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Re: Researching EDELSTEIN family from Hildesheim #germany

martha <martha@...>
 

On the other hand, EDELSTEIN was a relatively common Jewish name in Courland,
now Latvia. It could be that the origin of the family name is >from Courland.

Martha Lev-Zion IGS-Negev Israel <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>


German SIG #Germany Re: Researching EDELSTEIN family from Hildesheim #germany

martha <martha@...>
 

On the other hand, EDELSTEIN was a relatively common Jewish name in Courland,
now Latvia. It could be that the origin of the family name is >from Courland.

Martha Lev-Zion IGS-Negev Israel <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>


Re: Name Changes #general

Mike Posnick
 

As many who read this list already know, the idea that names were changed
by immigration officials is simply wrong. Marian Smith, historian of the
former United States Immigration and Naturalization Service has debunked
this myth in several magazine articles, including at least one published in
Avotaynu, and in presentations given at several IAJGS International
Conferences on Jewish Genealogy.

Names were changed by the bearer (or their relatives), either before
migration or after. In many cases of post-migration name changes, the
change was adopted without any legal formalities.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota

In her Litvak SIG message of 1/1/2005, Cindy Gerstl <cindygerstl@juno.com>
wrote:

Often, complicated, multi-syllabic names were changed or simplified and
made more "American" by immigration officials. Part of my family was
given a new name by immigration officials who couldn't understand the
original last name. The original name was (Shimon) Bablowsky. The new
last name was taken >from Uncle Simon's first name, so that Shimon
Bablowsky became Shimon Simon or Simon Simon. Later-arriving family
members took the name Simon when they came through immigration. .


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Name Changes #lithuania

Mike Posnick
 

As many who read this list already know, the idea that names were changed
by immigration officials is simply wrong. Marian Smith, historian of the
former United States Immigration and Naturalization Service has debunked
this myth in several magazine articles, including at least one published in
Avotaynu, and in presentations given at several IAJGS International
Conferences on Jewish Genealogy.

Names were changed by the bearer (or their relatives), either before
migration or after. In many cases of post-migration name changes, the
change was adopted without any legal formalities.

Mike Posnick
Minneapolis, Minnesota

In her Litvak SIG message of 1/1/2005, Cindy Gerstl <cindygerstl@juno.com>
wrote:

Often, complicated, multi-syllabic names were changed or simplified and
made more "American" by immigration officials. Part of my family was
given a new name by immigration officials who couldn't understand the
original last name. The original name was (Shimon) Bablowsky. The new
last name was taken >from Uncle Simon's first name, so that Shimon
Bablowsky became Shimon Simon or Simon Simon. Later-arriving family
members took the name Simon when they came through immigration. .


Nachman MANDELBAUM #poland

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

To start off the new year, I thought I would pursue a new lead on a
relative. I am told and have found in directories that Nachman MANDELBAUM
was an expeditor who had a business at Piotrskowka 18 in Lodz >from at least
1920 to 1936. I also have a home address for him. I can't find him before
or after anywhere including Yad Vasham.

My great uncle worked for him when he first arrived in Lodz.

Please contact me if you have this person in your family.

Jackye Sullins
San Diego


JRI Poland #Poland Nachman MANDELBAUM #poland

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

To start off the new year, I thought I would pursue a new lead on a
relative. I am told and have found in directories that Nachman MANDELBAUM
was an expeditor who had a business at Piotrskowka 18 in Lodz >from at least
1920 to 1936. I also have a home address for him. I can't find him before
or after anywhere including Yad Vasham.

My great uncle worked for him when he first arrived in Lodz.

Please contact me if you have this person in your family.

Jackye Sullins
San Diego


Re: Drohobycz:King Wladyslaw Jagiello Gymnasium Photo #galicia

Jurek Hirschberg <jurek@...>
 

The man seated second >from the right on the front raw is Bruno Schulz.
The name Schulz is written below. Bruno Schulz attended this very school
as a pupil and returned to teach drawing and crafts between 1924 and
1941. I don't know whether the photograph that you have posted is
unique, other copies are most probably known to Schulz scholars - if not
than this is an interesting contribution to the pictorial documentation
of his life.

Regards,

Jurek Hirschberg
Stockholm

Tarnopol: HIRSCHBERG, GOLIGER
Skalat: BERNSTEIN, ROSENZWEIG, PODHORCER, PERLMUTTER


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've posted a photograph, taken in Drohobycz, Poland (Galicia) today,
Ukraine, circa 1934 to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the King
Wladyslaw Jagiello Gymnasium on JG's Viewmate.

The image can be viewed at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3D5295

If you can identify any of the teachers or students in this picture,
please
contact me privately. However, if you have information about this
school,
students or teachers that might be of interest to the entire group,
please
respond to the list.

This photograph was provided by David Einsiedler, who was a student
there
for six years, graduating in 1937. He is the student in the fourth row
back--dead center with a v-neck white-collared shirt.)

There are also some partial surnames written at the bottom which may be
familiar to you.

Thank you.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


JRI Poland #Poland SV: Drohobycz:King Wladyslaw Jagiello Gymnasium Photo #poland

Jurek Hirschberg <jurek@...>
 

The man seated second >from the right on the front raw is Bruno Schulz.
The name Schulz is written below. Bruno Schulz attended this very school
as a pupil and returned to teach drawing and crafts between 1924 and
1941. I don't know whether the photograph that you have posted is
unique, other copies are most probably known to Schulz scholars - if not
than this is an interesting contribution to the pictorial documentation
of his life.

Regards,

Jurek Hirschberg
Stockholm

Tarnopol: HIRSCHBERG, GOLIGER
Skalat: BERNSTEIN, ROSENZWEIG, PODHORCER, PERLMUTTER


-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've posted a photograph, taken in Drohobycz, Poland (Galicia) today,
Ukraine, circa 1934 to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the King
Wladyslaw Jagiello Gymnasium on JG's Viewmate.

The image can be viewed at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3D5295

If you can identify any of the teachers or students in this picture,
please
contact me privately. However, if you have information about this
school,
students or teachers that might be of interest to the entire group,
please
respond to the list.

This photograph was provided by David Einsiedler, who was a student
there
for six years, graduating in 1937. He is the student in the fourth row
back--dead center with a v-neck white-collared shirt.)

There are also some partial surnames written at the bottom which may be
familiar to you.

Thank you.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Re: GLATZERs of Glatz now known as Klodzko #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Dear Jewel:
Glatz (Lower Silesia) is represented in the LDS microfilm collection
only by death/burial records that cover the period 1832-1940.

The Polish State Archives database, however, shows that the Wroclaw
(Breslau) archives contain all the Jewish marriage and death records for
Glatz for the period 1812-1874 (i.e., >from the time Jews were offered
limited citizenship to the end of separate record-keeping), plus birth
records for 1844-1874.

When did your husband's ancestors live in Glatz? Remember, surnames
that refer to a place were generally adopted by people who had
*previously* lived in that place, or whose ancestors came >from there.
Imagine if all the Jews in Breslau had called themselves BRESLAUER! Of
over 1,000 households in Breslau in 1812, only three had that surname.

For that matter, only one family in Middle and Upper had the name
GLATZER: the family of Esias Nathan GLATZER. (I don't have a
citizenship list for Lower Silesia, alas--though I'm told that there is
one somewhere.)

As to "Mrs. Issakhar GLATZER", that would imply a "Mr. Issakhar
GLATZER"--and he probably had a different given name outside the
synagogue. Perhaps the civil records would list him as Ber or Berel or
Bernhard--or something altogether different.

Good luck!

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA
researching Upper Silesia, mainly

JELORRAINE wrote:

My husbands great grandfather originated >from Glatz, there were Glatz Rivers
Mountains and all other. Was there a Mrs Issakhar GLATZER? I would like to know
how to find her if there are any records in the new Glatz. KLodzko. If
anybody has any knowlege of this area I would greatly appreciated the
information.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: GLATZERs of Glatz now known as Klodzko #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Dear Jewel:
Glatz (Lower Silesia) is represented in the LDS microfilm collection
only by death/burial records that cover the period 1832-1940.

The Polish State Archives database, however, shows that the Wroclaw
(Breslau) archives contain all the Jewish marriage and death records for
Glatz for the period 1812-1874 (i.e., >from the time Jews were offered
limited citizenship to the end of separate record-keeping), plus birth
records for 1844-1874.

When did your husband's ancestors live in Glatz? Remember, surnames
that refer to a place were generally adopted by people who had
*previously* lived in that place, or whose ancestors came >from there.
Imagine if all the Jews in Breslau had called themselves BRESLAUER! Of
over 1,000 households in Breslau in 1812, only three had that surname.

For that matter, only one family in Middle and Upper had the name
GLATZER: the family of Esias Nathan GLATZER. (I don't have a
citizenship list for Lower Silesia, alas--though I'm told that there is
one somewhere.)

As to "Mrs. Issakhar GLATZER", that would imply a "Mr. Issakhar
GLATZER"--and he probably had a different given name outside the
synagogue. Perhaps the civil records would list him as Ber or Berel or
Bernhard--or something altogether different.

Good luck!

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA
researching Upper Silesia, mainly

JELORRAINE wrote:

My husbands great grandfather originated >from Glatz, there were Glatz Rivers
Mountains and all other. Was there a Mrs Issakhar GLATZER? I would like to know
how to find her if there are any records in the new Glatz. KLodzko. If
anybody has any knowlege of this area I would greatly appreciated the
information.


Nachman MANDELBAUM #general

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

To start off the new year, I thought I would pursue a new lead on a
relative. I am told and have found in directories that Nachman MANDELBAUM
was an expeditor who had a business at Piotrskowka 18 in Lodz >from at least
1920 to 1936. I also have a home address for him. I can't find him before
or after anywhere including Yad Vasham.

My great uncle worked for him when he first arrived in Lodz.

Please contact me if you have this person in your family.

Jackye Sullins
San Diego


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Nachman MANDELBAUM #general

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

To start off the new year, I thought I would pursue a new lead on a
relative. I am told and have found in directories that Nachman MANDELBAUM
was an expeditor who had a business at Piotrskowka 18 in Lodz >from at least
1920 to 1936. I also have a home address for him. I can't find him before
or after anywhere including Yad Vasham.

My great uncle worked for him when he first arrived in Lodz.

Please contact me if you have this person in your family.

Jackye Sullins
San Diego


BERNSTEIN, Sarah and Rose #general

Alan Steinfeld <alansteinfeld@...>
 

Looking for information on sisters Sarah and Rose BERNSTEIN who lived on
Bathgate Avenue in the Bronx, New York in the late 1920's and early
30's. Rose never married. Sarah attended PS 58. Sarah was born in 1919.

Please respond privately.

Alan Steinfeld
Scarsdale, NY
alansteinfeld@optonline.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BERNSTEIN, Sarah and Rose #general

Alan Steinfeld <alansteinfeld@...>
 

Looking for information on sisters Sarah and Rose BERNSTEIN who lived on
Bathgate Avenue in the Bronx, New York in the late 1920's and early
30's. Rose never married. Sarah attended PS 58. Sarah was born in 1919.

Please respond privately.

Alan Steinfeld
Scarsdale, NY
alansteinfeld@optonline.net


Re: Declaration of intention #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

Marilyn -

I don't think you will find the parents' names on
the declaration of intent. The few I have just include
the person's name, when he arrived, and where he
came >from [Russia, Poland - kind of vague LOL]

Several sources for his parents' names would be:

death certificate
obituary
marriage certificate
social security application

Did he have brothers and sisters? You might
find the information you need on the documents
of the siblings.

There are passenger records for Baltimore -
maybe he came over with other family members -
take a look here
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/passengers.html

Lisa

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marilyn F" <mrl516@bellsouth.net>
Does the declaration of intention include the petitioners parents names?
I am trying to locate Shimon Rosenthal who came in to the US through
Baltimore. In 1913 he lived in Pittsburgh. I am trying to find out who his
parents were. Any help will be appreciated. Perhaps I should be searching
Baltimore since I'm not having in luck in Pittsburgh. Thanks in advance for
ideas. Marilyn Feingold USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Declaration of intention #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

Marilyn -

I don't think you will find the parents' names on
the declaration of intent. The few I have just include
the person's name, when he arrived, and where he
came >from [Russia, Poland - kind of vague LOL]

Several sources for his parents' names would be:

death certificate
obituary
marriage certificate
social security application

Did he have brothers and sisters? You might
find the information you need on the documents
of the siblings.

There are passenger records for Baltimore -
maybe he came over with other family members -
take a look here
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/passengers.html

Lisa

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marilyn F" <mrl516@bellsouth.net>
Does the declaration of intention include the petitioners parents names?
I am trying to locate Shimon Rosenthal who came in to the US through
Baltimore. In 1913 he lived in Pittsburgh. I am trying to find out who his
parents were. Any help will be appreciated. Perhaps I should be searching
Baltimore since I'm not having in luck in Pittsburgh. Thanks in advance for
ideas. Marilyn Feingold USA


Brest Ghetto Passports #belarus

Joseph Hirschfield
 

Although the Holocaust Museum in Washington can provide copies of the passports I believe the copies may not be as good a quality as can be obtained >from Yad Vashem. This is because I believe the Holocaust Museum's copies were made >from Yad Vashem's copies, making them one degree further >from the originals stored in Russia.

Yad Vashem has a voluntary charge for copies but they may be worth the better quality. Contact Oxana Korol at Yad Vashem.


Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
MINIEVITSKI, TOBIASZ Brest Litovsk


Belarus SIG #Belarus Brest Ghetto Passports #belarus

Joseph Hirschfield
 

Although the Holocaust Museum in Washington can provide copies of the passports I believe the copies may not be as good a quality as can be obtained >from Yad Vashem. This is because I believe the Holocaust Museum's copies were made >from Yad Vashem's copies, making them one degree further >from the originals stored in Russia.

Yad Vashem has a voluntary charge for copies but they may be worth the better quality. Contact Oxana Korol at Yad Vashem.


Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
MINIEVITSKI, TOBIASZ Brest Litovsk


Re: Help me find my family burial info! Mt. Hebron, Mt. Zion #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

For information re the burials in Mt. Zion , contact Karen Grego.
KarenG@mountzioncemetery.com She has been so cooperative, sending me free
copies of the Goldberg burial cards as well as photos of the grave stones
for a small fee. She might be able to give you a contact name at Mt. Hebron.

Happy New Year,

Joan Parker
Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
Miami, FL
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine, Bronx
and Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.

I've been recenly told that my family is buried in Mr. Hebron and Mt. Zion
Cemetaries in Queens(?)/Long Island NY.

I've been searching for a database of those buried in these cemetaries. I
figure that maintaining a database is the least the cemetary can do, yet
I have been unable to find one.

I can't even find email address contacts for people maintaining these two
cemetaries.

I'd appreciate any help possible. I live in London England now and so it is
quite difficult for me to make a visit. I did notice that some kind of
cemetary photos listserve exists but I'm not sure if it is free, how to join
etc. Thanks for any info.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Help me find my family burial info! Mt. Hebron, Mt. Zion #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

For information re the burials in Mt. Zion , contact Karen Grego.
KarenG@mountzioncemetery.com She has been so cooperative, sending me free
copies of the Goldberg burial cards as well as photos of the grave stones
for a small fee. She might be able to give you a contact name at Mt. Hebron.

Happy New Year,

Joan Parker
Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
Miami, FL
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine, Bronx
and Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.

I've been recenly told that my family is buried in Mr. Hebron and Mt. Zion
Cemetaries in Queens(?)/Long Island NY.

I've been searching for a database of those buried in these cemetaries. I
figure that maintaining a database is the least the cemetary can do, yet
I have been unable to find one.

I can't even find email address contacts for people maintaining these two
cemetaries.

I'd appreciate any help possible. I live in London England now and so it is
quite difficult for me to make a visit. I did notice that some kind of
cemetary photos listserve exists but I'm not sure if it is free, how to join
etc. Thanks for any info.