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Re: Miriam/Malke #poland

Morrisons <emmorrison@...>
 

My great grandmother >from Poland was Malke. It was translated to
Mathilda in the U. S.

emmorrison@bendcable.com


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Miriam/Malke #poland

Morrisons <emmorrison@...>
 

My great grandmother >from Poland was Malke. It was translated to
Mathilda in the U. S.

emmorrison@bendcable.com


Re: Question about images of Tykocin cemetery #poland

Bialystoker
 

The photos I have taken of all these Cemeteries in the Bialystok
area were only meant as a survey of the general condition of
these Cemeteries and were not meant to provide documentation of
the inscriptions.

I realize that documentation is important and I am working on
documenting the Bialystok Cemetery. However, my trips to Poland
in 2001 and 2002 were for other purposes and I did not have the
time to photograph all the Matzevot at these cemeteries.

I agree that the Tykocin Jewish Cemetery is in horrible
condition. I do not know of any efforts to contact the town. I do
know that last year the representatives of the Jewish communities
of Poland placed legal claims to thousands of former Jewish
communal properties including Synagogues, Mikvahs, and
Cemeteries. If the Tykocin Cemetery was claimed, which is very
possible, then the town has no incentive to do anything until
ownership is settled.

Mark Halpern

----- Original Message -----
I just had a chance to look at the Shutterfly Adobe pix of
Tykocin cemetery.

The photos taken by Mark Halpern are very difficult to read at
the angle and >from the distance shot. The tombstones need some
preparation in case the etched letters are too faint to read
under normal light. I see also
that there are very few upright stones and what is there is in
a sorry
state.

Has anyone tried to get the municipality to care for the site,
at least to
fence it off >from cattle grazing?

Hope Mark can get his CD images on line for us. What might be
the oldest
stone in Tykocin still up?

Avigdor Ben-Dov
Kedumim
RUTKIEWICZ, SUSMAN, SOLARZ, NURZEC


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Re: Question about images of Tykocin cemetery #poland

Bialystoker
 

The photos I have taken of all these Cemeteries in the Bialystok
area were only meant as a survey of the general condition of
these Cemeteries and were not meant to provide documentation of
the inscriptions.

I realize that documentation is important and I am working on
documenting the Bialystok Cemetery. However, my trips to Poland
in 2001 and 2002 were for other purposes and I did not have the
time to photograph all the Matzevot at these cemeteries.

I agree that the Tykocin Jewish Cemetery is in horrible
condition. I do not know of any efforts to contact the town. I do
know that last year the representatives of the Jewish communities
of Poland placed legal claims to thousands of former Jewish
communal properties including Synagogues, Mikvahs, and
Cemeteries. If the Tykocin Cemetery was claimed, which is very
possible, then the town has no incentive to do anything until
ownership is settled.

Mark Halpern

----- Original Message -----
I just had a chance to look at the Shutterfly Adobe pix of
Tykocin cemetery.

The photos taken by Mark Halpern are very difficult to read at
the angle and >from the distance shot. The tombstones need some
preparation in case the etched letters are too faint to read
under normal light. I see also
that there are very few upright stones and what is there is in
a sorry
state.

Has anyone tried to get the municipality to care for the site,
at least to
fence it off >from cattle grazing?

Hope Mark can get his CD images on line for us. What might be
the oldest
stone in Tykocin still up?

Avigdor Ben-Dov
Kedumim
RUTKIEWICZ, SUSMAN, SOLARZ, NURZEC


ship's documents for first class passengers #general

Tracie Schneider <tracie157@...>
 

I understand that immigrants who did not travel steerage were not required
to go through the receiving center at Ellis Island. Does this mean that
first class passengers were not recorded on the ship's manifests at all?
Is there any way to find a passenger list or similar document on an
immigrant relative who did not go through Ellis Island but who came into NY
around 1910?

Tracie Schneider


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ship's documents for first class passengers #general

Tracie Schneider <tracie157@...>
 

I understand that immigrants who did not travel steerage were not required
to go through the receiving center at Ellis Island. Does this mean that
first class passengers were not recorded on the ship's manifests at all?
Is there any way to find a passenger list or similar document on an
immigrant relative who did not go through Ellis Island but who came into NY
around 1910?

Tracie Schneider


WAJS, SANDER, BOSSAK, SZTYKGOLD, ZYLBER, SZTEJNBERG #general

p.compoint@...
 

Hello fellow researchers,

I'm searching children or relatives of the following families >from Konin,
Poznan, Warsaw, Kleczew in Poland :

Markus GRUNWALD and Eugenia BOSSAK
Mojsie ZYLBER and Gustawa SANDER
Menasze SANDER and Recha SANDER
SZTEJNBERG Henrik and Jetta WAJS
Mosiek SZTYKGOLD and Gitla WAJS
Joseph SANDER and Frimeta WAJS
Mosiek WAJS and Lea BOSSAK.

Any information would be greatly appreciated,

Sincerely yours,

Antoine Djikpa
France


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WAJS, SANDER, BOSSAK, SZTYKGOLD, ZYLBER, SZTEJNBERG #general

p.compoint@...
 

Hello fellow researchers,

I'm searching children or relatives of the following families >from Konin,
Poznan, Warsaw, Kleczew in Poland :

Markus GRUNWALD and Eugenia BOSSAK
Mojsie ZYLBER and Gustawa SANDER
Menasze SANDER and Recha SANDER
SZTEJNBERG Henrik and Jetta WAJS
Mosiek SZTYKGOLD and Gitla WAJS
Joseph SANDER and Frimeta WAJS
Mosiek WAJS and Lea BOSSAK.

Any information would be greatly appreciated,

Sincerely yours,

Antoine Djikpa
France


Pierre FRYDMAN #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

Do someone know about Pierre FRYDMAN, who left France to the US after
WWII and whose last address was in Cambridge (Massachussetts). Please
respond privately. mailto:eve.line.blum@libertysurf.fr
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pierre FRYDMAN #general

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

Do someone know about Pierre FRYDMAN, who left France to the US after
WWII and whose last address was in Cambridge (Massachussetts). Please
respond privately. mailto:eve.line.blum@libertysurf.fr
--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org


Re: "Re: Janischok, Galicia" #general

NFatouros@...
 

On Oct. 29, 03, responding to Pamele Weisberger's inquiry about Janischok,
Alexander Sharon suggested Joniskis, and gave that town's alternate names:
"Janischki, Yanishke, Yanishki, Yanishok, Yenishok, Yonishkis, Yonishok,
and pobabably few more."

Ms. Weisberger should trust his response rather than mine. (I had thought
it might be Hanushishok, and didn't think at the time of my response of
substituting the "J" for a "Y" as I have learned to do. Now I hang my head.)


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL,
Shcherets; LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT,
Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Re: Janischok, Galicia" #general

NFatouros@...
 

On Oct. 29, 03, responding to Pamele Weisberger's inquiry about Janischok,
Alexander Sharon suggested Joniskis, and gave that town's alternate names:
"Janischki, Yanishke, Yanishki, Yanishok, Yenishok, Yonishkis, Yonishok,
and pobabably few more."

Ms. Weisberger should trust his response rather than mine. (I had thought
it might be Hanushishok, and didn't think at the time of my response of
substituting the "J" for a "Y" as I have learned to do. Now I hang my head.)


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL,
Shcherets; LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT,
Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.


Brzesko Surnames-A Progress Report #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Galicianers,
Since my last posting a week ago I managed to go
through most of the available sources:1891 Galicia
Business Directory,1929 Polish Business
Directory,JGFF,JRI-Poland,Auschwitz Museum online list
of 90,000 victims,
Nuremberg List of Victims and Yad Vashem Hall of
Names.
I am still waiting for the lists of Mr. Dov Landau
from Tel Aviv who is the chairman of Brzesko Survivors
Organization.
I thought it proper to update you since maybe there
others there in the bush who are trying to do the same
about other Shtetls.
Contrary to my initial assumption about 100 surnames I
have already 260 surnames!!!!
The major source of information with the most reliable
spelling is the 1929 Polish Business Directory. You do
not have to know Polish to go through it!!!!Jewishgen
provides a glossary.The drawback is of course that it
lists only families which had businesses(most did!!!).
Yad Vashem has 1100 records of victims >from Brzesko
but it is very confused because there are many
duplications,some testimonies were filled only
recently as in 1999 by a third generation relatives
who have a very vague idea about the spelling of those
names and wheteher they were born in Brzesko or lived
there after marrying some one >from there and will not
provide a maiden name. There is also a village called
Brzesko Nowe which is not Brzesko but is in the same
batch.Neighbouring villages are also included.
Unlike other memory books the Brzesko book has a lot
of facts and stories but no names of victims!!!
I hope to complete the list and include only those
surnames which appear in at least 2 of the a/m
sources,
unless I have a positive indication that a certain
family lived there at least until 1920 but was not in
business and left before 1939(Malz family for
example).
In the meantime I'll be able to respond to short
inquiries about surnames and respond in which data
base they may be found.Email me shortly and privately.
Remember!!!!
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Brzesko Surnames-A Progress Report #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Galicianers,
Since my last posting a week ago I managed to go
through most of the available sources:1891 Galicia
Business Directory,1929 Polish Business
Directory,JGFF,JRI-Poland,Auschwitz Museum online list
of 90,000 victims,
Nuremberg List of Victims and Yad Vashem Hall of
Names.
I am still waiting for the lists of Mr. Dov Landau
from Tel Aviv who is the chairman of Brzesko Survivors
Organization.
I thought it proper to update you since maybe there
others there in the bush who are trying to do the same
about other Shtetls.
Contrary to my initial assumption about 100 surnames I
have already 260 surnames!!!!
The major source of information with the most reliable
spelling is the 1929 Polish Business Directory. You do
not have to know Polish to go through it!!!!Jewishgen
provides a glossary.The drawback is of course that it
lists only families which had businesses(most did!!!).
Yad Vashem has 1100 records of victims >from Brzesko
but it is very confused because there are many
duplications,some testimonies were filled only
recently as in 1999 by a third generation relatives
who have a very vague idea about the spelling of those
names and wheteher they were born in Brzesko or lived
there after marrying some one >from there and will not
provide a maiden name. There is also a village called
Brzesko Nowe which is not Brzesko but is in the same
batch.Neighbouring villages are also included.
Unlike other memory books the Brzesko book has a lot
of facts and stories but no names of victims!!!
I hope to complete the list and include only those
surnames which appear in at least 2 of the a/m
sources,
unless I have a positive indication that a certain
family lived there at least until 1920 but was not in
business and left before 1939(Malz family for
example).
In the meantime I'll be able to respond to short
inquiries about surnames and respond in which data
base they may be found.Email me shortly and privately.
Remember!!!!
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


volunteer in Scottsburg? #general

Annemarie Jutel <jutel@...>
 

Is there anyone on the list in or near Scottsburg, Indiana, who might be
able to do a look-up for me?

Many thanks

Annemarie Jutel
Dunedin, New Zealand

Researching DROZDOWITZ/DROZDOWICZ/DROZDOW/DROSDOWITZ of Plonsk,
Zakroczym, Chicago, Ogden (UT), Indianapolis and New York. GOLDSTEIN
Marijampol, HIRSCHLER Manheim and Hessheim, MANHEIM Ottensoos, KAHN
Hannover, LOEB Strasbourg, and STEINBERG

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen volunteer in Scottsburg? #general

Annemarie Jutel <jutel@...>
 

Is there anyone on the list in or near Scottsburg, Indiana, who might be
able to do a look-up for me?

Many thanks

Annemarie Jutel
Dunedin, New Zealand

Researching DROZDOWITZ/DROZDOWICZ/DROZDOW/DROSDOWITZ of Plonsk,
Zakroczym, Chicago, Ogden (UT), Indianapolis and New York. GOLDSTEIN
Marijampol, HIRSCHLER Manheim and Hessheim, MANHEIM Ottensoos, KAHN
Hannover, LOEB Strasbourg, and STEINBERG

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Brzesko Surnames-A Progress Report #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Galicianers,
Since my last posting a week ago I managed to go
through most of the available sources:1891 Galicia
Business Directory,1929 Polish Business
Directory,JGFF,JRI-Poland,Auschwitz Museum online list
of 90,000 victims, Nuremberg List of Victims and Yad Vashem Hall of
Names.
I am still waiting for the lists of Mr. Dov Landau
from Tel Aviv who is the chairman of Brzesko Survivors
Organization.
I thought it proper to update you since maybe there
others there in the bush who are trying to do the same
about other Shtetls.
Contrary to my initial assumption about 100 surnames I
have already 260 surnames!!!!
The major source of information with the most reliable
spelling is the 1929 Polish Business Directory. You do
not have to know Polish to go through it!!!!Jewishgen
provides a glossary.The drawback is of course that it
lists only families which had businesses(most did!!!).
Yad Vashem has 1100 records of victims >from Brzesko
but it is very confused because there are many
duplications,some testimonies were filled only
recently as in 1999 by a third generation relatives
who have a very vague idea about the spelling of those
names and wheteher they were born in Brzesko or lived
there after marrying some one >from there and will not
provide a maiden name. There is also a village called
Brzesko Nowe which is not Brzesko but is in the same
batch.Neighbouring villages are also included.
Unlike other memory books the Brzesko book has a lot
of facts and stories but no names of victims!!!
I hope to complete the list and include only those
surnames which appear in at least 2 of the a/m
sources, unless I have a positive indication that a certain
family lived there at least until 1920 but was not in
business and left before 1939(MALZ family for
example).
In the meantime I'll be able to respond to short
inquiries about surnames and respond in which data
base they may be found.Email me shortly and privately.
Remember!!!!
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Brzesko Surnames-A Progress Report #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Galicianers,
Since my last posting a week ago I managed to go
through most of the available sources:1891 Galicia
Business Directory,1929 Polish Business
Directory,JGFF,JRI-Poland,Auschwitz Museum online list
of 90,000 victims, Nuremberg List of Victims and Yad Vashem Hall of
Names.
I am still waiting for the lists of Mr. Dov Landau
from Tel Aviv who is the chairman of Brzesko Survivors
Organization.
I thought it proper to update you since maybe there
others there in the bush who are trying to do the same
about other Shtetls.
Contrary to my initial assumption about 100 surnames I
have already 260 surnames!!!!
The major source of information with the most reliable
spelling is the 1929 Polish Business Directory. You do
not have to know Polish to go through it!!!!Jewishgen
provides a glossary.The drawback is of course that it
lists only families which had businesses(most did!!!).
Yad Vashem has 1100 records of victims >from Brzesko
but it is very confused because there are many
duplications,some testimonies were filled only
recently as in 1999 by a third generation relatives
who have a very vague idea about the spelling of those
names and wheteher they were born in Brzesko or lived
there after marrying some one >from there and will not
provide a maiden name. There is also a village called
Brzesko Nowe which is not Brzesko but is in the same
batch.Neighbouring villages are also included.
Unlike other memory books the Brzesko book has a lot
of facts and stories but no names of victims!!!
I hope to complete the list and include only those
surnames which appear in at least 2 of the a/m
sources, unless I have a positive indication that a certain
family lived there at least until 1920 but was not in
business and left before 1939(MALZ family for
example).
In the meantime I'll be able to respond to short
inquiries about surnames and respond in which data
base they may be found.Email me shortly and privately.
Remember!!!!
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Questions about Kishinev records, Bopolia, Travel documents in the 1880s #general

Joanne & Reuven GROZOVSKI <rjgroz@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have been receiving the JewishGen Discussion Group for several months
now, hoping that I will glean information concerning my family. Very
little has been helpful, but I've been interested in the discussions
generated and sometimes amused by the passion created (especially about
same sex partnerships).

I now have some questions, with which maybe someone can help me:

1. My know my paternal family (ROSEN/ROZIN/ROSIN/RAUSEN/or any possible
spelling) originated >from Kishinev (present-day Chisinau, Moldova), but I
have been unable to find any records to prove the fact. Do any records
from 1850 until 1890 exist (with transliteration into English) either on
the Web or in any offices?

2. Family myth has it that the family came >from Bopolia prior to
Kishinev. No searches (in Jewishgen, or google) have revealed any place
name like this. Does anyone have any ideas? how I can continue my search?

3. Without being able to 'prove' that my family came from
Kishinev/Bopolia, how can I trace the family further back? with only names
and no other details?

4. Does anyone know what documents were needed in the 1880's to travel
from Kishinev to Palestine? And whether I could trace them? (Both from
the place of departure and the place of arrival?)

Any information/leads would be most appreciated.

joanne rosen grozovski
email: rjgroz@netvision.net.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Questions about Kishinev records, Bopolia, Travel documents in the 1880s #general

Joanne & Reuven GROZOVSKI <rjgroz@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have been receiving the JewishGen Discussion Group for several months
now, hoping that I will glean information concerning my family. Very
little has been helpful, but I've been interested in the discussions
generated and sometimes amused by the passion created (especially about
same sex partnerships).

I now have some questions, with which maybe someone can help me:

1. My know my paternal family (ROSEN/ROZIN/ROSIN/RAUSEN/or any possible
spelling) originated >from Kishinev (present-day Chisinau, Moldova), but I
have been unable to find any records to prove the fact. Do any records
from 1850 until 1890 exist (with transliteration into English) either on
the Web or in any offices?

2. Family myth has it that the family came >from Bopolia prior to
Kishinev. No searches (in Jewishgen, or google) have revealed any place
name like this. Does anyone have any ideas? how I can continue my search?

3. Without being able to 'prove' that my family came from
Kishinev/Bopolia, how can I trace the family further back? with only names
and no other details?

4. Does anyone know what documents were needed in the 1880's to travel
from Kishinev to Palestine? And whether I could trace them? (Both from
the place of departure and the place of arrival?)

Any information/leads would be most appreciated.

joanne rosen grozovski
email: rjgroz@netvision.net.il