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Sip utca 13 #hungary

Beth Long
 

Yesterday I was at the Budapest Jewish Community office at Sip utca, and had an
interesting meeting with someone whose job is interfacing with with international
Jewish community on matters having to do with Hungary.

I shared with him a few experiences I have had while trying to obtain information
at Sip utca, and I few ideas I had for perhaps making the place a little more
"user-friendly".

He gave me his contact information so that the rest of you can share any experiences
you have had there (whether positive or negative), and any suggestions you might
have.

My own suggestion was to take the (already computerized) database of Budapest
Jewish records, and put it online so that people could do their own research
(rather than having to rely on the two ladies in the office to do it for them).

His name is Tamas Desi, and his e-mail is foreign@mazsihisz.com.

Best Wishes to All,

Beth Long
Budapest
Hungary SIG #Hungary Sip utca 13 #hungary

Beth Long
 

Yesterday I was at the Budapest Jewish Community office at Sip utca, and had an
interesting meeting with someone whose job is interfacing with with international
Jewish community on matters having to do with Hungary.

I shared with him a few experiences I have had while trying to obtain information
at Sip utca, and I few ideas I had for perhaps making the place a little more
"user-friendly".

He gave me his contact information so that the rest of you can share any experiences
you have had there (whether positive or negative), and any suggestions you might
have.

My own suggestion was to take the (already computerized) database of Budapest
Jewish records, and put it online so that people could do their own research
(rather than having to rely on the two ladies in the office to do it for them).

His name is Tamas Desi, and his e-mail is foreign@mazsihisz.com.

Best Wishes to All,

Beth Long
Budapest
LDS records on CD #galicia

Jurek Hirschberg <jurek.hirschberg@...>
 

I need to examine the LDS records for Tarnopol that have not been
indexed by the JRI project. Spending time at one of the LDS Family
History Centers is not practical. I wonder if anybody has managed
to obtain those records on a CD and would be interested in sharing
them. Please contact me privately.

Jurek Hirschberg
Stockholm, Sweden
jurek.hirschberg@hirschberg.se

Tarnopol: HIRSCHBERG, GOLIGER, MARGULIES, SPEISER, AWNER
Skalat: BERNSTEIN, ROSENZWEIG, PODHORCER, PERLMUTTER
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia LDS records on CD #galicia

Jurek Hirschberg <jurek.hirschberg@...>
 

I need to examine the LDS records for Tarnopol that have not been
indexed by the JRI project. Spending time at one of the LDS Family
History Centers is not practical. I wonder if anybody has managed
to obtain those records on a CD and would be interested in sharing
them. Please contact me privately.

Jurek Hirschberg
Stockholm, Sweden
jurek.hirschberg@hirschberg.se

Tarnopol: HIRSCHBERG, GOLIGER, MARGULIES, SPEISER, AWNER
Skalat: BERNSTEIN, ROSENZWEIG, PODHORCER, PERLMUTTER
Rozwadow landsmanschaft in Montefiore Cemetery, St. Albans #galicia

Sandy Berger
 

Is anyone going to the Montefiore Cemetery (aka Spingfield Long
Island Cemetery) in St. Albans, NY? I recently discovered that my
great-grandmother and uncle is buried there and would love to
get a photo of the tombstones to see if there is any helpful info on
them? I have the names and grave plot #.

I appreciate the assistance.

Sandy Berger
Brick, NJ

researching KORN - Rozwadow
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Rozwadow landsmanschaft in Montefiore Cemetery, St. Albans #galicia

Sandy Berger
 

Is anyone going to the Montefiore Cemetery (aka Spingfield Long
Island Cemetery) in St. Albans, NY? I recently discovered that my
great-grandmother and uncle is buried there and would love to
get a photo of the tombstones to see if there is any helpful info on
them? I have the names and grave plot #.

I appreciate the assistance.

Sandy Berger
Brick, NJ

researching KORN - Rozwadow
Thanks to Viewmate Webmasters #general

Beth Galleto
 

When I first started looking at Viewmate, the generous viewers who
wanted to help would send their responses directly to the person who
posted the letters or photos, and unless they wrote to the JewishGen
list, the answers were not visible to anyone else.

A little while ago the site was changed so that everyone can see the
translations and other contributions, and I would like to express my
appreciation to the Viewmate webmasters for this new feature.
I "visit" Viewmate nearly every day, and I have often wondered if
people received answers, and what they were. Plus, an answer given to
one person may sometimes provide help to another who has a similar photo
or item.

Thank you to all who made this new sharing feature possible.
Beth Galleto
Greenbrae, CA (north of San Francisco)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thanks to Viewmate Webmasters #general

Beth Galleto
 

When I first started looking at Viewmate, the generous viewers who
wanted to help would send their responses directly to the person who
posted the letters or photos, and unless they wrote to the JewishGen
list, the answers were not visible to anyone else.

A little while ago the site was changed so that everyone can see the
translations and other contributions, and I would like to express my
appreciation to the Viewmate webmasters for this new feature.
I "visit" Viewmate nearly every day, and I have often wondered if
people received answers, and what they were. Plus, an answer given to
one person may sometimes provide help to another who has a similar photo
or item.

Thank you to all who made this new sharing feature possible.
Beth Galleto
Greenbrae, CA (north of San Francisco)
Re: Cemetery plots from defunct landsmanschaften #general

Stephan Owen Parnes
 

Jim Gutterman is correct ("in NY defunct societies were "overseen" by NYS
insurance dept liquidation bureau...").

The NY Times ran an article about this aspect of the work of the New York
Liquidation Bureau (NYLB; http://www.nylb.org/) on August 2, 2009:
http://www.nylb.org/Documents/NYT_NYLB-and-Burial-Societies_8-3-09.pdf

Since the B'ne Rezitza Association, Inc., was incorporated in New York
State, the property in New Jersey may very well be administered in New York
State--whether by the NYLB or by some other entity that may have been
arranged when the association began to close out it's affairs. Since the
association's papers are at YIVO, there may be a hint about plans for the
cemetery property in the documents >from the final year.

On September 10, 2009, shortly after the article referenced above appeared
in the New York Times, the New Jersey Cemetery Board
(http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/cemetery/) held a public meeting. The
minutes of that meeting
(http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/cemetery/minutes/cemmin_091009.htm) refer to
the article in Section VII (For Your Information) and indicate that the
problem described in New York is also a serious problem in New Jersey.

Stephan Parnes
Lancaster, PA
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Cemetery plots from defunct landsmanschaften #general

Stephan Owen Parnes
 

Jim Gutterman is correct ("in NY defunct societies were "overseen" by NYS
insurance dept liquidation bureau...").

The NY Times ran an article about this aspect of the work of the New York
Liquidation Bureau (NYLB; http://www.nylb.org/) on August 2, 2009:
http://www.nylb.org/Documents/NYT_NYLB-and-Burial-Societies_8-3-09.pdf

Since the B'ne Rezitza Association, Inc., was incorporated in New York
State, the property in New Jersey may very well be administered in New York
State--whether by the NYLB or by some other entity that may have been
arranged when the association began to close out it's affairs. Since the
association's papers are at YIVO, there may be a hint about plans for the
cemetery property in the documents >from the final year.

On September 10, 2009, shortly after the article referenced above appeared
in the New York Times, the New Jersey Cemetery Board
(http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/cemetery/) held a public meeting. The
minutes of that meeting
(http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/cemetery/minutes/cemmin_091009.htm) refer to
the article in Section VII (For Your Information) and indicate that the
problem described in New York is also a serious problem in New Jersey.

Stephan Parnes
Lancaster, PA
The Katyn Forest Massacre -- 1940 #general

JHI Jewish Genealogy & Family Heritage Center <familyheritage@...>
 

Dear Friends and Colleagues:

Ironically, Saturday morning's air crash in Smolensk, Russia that took the
lives of Poland's President Lech Kaczynski, his wife and 94 others might
have, in a dreadful and tragic manner, succeeded in bringing far greater
attention than might have been expected to the seventieth anniversary of a
previous tragedy -- the wartime massacre by the Soviet NKVD secret police
of over 20,000 members of the Polish officers' corps in the Katyn Forest
and in a number of other locations in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.

Among the officers murdered, approximately 5-8% percent were Jews:
primarily doctors, lawyers and civil servants, as well as Polish Army
Chief Rabbi Baruch Steinberg. Most of the victims' names are known, yet
biographical details are often lacking.

This being the case, the Emanuel Ringelblum Jewish Historical Institute
extends an appeal to the world Jewish genealogical community to share with
us any knowledge -- particularly any photos or documentation -- you might
have of these officers slain in an attempt to prevent any Polish
resistance to Soviet occupation.

If you know of any of these officers or of another Jewish officer of the
Polish armed forces whose wartime fate remains unknown, please contact us:

The Emanuel Ringelblum Jewish Historical Institute
Jewish Genealogy & Family Heritage Center
ul. Tlomackie 3/5
00-090 Warsaw, Poland

telephone: (+48-22) 828-5962

e-mail: <familyheritage@jhi.pl>

Photocopies of such materials would be good, scans even better.

Thank you for helping reclaim another bit of Polish Jewry's memory, as
well as honoring the memory of these fallen soldiers.

Yale J. Reisner
The Emanuel Ringelblum Jewish Historical Institute
Jewish Genealogy & Family Heritage Center
Warsaw, Poland <familyheritage@jhi.pl>

in cooperation with Anna Przybyszewska Drozd of the
Ronald S. Lauder Foundation Genealogy Project, Warsaw
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Katyn Forest Massacre -- 1940 #general

JHI Jewish Genealogy & Family Heritage Center <familyheritage@...>
 

Dear Friends and Colleagues:

Ironically, Saturday morning's air crash in Smolensk, Russia that took the
lives of Poland's President Lech Kaczynski, his wife and 94 others might
have, in a dreadful and tragic manner, succeeded in bringing far greater
attention than might have been expected to the seventieth anniversary of a
previous tragedy -- the wartime massacre by the Soviet NKVD secret police
of over 20,000 members of the Polish officers' corps in the Katyn Forest
and in a number of other locations in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.

Among the officers murdered, approximately 5-8% percent were Jews:
primarily doctors, lawyers and civil servants, as well as Polish Army
Chief Rabbi Baruch Steinberg. Most of the victims' names are known, yet
biographical details are often lacking.

This being the case, the Emanuel Ringelblum Jewish Historical Institute
extends an appeal to the world Jewish genealogical community to share with
us any knowledge -- particularly any photos or documentation -- you might
have of these officers slain in an attempt to prevent any Polish
resistance to Soviet occupation.

If you know of any of these officers or of another Jewish officer of the
Polish armed forces whose wartime fate remains unknown, please contact us:

The Emanuel Ringelblum Jewish Historical Institute
Jewish Genealogy & Family Heritage Center
ul. Tlomackie 3/5
00-090 Warsaw, Poland

telephone: (+48-22) 828-5962

e-mail: <familyheritage@jhi.pl>

Photocopies of such materials would be good, scans even better.

Thank you for helping reclaim another bit of Polish Jewry's memory, as
well as honoring the memory of these fallen soldiers.

Yale J. Reisner
The Emanuel Ringelblum Jewish Historical Institute
Jewish Genealogy & Family Heritage Center
Warsaw, Poland <familyheritage@jhi.pl>

in cooperation with Anna Przybyszewska Drozd of the
Ronald S. Lauder Foundation Genealogy Project, Warsaw
Nadel - requesting help #ukraine

Palekaiko
 

To all those who have responded, I truly appreciate the step-by-step
suggestions which you have offered. Despite my error in assuming I
was looking for the the right person, your responses have given me
much more, ie research tools.

Thanks again.

Michael Diamant
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Nadel - requesting help #ukraine

Palekaiko
 

To all those who have responded, I truly appreciate the step-by-step
suggestions which you have offered. Despite my error in assuming I
was looking for the the right person, your responses have given me
much more, ie research tools.

Thanks again.

Michael Diamant
Re: New Auschwitz list #hungary

tom.vene@...
 

Dear friends and Sarah,

What Sarah wrote is correct and I apologize for not having mentioned this in
my original message. Nevertheless, this information was also published by
Avotaynu (last issue of their newsletter, titled "Another Auschwitz
Database"). Avotaynu is a very reliable source of genealogical data and
issues, so if they also commented this site it is because they found some
merit to mention it to the genealogical community.

The idea is that if this site contains names that haven't been published by
the Auschwitz official site then that list has value for us the researchers.

Furthermore, the *key point* I was trying to make with my message was that
*both lists are important* for those who lost Slovak relatives in Auschwitz
exactly because the Slovakian Jews were the first one to be sent to
Auschwitz and both lists cover the camp's initial period of operation.

If I offended somebody by pointing a revisionist site then I am excusing
myself here.

Regards
Tom

-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: New Auschwitz list
From: SDAFAAO@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:11:07 EDT
X-Message-Number: 1

I'm not sure, Tom, if you read the whole web site that you referred to as a
source of additional names of victims of Auschwitz. As I read the
information on the web site, I realized that it was created by holocaust
deniers

Sarah Appel
Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: New Auschwitz list #hungary

tom.vene@...
 

Dear friends and Sarah,

What Sarah wrote is correct and I apologize for not having mentioned this in
my original message. Nevertheless, this information was also published by
Avotaynu (last issue of their newsletter, titled "Another Auschwitz
Database"). Avotaynu is a very reliable source of genealogical data and
issues, so if they also commented this site it is because they found some
merit to mention it to the genealogical community.

The idea is that if this site contains names that haven't been published by
the Auschwitz official site then that list has value for us the researchers.

Furthermore, the *key point* I was trying to make with my message was that
*both lists are important* for those who lost Slovak relatives in Auschwitz
exactly because the Slovakian Jews were the first one to be sent to
Auschwitz and both lists cover the camp's initial period of operation.

If I offended somebody by pointing a revisionist site then I am excusing
myself here.

Regards
Tom

-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: New Auschwitz list
From: SDAFAAO@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:11:07 EDT
X-Message-Number: 1

I'm not sure, Tom, if you read the whole web site that you referred to as a
source of additional names of victims of Auschwitz. As I read the
information on the web site, I realized that it was created by holocaust
deniers

Sarah Appel
Facebook #hungary

kalman@...
 

Some of you may be interested: I have just realized that since last November, there
is a Hungarian Jewish geneological page on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?filter=nf#!/pages/Hungarian-Jewish-
Roots/185789671121?ref=ts
(or search Hungarian Jewish Roots).

Gyorgy C. Kálmán
Hungary SIG #Hungary Facebook #hungary

kalman@...
 

Some of you may be interested: I have just realized that since last November, there
is a Hungarian Jewish geneological page on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?filter=nf#!/pages/Hungarian-Jewish-
Roots/185789671121?ref=ts
(or search Hungarian Jewish Roots).

Gyorgy C. Kálmán
Looking for JASCHKOWITZ family #poland

Karen Zale
 

Dear All,

I have recently found my Great Grandmother's maiden name was JASCHKOWITZ.
Her first name was Hilda JASCHKOWITZ, b. 1846 - d. 1897 (New York City).
Hilda's parents were Bernhard and Huirietta JASCHKOWITZ.

On the JRI - Poland web site, I found several JASCHKOWITZES.

1. Bytom Marriages 1848 - 74 Prussia / Katowice Province
AVELLIS, Berthold and JASCHKOWITZ, Natalie - father Bernhard JASCHKOWITZ
from Gleiwitz. Natalie's age is 24 making her birthdate 1839 a possible
sister of Huirietta

2. Raciborz Births 1815-47 Prussia / Opole Province
JASCHKOWITZ, Rosalie born 16 Feb 1842 Mother, Henriette - Mothersurn -
LIPSCHUTZ.
Question - does Mothersurn mean mother's maiden name? If so, I do not
think this name is a sister to my Huirietta since further down is another
name that I will get to.

3. Wroclaw PSA BMD 1889 - 1890 Prussia / Wroclaw Province
SILBERMANN, Ernestine died 1897 age 60 years 9 months. Father - Bernhard,
Mother - Henriette, Mothersurn SACHS, Spouse - Moritz, Spousesurn -
JASCHKOWITZ. Does this mean that Ernestine was married to Mortiz
SILBERMANN and her maiden name was JASCHKOWITZ? It would make her
birthdate about 1837, making her another possible sister to Huirietta.
However, if this mother's maiden name is SACHS, I do not think the
previous birth Rosalie JASCHKOWITZ would be a sister.

MOKRAUER, Rosalie, died 1893 at the age of 63 years 6 months. Father -
Bernhard, Mother - Henriette SACHS, Spouse - Bernhard, Spousesurn -
JASCHKOWITZ. It would make her birthdate about 1830 another possible sister.

My Great Grandmother Hilda JASCHKOWITZ married Moritz Ehrenfreund. The city
they lived in before coming to the United States was Tarnow. They had five
children.
Bernhard b. 1869 (My grandfather)
Sigmund b. 1871
Flora b. 1872
Heinrich b. 1875
Regina b. 1879

I have looked in both the Jewishgen JGFT and FTJP and did not see any
connections to my family. If anyone has these names in their family tree,
please get in touch with me. I would also appreciate your ideas if these
people belong in my family.

Best regards,
Karen Zale
Plano, TX

ZALEFSKY/SALEWSKI - Shereshero,Belarus; FINKELSTEIN - Shchedrin, Belarus;
SORKIN - Rogochovi, Belarus; KRAVCHENKO - Niezhin;
GREENBERG (GRUNSTEIN)- near Warsaw; GOLDENBERG - Austria;
KELLERMAN - Austria/Germany; JASCHKOWITZ - Germany;
EHRENFREUND - Tarnow, Galicia;

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
the list.
JRI Poland #Poland Looking for JASCHKOWITZ family #poland

Karen Zale
 

Dear All,

I have recently found my Great Grandmother's maiden name was JASCHKOWITZ.
Her first name was Hilda JASCHKOWITZ, b. 1846 - d. 1897 (New York City).
Hilda's parents were Bernhard and Huirietta JASCHKOWITZ.

On the JRI - Poland web site, I found several JASCHKOWITZES.

1. Bytom Marriages 1848 - 74 Prussia / Katowice Province
AVELLIS, Berthold and JASCHKOWITZ, Natalie - father Bernhard JASCHKOWITZ
from Gleiwitz. Natalie's age is 24 making her birthdate 1839 a possible
sister of Huirietta

2. Raciborz Births 1815-47 Prussia / Opole Province
JASCHKOWITZ, Rosalie born 16 Feb 1842 Mother, Henriette - Mothersurn -
LIPSCHUTZ.
Question - does Mothersurn mean mother's maiden name? If so, I do not
think this name is a sister to my Huirietta since further down is another
name that I will get to.

3. Wroclaw PSA BMD 1889 - 1890 Prussia / Wroclaw Province
SILBERMANN, Ernestine died 1897 age 60 years 9 months. Father - Bernhard,
Mother - Henriette, Mothersurn SACHS, Spouse - Moritz, Spousesurn -
JASCHKOWITZ. Does this mean that Ernestine was married to Mortiz
SILBERMANN and her maiden name was JASCHKOWITZ? It would make her
birthdate about 1837, making her another possible sister to Huirietta.
However, if this mother's maiden name is SACHS, I do not think the
previous birth Rosalie JASCHKOWITZ would be a sister.

MOKRAUER, Rosalie, died 1893 at the age of 63 years 6 months. Father -
Bernhard, Mother - Henriette SACHS, Spouse - Bernhard, Spousesurn -
JASCHKOWITZ. It would make her birthdate about 1830 another possible sister.

My Great Grandmother Hilda JASCHKOWITZ married Moritz Ehrenfreund. The city
they lived in before coming to the United States was Tarnow. They had five
children.
Bernhard b. 1869 (My grandfather)
Sigmund b. 1871
Flora b. 1872
Heinrich b. 1875
Regina b. 1879

I have looked in both the Jewishgen JGFT and FTJP and did not see any
connections to my family. If anyone has these names in their family tree,
please get in touch with me. I would also appreciate your ideas if these
people belong in my family.

Best regards,
Karen Zale
Plano, TX

ZALEFSKY/SALEWSKI - Shereshero,Belarus; FINKELSTEIN - Shchedrin, Belarus;
SORKIN - Rogochovi, Belarus; KRAVCHENKO - Niezhin;
GREENBERG (GRUNSTEIN)- near Warsaw; GOLDENBERG - Austria;
KELLERMAN - Austria/Germany; JASCHKOWITZ - Germany;
EHRENFREUND - Tarnow, Galicia;

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
the list.
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