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VM 4642 and 4643 have been translated! Thank you!// Moscow military archives? #general

Steven Garber <shgarber@...>
 

Further translations would be redundant. Has anyone tried to obtain
military records >from Moscow?


Steve Garber, of Denver
Researching:
GARBER (Staryy Chartoriysk, Ukraine) BAR (Kolki, Ukraine (near Lutsk)).
LIFSCHES/LIFSCHITZ (Vashkovtsy, Ukraine; Israel)
GLASER (Vashkovtsy, Ukraine)
ZLOCZOWER (Vizhnitsa, Vashkovtsy, Milie, Ispas, Czarnohuzy, Chernovtsy
(all formerly in North Bukovina), Ukraine; Israel, elsewhere).
CHERGER (Staryy Chartoriysk/Lutsk area, Ukraine)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM 4642 and 4643 have been translated! Thank you!// Moscow military archives? #general

Steven Garber <shgarber@...>
 

Further translations would be redundant. Has anyone tried to obtain
military records >from Moscow?


Steve Garber, of Denver
Researching:
GARBER (Staryy Chartoriysk, Ukraine) BAR (Kolki, Ukraine (near Lutsk)).
LIFSCHES/LIFSCHITZ (Vashkovtsy, Ukraine; Israel)
GLASER (Vashkovtsy, Ukraine)
ZLOCZOWER (Vizhnitsa, Vashkovtsy, Milie, Ispas, Czarnohuzy, Chernovtsy
(all formerly in North Bukovina), Ukraine; Israel, elsewhere).
CHERGER (Staryy Chartoriysk/Lutsk area, Ukraine)


Additional aids to Romanian Pinkas HaKehillot #romania

Joyce Field
 

The Yizkor Book Project is very pleased to announce enhancements to
the Pinkas HaKehillot Romania volumes,
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania1.html
and
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania2.html.

A few weeks ago when the Table of Contents for these two volumes went
online, we included some additional materials-- a list of towns with
the old name and the current name for each volume.

We soon realized that we also needed a list of Hungarian place names
for Northern Transylvania, and Shalom Bronstein volunteered to
compile this list, which is now an addendum to volume 2 and is
directly accessible at
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/rom2_00001.html.

We hope that this additional list will be of great value to our
researchers. Many thanks to Shalom.

Joyce Field
jfield@jewishgen.org
Yizkor Book Project Manager


Romania SIG #Romania Additional aids to Romanian Pinkas HaKehillot #romania

Joyce Field
 

The Yizkor Book Project is very pleased to announce enhancements to
the Pinkas HaKehillot Romania volumes,
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania1.html
and
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania2.html.

A few weeks ago when the Table of Contents for these two volumes went
online, we included some additional materials-- a list of towns with
the old name and the current name for each volume.

We soon realized that we also needed a list of Hungarian place names
for Northern Transylvania, and Shalom Bronstein volunteered to
compile this list, which is now an addendum to volume 2 and is
directly accessible at
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/rom2_00001.html.

We hope that this additional list will be of great value to our
researchers. Many thanks to Shalom.

Joyce Field
jfield@jewishgen.org
Yizkor Book Project Manager


Re: Klonomos gever #latvia

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

That's brilliant thanks so much for the help.
I have emailed Irinwein@latnet.lv whose address I got >from
the Latvia SIG page but haven't heard back >from her. Is it
better to use traditional post to contact the Archive?

Thanks again

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Dinberg Donna <donna.dinberg@lac-bac.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:26:59 -0400

I checked my index of the names in Yudel Flior's book "Dvinsk, the rise
and decline of a town" and have found the following (page number
references in parentheses):
...snip...


Latvia SIG #Latvia RE: Klonomos gever #latvia

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

That's brilliant thanks so much for the help.
I have emailed Irinwein@latnet.lv whose address I got >from
the Latvia SIG page but haven't heard back >from her. Is it
better to use traditional post to contact the Archive?

Thanks again

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Dinberg Donna <donna.dinberg@lac-bac.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:26:59 -0400

I checked my index of the names in Yudel Flior's book "Dvinsk, the rise
and decline of a town" and have found the following (page number
references in parentheses):
...snip...


Re: The Jewish residents of Czarist St. Petersburg #general

Seth J. Bookey <sethbook@...>
 

In <40B45971.75190507.0B647274@aol.com> HeyJudy123@aol.com writes:

I have noticed some bewildered questions on this forum as to
whether there were Jews in Czarist St. Petersburg, and how they
came to be there.
Now that our learned Naomi Fatouros has entered this discussion,
I feel duty-bound to add that the family of my paternal grandfather,
Jacob SEGAL, had lived in St. Petersburg.
Yes, my paternal grandfather's father had done something that was
considered to be a great service to the Czar and, for this, he had
been awarded a permit to live in Petersburg, known as
the "Czar's own city."
This would have taken place during Alexander's reign,
and Alexander was known for being benign toward his Jewish
subjects. I have read that Alexander's kindness was viewed
with disapproval by some of his top advisors. He famously replied--
and I paraphrase here--"In a century, a third of the Jews
will have left, a third of them will have been murdered, and
a third of them will no longer practice their religion."
Prescient, hmmm?
I think you are confusing your Tsars. Tsar Alexander II was a reformer,
and was assassinated in the 1860s, I believe. Alexander III, father of
Nicholas II, was a reactionary who was oppressive to the Jews, and it was
he or his minister who said they would kill a third, exile a third, and
convert a third of the Jews, to settle the "problem." Why would a reformer
tsar tell one of his detractors, "don't worry, a third of them will be
murdered?" A reformer usually doesn't stand by while a few million are
killed.

So it wasn't Alexander II being prescient, but Alexander III being a
forerunner to Hitler.

--Seth
--
~~~~~
Seth J. Bookey
New York City
sethbook@panix.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Jewish residents of Czarist St. Petersburg #general

Seth J. Bookey <sethbook@...>
 

In <40B45971.75190507.0B647274@aol.com> HeyJudy123@aol.com writes:

I have noticed some bewildered questions on this forum as to
whether there were Jews in Czarist St. Petersburg, and how they
came to be there.
Now that our learned Naomi Fatouros has entered this discussion,
I feel duty-bound to add that the family of my paternal grandfather,
Jacob SEGAL, had lived in St. Petersburg.
Yes, my paternal grandfather's father had done something that was
considered to be a great service to the Czar and, for this, he had
been awarded a permit to live in Petersburg, known as
the "Czar's own city."
This would have taken place during Alexander's reign,
and Alexander was known for being benign toward his Jewish
subjects. I have read that Alexander's kindness was viewed
with disapproval by some of his top advisors. He famously replied--
and I paraphrase here--"In a century, a third of the Jews
will have left, a third of them will have been murdered, and
a third of them will no longer practice their religion."
Prescient, hmmm?
I think you are confusing your Tsars. Tsar Alexander II was a reformer,
and was assassinated in the 1860s, I believe. Alexander III, father of
Nicholas II, was a reactionary who was oppressive to the Jews, and it was
he or his minister who said they would kill a third, exile a third, and
convert a third of the Jews, to settle the "problem." Why would a reformer
tsar tell one of his detractors, "don't worry, a third of them will be
murdered?" A reformer usually doesn't stand by while a few million are
killed.

So it wasn't Alexander II being prescient, but Alexander III being a
forerunner to Hitler.

--Seth
--
~~~~~
Seth J. Bookey
New York City
sethbook@panix.com


Viewmate 4606: 1867 Moses GOTLIEB death, Szczyczyn, Poland #general

Rebecca Fenning <macguffin317@...>
 

Dear all,

I think I have found my gggg-grandfather Moses GOTLIEB's 1867 death record,
but I am unable to translate it on my own. Could some kind soul help me?

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4606

Moses was >from Rajgrod, Poland and was born ca 1810-1815.

Thank you for your help and please respond privately!

Rebecca Fenning
Los Angeles, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 4606: 1867 Moses GOTLIEB death, Szczyczyn, Poland #general

Rebecca Fenning <macguffin317@...>
 

Dear all,

I think I have found my gggg-grandfather Moses GOTLIEB's 1867 death record,
but I am unable to translate it on my own. Could some kind soul help me?

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4606

Moses was >from Rajgrod, Poland and was born ca 1810-1815.

Thank you for your help and please respond privately!

Rebecca Fenning
Los Angeles, CA


Additional aids to Romanian Pinkas HaKehillot #general

Joyce Field
 

The Yizkor Book Project is very pleased to announce enhancements to
the Pinkas HaKehillot Romania volumes,
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania1.html
and
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania2.html .

A few weeks ago when the Table of Contents for these two volumes went
online, we included some additional materials-- a list of towns with
the old name and the current name for each volume.

We soon realized that we also needed a list of Hungarian place names
for Northern Transylvania, and Shalom Bronstein volunteered to
compile this list, which is now an addendum to volume 2 and is
directly accessible at
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/rom2_00001.html .

We hope that this additional list will be of great value to our
researchers. Many thanks to Shalom.

Joyce Field
jfield@jewishgen.org
Yizkor Book Project Manager


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Additional aids to Romanian Pinkas HaKehillot #general

Joyce Field
 

The Yizkor Book Project is very pleased to announce enhancements to
the Pinkas HaKehillot Romania volumes,
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania1.html
and
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania2.html .

A few weeks ago when the Table of Contents for these two volumes went
online, we included some additional materials-- a list of towns with
the old name and the current name for each volume.

We soon realized that we also needed a list of Hungarian place names
for Northern Transylvania, and Shalom Bronstein volunteered to
compile this list, which is now an addendum to volume 2 and is
directly accessible at
http://www2.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/rom2_00001.html .

We hope that this additional list will be of great value to our
researchers. Many thanks to Shalom.

Joyce Field
jfield@jewishgen.org
Yizkor Book Project Manager


Re: translation of few hungarian words #hungary

Peter I.Hidas <thidas@...>
 

On Tuesday, Aug 24, 2004, at 08:45 Canada/Eastern, tom klein wrote:

first, "falu" means "town"
Mistake. Falu means village.

and "falva" means "town of". "patak" means "stream". these are words
commonly attached to place names, rather than actual places
themselves. there are very, very many hungarian place names containing
"falu" or "patak".
patak= creek, brook, streamlet, rivulet

second, an excellent online resource for hungarian place names is the
radix 1913 gazetteer of hungary at
<http://www.radixindex.com/cgi-bin/hn1913.cgi>. you can search by
name or partial name and it will list places along with their county
and district, as well as mapping their location on a map of "greater
hungary". (it includes pre-trianon areas like slovakia and
transylvania.)

"ga'cs orsza'g" refers to the land of galicia.


....... tom klein, toronto


ilona lerman <phililona2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

I recently came across the names of two places on my great uncle's
marriage record >from Rozhegy >from 1897(today Ruzomberok Slovakia).
Does anyone know of these places- RASZTOK FALUN and BESENYO PATAK.
Could the latter be the same as Lipto Patak? Also I found on a birth
record the words GACS ORZAG. Does this refer to the "state" of
Galicia? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ilona Lerman Beerot
Yitzchak, IsraelPeter
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada

www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
peterhidas@yahoo.com


Re: Elmebaj #hungary

David Sencer
 

Would dementia work? That is a common stated cause of death of the aged.

Dave Sencer
Atlanta, GA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: re: translation of few hungarian words #hungary

Peter I.Hidas <thidas@...>
 

On Tuesday, Aug 24, 2004, at 08:45 Canada/Eastern, tom klein wrote:

first, "falu" means "town"
Mistake. Falu means village.

and "falva" means "town of". "patak" means "stream". these are words
commonly attached to place names, rather than actual places
themselves. there are very, very many hungarian place names containing
"falu" or "patak".
patak= creek, brook, streamlet, rivulet

second, an excellent online resource for hungarian place names is the
radix 1913 gazetteer of hungary at
<http://www.radixindex.com/cgi-bin/hn1913.cgi>. you can search by
name or partial name and it will list places along with their county
and district, as well as mapping their location on a map of "greater
hungary". (it includes pre-trianon areas like slovakia and
transylvania.)

"ga'cs orsza'g" refers to the land of galicia.


....... tom klein, toronto


ilona lerman <phililona2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

I recently came across the names of two places on my great uncle's
marriage record >from Rozhegy >from 1897(today Ruzomberok Slovakia).
Does anyone know of these places- RASZTOK FALUN and BESENYO PATAK.
Could the latter be the same as Lipto Patak? Also I found on a birth
record the words GACS ORZAG. Does this refer to the "state" of
Galicia? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Ilona Lerman Beerot
Yitzchak, IsraelPeter
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada

www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
peterhidas@yahoo.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Elmebaj #hungary

David Sencer
 

Would dementia work? That is a common stated cause of death of the aged.

Dave Sencer
Atlanta, GA


Another milestone! Another thank you! #france

Susan E. King <susan.king@...>
 

As many of you are aware, the "behind the scenes" team has been working
tirelessly (and endlessly) to implement our Central User Registration
Environment (CURE) and fine-tuning all the elements in this huge project.
CURE will enable us to better manage all our back office systems and
ensure integration of all JewishGen programs and projects into one
central system.

Would you believe that we are fast approaching the 100,000 mark in user
registrations to JewishGen? An awesome number for a community that started
with slightly more than 100 people and one computer just 18 short years ago!
Now, to enable us to meet the user demand we are running 10 servers in a 24/7
secure co-location facility. It truly boggles the mind!

As busy as we have been behind the scenes, I wanted to take a moment to thank
all the many hundreds of our world wide volunteers who have contributed so
greatly to making JewishGen a vital community and recognized leader in the
field of Jewish genealogy.

We applaud their efforts and their dedication and commitment to this
organization. To those who have blessed us with their financial support
over the years, please know we are ever so grateful! We could not have gotten
where we are today without you.

My personal thanks go out to all the JewishGen Vice Presidents, the SIG
Leaders and the JewishGen Board for their significant contributions,
commitment and dedication to the missions and goals of this organization.
With your help we have achieved yet another milestone in our development. We
look forward to using our new tools to create the building blocks for an
even greater and more efficient JewishGen in the months and years to come.

Susan E. King
JewishGen


French SIG #France Another milestone! Another thank you! #france

Susan E. King <susan.king@...>
 

As many of you are aware, the "behind the scenes" team has been working
tirelessly (and endlessly) to implement our Central User Registration
Environment (CURE) and fine-tuning all the elements in this huge project.
CURE will enable us to better manage all our back office systems and
ensure integration of all JewishGen programs and projects into one
central system.

Would you believe that we are fast approaching the 100,000 mark in user
registrations to JewishGen? An awesome number for a community that started
with slightly more than 100 people and one computer just 18 short years ago!
Now, to enable us to meet the user demand we are running 10 servers in a 24/7
secure co-location facility. It truly boggles the mind!

As busy as we have been behind the scenes, I wanted to take a moment to thank
all the many hundreds of our world wide volunteers who have contributed so
greatly to making JewishGen a vital community and recognized leader in the
field of Jewish genealogy.

We applaud their efforts and their dedication and commitment to this
organization. To those who have blessed us with their financial support
over the years, please know we are ever so grateful! We could not have gotten
where we are today without you.

My personal thanks go out to all the JewishGen Vice Presidents, the SIG
Leaders and the JewishGen Board for their significant contributions,
commitment and dedication to the missions and goals of this organization.
With your help we have achieved yet another milestone in our development. We
look forward to using our new tools to create the building blocks for an
even greater and more efficient JewishGen in the months and years to come.

Susan E. King
JewishGen


European Day of Jewish Culture #france

Eliane Roos <ljrooschuhl@...>
 

I am sorry for errors made in giving information on that great day
in many European countries, esp France, Germany etc :
it will take place on Sunday September 5th and here is a more convenient
address :

www.jewisheritage.org

do enjoy these opportunities,
Eliane Roos Schuhl Paris





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French SIG #France European Day of Jewish Culture #france

Eliane Roos <ljrooschuhl@...>
 

I am sorry for errors made in giving information on that great day
in many European countries, esp France, Germany etc :
it will take place on Sunday September 5th and here is a more convenient
address :

www.jewisheritage.org

do enjoy these opportunities,
Eliane Roos Schuhl Paris





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