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Handwriting ID (NYC 1910s) #general

Israel P
 

Can anyone identify the name of the mother of the three sisters whose 1910s NYC
marriage certificates appear at http://www.pikholz.org/MothersName.html ? Two of them
are obviously Gittel (in fact all three have daughters named Gittel), but the third
is not clear at all. The two with Gittel have different surnames, but this could be
the surnames of Gittel's two parents.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Handwriting ID (NYC 1910s) #general

Israel P
 

Can anyone identify the name of the mother of the three sisters whose 1910s NYC
marriage certificates appear at http://www.pikholz.org/MothersName.html ? Two of them
are obviously Gittel (in fact all three have daughters named Gittel), but the third
is not clear at all. The two with Gittel have different surnames, but this could be
the surnames of Gittel's two parents.

Israel Pickholtz


Searching for Hadassah STERN #general

bbaum
 

I am trying to locate Hadassah STERN. She lived in Germany (Frankfurt
am Main) prior to WW II and then relocated to Tel Aviv in the 1940s.

Hadassah was a close friend of Heine REINHOLD and had written many
lovely letters to him in their youth. I would love to speak with her.

Thank you..

Eva Berlin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Hadassah STERN #general

bbaum
 

I am trying to locate Hadassah STERN. She lived in Germany (Frankfurt
am Main) prior to WW II and then relocated to Tel Aviv in the 1940s.

Hadassah was a close friend of Heine REINHOLD and had written many
lovely letters to him in their youth. I would love to speak with her.

Thank you..

Eva Berlin


Norwich (UK) #general

MBernet@...
 

christophermoncrieff@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

<< Is anyone able to provide information about a possible Jewish community
in Norwich? >>

The Jewish community is first recorded in 1144, when Jews were accused of killing
a Christian child. This was the first recorded instance in Europe of the "blood
libel." Norwich had a fairly prosperous and prominent Jewish community after the
Norman conquest, frequently persecuted by local barons, churchmen and mobs. It was
dissolved with the expulsion of Jews >from England in 1290.

Jews again settled in Norwich in the mid-18th century. The Jewis population
has varied between 150 and 200 souls over the past 100 years.

In general, you can get this kind of information by searching for "Norwich, Jews"
with a search engine. Wikipedia is often the source of information that heads the
list

Michael Bernet


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Norwich (UK) #general

MBernet@...
 

christophermoncrieff@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

<< Is anyone able to provide information about a possible Jewish community
in Norwich? >>

The Jewish community is first recorded in 1144, when Jews were accused of killing
a Christian child. This was the first recorded instance in Europe of the "blood
libel." Norwich had a fairly prosperous and prominent Jewish community after the
Norman conquest, frequently persecuted by local barons, churchmen and mobs. It was
dissolved with the expulsion of Jews >from England in 1290.

Jews again settled in Norwich in the mid-18th century. The Jewis population
has varied between 150 and 200 souls over the past 100 years.

In general, you can get this kind of information by searching for "Norwich, Jews"
with a search engine. Wikipedia is often the source of information that heads the
list

Michael Bernet


FW: Russian translation needed for back of old photograph #general

Eric Svirskis
 

Dear Lisa,

Although you have asked for a private reply I think this is a topic of interest to
a number of people that have not used it.

For items like this JG offer ViewMate where you scan the item into the system and
post the link in your message. I believe it is easy to do although I've never done
it myself. Many have as you will see when you look at the site.

The link is http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate. Good luck.

Eric Svirskis, Melbourne, Australia.
svire@melbpc.org.au

Interested in: FLEXER, GANTOVNIK, GROSBEIN, OKUN, MUSZKATBLAT, SRAGOWITZ,
SVIRSKI, SVIRSKIS or SWIRSKY, & ZILBERMAN (>from Kovno/Kaunas,
Panevesz/Panecevysz, or Widze/Vidzy).

|-----Original Message-----
|From: Redball62@aol.com
|Is there someone who is willing to translate some Russian writing on the
back of an old photo? I'd love to know who it is. Please respond privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FW: Russian translation needed for back of old photograph #general

Eric Svirskis
 

Dear Lisa,

Although you have asked for a private reply I think this is a topic of interest to
a number of people that have not used it.

For items like this JG offer ViewMate where you scan the item into the system and
post the link in your message. I believe it is easy to do although I've never done
it myself. Many have as you will see when you look at the site.

The link is http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate. Good luck.

Eric Svirskis, Melbourne, Australia.
svire@melbpc.org.au

Interested in: FLEXER, GANTOVNIK, GROSBEIN, OKUN, MUSZKATBLAT, SRAGOWITZ,
SVIRSKI, SVIRSKIS or SWIRSKY, & ZILBERMAN (>from Kovno/Kaunas,
Panevesz/Panecevysz, or Widze/Vidzy).

|-----Original Message-----
|From: Redball62@aol.com
|Is there someone who is willing to translate some Russian writing on the
back of an old photo? I'd love to know who it is. Please respond privately.


Re: a must-see movie about Jewish life in the Ukraine? #ukraine

Nina Kossman <nina@...>
 

Avishalom (Avi) Klammer writes, in part:
I'd also take this opportunity to recommend to all the
masterpiece must-see (feature) movie: Everything is
Illuminated (which very much tells what jewish life in
the Ukraine is/was-to a point of my feeling an
incredibly intense connection to it-a connection that
I believe reflects how life in the Ukraine, used to be
for my grandmother, whom sadly, I know very little
about... A must-see/must-not-miss (not recent) movie,
available on DVD (Netflix, etc...).

While I appreciate the recommendation, to see "Everything is Illuminated", I
have to politely disagree with the opinion of the recommender about this
"must-see" movie. Neither the book nor the movie accurately "reflect
what Jewish life in the Ukraine is/was." For those of us who lived in the
former Soviet Union or studied the period the author's blatant mistakes are
obvious. "Everything is Illuminated" appeals to an American's fantasy of
Jewish life in the "old country" but unfortunately it's all made up; the
author even got the date of the German invasion wrong (and repeats this
mistake several times). Also, >from the main character's mangled English, it
is obvious that the author knows neither Ukrainian nor Russian grammar which
could have helped him to create plausible mistakes in his narrator's
English. Foer's 18th century characters use makeup and drink iced tea (!);
his Soviet-era characters experience / reflect none of the cataclysms of
that time (e.g. Communism, the great famine, collectivization, mass roundups
/ executions in the years which preceded the German invasion, etc). If you
want to read a more truthful story about "how life was" for Jews in the
Ukraine, and how it was destroyed, I recommend Anatoly Rybakov's excellent
novel "Heavy Sand." Rybakov was born near the time and place he describes
and knows what he is talking about--he's a great writer. "A Scrap of Time"
and "Journey" by Ida Fink are great works of art as well as eyewitness
accounts of the Holocaust on territory of Poland/Ukraine. There is also "The
Lone Survivor" by Michael Diment, a diary of the author's survival in a
small-town Ukrainian ghetto. And don't miss "Babii Yar" by Anatolii
Kuznetzov: the author lived right near the place, and his "document in the
form of a novel" is testimony to what he saw and heard. An account of the
destruction of the Lithuanian Jews can be found in "Kaddish for Kovno: Life
and Death in a Lithuanian Ghetto 1941-1945" by William W. Mishell. (Mishell
is a survivor of the Kovno ghetto). I can recommend more books for those who
are interested. These authors recount their own harrowing experience; as
Foer lacks this experience, he fills in the blank spots with his narrators'
sexual exploits and quirky diction, which wears off after some twenty pages.
Holocaust does not need to be made entertaining or clever; it is shocking
enough when told plainly. Remember Primo Levy on writing about the
Holocaust. As for books on pre-Holocaust Jewish life in the Ukraine, there
are of course Isaak Babel, Isaak Singer, and Sholom Aleichem.

Nina Kossman


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: a must-see movie about Jewish life in the Ukraine? #ukraine

Nina Kossman <nina@...>
 

Avishalom (Avi) Klammer writes, in part:
I'd also take this opportunity to recommend to all the
masterpiece must-see (feature) movie: Everything is
Illuminated (which very much tells what jewish life in
the Ukraine is/was-to a point of my feeling an
incredibly intense connection to it-a connection that
I believe reflects how life in the Ukraine, used to be
for my grandmother, whom sadly, I know very little
about... A must-see/must-not-miss (not recent) movie,
available on DVD (Netflix, etc...).

While I appreciate the recommendation, to see "Everything is Illuminated", I
have to politely disagree with the opinion of the recommender about this
"must-see" movie. Neither the book nor the movie accurately "reflect
what Jewish life in the Ukraine is/was." For those of us who lived in the
former Soviet Union or studied the period the author's blatant mistakes are
obvious. "Everything is Illuminated" appeals to an American's fantasy of
Jewish life in the "old country" but unfortunately it's all made up; the
author even got the date of the German invasion wrong (and repeats this
mistake several times). Also, >from the main character's mangled English, it
is obvious that the author knows neither Ukrainian nor Russian grammar which
could have helped him to create plausible mistakes in his narrator's
English. Foer's 18th century characters use makeup and drink iced tea (!);
his Soviet-era characters experience / reflect none of the cataclysms of
that time (e.g. Communism, the great famine, collectivization, mass roundups
/ executions in the years which preceded the German invasion, etc). If you
want to read a more truthful story about "how life was" for Jews in the
Ukraine, and how it was destroyed, I recommend Anatoly Rybakov's excellent
novel "Heavy Sand." Rybakov was born near the time and place he describes
and knows what he is talking about--he's a great writer. "A Scrap of Time"
and "Journey" by Ida Fink are great works of art as well as eyewitness
accounts of the Holocaust on territory of Poland/Ukraine. There is also "The
Lone Survivor" by Michael Diment, a diary of the author's survival in a
small-town Ukrainian ghetto. And don't miss "Babii Yar" by Anatolii
Kuznetzov: the author lived right near the place, and his "document in the
form of a novel" is testimony to what he saw and heard. An account of the
destruction of the Lithuanian Jews can be found in "Kaddish for Kovno: Life
and Death in a Lithuanian Ghetto 1941-1945" by William W. Mishell. (Mishell
is a survivor of the Kovno ghetto). I can recommend more books for those who
are interested. These authors recount their own harrowing experience; as
Foer lacks this experience, he fills in the blank spots with his narrators'
sexual exploits and quirky diction, which wears off after some twenty pages.
Holocaust does not need to be made entertaining or clever; it is shocking
enough when told plainly. Remember Primo Levy on writing about the
Holocaust. As for books on pre-Holocaust Jewish life in the Ukraine, there
are of course Isaak Babel, Isaak Singer, and Sholom Aleichem.

Nina Kossman


Sara Wajstaub['s relative search. #poland

Joseph Fibel <jfibel@...>
 

Fellow researchers,

As have many of the enormously knowledgeable members of this group I have
been doing research on my and my wife's families for many years. I
have charts that cannot be pinned up anywhere because there is no wall long
enough to carry them.

I have used resources all over the U S and the world. But the most
important thing was not the chart but the knowledge that the search brought
to me and our families. I beseech our mayvens not to do the search for our
new posters but to guide them in the ways to do their own searches so that
they too can have the pleasure of finding what they thought was not
findable. It is terrific to tap into someone else's tree and thereby add
many names to your tree but that does not bring you to your family's
gravestones where unknown information turns up or learning where your family
davened and going there 100 years later. A friend found that her mother's
family is related to the Rokeach family and she therefore added thousands of
names to her tree. There is no way she can even type in all those names.
To find family birth or death or marriage certificates written in Europe in
Polish or Russian and getting them translated are thrills unimagined. When
you invest in your search by buying a book on Russian, Polish or just plain
Jewish names or locating your previously unknown shtetlach or reading a
Yizkor Book of your shtetl, you have made a huge investment in your own and
your families' history.

Joe Fibel


JRI Poland #Poland Sara Wajstaub['s relative search. #poland

Joseph Fibel <jfibel@...>
 

Fellow researchers,

As have many of the enormously knowledgeable members of this group I have
been doing research on my and my wife's families for many years. I
have charts that cannot be pinned up anywhere because there is no wall long
enough to carry them.

I have used resources all over the U S and the world. But the most
important thing was not the chart but the knowledge that the search brought
to me and our families. I beseech our mayvens not to do the search for our
new posters but to guide them in the ways to do their own searches so that
they too can have the pleasure of finding what they thought was not
findable. It is terrific to tap into someone else's tree and thereby add
many names to your tree but that does not bring you to your family's
gravestones where unknown information turns up or learning where your family
davened and going there 100 years later. A friend found that her mother's
family is related to the Rokeach family and she therefore added thousands of
names to her tree. There is no way she can even type in all those names.
To find family birth or death or marriage certificates written in Europe in
Polish or Russian and getting them translated are thrills unimagined. When
you invest in your search by buying a book on Russian, Polish or just plain
Jewish names or locating your previously unknown shtetlach or reading a
Yizkor Book of your shtetl, you have made a huge investment in your own and
your families' history.

Joe Fibel


Pruskin/Breskin update #poland

MandJMeyers <mandjmeyers@...>
 

I have a little more information after visiting the Brestovitser section
of Mt. Carmel cemetery.

My great-grandmother Rachel (nee Prushkin) Meyers's stone said that her
Hebrew name was Ruchel bat Yehuda (this part was known) h'cohan (not
previously known). So, that could narrow the search down a bit to cohanim
named Pruskin/Breskin >from around Brestovitsa/Amdur/Bialystok/Grodno/Krynki
(lots of border issues here of course).

Also, on my grandfather's marriage certificate, his mother was listed as
Rachel Prushkin. On another child's marriage certificate, she mother was
listed as Rachel Fineman, and on yet a third child's marriage, she was
listed as Rachel Freeman.

Seems like various parts of the Prushkin family may have taken on
various Americanizations of their surname.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
<meyers01@comcast.net>

Marty Meyers
Montclair, NJ

researching:
ZYLBERMAN/BORDOWICZ/ALLENSZTEJN/BRZYSKIER >from Przasnysz/Ciechanow area
MEYEROWITZ/PRUSHKIN >from Brestovitsa area
SIDMAN/KIRZNER >from Slawuta area
LANDSMAN/FINBERG >from Vilna area


JRI Poland #Poland Pruskin/Breskin update #poland

MandJMeyers <mandjmeyers@...>
 

I have a little more information after visiting the Brestovitser section
of Mt. Carmel cemetery.

My great-grandmother Rachel (nee Prushkin) Meyers's stone said that her
Hebrew name was Ruchel bat Yehuda (this part was known) h'cohan (not
previously known). So, that could narrow the search down a bit to cohanim
named Pruskin/Breskin >from around Brestovitsa/Amdur/Bialystok/Grodno/Krynki
(lots of border issues here of course).

Also, on my grandfather's marriage certificate, his mother was listed as
Rachel Prushkin. On another child's marriage certificate, she mother was
listed as Rachel Fineman, and on yet a third child's marriage, she was
listed as Rachel Freeman.

Seems like various parts of the Prushkin family may have taken on
various Americanizations of their surname.

If this sounds familiar, please contact me privately at
<meyers01@comcast.net>

Marty Meyers
Montclair, NJ

researching:
ZYLBERMAN/BORDOWICZ/ALLENSZTEJN/BRZYSKIER >from Przasnysz/Ciechanow area
MEYEROWITZ/PRUSHKIN >from Brestovitsa area
SIDMAN/KIRZNER >from Slawuta area
LANDSMAN/FINBERG >from Vilna area


wajsenberg #poland

mark
 

I am searching Wajsenberg >from Zelechow, Warsaw. Brandwajn, Krifke >from
Ostrog, Zdolbunow.I am posting this already for 5 years. Tried a lot of
methods, never got answer.

Wajsenberg Mark.
Israel
mark306@bezeqint.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods and resources may be shared with
the list.


Sending money to Poland #poland

JASON GREEN <koldjg@...>
 

Hi,
I've been in contact with the archives in Lodz and
they have agreed to send me some certificates for 86
zloty, but my bank wants to charge me £18 in transfer
fees! Does anyone have any other way of sending money
to Poland cheaply?



Many Thanks
Jason Green
London, U.K.

Many Thanks
Jason Green


JRI Poland #Poland wajsenberg #poland

mark
 

I am searching Wajsenberg >from Zelechow, Warsaw. Brandwajn, Krifke >from
Ostrog, Zdolbunow.I am posting this already for 5 years. Tried a lot of
methods, never got answer.

Wajsenberg Mark.
Israel
mark306@bezeqint.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods and resources may be shared with
the list.


JRI Poland #Poland Sending money to Poland #poland

JASON GREEN <koldjg@...>
 

Hi,
I've been in contact with the archives in Lodz and
they have agreed to send me some certificates for 86
zloty, but my bank wants to charge me £18 in transfer
fees! Does anyone have any other way of sending money
to Poland cheaply?



Many Thanks
Jason Green
London, U.K.

Many Thanks
Jason Green


Re: Records from Zniesienie #galicia

Mark Halpern <willie46@...>
 

Errol:

The record you want to acquire is the Jewish civil marriage of your
great grandparents. This is a separate marriage ceremony performed by
a Rabbi employed by the Austrian Government to register Jewish civil
marriages. This is, in effect, a second religious ceremony usually
perfomed years after the original "religious" ceremony. The 1902 marriage
was not an official record of the 1886 marriage, but a second marriage
ceremony that was recognized by the Austrian Government.

You can order this record directly >from the AGAD Archive by writing to
them at <sekretariat@agad.gov.pl> in English providing all the information
you have about the marriage including year, book and page number and ask
for a full cost quote and the method of payment. AGAD will likely respond
in a week or two in English (other Archives usually respond in Polish).
AGAD will request payment by bank (wire) transfer, which will cost US
residents >from $25 to $50 depending on your bank.

If you would like to reduce the unit cost of these bank fees, you should
order more records or find others interested in ordering recrords >from
AGAD and combine orders.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland AGAD Archive Coordinator

-------------- Original message ----------------------
I would like to acquire the record of the marriage of my Great Grandparents
that took place in 1902. This was the official record of a religious
marriage that took place prior to 1886.
I have the book and page number, and date.
I searched the RTR web site and found that the marriage records for that
year and town are in the AGAD archive in Warszawa, but could not find how
to go about ordering the document.
Can anyone tell me how I go about ordering this record? What are the fees
and how I go about paying for it?
Thanks

Errol Schneegurt NY
ESLVIV@AOL.COM


Help with recognition and translation #poland

McCurdie
 

Dear Fellow researchers

Can anyone help me with the identification of the woman in the photograph
loaded on viewmate 10277 and translation of the back of the photograph on
viewmate 10278.

If this woman is a member of my family she would most likely have come from
Minsk, Stolpce (Steibtz), Bobruisk, Warsaw or Dwinsk. I believe though that
the writing on the back may be in Russian.

They can be accessed directly at.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10277
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10278

I am researching MILCENZON, SAGALOWICH, GORFINKEL, Bobruisk, Stolpce, KREIN,
KRELL Daugavpils (Dwinsk), ROUBINE, RUBIN, Warsaw

I would appreciate any help you could give me.

Please respond privately.

Thank you
Melissa McCurdie
Sydney
Australia