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Ellen GOLDSMITH #general

Carol Hoffman <saftacarol@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I'm looking for a cousin who was born and raised in the Chicago area, maiden
name - Ellen GOLDSMITH. I think she might be an attorney. Ellen, if you are
reading this, or if anyone might have contact with her, please let me hear
from you. Our link is through Ellen's maternal grandparents and my parents.
Hopeful!
Carol Hoffman (formerly of Pittsburgh, PA)
researching LEVISON, LEVINSON, OFCHINSKAS, OVCHINSKY, KOWALSKY
Please reply privately saftacarol@attglobal.net or saftacarol@gmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ellen GOLDSMITH #general

Carol Hoffman <saftacarol@...>
 

Dear Genners,
I'm looking for a cousin who was born and raised in the Chicago area, maiden
name - Ellen GOLDSMITH. I think she might be an attorney. Ellen, if you are
reading this, or if anyone might have contact with her, please let me hear
from you. Our link is through Ellen's maternal grandparents and my parents.
Hopeful!
Carol Hoffman (formerly of Pittsburgh, PA)
researching LEVISON, LEVINSON, OFCHINSKAS, OVCHINSKY, KOWALSKY
Please reply privately saftacarol@attglobal.net or saftacarol@gmail.com


Jews of Kolin-RE: FRIEDLAENDER #austria-czech

Gabriela Svatos
 

There was a book published in Czech about the history of the Kolin jews:

Title: Sbornik z historie zidu na Kolinsku
Author: Miskovska, Zuzana
ISBN: 80-900718-2-1
Published: Kolin, J. Drahovzal, 1992

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Jews of Kolin-RE: FRIEDLAENDER #austria-czech

Gabriela Svatos
 

There was a book published in Czech about the history of the Kolin jews:

Title: Sbornik z historie zidu na Kolinsku
Author: Miskovska, Zuzana
ISBN: 80-900718-2-1
Published: Kolin, J. Drahovzal, 1992

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com


Pamela Furmidge's Family Mystery #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

Pamela Furmidge is trying to reasearch her grandfather
and his family.

I think your family mystery lies with your mother. If
you can locate her birth record, probably in the city
of Arad records then I think you will have your
grandfather's proper name.

Was your mother in the Heller grandfather's will who
died in 1928? I am sure you must have thought about
the interesting fact that the "grandfather" you found
had children in the U.K. in 1905 and fathered your
mother in Hungary in 1911 and possibly other children
and still supposedly living and finally being buried
in the UK in 1928. Could you be loooking at two
different Hellers?

I suspect that you must have carefully looked through
your mother's papers for birth records, travel
documents, immigration papers, etc. In any case if
she was born in Arad in 1911 her birth had to
registered with the authorities in Arad and her father
and mother's names were also recorded. This should be
your best bet for finding your grandfather's proper
name.
John Kovacs


Hungary SIG #Hungary Pamela Furmidge's Family Mystery #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

Pamela Furmidge is trying to reasearch her grandfather
and his family.

I think your family mystery lies with your mother. If
you can locate her birth record, probably in the city
of Arad records then I think you will have your
grandfather's proper name.

Was your mother in the Heller grandfather's will who
died in 1928? I am sure you must have thought about
the interesting fact that the "grandfather" you found
had children in the U.K. in 1905 and fathered your
mother in Hungary in 1911 and possibly other children
and still supposedly living and finally being buried
in the UK in 1928. Could you be loooking at two
different Hellers?

I suspect that you must have carefully looked through
your mother's papers for birth records, travel
documents, immigration papers, etc. In any case if
she was born in Arad in 1911 her birth had to
registered with the authorities in Arad and her father
and mother's names were also recorded. This should be
your best bet for finding your grandfather's proper
name.
John Kovacs


Re: Search for the book *By Grace Alone* #hungary

meretz
 

Thanks to Robert Neu for guiding me to the site of Bookshare.org
http://www.bookshare.org/web/BooksByAuthor.html?author_id=5279 . I am aware
of that site and they indeed have this book in their on line library.
However, to be able to download a book through Bookshare.org, provided you
are a US resident, you have to prove print reading disability and pay $25 to
sign up and a $50 annual subscription.
Fortunately, print reading disability does not apply to me.
Uri Meretz, Israel

Moderator: Please contact Uri off-list with suggestions and offers of assistance.


*re: A puzzle - searching for Martin Heller and family #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear Pamela,

Of course you have *one clue*, which is that your mother was born in Arad. Arad is now in Romania, but belonged to Hungary and was located in Transylvania. Try searching beginning >from there.

Another clue is the "long" name your grandfather carried. This is a long shot, but he could have noble ascendency. Only nobles used several given names, certainly it must have been very rare for Jews to carry four given names (Martin Carl Philip Ferdinand). All of these names are non-Jewish and specially Carl and Philip were common among German-Austrian nobility. Being a noble brings some research advantages, since there are special registers for Hungarian-Austrian noblemen.

BTW, usually one has to search using place names and not family names. Vital records are classified and stored according to the town where the registration was conducted.

Good luck
Tom

At 01:00 -0500 22.10.2005, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: A puzzle - searching for Martin Heller and family
From: "Pamela Furmidge" <pamela.furmidge@proverba.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:36:22 +0100
X-Message-Number: 4

Hello List

I wonder if anyone can help me solve a family puzzle.

My grandfather was born in Hungary in 1868 (according to his age on marriage
certificate) or 1863 (according to his age on death certificate) and died in
London in 1928.

His will names him as Martin Hirsh Heller, with brothers Bela and Samuel
then living in Hungary (1928). He had had a sister, Jennie, and her
widower, Adolf Schaechter, living in London, was mentioned in the will.

His civil marriage certificate (London 1904) names him Carl Martin Heller,
son of
Carl Martin Ferdinand Heller, deceased.

The birth certificate of his eldest son (Phillip Ferdinand Heller, born
Stourbridge, UK, 1905) names him Martin
Carl Philip Ferdinand Heller.

He went on to have two other sons, Andor and Samuel, but I have not been
able to trace their births yet and I suspect that they may have been born in
Hungary. His daughter, my mother, was born in Hungary (Arad) in 1911.

I would like to try to trace his birth and the rest of his family but I do
not know which of these names are likely to be his birth names! I also do
not know which part of Greater Hungary he and/or his family came from.

Any advice would be gratefully received.

Pamela
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Search for the book *By Grace Alone* #hungary

meretz
 

Thanks to Robert Neu for guiding me to the site of Bookshare.org
http://www.bookshare.org/web/BooksByAuthor.html?author_id=5279 . I am aware
of that site and they indeed have this book in their on line library.
However, to be able to download a book through Bookshare.org, provided you
are a US resident, you have to prove print reading disability and pay $25 to
sign up and a $50 annual subscription.
Fortunately, print reading disability does not apply to me.
Uri Meretz, Israel

Moderator: Please contact Uri off-list with suggestions and offers of assistance.


Hungary SIG #Hungary *re: A puzzle - searching for Martin Heller and family #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Dear Pamela,

Of course you have *one clue*, which is that your mother was born in Arad. Arad is now in Romania, but belonged to Hungary and was located in Transylvania. Try searching beginning >from there.

Another clue is the "long" name your grandfather carried. This is a long shot, but he could have noble ascendency. Only nobles used several given names, certainly it must have been very rare for Jews to carry four given names (Martin Carl Philip Ferdinand). All of these names are non-Jewish and specially Carl and Philip were common among German-Austrian nobility. Being a noble brings some research advantages, since there are special registers for Hungarian-Austrian noblemen.

BTW, usually one has to search using place names and not family names. Vital records are classified and stored according to the town where the registration was conducted.

Good luck
Tom

At 01:00 -0500 22.10.2005, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: A puzzle - searching for Martin Heller and family
From: "Pamela Furmidge" <pamela.furmidge@proverba.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:36:22 +0100
X-Message-Number: 4

Hello List

I wonder if anyone can help me solve a family puzzle.

My grandfather was born in Hungary in 1868 (according to his age on marriage
certificate) or 1863 (according to his age on death certificate) and died in
London in 1928.

His will names him as Martin Hirsh Heller, with brothers Bela and Samuel
then living in Hungary (1928). He had had a sister, Jennie, and her
widower, Adolf Schaechter, living in London, was mentioned in the will.

His civil marriage certificate (London 1904) names him Carl Martin Heller,
son of
Carl Martin Ferdinand Heller, deceased.

The birth certificate of his eldest son (Phillip Ferdinand Heller, born
Stourbridge, UK, 1905) names him Martin
Carl Philip Ferdinand Heller.

He went on to have two other sons, Andor and Samuel, but I have not been
able to trace their births yet and I suspect that they may have been born in
Hungary. His daughter, my mother, was born in Hungary (Arad) in 1911.

I would like to try to trace his birth and the rest of his family but I do
not know which of these names are likely to be his birth names! I also do
not know which part of Greater Hungary he and/or his family came from.

Any advice would be gratefully received.

Pamela
--
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Re: Ersekjuvar's Film #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Hi,
As they say be thankful for small blessings. I don't
know how you found the film, as the FHL Catalog is
deficient (in my opinion) for that search.

1. The film is part of the over 600 films that the FHL
has for the Hungarian 1869 Census.

Normally you should be able to get the reference by
searching the catalog at "familysearch.org" and doing
a "Place Search."

At the present time such a search will come back
negative.

The only way you can get it is by doing a "Key Word"
search with either "Hungary 1869 Census" or just
"Ersekujvar." Then you will have to page down until it
appears (on the eighth page down display.)

IT REALLY MEANS THAT YOU HAVE TO KNOW IT'S THERE
BEFORE YOU SEARCH.

Actually "Ersekujvar, Nyitra, Hungary" is now "Nove
Zamky, Nitra, Slovakia."

So you should also be able to find it by doing a place
search for "Nove Zamky". Unfortunately all you will
get is a reference to a film 1454387 about some
military vital statistics for that town and it will
erroneously tell you that Nove Zamky is in the Czech
Republic.

Hopefully it will get corrected.

2. As to Births, Marriages, Deaths for Ersekujvar/Nove
Zamky they are not available (hopefully yet) >from the
FHL. They either have not yet been filmed, can't be or
not yet catalogued.

As they say in French : "Bonne Chance et Patience"

Robert Neu

P.S. I also have family >from that town.

--- Dominique Lang <dominique.lang2@libertysurf.fr>
wrote:

Hello,
I have certainly found my family thanks to the 1869
census on JewishGen. It is
located in a town called "Ersekujvar" in the county
of Nyitra. The LDS Film
is 2150660#1 (item 1).
I have two questions:
1) why in the LDS site the film 2150660 hasn't a
description of his subject
and appears very difficult to locate? Perhaps the
site in not complete.
2) How can I found the number of the film with a
birth act in Ersekujvar for
1864

Thanks for your ideas.
Dominique Lang (France)

Moderator: It is not clear >from your message
whether you have looked at the microfilm of the 1869
Census or just the entry in the FHL catalog. The
All-Hungary Database lists more than 1200 names that
appear in the 1869 Census >from Ersekujvar. The AHD
is an index that is not intended to list all of the
information available in the original source.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Ersekjuvar's Film #hungary

Robert Neu
 

Hi,
As they say be thankful for small blessings. I don't
know how you found the film, as the FHL Catalog is
deficient (in my opinion) for that search.

1. The film is part of the over 600 films that the FHL
has for the Hungarian 1869 Census.

Normally you should be able to get the reference by
searching the catalog at "familysearch.org" and doing
a "Place Search."

At the present time such a search will come back
negative.

The only way you can get it is by doing a "Key Word"
search with either "Hungary 1869 Census" or just
"Ersekujvar." Then you will have to page down until it
appears (on the eighth page down display.)

IT REALLY MEANS THAT YOU HAVE TO KNOW IT'S THERE
BEFORE YOU SEARCH.

Actually "Ersekujvar, Nyitra, Hungary" is now "Nove
Zamky, Nitra, Slovakia."

So you should also be able to find it by doing a place
search for "Nove Zamky". Unfortunately all you will
get is a reference to a film 1454387 about some
military vital statistics for that town and it will
erroneously tell you that Nove Zamky is in the Czech
Republic.

Hopefully it will get corrected.

2. As to Births, Marriages, Deaths for Ersekujvar/Nove
Zamky they are not available (hopefully yet) >from the
FHL. They either have not yet been filmed, can't be or
not yet catalogued.

As they say in French : "Bonne Chance et Patience"

Robert Neu

P.S. I also have family >from that town.

--- Dominique Lang <dominique.lang2@libertysurf.fr>
wrote:

Hello,
I have certainly found my family thanks to the 1869
census on JewishGen. It is
located in a town called "Ersekujvar" in the county
of Nyitra. The LDS Film
is 2150660#1 (item 1).
I have two questions:
1) why in the LDS site the film 2150660 hasn't a
description of his subject
and appears very difficult to locate? Perhaps the
site in not complete.
2) How can I found the number of the film with a
birth act in Ersekujvar for
1864

Thanks for your ideas.
Dominique Lang (France)

Moderator: It is not clear >from your message
whether you have looked at the microfilm of the 1869
Census or just the entry in the FHL catalog. The
All-Hungary Database lists more than 1200 names that
appear in the 1869 Census >from Ersekujvar. The AHD
is an index that is not intended to list all of the
information available in the original source.


Bullawayo in Rhodesia , Johannisberg, Congo Belgic- 1900 -1920 // STEINBERG #southafrica

along@...
 

The steinberg family emigrated to ERETS YSRAEL in the second half of the
19 century. They came >from Suchowola - Poland (Russia).
In 1900 (or about), the men - in order to earn money (after they lost
all the money in Palestine-Israel) - left the families in Jerusalem and
Moza (a new agricultural settlement near Jerusalem), and moved to South
Africa.
The names are Michel (Yechiel-Michael), Shlomo, Yerachmiel -
Shteinberg / Steinberg.
In the Boer War they were in Transvaal - running a bakery for the Boers.
They were very modest and did not touch the left flour of the Boers (the
loosers). The British were impressed >from their behavior and asked them
to continue to run the bakery and to supply them bread.
Yerachmiel was very religious man and worked hard all the week in order
to be free in Shabbat. He was very popular among the Jews in all the
communities he lived - and became a religious leader.
Shlomo left S.A. back to ERETS YSRAEL in 1902.

After the Boer War Michel went to Johannisberg and owned carpentry.
Yerahmiel went to Bullawayo in Rhodesia where he had heard that he could
run a bakery and keep shabbat. He got Avraham Sheri to work the bakery
and he - Yerahmiel - returned to settle in Motza .(1902/1903)

The brothers had a sister who visited them when she was 18-19 years old;
Tsilla went down to South Africa in 1902, after her brother Shlomo died.
She was a very attractive woman and wore a wonderful ostrich feather in
her hat. She even visited in the Victoria Falls.

In the time of WWR I Michel and Yerachmiel were forced to leave
Palestine [Because they had British passports (>from their staying in
S.A.) and the Turkishes suspected all the forginers].
As far as I know they moved to S.A. and to Congo Belgic. - I have no
more facts.

Zvi (son of Michel came to S.A. >from Jerusalem with his wife Lea
(daughter Of Shlomo). Sarah the Baby was born in Germistown, a town
where all the railroads junction. Zvi was a book-keeper (accountant).
Sarah was born in 1914, Shlomo in 1917. There was also another brother,
Izzy, who died.

****

REQUESTS:-
I need any information about this family in the years 1900 - 1917.
Probably something was written in S.A. or Rhodesia or maybe someone
have more facts and stories.

Thank you very much

Alon Ginzberg
(Yerachmiel grand grandchild)
ISRAEL
Along@yit.co.il


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Bullawayo in Rhodesia , Johannisberg, Congo Belgic- 1900 -1920 // STEINBERG #southafrica

along@...
 

The steinberg family emigrated to ERETS YSRAEL in the second half of the
19 century. They came >from Suchowola - Poland (Russia).
In 1900 (or about), the men - in order to earn money (after they lost
all the money in Palestine-Israel) - left the families in Jerusalem and
Moza (a new agricultural settlement near Jerusalem), and moved to South
Africa.
The names are Michel (Yechiel-Michael), Shlomo, Yerachmiel -
Shteinberg / Steinberg.
In the Boer War they were in Transvaal - running a bakery for the Boers.
They were very modest and did not touch the left flour of the Boers (the
loosers). The British were impressed >from their behavior and asked them
to continue to run the bakery and to supply them bread.
Yerachmiel was very religious man and worked hard all the week in order
to be free in Shabbat. He was very popular among the Jews in all the
communities he lived - and became a religious leader.
Shlomo left S.A. back to ERETS YSRAEL in 1902.

After the Boer War Michel went to Johannisberg and owned carpentry.
Yerahmiel went to Bullawayo in Rhodesia where he had heard that he could
run a bakery and keep shabbat. He got Avraham Sheri to work the bakery
and he - Yerahmiel - returned to settle in Motza .(1902/1903)

The brothers had a sister who visited them when she was 18-19 years old;
Tsilla went down to South Africa in 1902, after her brother Shlomo died.
She was a very attractive woman and wore a wonderful ostrich feather in
her hat. She even visited in the Victoria Falls.

In the time of WWR I Michel and Yerachmiel were forced to leave
Palestine [Because they had British passports (>from their staying in
S.A.) and the Turkishes suspected all the forginers].
As far as I know they moved to S.A. and to Congo Belgic. - I have no
more facts.

Zvi (son of Michel came to S.A. >from Jerusalem with his wife Lea
(daughter Of Shlomo). Sarah the Baby was born in Germistown, a town
where all the railroads junction. Zvi was a book-keeper (accountant).
Sarah was born in 1914, Shlomo in 1917. There was also another brother,
Izzy, who died.

****

REQUESTS:-
I need any information about this family in the years 1900 - 1917.
Probably something was written in S.A. or Rhodesia or maybe someone
have more facts and stories.

Thank you very much

Alon Ginzberg
(Yerachmiel grand grandchild)
ISRAEL
Along@yit.co.il


HENRY JAMI (YAMEY) and Worcester #southafrica

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

My grand uncle Heinrich (Henry)JAMI (or YAMEY) was
murdered in his home town of Worcester (Cape Province)
in 1954 or 1955. I would be very pleased to know where
he is buried, and also any more information about his
unfortunate end. [His brother Issie was buried at
Ceres, and his gravestone can be seen on
<http://www.lando.co.za/ceresmuseum/graves_2.htm>.]

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica HENRY JAMI (YAMEY) and Worcester #southafrica

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

My grand uncle Heinrich (Henry)JAMI (or YAMEY) was
murdered in his home town of Worcester (Cape Province)
in 1954 or 1955. I would be very pleased to know where
he is buried, and also any more information about his
unfortunate end. [His brother Issie was buried at
Ceres, and his gravestone can be seen on
<http://www.lando.co.za/ceresmuseum/graves_2.htm>.]

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


Fw: Southern African Research names #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

I found the underneath site whilst "surfing the web"
which is very interesting.

People have sent in names and e-mail addresses
as well as giving their places of Genealogy interest
which has been added to this site in Alphabetical
Order.

If you are interested then open up:

http://home.global.co.za/~mercon/surnames.htm

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Fw: Southern African Research names #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

I found the underneath site whilst "surfing the web"
which is very interesting.

People have sent in names and e-mail addresses
as well as giving their places of Genealogy interest
which has been added to this site in Alphabetical
Order.

If you are interested then open up:

http://home.global.co.za/~mercon/surnames.htm

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


Property Records in Warsaw and Elsewhere #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

The best way to start is to check the Polish Business Directories
(The 1929 is on the JRI-Poland website www.jri-poland.org).
If the business was listed you will find the address and you may take
it >from there.

Good Luck
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


JRI Poland #Poland Property Records in Warsaw and Elsewhere #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

The best way to start is to check the Polish Business Directories
(The 1929 is on the JRI-Poland website www.jri-poland.org).
If the business was listed you will find the address and you may take
it >from there.

Good Luck
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem