ravsiggers,

I want to ask a question that may seem a bit naive. During the 18th
Century and the first part of the 19th Century, what was the process
of appointment of a community rabbi? I suppose that he was chosen
by the members of a community for his knowledge. Was he necessarily
a "graduate" >from a Yeshiva? And if this was the case for a few of
them, where were those yeshivas in Poland during the 18th Century?
Finally, do we have any sources about who were the students of such
yeshivas if they existed? I may have read somewhere that such a
"center" existed in Sochaczew around the middle of the 18th century.
Is this correct?

Any information would be welcome.

Gilbert Hendlisz (Brussels)


Spy hysteria in Britain - 2nd world war #unitedkingdom

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

This inquiry isn't directly related to Jewish Genealogy, however, I thought
it might be of general interest (or concern) to those who lived through the
2nd World War. In a recent drama on American TV (originally aired on
British TV), one of the characters was a child who had been evacuated from
the East End of London to the country at the outbreak of war. In a closing
scene, shops in the East End owned by Italian immigrants were burned. This
presumably took place during the height of the "spy hysteria" which swept
England. As a former child evacuee, I had first-hand knowledge of the mass
evacuation. I also done considerable research into the internment of
so-called "enemy aliens" (including long-term resident Italians), however,
I'd never heard that any of the Italian-businesses being attacked. Did this
indeed take place?

Would be interested in getting people's reaction to this.

Naidia Woolf
rnwoolf@...

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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Spy hysteria in Britain - 2nd world war #unitedkingdom

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

This inquiry isn't directly related to Jewish Genealogy, however, I thought
it might be of general interest (or concern) to those who lived through the
2nd World War. In a recent drama on American TV (originally aired on
British TV), one of the characters was a child who had been evacuated from
the East End of London to the country at the outbreak of war. In a closing
scene, shops in the East End owned by Italian immigrants were burned. This
presumably took place during the height of the "spy hysteria" which swept
England. As a former child evacuee, I had first-hand knowledge of the mass
evacuation. I also done considerable research into the internment of
so-called "enemy aliens" (including long-term resident Italians), however,
I'd never heard that any of the Italian-businesses being attacked. Did this
indeed take place?

Would be interested in getting people's reaction to this.

Naidia Woolf
rnwoolf@...

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Re: Jewish Chronicle #unitedkingdom

SHEILA TOFFELL <toffell@...>
 

The Jewish Chronicle can be found at the NYC library on 5th and 41st in the
Dorot room of Jewish studies

Sheila Toffell


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Jewish Chronicle #unitedkingdom

SHEILA TOFFELL <toffell@...>
 

The Jewish Chronicle can be found at the NYC library on 5th and 41st in the
Dorot room of Jewish studies

Sheila Toffell


Re: Appointment of Community Rabbis #rabbinic

Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought <bict@...>
 

On 2002.02.18, Gilbert Hendlisz <gilbert.hendlisz@...> wrote:

During the 18th Century and the first part of the 19th Century, what
was the process of appointment of a community rabbi?
Whenever practical a son or son-in-law was chosen to succeed the
previous rabbi. The larger cities would often invite a rabbi >from a
smaller town. The smaller towns would often ask the leading rabbis
of the time to "recommend" a star disciple.

Although there were few "official" Yeshivas, the rabbi of nearly
every large community had at least a small group of disciples who
studied under him. It was also customary for some of the wealthy men
of the time to have a personal "Study Hall" where they would fully
support ten or more full-time talmudic students. (Much like the
kollel of today.)

In a real sense there were no "graduates." Students studied as long
as it was possible or practical for them. In nearly every community
there were (in addition to the Rabbi) a sizeable number of full-time
talmudic scholars who were generally supported by wealthy
individuals or by the community. "Rabbis" were ordained by elder
scholars, the leading rabbis of the generation. Often students
would travel to other towns to be tested in order to receive
ordination by various leading rabbis.

Regards,

Avraham Heschel
Brooklyn, NY


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Appointment of Community Rabbis #rabbinic

Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought <bict@...>
 

On 2002.02.18, Gilbert Hendlisz <gilbert.hendlisz@...> wrote:

During the 18th Century and the first part of the 19th Century, what
was the process of appointment of a community rabbi?
Whenever practical a son or son-in-law was chosen to succeed the
previous rabbi. The larger cities would often invite a rabbi >from a
smaller town. The smaller towns would often ask the leading rabbis
of the time to "recommend" a star disciple.

Although there were few "official" Yeshivas, the rabbi of nearly
every large community had at least a small group of disciples who
studied under him. It was also customary for some of the wealthy men
of the time to have a personal "Study Hall" where they would fully
support ten or more full-time talmudic students. (Much like the
kollel of today.)

In a real sense there were no "graduates." Students studied as long
as it was possible or practical for them. In nearly every community
there were (in addition to the Rabbi) a sizeable number of full-time
talmudic scholars who were generally supported by wealthy
individuals or by the community. "Rabbis" were ordained by elder
scholars, the leading rabbis of the generation. Often students
would travel to other towns to be tested in order to receive
ordination by various leading rabbis.

Regards,

Avraham Heschel
Brooklyn, NY


Phone directory look-up in Montreal: WALDSTEIN/WOODSTONE #general

GiltripM@...
 

I have been told that some of my WALDSTEIN ancestors immigrated to
Montreal, Canada and may have changed their name to WOODSTONE. I have not
been successful trying to locate either of these names in any on-line
directory and was wondering if someone who has access to a Montreal phone
directory could check these names for me.

Thanks.....Please respond privately.

Marjorie SHORT
N.Chelmsford, MA
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Phone directory look-up in Montreal: WALDSTEIN/WOODSTONE #general

GiltripM@...
 

I have been told that some of my WALDSTEIN ancestors immigrated to
Montreal, Canada and may have changed their name to WOODSTONE. I have not
been successful trying to locate either of these names in any on-line
directory and was wondering if someone who has access to a Montreal phone
directory could check these names for me.

Thanks.....Please respond privately.

Marjorie SHORT
N.Chelmsford, MA
USA


Re: Ostrowiec #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

What perfect timing for this question! I assume that you are referring to
Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski. I am currently working on the PSA order for the
Starachowice Branch Archives. Yes, contrary to some other internet sources
there are registers for Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski in the PSA. Jeff Geizhals
is the Archive Coordinator and the webpage for this project will be going
on-line shortly.

JRI-Poland's Warsaw team has just collected the index pages >from the PSA.
For Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski they provided the following:

Births- 1850-1866, 1868-1889
Marriages - 1826-1829, 1835-1849
Deaths - 1826-1833, 1835-1892

We are looking for volunteers to do the data entry on the Polish language
indices. You can contact me if you are willing and able.

We have not determined yet the qualifying contribution amount but donations
of any size are gratefully accepted, and donations to JRI-Poland are
tax-deductible for US taxpayers.

Donations can be accepted by check, VISA or MasterCard! Please earmark
your
contribution for the "Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski PSA Project.

Mail checks to:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
c/o Sheila Salo
5607 Greenleaf Rd
Cheverly, MD 20785
USA

Visa and MasterCard contributions may be phoned to Sheila at (301)
341-1261.
Or print out the form at: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/visa.htm by
clicking on the VISA Card and fax or mail it to Sheila. The fax number is
also (301) 341-1261. (8:00 AM to 8:00 PM Eastern time only, please.) For
selected countries, JRI-Poland is able to accept bank drafts in a donor's
local currency. Please check the JRI-Poland contributions web page for the

list of countries. If your country is not on the list, and you do not wish


to pay by credit card, please contact JRI-Poland Treasurer, Sheila Salo,
for
further help. The web site address is:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/contrib-non-us.htm

Thanks for your help in this important work.

<Hello Marcelo,

My people (BROCHSZTAJN) were >from Ostrowiec. I visited the city in 1999.
There is no Jewish community, of course. There is what is left of the
Jewish
cemetery, composed of broken stones in piles, with some standing in random
order. It appears well cared for. There is an old synagogue then painted
on
its exterior, a bright coat of orange-goldish paint. It was at one time a
cinema after the Jews were taken. There are records in the USC, but these
records of the Jewish community stop in 1942.

I can provide you a photo of the cemetery.

Harry>


JRI Poland #Poland RE: Ostrowiec #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

What perfect timing for this question! I assume that you are referring to
Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski. I am currently working on the PSA order for the
Starachowice Branch Archives. Yes, contrary to some other internet sources
there are registers for Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski in the PSA. Jeff Geizhals
is the Archive Coordinator and the webpage for this project will be going
on-line shortly.

JRI-Poland's Warsaw team has just collected the index pages >from the PSA.
For Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski they provided the following:

Births- 1850-1866, 1868-1889
Marriages - 1826-1829, 1835-1849
Deaths - 1826-1833, 1835-1892

We are looking for volunteers to do the data entry on the Polish language
indices. You can contact me if you are willing and able.

We have not determined yet the qualifying contribution amount but donations
of any size are gratefully accepted, and donations to JRI-Poland are
tax-deductible for US taxpayers.

Donations can be accepted by check, VISA or MasterCard! Please earmark
your
contribution for the "Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski PSA Project.

Mail checks to:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
c/o Sheila Salo
5607 Greenleaf Rd
Cheverly, MD 20785
USA

Visa and MasterCard contributions may be phoned to Sheila at (301)
341-1261.
Or print out the form at: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/visa.htm by
clicking on the VISA Card and fax or mail it to Sheila. The fax number is
also (301) 341-1261. (8:00 AM to 8:00 PM Eastern time only, please.) For
selected countries, JRI-Poland is able to accept bank drafts in a donor's
local currency. Please check the JRI-Poland contributions web page for the

list of countries. If your country is not on the list, and you do not wish


to pay by credit card, please contact JRI-Poland Treasurer, Sheila Salo,
for
further help. The web site address is:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/contrib-non-us.htm

Thanks for your help in this important work.

<Hello Marcelo,

My people (BROCHSZTAJN) were >from Ostrowiec. I visited the city in 1999.
There is no Jewish community, of course. There is what is left of the
Jewish
cemetery, composed of broken stones in piles, with some standing in random
order. It appears well cared for. There is an old synagogue then painted
on
its exterior, a bright coat of orange-goldish paint. It was at one time a
cinema after the Jews were taken. There are records in the USC, but these
records of the Jewish community stop in 1942.

I can provide you a photo of the cemetery.

Harry>


Re: Name "IRAM"? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Leslie Weinberg wrote:

Can anyone tell me what country the name IRAM might have originated?
Great-grandmother seems to have been named "Schewa Iram" - doesn't sound
very Polish to me, or Jewish, for that matter. Leslie
Nor to me. It's certainly an uncommon name.
But the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland database has a birth record for
Moses Chaim, the son of Schmul IRAM, born in Kolomyya
in 1878, and a marriage for Aron IRAM ? (I suppose the question mark
indicates that the transcriber was uncertain of the spelling) >from Mlawa
in 1881. And the Bukowsk Yiskor book at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/sanok/San579.html >
mentions a Menashe IRAM >from Sanok.

Robert Israel
israel@...

Vancouver, BC, Canada

MODERATOR NOTE: You can find the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Name "IRAM"? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Leslie Weinberg wrote:

Can anyone tell me what country the name IRAM might have originated?
Great-grandmother seems to have been named "Schewa Iram" - doesn't sound
very Polish to me, or Jewish, for that matter. Leslie
Nor to me. It's certainly an uncommon name.
But the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland database has a birth record for
Moses Chaim, the son of Schmul IRAM, born in Kolomyya
in 1878, and a marriage for Aron IRAM ? (I suppose the question mark
indicates that the transcriber was uncertain of the spelling) >from Mlawa
in 1881. And the Bukowsk Yiskor book at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/sanok/San579.html >
mentions a Menashe IRAM >from Sanok.

Robert Israel
israel@...

Vancouver, BC, Canada

MODERATOR NOTE: You can find the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/