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Re: jcr-uk digest: September 11, 2005 #unitedkingdom

XXX XXX <chmho@...>
 

There is no problem, according to Jewish Law, with marrying one's deceased
wife's sister. Although this is not true of one's divorced wife's sister.
As indicated in the wording of Leviticus 18:18. An ancestor of mine married
his deceased wife's sister, although he almost certainly did so while still
in Lithuania (c. 1880)

I can't see any reason at all for her widower status to make it
impermissible to marry the person in question.

I had not heard of the issue in English civil law. I Google'd around and
found that the issue had not been clearly addressed until 1835, and there
were instances of respectable people marrying their deceased wives' sister.
In that year, a bill was passed legitimizing all such previous marriages,
but declaring all such further marriages void. This was overturned in 1907.

Michael.

Incidentally, the Biblical precept of a man marrying his brother's
(childless) widow has been discontinued/prohibited for a very long time.


Horatio LUCAS #unitedkingdom

E Wolfers <estelle@...>
 

Dear List,

Thanks to several kind people on the London list, my Horatio J. Lucas has
evolved >from just a name (the father of the Mary Rachel Lucas whom I was
researching) to 'Lucas, Horatio Joseph (1839-1873) artist; exhibited at the
Royal Academy and the Salon, Paris; excelled at the art of etching'
(Dictionary of National Biography). He was the son of Louis Lucas, a
prominent member of the Anglo-Jewish community who was a member of the
Board of Deputies. Does anyone know any more about this family, in
particular where Louis came from? France? The 1841 census has him born in
'Foreign Parts'.

I am posting this to the Jewish Genealogy Society of Great Britain list also.

Estelle Wolfers


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: jcr-uk digest: September 11, 2005 #unitedkingdom

XXX XXX <chmho@...>
 

There is no problem, according to Jewish Law, with marrying one's deceased
wife's sister. Although this is not true of one's divorced wife's sister.
As indicated in the wording of Leviticus 18:18. An ancestor of mine married
his deceased wife's sister, although he almost certainly did so while still
in Lithuania (c. 1880)

I can't see any reason at all for her widower status to make it
impermissible to marry the person in question.

I had not heard of the issue in English civil law. I Google'd around and
found that the issue had not been clearly addressed until 1835, and there
were instances of respectable people marrying their deceased wives' sister.
In that year, a bill was passed legitimizing all such previous marriages,
but declaring all such further marriages void. This was overturned in 1907.

Michael.

Incidentally, the Biblical precept of a man marrying his brother's
(childless) widow has been discontinued/prohibited for a very long time.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Horatio LUCAS #unitedkingdom

E Wolfers <estelle@...>
 

Dear List,

Thanks to several kind people on the London list, my Horatio J. Lucas has
evolved >from just a name (the father of the Mary Rachel Lucas whom I was
researching) to 'Lucas, Horatio Joseph (1839-1873) artist; exhibited at the
Royal Academy and the Salon, Paris; excelled at the art of etching'
(Dictionary of National Biography). He was the son of Louis Lucas, a
prominent member of the Anglo-Jewish community who was a member of the
Board of Deputies. Does anyone know any more about this family, in
particular where Louis came from? France? The 1841 census has him born in
'Foreign Parts'.

I am posting this to the Jewish Genealogy Society of Great Britain list also.

Estelle Wolfers


on behalf of the 2006 conference in NYC #warsaw #poland

Nicole Berline <nberline@...>
 

SUBJECT: NYC 2006 conference Call for Papers

The Jewish Genealogical Society is the host society for the 2006
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies’ annual
conference to be held at the Marriott Marquis here in New York City >from
August 13th to 18th.

We are pleased to announce our Call for Papers. Submissions should be
made at the Conference website at
<http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm>http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm

All abstract submissions must be submitted via our on-line abstract
module process. E-mail submittals will not be accepted.

Presentation categories are listed below:

Computer Training Workshops
Eastern and Central European research
Genetics and DNA Research
Holocaust research
Immigration, naturalization and migration
Methodology
Metropolitan New York City and New York State research
Non-European research (e.g. India, China)
Rabbinical research
Repositories
Sephardic research
Technology and Internet resources
United States research
Yiddish theater/Tin Pan Alley

Just follow the instructions at the website.

The decision to accept a submission will be heavily weighted toward
presentations not given at previous IAJGS Conferences, that provide
specific research methodology and that include specific information for
researchers to replicate the success of the presenter in acquiring
information.

Sessions will be one hour and fifteen minutes, with the last 15 minutes
reserved for questions and answers.

Proposal Deadline – December 1, 2005.

Speakers will be notified no later than February 1, 2006

Handout material/resource material, due March 1, 2006, is required for
each presentation and will be included in the syllabus distributed to
all conference registrants. Further details of the handout material
requirements will be provided upon acceptance of lecture.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
2006 Conference Program Committee Chair
gloria@jgsny2006.org


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland on behalf of the 2006 conference in NYC #warsaw #poland

Nicole Berline <nberline@...>
 

SUBJECT: NYC 2006 conference Call for Papers

The Jewish Genealogical Society is the host society for the 2006
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies’ annual
conference to be held at the Marriott Marquis here in New York City >from
August 13th to 18th.

We are pleased to announce our Call for Papers. Submissions should be
made at the Conference website at
<http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm>http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm

All abstract submissions must be submitted via our on-line abstract
module process. E-mail submittals will not be accepted.

Presentation categories are listed below:

Computer Training Workshops
Eastern and Central European research
Genetics and DNA Research
Holocaust research
Immigration, naturalization and migration
Methodology
Metropolitan New York City and New York State research
Non-European research (e.g. India, China)
Rabbinical research
Repositories
Sephardic research
Technology and Internet resources
United States research
Yiddish theater/Tin Pan Alley

Just follow the instructions at the website.

The decision to accept a submission will be heavily weighted toward
presentations not given at previous IAJGS Conferences, that provide
specific research methodology and that include specific information for
researchers to replicate the success of the presenter in acquiring
information.

Sessions will be one hour and fifteen minutes, with the last 15 minutes
reserved for questions and answers.

Proposal Deadline – December 1, 2005.

Speakers will be notified no later than February 1, 2006

Handout material/resource material, due March 1, 2006, is required for
each presentation and will be included in the syllabus distributed to
all conference registrants. Further details of the handout material
requirements will be provided upon acceptance of lecture.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
2006 Conference Program Committee Chair
gloria@jgsny2006.org


Telshe Yeshiva #lithuania

C&V <proprius@...>
 

The Telshe Yeshiva still exists in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio,
U.S.A., and perhaps Saul Issroff might learn the source of the database
from them.
Cynthia Spikell


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Telshe Yeshiva #lithuania

C&V <proprius@...>
 

The Telshe Yeshiva still exists in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio,
U.S.A., and perhaps Saul Issroff might learn the source of the database
from them.
Cynthia Spikell


Radom cemetery #poland

Frayda
 

Dear Paul,
I was in Radom about 10 years ago and there was nothing to see in the
cemetery. This was particuliarly upsetting to me as my grandfather &
g-grandfather were Matzeva Krichtzers who had made many of the monuments
there. Has this cemetery been restored since my last visit?
Sincerely,
Frayda Zelman

Subject: Radom Cemetery Access
From: "paul.gardner sympatico" <paul.gardner@sympatico.ca>

A family member is planning a second trip to RADOM. Does anybody know how
to gain entrance to the Radom cemetery? I tried in 2002 but could not find
a contact to unlock the gate.

Thank you,


JRI Poland #Poland Radom cemetery #poland

Frayda
 

Dear Paul,
I was in Radom about 10 years ago and there was nothing to see in the
cemetery. This was particuliarly upsetting to me as my grandfather &
g-grandfather were Matzeva Krichtzers who had made many of the monuments
there. Has this cemetery been restored since my last visit?
Sincerely,
Frayda Zelman

Subject: Radom Cemetery Access
From: "paul.gardner sympatico" <paul.gardner@sympatico.ca>

A family member is planning a second trip to RADOM. Does anybody know how
to gain entrance to the Radom cemetery? I tried in 2002 but could not find
a contact to unlock the gate.

Thank you,


Re: bialystok #poland

Bialystoker
 

Tilford Bartman tells us that Rabbi Aisel Harif is Rebbe Yehoshua
Shapira. In his chronicle of the Jewish history of Bialystok -- PINKOS
BIALYSTOK -- A.S. Hershberg includes a chapter about the first Rabbis of
Bialystok and covers Rebbe Shapira.

This two volume history of Jewish Bialystok is written in Yiddish.
BIALYGen is now in the process of having the Tables of Contents
translated to English. After this is completed, a JewishGen Yizkor Book
project will be started to translate Chapters of this book. The Yizkor
Book project will need to raise funds to translate Chapters and the
Chapter on the First Rabbi's of Bialystok will need a sponsor. We do not
yet have any estimates of the funds needed, but if you are interested in
sponsoring the translation of this chapter, please contact me privately.

If you are interested in finding a copy of this book, please refer to
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/Yizkor_Books.htm, which
will lead you to the Libraries where a copy of this book can be found.

Mark Halpern
BIALYGen Coordinator

----- Original Message -----
my grandfather of my g randmother - ok- was a very famous rabbi who
also
served in bialystock for a while. he was called Rabbi Aisel Harif

any info any help please

shalom ruth jerusalem


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Re: bialystok #poland

Bialystoker
 

Tilford Bartman tells us that Rabbi Aisel Harif is Rebbe Yehoshua
Shapira. In his chronicle of the Jewish history of Bialystok -- PINKOS
BIALYSTOK -- A.S. Hershberg includes a chapter about the first Rabbis of
Bialystok and covers Rebbe Shapira.

This two volume history of Jewish Bialystok is written in Yiddish.
BIALYGen is now in the process of having the Tables of Contents
translated to English. After this is completed, a JewishGen Yizkor Book
project will be started to translate Chapters of this book. The Yizkor
Book project will need to raise funds to translate Chapters and the
Chapter on the First Rabbi's of Bialystok will need a sponsor. We do not
yet have any estimates of the funds needed, but if you are interested in
sponsoring the translation of this chapter, please contact me privately.

If you are interested in finding a copy of this book, please refer to
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/Yizkor_Books.htm, which
will lead you to the Libraries where a copy of this book can be found.

Mark Halpern
BIALYGen Coordinator

----- Original Message -----
my grandfather of my g randmother - ok- was a very famous rabbi who
also
served in bialystock for a while. he was called Rabbi Aisel Harif

any info any help please

shalom ruth jerusalem


Re: Rabbi Aisel Harif #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

I assume you know that the Rabbi was called Aisel Harif but that his
real name was Rabbi Yehoshua Aisek ben Yehiel Shapira.

He was well known. I think he was born in the early 1800's and died late
1800's. He is known as the Rabbi of Slonim. I was not aware that he was
ever a Rabbi in Bialystok but of course that's possible. He was
considered one of the great scholars of his time and built up the Slonim
Yeshiva. He was also active politically against certain decrees of the
czarist regime. I think there were some books written about him.

Tilford Bartman

Ruth Cohen Harif wrote:

Address your forum messages to <bialystok@lyris.jewishgen.org>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
my grandfather of my g randmother - ok- was a very famous rabbi who
also served in bialystock for a while. he was called Rabbi Aisel Harif

any info any help please

shalom ruth jerusalem


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Re: Rabbi Aisel Harif #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

I assume you know that the Rabbi was called Aisel Harif but that his
real name was Rabbi Yehoshua Aisek ben Yehiel Shapira.

He was well known. I think he was born in the early 1800's and died late
1800's. He is known as the Rabbi of Slonim. I was not aware that he was
ever a Rabbi in Bialystok but of course that's possible. He was
considered one of the great scholars of his time and built up the Slonim
Yeshiva. He was also active politically against certain decrees of the
czarist regime. I think there were some books written about him.

Tilford Bartman

Ruth Cohen Harif wrote:

Address your forum messages to <bialystok@lyris.jewishgen.org>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
my grandfather of my g randmother - ok- was a very famous rabbi who
also served in bialystock for a while. he was called Rabbi Aisel Harif

any info any help please

shalom ruth jerusalem


Forwarded From JewishGen - NYC Conference Call for Papers #unitedkingdom

Louise Messik at JCR-UK <jcr-uk-mod@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: 15 September 2005 00:12
Subject: [jgsigs-ml] please post to your lists on behalf of the 2006
conference in NYC

SUBJECT: NYC 2006 conference Call for Papers

The Jewish Genealogical Society is the host society for the 2006
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies' annual
conference to be held at the Marriott Marquis here in New York City >from
August 13th to 18th.

We are pleased to announce our Call for Papers. Submissions should be made
at the Conference website at
<http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm>http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm

All abstract submissions must be submitted via our on-line abstract module
process. E-mail submittals will not be accepted.

Presentation categories are listed below:

Computer Training Workshops
Eastern and Central European research
Genetics and DNA Research
Holocaust research
Immigration, naturalization and migration
Methodology
Metropolitan New York City and New York State research
Non-European research (e.g. India, China)
Rabbinical research
Repositories
Sephardic research
Technology and Internet resources
United States research
Yiddish theater/Tin Pan Alley

Just follow the instructions at the website.

The decision to accept a submission will be heavily weighted toward
presentations not given at previous IAJGS Conferences, that provide
specific research methodology and that include specific information for
researchers to replicate the success of the presenter in acquiring
information.

Sessions will be one hour and fifteen minutes, with the last 15 minutes
reserved for questions and answers.

Proposal Deadline - December 1, 2005.

Speakers will be notified no later than February 1, 2006

Handout material/resource material, due March 1, 2006, is required for each
presentation and will be included in the syllabus distributed to all
conference registrants. Further details of the handout material
requirements will be provided upon acceptance of lecture.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
2006 Conference Program Committee Chair
gloria@jgsny2006.org


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Forwarded From JewishGen - NYC Conference Call for Papers #unitedkingdom

Louise Messik at JCR-UK <jcr-uk-mod@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: 15 September 2005 00:12
Subject: [jgsigs-ml] please post to your lists on behalf of the 2006
conference in NYC

SUBJECT: NYC 2006 conference Call for Papers

The Jewish Genealogical Society is the host society for the 2006
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies' annual
conference to be held at the Marriott Marquis here in New York City >from
August 13th to 18th.

We are pleased to announce our Call for Papers. Submissions should be made
at the Conference website at
<http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm>http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm

All abstract submissions must be submitted via our on-line abstract module
process. E-mail submittals will not be accepted.

Presentation categories are listed below:

Computer Training Workshops
Eastern and Central European research
Genetics and DNA Research
Holocaust research
Immigration, naturalization and migration
Methodology
Metropolitan New York City and New York State research
Non-European research (e.g. India, China)
Rabbinical research
Repositories
Sephardic research
Technology and Internet resources
United States research
Yiddish theater/Tin Pan Alley

Just follow the instructions at the website.

The decision to accept a submission will be heavily weighted toward
presentations not given at previous IAJGS Conferences, that provide
specific research methodology and that include specific information for
researchers to replicate the success of the presenter in acquiring
information.

Sessions will be one hour and fifteen minutes, with the last 15 minutes
reserved for questions and answers.

Proposal Deadline - December 1, 2005.

Speakers will be notified no later than February 1, 2006

Handout material/resource material, due March 1, 2006, is required for each
presentation and will be included in the syllabus distributed to all
conference registrants. Further details of the handout material
requirements will be provided upon acceptance of lecture.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
2006 Conference Program Committee Chair
gloria@jgsny2006.org


NYC 2006 Conference--Call for Papers #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society is the host society for the 2006
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies annual
conference to be held at the Marriott Marquis in New York City from
August 13th to 18th. The Conference has just released its Call for
Papers. I hope that the conference will include a number of sessions
that are particularly relevant to the interests of Hungarian SIG
members. For this to happen, however, we will probably have to
identify potential speakers and topics.

I have already been in contact with some potential speakers and
encouraged them to submit proposals. If you have suggestions for
topics and speakers, please contact me off-list. As mentioned below,
the organizers are looking for sessions that do not duplicate
presentations at previous conferences.

Submissions should be made at the Conference website at
<http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm>
All abstract submissions must be submitted via the on-line abstract
module process. They will not accept e-mail submittals.

Presentation categories are listed below:

Computer Training Workshops
Eastern and Central European research
Genetics and DNA Research
Holocaust research
Immigration, naturalization and migration
Methodology
Metropolitan New York City and New York State research
Non-European research (e.g. India, China)
Rabbinical research
Repositories
Sephardic research
Technology and Internet resources
United States research
Yiddish theater/Tin Pan Alley

Just follow the instructions at the website.

The decision to accept a submission will be heavily weighted toward
presentations not given at previous IAJGS Conferences, that provide
specific research methodology and that include specific information for
researchers to replicate the success of the presenter in acquiring
information.

Sessions will be one hour and fifteen minutes, with the last 15 minutes
reserved for questions and answers.

Proposal Deadline is December 1, 2005. Speakers will be notified no later than February 1, 2006

Handout material/resource material, due March 1, 2006, is required for
each presentation and will be included in the syllabus distributed to
all conference registrants. Further details of the handout material
requirements will be provided upon acceptance of lecture.

Potential presenters should direct their Inquiries to Gloria Berkenstat
Freund, 2006 Conference Program Committee Chair <gloria@jgsny2006.org>

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
H-SIG Coordinator


Hungary SIG #Hungary NYC 2006 Conference--Call for Papers #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society is the host society for the 2006
International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies annual
conference to be held at the Marriott Marquis in New York City from
August 13th to 18th. The Conference has just released its Call for
Papers. I hope that the conference will include a number of sessions
that are particularly relevant to the interests of Hungarian SIG
members. For this to happen, however, we will probably have to
identify potential speakers and topics.

I have already been in contact with some potential speakers and
encouraged them to submit proposals. If you have suggestions for
topics and speakers, please contact me off-list. As mentioned below,
the organizers are looking for sessions that do not duplicate
presentations at previous conferences.

Submissions should be made at the Conference website at
<http://www.jgsny2006.org/call.cfm>
All abstract submissions must be submitted via the on-line abstract
module process. They will not accept e-mail submittals.

Presentation categories are listed below:

Computer Training Workshops
Eastern and Central European research
Genetics and DNA Research
Holocaust research
Immigration, naturalization and migration
Methodology
Metropolitan New York City and New York State research
Non-European research (e.g. India, China)
Rabbinical research
Repositories
Sephardic research
Technology and Internet resources
United States research
Yiddish theater/Tin Pan Alley

Just follow the instructions at the website.

The decision to accept a submission will be heavily weighted toward
presentations not given at previous IAJGS Conferences, that provide
specific research methodology and that include specific information for
researchers to replicate the success of the presenter in acquiring
information.

Sessions will be one hour and fifteen minutes, with the last 15 minutes
reserved for questions and answers.

Proposal Deadline is December 1, 2005. Speakers will be notified no later than February 1, 2006

Handout material/resource material, due March 1, 2006, is required for
each presentation and will be included in the syllabus distributed to
all conference registrants. Further details of the handout material
requirements will be provided upon acceptance of lecture.

Potential presenters should direct their Inquiries to Gloria Berkenstat
Freund, 2006 Conference Program Committee Chair <gloria@jgsny2006.org>

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
H-SIG Coordinator


Birth Certificates for Carpathian region #hungary

Eva Blanket
 

Subject: Birth Certificates for Carpathian region
From: Eva Blanket...eva.b@bigpond.net.au
Date: 15th Sept.2005

Hi All.....I am trying to find the whereabouts of the 'Birth/Death/Marriage'
records for the towns of Nizni Vorota (Also Vereczky), Zdeneve (Zhdenovya,
Talamas, Torun, Synevir and Chust (Huszt) all in the Carpathian region from
the 1880's onwards, or even earlier, until 1930. Would anyone know where
would be the best place to search? Are these databases available on the net
by any chance?

Regards,
Eva BLANKET
Searching HERMAN - Nizni Vorota
LIPSHITZ - Zdeneve
WEIS - Talamas/Hukliva
NEIMAN/NEUMAN - Torun
DAVIDOVITS - Synevir, Chust


Hungary SIG #Hungary Birth Certificates for Carpathian region #hungary

Eva Blanket
 

Subject: Birth Certificates for Carpathian region
From: Eva Blanket...eva.b@bigpond.net.au
Date: 15th Sept.2005

Hi All.....I am trying to find the whereabouts of the 'Birth/Death/Marriage'
records for the towns of Nizni Vorota (Also Vereczky), Zdeneve (Zhdenovya,
Talamas, Torun, Synevir and Chust (Huszt) all in the Carpathian region from
the 1880's onwards, or even earlier, until 1930. Would anyone know where
would be the best place to search? Are these databases available on the net
by any chance?

Regards,
Eva BLANKET
Searching HERMAN - Nizni Vorota
LIPSHITZ - Zdeneve
WEIS - Talamas/Hukliva
NEIMAN/NEUMAN - Torun
DAVIDOVITS - Synevir, Chust