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INTRO: Researching LOBENTHAL family #germany

Cindy Mindell-Wong <cmindellwong@...>
 

Hello, GerSig members:
I just joined the group. I have just started doing genealogy research and consider
myself a novice in German-Jewish Genealogy research. I live in suburban Rochester,
New York [USA]. My native language is English and I am also fluent in Hebrew.
I am moderately proficient in French. I consider myself advanced in using a
computer. My experience in using the Internet is extensive.

I have so far identified no first names or significant dates of my great-
grandparents or great-great-grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out where the LOBENTHAL family
originated in Germany, and the names of those members who emigrated to New York
City sometime in the mid- to late-19th century.

I look forward to participating in this lively group. Thank you. Sincerely,

Cindy Mindell-Wong cmindellwong@yahoo.com Rochester, New York / USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Thanks for your INTRO letter. Now, please read ours.
As it suggests, you should search the GerSig archives and also the JewishGen
archives for past discussions of LOBENTHAL research.

At the end of our INTRO letter you'll find a Q & A list which includes links
to the JEWISHGEN FAQ - a comprehensive beginner's guide to Jewish Genealogy.
It also includes links to the JGFF where you can look for other people who have
been researching the name LOBENTHAL. Good luck. John Paul Lowens, GerSig MOD1


German SIG #Germany INTRO: Researching LOBENTHAL family #germany

Cindy Mindell-Wong <cmindellwong@...>
 

Hello, GerSig members:
I just joined the group. I have just started doing genealogy research and consider
myself a novice in German-Jewish Genealogy research. I live in suburban Rochester,
New York [USA]. My native language is English and I am also fluent in Hebrew.
I am moderately proficient in French. I consider myself advanced in using a
computer. My experience in using the Internet is extensive.

I have so far identified no first names or significant dates of my great-
grandparents or great-great-grandparents.

My primary research goals now are to find out where the LOBENTHAL family
originated in Germany, and the names of those members who emigrated to New York
City sometime in the mid- to late-19th century.

I look forward to participating in this lively group. Thank you. Sincerely,

Cindy Mindell-Wong cmindellwong@yahoo.com Rochester, New York / USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Thanks for your INTRO letter. Now, please read ours.
As it suggests, you should search the GerSig archives and also the JewishGen
archives for past discussions of LOBENTHAL research.

At the end of our INTRO letter you'll find a Q & A list which includes links
to the JEWISHGEN FAQ - a comprehensive beginner's guide to Jewish Genealogy.
It also includes links to the JGFF where you can look for other people who have
been researching the name LOBENTHAL. Good luck. John Paul Lowens, GerSig MOD1


Re: LDS Family History Centers #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

In reply to Alan Glick and Burt Schreibers' messages
on the subject of the LDS Family History Centers, I
would like to add that the members of the JGS of Montreal
have been using the facilities of the LDS-FHC in our city
for many years and have never had such an experience.
What Burt describes below seems to be standard practice.
We have found the directors and their assistants to be helpful,
friendly and never personally invasive. We have even held
two of our meetings at the FHC in the past, and a third one is
now in the planning process for next spring. We have found
there to be a warm spirit of cooperation and mutual respect.

Merle Kastner
JGS of Montreal, Programming
merlek@videotron.ca
~~~

Subject: Re: LDS Family History Centers
From: "Burt & Sylvia Schreiber" toyman58@earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:42:12 -0400
X-Message-Number: 10

My experience has been the reverse of this. All they have asked for is
whether or not "are you a member of the Mormon Church" That was never
asked again, as I used their info over a course of several years.!
Burt Schreiber
Ft Myers, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan D Glick" aglick1@tampabay.rr.com
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 10:01 AM
Subject: LDS Family History Centers

I recently went to my local Family History Center to do research on my
Grandfather. As a first step, the personnel asked me to fill out 2 forms:
a "Family Group Record" and a chart, both of which asked me to list my
Grandfather's descendents. Should I be wary of doing so? If I just want to
search city directories and census reports for a specific name, why would
the Center first require me to give them names of other relatives? Is this
their standard operating procedure, or should I again request the microfilms
but request not to have to fill out any forms?

Alan Glick
Valrico, FL
aglick1@tampabay.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: LDS Family History Centers #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

In reply to Alan Glick and Burt Schreibers' messages
on the subject of the LDS Family History Centers, I
would like to add that the members of the JGS of Montreal
have been using the facilities of the LDS-FHC in our city
for many years and have never had such an experience.
What Burt describes below seems to be standard practice.
We have found the directors and their assistants to be helpful,
friendly and never personally invasive. We have even held
two of our meetings at the FHC in the past, and a third one is
now in the planning process for next spring. We have found
there to be a warm spirit of cooperation and mutual respect.

Merle Kastner
JGS of Montreal, Programming
merlek@videotron.ca
~~~

Subject: Re: LDS Family History Centers
From: "Burt & Sylvia Schreiber" toyman58@earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:42:12 -0400
X-Message-Number: 10

My experience has been the reverse of this. All they have asked for is
whether or not "are you a member of the Mormon Church" That was never
asked again, as I used their info over a course of several years.!
Burt Schreiber
Ft Myers, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan D Glick" aglick1@tampabay.rr.com
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 10:01 AM
Subject: LDS Family History Centers

I recently went to my local Family History Center to do research on my
Grandfather. As a first step, the personnel asked me to fill out 2 forms:
a "Family Group Record" and a chart, both of which asked me to list my
Grandfather's descendents. Should I be wary of doing so? If I just want to
search city directories and census reports for a specific name, why would
the Center first require me to give them names of other relatives? Is this
their standard operating procedure, or should I again request the microfilms
but request not to have to fill out any forms?

Alan Glick
Valrico, FL
aglick1@tampabay.rr.com


Potok Zloty #galicia

gilpersons@yahoo.com <gilpersons@...>
 

I will be visiting this village [Potok Zloty], the village of my
maternal grandfather, in the fall. I would appreciate
any information regarding the place, eg,
cemeteries, synagogues, 'village halls', etc. The
village seems to have a castle or palace associated
with it which seems strange for a place so tiny. I've
been able to uncover nothing else about it.

Please reply privately. Thank you.

Howie Gilman
Briarcliff Manor, NY

Researching KROPITZER (Potok Zloty)

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Potok Zloty #galicia

gilpersons@yahoo.com <gilpersons@...>
 

I will be visiting this village [Potok Zloty], the village of my
maternal grandfather, in the fall. I would appreciate
any information regarding the place, eg,
cemeteries, synagogues, 'village halls', etc. The
village seems to have a castle or palace associated
with it which seems strange for a place so tiny. I've
been able to uncover nothing else about it.

Please reply privately. Thank you.

Howie Gilman
Briarcliff Manor, NY

Researching KROPITZER (Potok Zloty)

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gilpersons@yahoo.com



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Russian Jews - immigration and emigration lists from the 1880s #ukraine

Ukraine Moderating Team...
 

Genners:

Suzan Wynne has graciously given us permission to reprint her letter
to the Gesher-GaliciaSig Digest because it is relevant to the Ukraine.
If anyone woud like to volunteer for this project please let us know so
that we may let Suzan know.

Hinda Solomon, Rishon LeZion Israel, (hinda_s@hotmail.com)brought it to
our attention and would like to know approximately how many entries there
are and if they are easy to read.


Subject: Brody
From: "Suzan & Ron Wynne" <srwynne@erols.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004

While in Jerusalem at last month's Jewish Genealogy conference, I spent
a lot of time at the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish
People. I requested a microfilm that had had some promising material for
one of my towns and noted that most of the film had information about
Brody, which is not of personal interest. So, I was quickly scrolling
through, but, then, my eye caught a form with columns. Hmmm. I stopped
scrolling and saw that I was looking at emigration lists. This film and
several more had images of immigration and emigration lists >from the 1880s.
While the vast majority of those listed were Russian Jews fleeing >from
pogroms and being moved on to Vienna, there were Brody residents among
those listed.

The material cries out to be indexed. The indexing will have to be done
in Israel at the Central Archives because efforts to have the microfilms
reproduced and sent to the US have been rejected for the moment.
Permission would have to be granted >from officials at the archives in Lviv
and there is some political sensitivity involved. Are there any Israelis
interested in taking on this indexing project?

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, MD


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Russian Jews - immigration and emigration lists from the 1880s #ukraine

Ukraine Moderating Team...
 

Genners:

Suzan Wynne has graciously given us permission to reprint her letter
to the Gesher-GaliciaSig Digest because it is relevant to the Ukraine.
If anyone woud like to volunteer for this project please let us know so
that we may let Suzan know.

Hinda Solomon, Rishon LeZion Israel, (hinda_s@hotmail.com)brought it to
our attention and would like to know approximately how many entries there
are and if they are easy to read.


Subject: Brody
From: "Suzan & Ron Wynne" <srwynne@erols.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004

While in Jerusalem at last month's Jewish Genealogy conference, I spent
a lot of time at the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish
People. I requested a microfilm that had had some promising material for
one of my towns and noted that most of the film had information about
Brody, which is not of personal interest. So, I was quickly scrolling
through, but, then, my eye caught a form with columns. Hmmm. I stopped
scrolling and saw that I was looking at emigration lists. This film and
several more had images of immigration and emigration lists >from the 1880s.
While the vast majority of those listed were Russian Jews fleeing >from
pogroms and being moved on to Vienna, there were Brody residents among
those listed.

The material cries out to be indexed. The indexing will have to be done
in Israel at the Central Archives because efforts to have the microfilms
reproduced and sent to the US have been rejected for the moment.
Permission would have to be granted >from officials at the archives in Lviv
and there is some political sensitivity involved. Are there any Israelis
interested in taking on this indexing project?

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, MD


deciphering name of town of origin from manifest #ukraine

philafrum
 

8/31/04

Genners,

I was reviewing some manifest entries >from 1898, and I believe the Ellis
Island people incorrectly transcribed a town name. Could some of you look
at the following records and give me your opinions of the town name:

Basche, Brane, Morachem Eidelman
SS Kaiser Friedrich, Bremen to NYC on June 16, 1898
Page/Frame 0483, Lines 25-27
Series: T715, Roll 24, Volume 51
Residence listed as "Lifekany" but I think it's something like ______ kassy.

Many thanks.

Evan Fishman
ebf2001@comcast.net


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine deciphering name of town of origin from manifest #ukraine

philafrum
 

8/31/04

Genners,

I was reviewing some manifest entries >from 1898, and I believe the Ellis
Island people incorrectly transcribed a town name. Could some of you look
at the following records and give me your opinions of the town name:

Basche, Brane, Morachem Eidelman
SS Kaiser Friedrich, Bremen to NYC on June 16, 1898
Page/Frame 0483, Lines 25-27
Series: T715, Roll 24, Volume 51
Residence listed as "Lifekany" but I think it's something like ______ kassy.

Many thanks.

Evan Fishman
ebf2001@comcast.net


Where is Tenchen? #rabbinic

FAUSTINI PASCAL <pascal.faustini@...>
 

Dear Ravsiggers,

I found in our archives that a Jewish teacher called Aaron LEIB
(then, after 1808, he was called Aron POLLAK) married in 1794 in a
village called Hellimer, Lorraine, France; in the marriage act, they
wrote that he was living in a place called "Tenchen" and was born in
Poland. Who could tell me where is "Tenchen"...?

Thank you,

Pascal Faustini
Thionville, Lorraine, France


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Where is Tenchen? #rabbinic

FAUSTINI PASCAL <pascal.faustini@...>
 

Dear Ravsiggers,

I found in our archives that a Jewish teacher called Aaron LEIB
(then, after 1808, he was called Aron POLLAK) married in 1794 in a
village called Hellimer, Lorraine, France; in the marriage act, they
wrote that he was living in a place called "Tenchen" and was born in
Poland. Who could tell me where is "Tenchen"...?

Thank you,

Pascal Faustini
Thionville, Lorraine, France


Re: Any 13 year old teachers in your past? #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

Seems quite logical to me. Girls in poor families were generally not taught
in a formal manner. My grandmother used to have groups of girls come to her
house where she taught them to read the prayer book, and to write in
Yiddish. Male tutors were hired to teach sons, but there were lots of
stories of them falling in love with the boys' sisters, e.g. Peretz
Hirshbein's "Grine Felder." A thirteen year old boy who could read fluently
was a much safer and probably much cheaper tutor.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: Sheree Roth [mailto:ssroth@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 2:16 AM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Any 13 year old teachers in your past?

In analyzing a letter by my grandfather, he tells that in the old country,
Bar Mitzvah was the time that a person started to make a living. He tells
that at 13 he tutored Jewish girls, teaching them to pray and read and
write. Does anyone else have stories like this? It seems unusual that a 13
year old boy would be hired to teach the girls. Thanks for your thoughts.
Sincerely,
Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Any 13 year old teachers in your past? #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

Seems quite logical to me. Girls in poor families were generally not taught
in a formal manner. My grandmother used to have groups of girls come to her
house where she taught them to read the prayer book, and to write in
Yiddish. Male tutors were hired to teach sons, but there were lots of
stories of them falling in love with the boys' sisters, e.g. Peretz
Hirshbein's "Grine Felder." A thirteen year old boy who could read fluently
was a much safer and probably much cheaper tutor.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: Sheree Roth [mailto:ssroth@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 2:16 AM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Any 13 year old teachers in your past?

In analyzing a letter by my grandfather, he tells that in the old country,
Bar Mitzvah was the time that a person started to make a living. He tells
that at 13 he tutored Jewish girls, teaching them to pray and read and
write. Does anyone else have stories like this? It seems unusual that a 13
year old boy would be hired to teach the girls. Thanks for your thoughts.
Sincerely,
Sheree Roth
Palo Alto, CA


name indices #latvia

Joyce Field
 

In response to Lorrane Bertelsen's posting, need I tell you how eager
we would be to get lists of names >from yizkor books. Please contact
me privately if you have any yizkor material.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/


--


Latvia SIG #Latvia name indices #latvia

Joyce Field
 

In response to Lorrane Bertelsen's posting, need I tell you how eager
we would be to get lists of names >from yizkor books. Please contact
me privately if you have any yizkor material.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/


--


Re: Klonomos gever #latvia

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Theyt sent me a brief reply yesterday confirming receipt.

Many thanks for your advice - I'll tell you if I'm successful (fingers
crossed :o)

ben

-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: Klonomos gever
From: Dinberg Donna <donna.dinberg@lac-bac.gc.ca>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:14:56 -0400

E-mail works just fine to the Latvia State Historical Archives. You may
not get an immediate reply (if your query is complex, it may take a few
months); but they will reply eventually.
...snip...


Latvia SIG #Latvia RE: Klonomos gever #latvia

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Theyt sent me a brief reply yesterday confirming receipt.

Many thanks for your advice - I'll tell you if I'm successful (fingers
crossed :o)

ben

-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: Klonomos gever
From: Dinberg Donna <donna.dinberg@lac-bac.gc.ca>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:14:56 -0400

E-mail works just fine to the Latvia State Historical Archives. You may
not get an immediate reply (if your query is complex, it may take a few
months); but they will reply eventually.
...snip...


Please note new e-mail address #latvia

sradding@...
 

Please note that I have a new email address: sbradding@sbcglobal.net.
My old email was sradding@att.net.

Shirley Radding
408-246-2564


Latvia SIG #Latvia Please note new e-mail address #latvia

sradding@...
 

Please note that I have a new email address: sbradding@sbcglobal.net.
My old email was sradding@att.net.

Shirley Radding
408-246-2564