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BOOK CITE - Re: Value of Prussian Thaler #germany

Ralph Salinger <salinger@...>
 

The MODERATOR wrote:

MODERATOR NOTE: This kind of question has been asked and discussed
in this forum before. Use the archives search engine to find postings
with "Thaler". IN addition you and other GerSig members should review the
following page(s) at our website:
http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/resources.htm#money
---------
Dear Moderator,

Thank you for your suggestions ! however I have checked out all the
sources before I posted this inquiry !
I have also checked all the references to Thaler and Prussian Thaler via
Google !

If you have any further suggestions where to look I would be delighted
to know.

With kindest regards Ralph Salinger Kfar Ruppin Israel
--------
Thanks for your note and for doing your own research before posting your
question. In cases like that please mention the sources that you have
already consulted when you write a question to the GerSig Forum.

I add Moderator Notes reminding readers of sources available at our
website so that all GerSig readers can be aware of those sources.
The note added to your question was not intended only for you.

Another excellent source for you with regard to your Thaler question
would be:

W. Michael Blumenthal - The Invisible Wall - Germans and Jews, A Personal
Exploration - Counterpoint / Perseus Books, Washington, DC 1998
ISBN 1-887178-73-2 (hard cover) 1-58243-012-8 (paperback)

In addition to providing a rich history of Jewish life in Prussia and
other parts of modern Germany, this book includes countless examples of
financial transactions and often provides 1998 US Dollar values for the
Thaler amounts cited. John Paul Lowens, GerSig Moderator 1


German SIG #Germany BOOK CITE - Re: Value of Prussian Thaler #germany

Ralph Salinger <salinger@...>
 

The MODERATOR wrote:

MODERATOR NOTE: This kind of question has been asked and discussed
in this forum before. Use the archives search engine to find postings
with "Thaler". IN addition you and other GerSig members should review the
following page(s) at our website:
http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/resources.htm#money
---------
Dear Moderator,

Thank you for your suggestions ! however I have checked out all the
sources before I posted this inquiry !
I have also checked all the references to Thaler and Prussian Thaler via
Google !

If you have any further suggestions where to look I would be delighted
to know.

With kindest regards Ralph Salinger Kfar Ruppin Israel
--------
Thanks for your note and for doing your own research before posting your
question. In cases like that please mention the sources that you have
already consulted when you write a question to the GerSig Forum.

I add Moderator Notes reminding readers of sources available at our
website so that all GerSig readers can be aware of those sources.
The note added to your question was not intended only for you.

Another excellent source for you with regard to your Thaler question
would be:

W. Michael Blumenthal - The Invisible Wall - Germans and Jews, A Personal
Exploration - Counterpoint / Perseus Books, Washington, DC 1998
ISBN 1-887178-73-2 (hard cover) 1-58243-012-8 (paperback)

In addition to providing a rich history of Jewish life in Prussia and
other parts of modern Germany, this book includes countless examples of
financial transactions and often provides 1998 US Dollar values for the
Thaler amounts cited. John Paul Lowens, GerSig Moderator 1


Cluj #romania

Melvin Hoffman <MHoffman@...>
 

We are planning a trip to Cluj later this month. Has anyone been there
recently who is willing to share impressions or leads on contacting Jewish
community? Thanks Mel Hoffman

Melvin S. Hoffman
Boston, MA 02110
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies please.


Romania SIG #Romania Cluj #romania

Melvin Hoffman <MHoffman@...>
 

We are planning a trip to Cluj later this month. Has anyone been there
recently who is willing to share impressions or leads on contacting Jewish
community? Thanks Mel Hoffman

Melvin S. Hoffman
Boston, MA 02110
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies please.


Ship Manifests #romania

bernard sivak <gasdoc@...>
 

Fellow Genners
The exit city on the ship manifest is many times misleading.
1. Could it be the point of visa application
2. a city distant >from revolutionary , anarchist upheaval?

The city I can not find in any almanac is ROBRIN, RUSSIA the ancestor I
am researching came >from Bessarabia 1901 but the city of residence listed
was Robrin.
Comments?

Bernard SIVAK, ANN ARBOR MI JGFF Code 51151


Romania SIG #Romania Ship Manifests #romania

bernard sivak <gasdoc@...>
 

Fellow Genners
The exit city on the ship manifest is many times misleading.
1. Could it be the point of visa application
2. a city distant >from revolutionary , anarchist upheaval?

The city I can not find in any almanac is ROBRIN, RUSSIA the ancestor I
am researching came >from Bessarabia 1901 but the city of residence listed
was Robrin.
Comments?

Bernard SIVAK, ANN ARBOR MI JGFF Code 51151


Teleneshty and Yedintsy cemetery project #romania

Joyce Field
 

Dear Rom-Siggers,

Very good news about the Teleneshty cemetery project. Our researcher
found not 1600 but 2000 tombstones in two cemeteries!! It took him
two trips to photograph all the tombstones. He also was able to
photograph the broken tombstones and he created maps of the
cemeteries.

He reports that official records >from Teleneshty are in Chisineu
(National Archives). The synagogue was destroyed during World War II
and probably the kehila records with it.

As the Teleneshty photograph project took longer than he had
originally planned, he had to schedule a separate trip to Yedintsy
this past weekend. I will let you know how this went as soon as I
hear.

Additional funds are needed to complete the Teleneshty and Yedintsy
cemetery projects. There are also projects for Barlad and Bucecea
that we cannot begin until sufficient funds are raised. There are
other cemeteries in Moldova and Romania that need indexing, but
until we get these projects funded I am reluctant to add more.

Donations can be made at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Research.ihtml. Please
contribute as much as you can so we can preserve the important
information in these cemeteries. The stones are deteriorating and
with it the information on our ancestors. We must record and
preserve this data in a permanent format. No one else will do this
for us.

Finally, we are going to need volunteers who can translate the
inscriptions on these tombstones and enter the data into the JOWBR
Excel template. I have one volunteer but he cannot do 2000
tombstones. Please contact me directly if you can read help
translate. the template and instructions are at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/.

Joyce Field
jfield@jewishgen.org


Romania SIG #Romania Teleneshty and Yedintsy cemetery project #romania

Joyce Field
 

Dear Rom-Siggers,

Very good news about the Teleneshty cemetery project. Our researcher
found not 1600 but 2000 tombstones in two cemeteries!! It took him
two trips to photograph all the tombstones. He also was able to
photograph the broken tombstones and he created maps of the
cemeteries.

He reports that official records >from Teleneshty are in Chisineu
(National Archives). The synagogue was destroyed during World War II
and probably the kehila records with it.

As the Teleneshty photograph project took longer than he had
originally planned, he had to schedule a separate trip to Yedintsy
this past weekend. I will let you know how this went as soon as I
hear.

Additional funds are needed to complete the Teleneshty and Yedintsy
cemetery projects. There are also projects for Barlad and Bucecea
that we cannot begin until sufficient funds are raised. There are
other cemeteries in Moldova and Romania that need indexing, but
until we get these projects funded I am reluctant to add more.

Donations can be made at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Research.ihtml. Please
contribute as much as you can so we can preserve the important
information in these cemeteries. The stones are deteriorating and
with it the information on our ancestors. We must record and
preserve this data in a permanent format. No one else will do this
for us.

Finally, we are going to need volunteers who can translate the
inscriptions on these tombstones and enter the data into the JOWBR
Excel template. I have one volunteer but he cannot do 2000
tombstones. Please contact me directly if you can read help
translate. the template and instructions are at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/.

Joyce Field
jfield@jewishgen.org


LARG -- Meeting at IAJGS Conference #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Dear Researchers,

I am pleased to announce that we have a time slot on the schedule
now for our SIG (Special Interest Group) meeting at the 23rd IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy in Washington, D.C.
We will meet Monday, July 21, 3:30-4:45. It is presently listed as
Meeting C on the schedule. The room will be posted. Please let me
know if you plan to attend.

Hope to see you there.

Regards,
Roni

(Roni Seibel Liebowitz)
New York
LARG Co-coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLink Coordinator
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/
Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/belchatow.htm
Belchatow Yizkor Book Project Coordinator
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html
JRI-Poland Board Member http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/


Belchatow Birds of a Feather -- Meeting at IAJGS Conference #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Dear Belchatow Researchers,

In addition to the LARG SIG meeting, several of you also expressed an
interest in a Belchatow BOF (Birds of a Feather) get together. I am
please to tell you that there are enough of us to go ahead with this. This
will be a less formal meeting and the time and place will be decided closer
to the conference. If you are not registered for the whole conference,
please let me know what days you plan to attend. It would also be productive
to tell me ahead of time, what surnames you are researching and grant
permission to share this information with others planning to attend this
meeting. That way if any of us have documents >from Belchatow that include
names the rest of us are researching, we can bring copies to the meeting. I
will also bring any data that may not be on the Belchatow ShtetLinks website
by the time of the meeting.

Belchatow is located approximately 27 miles south of Lodz. Nearby towns and
villages include: Grocholice (2.4 miles SSW), Kamiensk (11.5 miles SSE),
Szcercow (11.7 miles W), Rozprza (11.7 miles ESE), Piotrkow Trybunalski
(13.1 miles E), Sulmierzyce (14.9 miles SSW), Tuszyn (17.6 miles NNE), Lask
(18.4 miles NW) Widawa (19.2 mles WNW), Pabience (20.7 miles N) and Radomsko
(20.9 miles S). If your family lived in any of these places, it's possible
some of your family also lived in Belchatow and may have records in the
Belchatow Jewish civil record registers.

I look forward to seeing you in July.

Sincerely,
Roni

(Roni Seibel Liebowitz)
New York
LARG Co-coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLink Coordinator
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/
Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/belchatow.htm
Belchatow Yizkor Book Project Coordinator
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html
JRI-Poland Board Member http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland LARG -- Meeting at IAJGS Conference #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Dear Researchers,

I am pleased to announce that we have a time slot on the schedule
now for our SIG (Special Interest Group) meeting at the 23rd IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy in Washington, D.C.
We will meet Monday, July 21, 3:30-4:45. It is presently listed as
Meeting C on the schedule. The room will be posted. Please let me
know if you plan to attend.

Hope to see you there.

Regards,
Roni

(Roni Seibel Liebowitz)
New York
LARG Co-coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLink Coordinator
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/
Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/belchatow.htm
Belchatow Yizkor Book Project Coordinator
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html
JRI-Poland Board Member http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Belchatow Birds of a Feather -- Meeting at IAJGS Conference #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Dear Belchatow Researchers,

In addition to the LARG SIG meeting, several of you also expressed an
interest in a Belchatow BOF (Birds of a Feather) get together. I am
please to tell you that there are enough of us to go ahead with this. This
will be a less formal meeting and the time and place will be decided closer
to the conference. If you are not registered for the whole conference,
please let me know what days you plan to attend. It would also be productive
to tell me ahead of time, what surnames you are researching and grant
permission to share this information with others planning to attend this
meeting. That way if any of us have documents >from Belchatow that include
names the rest of us are researching, we can bring copies to the meeting. I
will also bring any data that may not be on the Belchatow ShtetLinks website
by the time of the meeting.

Belchatow is located approximately 27 miles south of Lodz. Nearby towns and
villages include: Grocholice (2.4 miles SSW), Kamiensk (11.5 miles SSE),
Szcercow (11.7 miles W), Rozprza (11.7 miles ESE), Piotrkow Trybunalski
(13.1 miles E), Sulmierzyce (14.9 miles SSW), Tuszyn (17.6 miles NNE), Lask
(18.4 miles NW) Widawa (19.2 mles WNW), Pabience (20.7 miles N) and Radomsko
(20.9 miles S). If your family lived in any of these places, it's possible
some of your family also lived in Belchatow and may have records in the
Belchatow Jewish civil record registers.

I look forward to seeing you in July.

Sincerely,
Roni

(Roni Seibel Liebowitz)
New York
LARG Co-coordinator http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLink Coordinator
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/
Belchatow Shtetl CO-OP Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/belchatow.htm
Belchatow Yizkor Book Project Coordinator
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html
JRI-Poland Board Member http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/


Re: Help with Surname Etymology #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 5/7/03 3:12:00 PM, sarahgibb@earthlink.net writes:

<< I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure out if the surname ZAPOLANSKY is

associated with Poland, or any other particular place (like a river or a

village). I have looked for this family name in various databases of Jewish

surnames and have not found it. My ggf Mottel ZAPOLANSKY was born in

Kremenchug and lived in Iekaterinoslav (now Dnepropetrovsk). >>

I'll be very brave (or rash!) and suggest that the ZAPOLANSKY is based on
the Polish "za" which means "behind," "after," "by" or "in" or "on." As for
the rest, there is a Polish noun "polana" which means "glade," or
"clearing." So ZAPOLANSKY may be a sort of toponym meaning "he who lives
behind or beside the glade."

I did some quick lookups on the internet for ZAPOLANSKY and found the name
listed at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/szczuczyn-belarus/szc368.html

which is a necrology for Ostrin by Ellen Sadove Renck.

The second URL that appeared was for an artist named Alexander Zapolansky
who was born in Tomsk, Siberia, and claims to be a descendent of Rabbi Tosfot
Yomtov ( Lipman-Heller). See "The Tribe: The Cohen-Levy Heritage" website at:

http://www.cohen-levi.org/whos_who/zapolyansky_a001.htm

So I then did an online search for Tosfot Yomtov and one of the URLs that
turned up

http://www.tzemachdovid.org/gedolim/maharamschick.html

which is for the 100th Yahrzeit of the "Maharam Schick." This has a
"click-on" for the Shick family tree showing descendents of Rabbi Yuda ben
Maharan Padua, Saul Wahl (the alleged "King for a Day") Rabbi
Katzenellenbogen, Rabbi Yomtov Heller, and others.

Dr. Neil Rosenstein, the noted genealogist who specializes in the
rabbinical genealogy has published articles on the Katzenellenbogens, so
maybe he would be the best person to ask whether the artist Alexander
Zapolansky is, as he claims on , a descendent of YomTov Heller. Dr.
Rosenstein's email address is:

Neil@tali.net

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Help with Surname Etymology #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 5/7/03 3:12:00 PM, sarahgibb@earthlink.net writes:

<< I'm wondering if anyone can help me figure out if the surname ZAPOLANSKY is

associated with Poland, or any other particular place (like a river or a

village). I have looked for this family name in various databases of Jewish

surnames and have not found it. My ggf Mottel ZAPOLANSKY was born in

Kremenchug and lived in Iekaterinoslav (now Dnepropetrovsk). >>

I'll be very brave (or rash!) and suggest that the ZAPOLANSKY is based on
the Polish "za" which means "behind," "after," "by" or "in" or "on." As for
the rest, there is a Polish noun "polana" which means "glade," or
"clearing." So ZAPOLANSKY may be a sort of toponym meaning "he who lives
behind or beside the glade."

I did some quick lookups on the internet for ZAPOLANSKY and found the name
listed at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/szczuczyn-belarus/szc368.html

which is a necrology for Ostrin by Ellen Sadove Renck.

The second URL that appeared was for an artist named Alexander Zapolansky
who was born in Tomsk, Siberia, and claims to be a descendent of Rabbi Tosfot
Yomtov ( Lipman-Heller). See "The Tribe: The Cohen-Levy Heritage" website at:

http://www.cohen-levi.org/whos_who/zapolyansky_a001.htm

So I then did an online search for Tosfot Yomtov and one of the URLs that
turned up

http://www.tzemachdovid.org/gedolim/maharamschick.html

which is for the 100th Yahrzeit of the "Maharam Schick." This has a
"click-on" for the Shick family tree showing descendents of Rabbi Yuda ben
Maharan Padua, Saul Wahl (the alleged "King for a Day") Rabbi
Katzenellenbogen, Rabbi Yomtov Heller, and others.

Dr. Neil Rosenstein, the noted genealogist who specializes in the
rabbinical genealogy has published articles on the Katzenellenbogens, so
maybe he would be the best person to ask whether the artist Alexander
Zapolansky is, as he claims on , a descendent of YomTov Heller. Dr.
Rosenstein's email address is:

Neil@tali.net

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;
SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and
Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Professor Anders in Toronto May 8 #latvia

lisa.newman.a@...
 

In case any of you have not heard, Professor Edward Anders, author of JEWS IN
LIEJAPJA, LATVIA 1941-45 - A Memorial Book is speaking to the Toronto Jewish
Genealogical Society, Thursday May 8, 8 pm at Shaarei Shomayim Synagogue,
Glencairn Avenue at Bathurst.

Lisa Newman
researching SAMUEL, SEBBA - Libau
PINES - Belarus
ROTENBERG - Ivansk, Poland


Latvia SIG #Latvia Professor Anders in Toronto May 8 #latvia

lisa.newman.a@...
 

In case any of you have not heard, Professor Edward Anders, author of JEWS IN
LIEJAPJA, LATVIA 1941-45 - A Memorial Book is speaking to the Toronto Jewish
Genealogical Society, Thursday May 8, 8 pm at Shaarei Shomayim Synagogue,
Glencairn Avenue at Bathurst.

Lisa Newman
researching SAMUEL, SEBBA - Libau
PINES - Belarus
ROTENBERG - Ivansk, Poland


Re: Salomon family in Gothenburg #scandinavia

adamandlopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

I have forwarded your message to an uncle of mine,
Julian SALOMON.

Adam Yamey, London UK.

------------------------
Norman Poser:

I am tracing the history of my ancestors, the
Salomon family.
Marcus Wolff Salomon, my great-grandfather, lived in
Stockholm about 1879-1884. He became a Swedish citizen.
...snip...
------------------------


Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Re: Salomon family in Gothenburg #scandinavia

adamandlopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

I have forwarded your message to an uncle of mine,
Julian SALOMON.

Adam Yamey, London UK.

------------------------
Norman Poser:

I am tracing the history of my ancestors, the
Salomon family.
Marcus Wolff Salomon, my great-grandfather, lived in
Stockholm about 1879-1884. He became a Swedish citizen.
...snip...
------------------------


Re: Simcha #general

dshapiro@...
 

Geoffrey Collins wrote: >Is there any truth in the idea that 'Simha'
is a name given to Boys by Ashkenazim and Girls by Sefardim?>

No, this is erroneous. This is a name that is unisex, no matter if one
is Ashkenazi or Sepharadi.

Varda Epstein
This is correct only in modern Israel, but I think further investigation
will show that most of these Ashkenazi female Simchas were named after a
relative named Freida and translated it to Simcha, but traditionally the
name was restricted to males. The same is true with Yona, which
traditionally was a male name (like the prophet Jonah) but in Israel is
used by females as a translation of the Yiddish Toibe (dove).

David Shapiro
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Simcha #general

dshapiro@...
 

Geoffrey Collins wrote: >Is there any truth in the idea that 'Simha'
is a name given to Boys by Ashkenazim and Girls by Sefardim?>

No, this is erroneous. This is a name that is unisex, no matter if one
is Ashkenazi or Sepharadi.

Varda Epstein
This is correct only in modern Israel, but I think further investigation
will show that most of these Ashkenazi female Simchas were named after a
relative named Freida and translated it to Simcha, but traditionally the
name was restricted to males. The same is true with Yona, which
traditionally was a male name (like the prophet Jonah) but in Israel is
used by females as a translation of the Yiddish Toibe (dove).

David Shapiro
Jerusalem