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city location #hungary

Cass Twitchell <twitchel@...>
 

Does anyone have any information re the location of the town, vilage or city
of Csur Hungary 11/87?
Cassandra Csuri Twitchell,
Ashland Ohio USA
Re: New to List #hungary

Arnold Samlan
 

Many thanks for your note regarding the 1911 Canadian Census. Unfortunately,
there is not yet a name index, and thus far we have not located an address
at which they've lived in Montreal.

Hopefully, I will be able to get more information through other research
that I'm working on.

Arnold D. Samlan
West Hempstead, NY
Hungary SIG #Hungary city location #hungary

Cass Twitchell <twitchel@...>
 

Does anyone have any information re the location of the town, vilage or city
of Csur Hungary 11/87?
Cassandra Csuri Twitchell,
Ashland Ohio USA
Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: New to List #hungary

Arnold Samlan
 

Many thanks for your note regarding the 1911 Canadian Census. Unfortunately,
there is not yet a name index, and thus far we have not located an address
at which they've lived in Montreal.

Hopefully, I will be able to get more information through other research
that I'm working on.

Arnold D. Samlan
West Hempstead, NY
Lancut tax list 1821 #poland

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

I have received an 1821 tax list for Lancut (Galicia), one of the few known
(to me) records surviving >from Lancut. You can view extracted data and
scans at www.kalter.org/lancut.php. If you know anything additional about
the people listed, please tell me.

Thanks very much and best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.
JRI Poland #Poland Lancut tax list 1821 #poland

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

I have received an 1821 tax list for Lancut (Galicia), one of the few known
(to me) records surviving >from Lancut. You can view extracted data and
scans at www.kalter.org/lancut.php. If you know anything additional about
the people listed, please tell me.

Thanks very much and best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.
Re: Illiterate Witnesses? #poland

BARBARU@...
 

I wonder if these Jewish witnesses "signed" their names with OOO because
the X was similar to a cross?

Barbara Adelman Seidman, New Jersey, USA
searching for: ADELMAN/EDELMAN/EIDELMANN, KOHEN/COHEN Korsun/Kiev,
Russia/Ukraine,Syracuse New York, New York City
NUSBAUM/GERZBERG/HERZBERG/WERTHEIM Miedzyrzec/Seidlce/Warszawa,
Poland/Russia,New York City
KOHEN/COHEN/KOGEN Medzhibozh/Podalia,Russia/Ukraine,New York City
JRI Poland #Poland Re: Illiterate Witnesses? #poland

BARBARU@...
 

I wonder if these Jewish witnesses "signed" their names with OOO because
the X was similar to a cross?

Barbara Adelman Seidman, New Jersey, USA
searching for: ADELMAN/EDELMAN/EIDELMANN, KOHEN/COHEN Korsun/Kiev,
Russia/Ukraine,Syracuse New York, New York City
NUSBAUM/GERZBERG/HERZBERG/WERTHEIM Miedzyrzec/Seidlce/Warszawa,
Poland/Russia,New York City
KOHEN/COHEN/KOGEN Medzhibozh/Podalia,Russia/Ukraine,New York City
OOO or are they illiterate #poland

Greg Tuckman
 

Hello group,

There has been a big discussion as to what 000 means. While not an
expert, my understanding is that it means our ancestors could not write
in Polish. In my history I have records that are signed 000 and records
signed by the same people in Yiddish. It simply means that they could
not sign their names in Latin characters, so they were considered
illiterate by those in charge. They were still fluent in Hebrew and
Yiddish. Again, not an expert, but his is what I have seen.

Greg Tuckman
Tempe, AZ, USA
JRI Poland #Poland OOO or are they illiterate #poland

Greg Tuckman
 

Hello group,

There has been a big discussion as to what 000 means. While not an
expert, my understanding is that it means our ancestors could not write
in Polish. In my history I have records that are signed 000 and records
signed by the same people in Yiddish. It simply means that they could
not sign their names in Latin characters, so they were considered
illiterate by those in charge. They were still fluent in Hebrew and
Yiddish. Again, not an expert, but his is what I have seen.

Greg Tuckman
Tempe, AZ, USA
Contradiction in documents #lithuania

"רוזן
 

Dear SIG members,

To my request I received >from the LITHUANIAN STATE HISTORICAL ARCHIVES
at Vilna the following list:

--start quote
THE VITAL RECORDS OF SEDUVA JEWISH COMMUNITY AND PANEVEZYS RABBINATE
1. Aronas Steinas, son of Chielis and Chana, married to Etel Sera(aite),
daughter of Rachmielis and Sara-Feige in 1925;
2. Rachmielis, son of Aaronas Shteinas and Eta nee Ser9aite), was born
in 1932;
etc
--end quote

When the detailed documents arrived I found out that no. 2 is not
Aaronas as written in the list, but Avraham. To my inquiery at the
archives I received an apology for the mistake they made "because the
names are similar". However a family member who knew these people
testifies that the name they used is Aharon (Aaronas) and "nobody knows
who Avraham is ".

May I assume that he had both names and only by hazard was one or the
other written in the documents?

Many Thanks,

Anat Rosen
Abirim, Israel
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Contradiction in documents #lithuania

"רוזן
 

Dear SIG members,

To my request I received >from the LITHUANIAN STATE HISTORICAL ARCHIVES
at Vilna the following list:

--start quote
THE VITAL RECORDS OF SEDUVA JEWISH COMMUNITY AND PANEVEZYS RABBINATE
1. Aronas Steinas, son of Chielis and Chana, married to Etel Sera(aite),
daughter of Rachmielis and Sara-Feige in 1925;
2. Rachmielis, son of Aaronas Shteinas and Eta nee Ser9aite), was born
in 1932;
etc
--end quote

When the detailed documents arrived I found out that no. 2 is not
Aaronas as written in the list, but Avraham. To my inquiery at the
archives I received an apology for the mistake they made "because the
names are similar". However a family member who knew these people
testifies that the name they used is Aharon (Aaronas) and "nobody knows
who Avraham is ".

May I assume that he had both names and only by hazard was one or the
other written in the documents?

Many Thanks,

Anat Rosen
Abirim, Israel
Birth records for Shavil #lithuania

Irene K. <impromptus2002@...>
 

Birth records for the town Shavil province of Siauliai
are in the State Historical Archives in Vilnius.
Meanwhile I have checked my files and the 1878 records
are missing. My advice is to write directly to Galina
Baranova (Deputy department manager)
in order to be sure that birth records of that year
either exist or vanished.
If you need any other assistance, please, contact me
privately.

Irene Kudish iresearcher@gmail.com
Tel-Aviv

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Contact information for Galina Baranova can
be found in the LitvakSIG Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ),
linked >from the LitvakSIG homepage www.jewishgen.org/litvak/
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Birth records for Shavil #lithuania

Irene K. <impromptus2002@...>
 

Birth records for the town Shavil province of Siauliai
are in the State Historical Archives in Vilnius.
Meanwhile I have checked my files and the 1878 records
are missing. My advice is to write directly to Galina
Baranova (Deputy department manager)
in order to be sure that birth records of that year
either exist or vanished.
If you need any other assistance, please, contact me
privately.

Irene Kudish iresearcher@gmail.com
Tel-Aviv

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Contact information for Galina Baranova can
be found in the LitvakSIG Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ),
linked >from the LitvakSIG homepage www.jewishgen.org/litvak/
Re: Shavil; Siauliai #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Locating Lithuanian vital records (births, marriages and deaths) is not the
same as looking, for instance, in Western European, American, Canadian,
Australian, Israeli or South African archives where there are comprehensive
existing records which go back many generations or even centuries.

Due to wars, fires, and other such instances, the Lithuanian records can be
spotty or non-existent for many shtetls and, in the case of females, there
may be little there.

In some cases, such as the records for Kupiskis, Lithuania, the pre-1920
birth records only exist for 1900-1910. There are no existing birth records
prior to 1900. In addition, many of the years between 1900-1910 are
missing. This leaves a very big hole for research. The only way we have
been able to fill this is to search and cross-reference the marriage and
death records if they exist as well as the family lists, revision lists,
etc., which mention our families and give ages.

In addition, according to the "Jewish Vital Records, Revision Lists and
Other Jewish Holdings in the Lithuanian Archives" by Harold Rhode & Sallyann
Amdue Sack, published in 1996 by Avotaynu, Inc., there are no birth,
marriage or death records for Siauliai, although there are various other
records. Since the publication of this resource, there have been a number
of additional finds of records in the Archives, but none that I know of for
Siauliai vital records.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Shavil; Siauliai #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Locating Lithuanian vital records (births, marriages and deaths) is not the
same as looking, for instance, in Western European, American, Canadian,
Australian, Israeli or South African archives where there are comprehensive
existing records which go back many generations or even centuries.

Due to wars, fires, and other such instances, the Lithuanian records can be
spotty or non-existent for many shtetls and, in the case of females, there
may be little there.

In some cases, such as the records for Kupiskis, Lithuania, the pre-1920
birth records only exist for 1900-1910. There are no existing birth records
prior to 1900. In addition, many of the years between 1900-1910 are
missing. This leaves a very big hole for research. The only way we have
been able to fill this is to search and cross-reference the marriage and
death records if they exist as well as the family lists, revision lists,
etc., which mention our families and give ages.

In addition, according to the "Jewish Vital Records, Revision Lists and
Other Jewish Holdings in the Lithuanian Archives" by Harold Rhode & Sallyann
Amdue Sack, published in 1996 by Avotaynu, Inc., there are no birth,
marriage or death records for Siauliai, although there are various other
records. Since the publication of this resource, there have been a number
of additional finds of records in the Archives, but none that I know of for
Siauliai vital records.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net
First United Independent Pokaminer @ Mt Zion Cemetery Queens #general

sgootman@...
 

I am trying to find out more about my grandparents Hyman and Mathilda YOTES.
There are buried At Mt. Zion Cemetery in Masbeth Queens NY with the First
United Pokaminer Congregation. There is no information at the cemetery about
this organization other then it longer exists. I can not find it on the WPA list.
If anyone has information about this I would appreciate it if you could contact
me @ tljn1129@yahoo.com. Thank you.

Sheila Gootman
Long Island NY
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen First United Independent Pokaminer @ Mt Zion Cemetery Queens #general

sgootman@...
 

I am trying to find out more about my grandparents Hyman and Mathilda YOTES.
There are buried At Mt. Zion Cemetery in Masbeth Queens NY with the First
United Pokaminer Congregation. There is no information at the cemetery about
this organization other then it longer exists. I can not find it on the WPA list.
If anyone has information about this I would appreciate it if you could contact
me @ tljn1129@yahoo.com. Thank you.

Sheila Gootman
Long Island NY
Re: Preservation of electronic records #germany

Keith Martin <keithmart@...>
 

whilst I agree with the sentiments of preserving electronic information, the
idea of using a "universal" language has been tried before. As no-one has a
crystal ball that can know which way technology will go, the universal
language approach fails.

Good old pieces of paper last through the centuries, and computers can print
out their information on paper.

It is still the best approach to future proof in my opinion

Best regards
Keith Martin
Leeds UK
Researching Staal, Vaz Martines, Hambro
amongst others

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Mason" <dmason@alphalink.com.au>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:29 AM
Subject: Preservation of electronic records

We use computers to store the stories and images of our family's
histories. We hope our records will be available to our future
generations, so they may be appreciated by them.
snip>>>
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Preservation of electronic records #general

Keith Martin <keithmart@...>
 

whilst I agree with the sentiments of preserving electronic information, the
idea of using a "universal" language has been tried before. As no-one has a
crystal ball that can know which way technology will go, the universal
language approach fails.

Good old pieces of paper last through the centuries, and computers can print
out their information on paper.

It is still the best approach to future proof in my opinion

Best regards
Keith Martin
Leeds UK
Researching Staal, Vaz Martines, Hambro
amongst others

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Mason" <dmason@alphalink.com.au>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:29 AM
Subject: Preservation of electronic records

We use computers to store the stories and images of our family's
histories. We hope our records will be available to our future
generations, so they may be appreciated by them.
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