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Re: Announcements in Archived Journals #rabbinic

A. Marmorstein <mehadrin@...>
 

On 2007.12.28, I quoted the following announcement:

Beth Eked Sefarim---monthly journal for all areas of Torah study and
strengthening of the Jewish faith--- published by Rabbi Yosef Shimon
Pollak in SatuMare Romania. Vol. 9 issue 1-2 5690 (1929)

Announced on the back page----

Our Sages say: The Holy One blessed be He does not rest His presence
except upon the families of established pedigree in Israel
(Kiddushin 40) and we therefore announce that anyone who wishes to
know his ancestry for generations should contact Rabbi Chaim Dov
Gross, the head of a yeshiva in Munkacz and he will receive his
family tree. The author has already received his credentials as an
expert in the field of genealogy with his work 'Chayei Aryeh' about
the family of Rabbi Leib Tzuntz of Plock, printed at the beginning
of the book Melo Ha'omer, and [...]

Rabbin Ch. Ber Gross MUNKACEWA Slovenska
As a follow up, I assume that this is the same person as the Chaim
Yissochor GROSS who wrote a supplement named Tiferes banim Avosam as
a supplement to teh Sefer Be'er Yaakov on Orach Chaim, tracing the
ancestry of Rabbi Chayim Yaakov Kalevi Kraushar (its author) to King
David.

Rabbi Ch B GROSS, is also described as the author of Toldos
Binyamin. I do not know whether that is also a brief genealogy at
the end of a Sefer. he mentions that he was commissioned to write
Tiferes banim Avosam by Rabbi Abraham Kraushar of Brooklyn and his
brother-in-law Rabbi Shmuel Yehuda Spitzer of Munkac.

His footnotes are full of interesting observations and I will mention
just one. the MaHaRSHa - Rav Shmuel Eidlisz, author of famous Talmudic
commentary---is said to have been a descendant of Rabbi Yehuda
HaChassid. He mentions that the source is the responsa Shem Aryeh,
Yoreh Deah 27. Another source is the beginning of the Sefer Shiva
Kenei Hamenorah which lists 22 generations >from Rav Yehuda HaChassid
author of Sefer HaChasidim to MaHaRSHa. Rabbi GROSS observes that he
transcribed this list of ancestors for the author of Avos Atarah
leBanim , but pointed out that he does not think it is a valid chart
and complained that Avos Atarah lebanim reproduced the list without
mentioning that it was of dubious validity.

Rabbi Avrohom Marmorstein
New York City


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Announcements in Archived Journals #rabbinic

A. Marmorstein <mehadrin@...>
 

On 2007.12.28, I quoted the following announcement:

Beth Eked Sefarim---monthly journal for all areas of Torah study and
strengthening of the Jewish faith--- published by Rabbi Yosef Shimon
Pollak in SatuMare Romania. Vol. 9 issue 1-2 5690 (1929)

Announced on the back page----

Our Sages say: The Holy One blessed be He does not rest His presence
except upon the families of established pedigree in Israel
(Kiddushin 40) and we therefore announce that anyone who wishes to
know his ancestry for generations should contact Rabbi Chaim Dov
Gross, the head of a yeshiva in Munkacz and he will receive his
family tree. The author has already received his credentials as an
expert in the field of genealogy with his work 'Chayei Aryeh' about
the family of Rabbi Leib Tzuntz of Plock, printed at the beginning
of the book Melo Ha'omer, and [...]

Rabbin Ch. Ber Gross MUNKACEWA Slovenska
As a follow up, I assume that this is the same person as the Chaim
Yissochor GROSS who wrote a supplement named Tiferes banim Avosam as
a supplement to teh Sefer Be'er Yaakov on Orach Chaim, tracing the
ancestry of Rabbi Chayim Yaakov Kalevi Kraushar (its author) to King
David.

Rabbi Ch B GROSS, is also described as the author of Toldos
Binyamin. I do not know whether that is also a brief genealogy at
the end of a Sefer. he mentions that he was commissioned to write
Tiferes banim Avosam by Rabbi Abraham Kraushar of Brooklyn and his
brother-in-law Rabbi Shmuel Yehuda Spitzer of Munkac.

His footnotes are full of interesting observations and I will mention
just one. the MaHaRSHa - Rav Shmuel Eidlisz, author of famous Talmudic
commentary---is said to have been a descendant of Rabbi Yehuda
HaChassid. He mentions that the source is the responsa Shem Aryeh,
Yoreh Deah 27. Another source is the beginning of the Sefer Shiva
Kenei Hamenorah which lists 22 generations >from Rav Yehuda HaChassid
author of Sefer HaChasidim to MaHaRSHa. Rabbi GROSS observes that he
transcribed this list of ancestors for the author of Avos Atarah
leBanim , but pointed out that he does not think it is a valid chart
and complained that Avos Atarah lebanim reproduced the list without
mentioning that it was of dubious validity.

Rabbi Avrohom Marmorstein
New York City


ZIRNER Family from Hungary and Vienna #austria-czech

Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
 

We have collected a lot of basic info about the ZIRNER family, originally
from Bonyhad, Hungary, and prominent in Vienna. They were connected to the
ZWIEBACK family. The ZIRNER family chart is shown at
http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/ld10.htm#a0 .

I would be happy add any new family info to the website.

Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, California
with the ZWIEBACK Family Name at http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/index.htm


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech ZIRNER Family from Hungary and Vienna #austria-czech

Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
 

We have collected a lot of basic info about the ZIRNER family, originally
from Bonyhad, Hungary, and prominent in Vienna. They were connected to the
ZWIEBACK family. The ZIRNER family chart is shown at
http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/ld10.htm#a0 .

I would be happy add any new family info to the website.

Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, California
with the ZWIEBACK Family Name at http://ezwieback.com/ZFN-p/index.htm


JGS of Cleveland -- January meeting #general

Cynthia Spikell <proprius@...>
 

JGS of Cleveland meeting -- Wednesday, January 2, 2008
Place: Second floor auditorium of Menorah Park, 27100 Cedar Road,
Beachwood
Time: 7:30 p.m.
Speaker: Ken Bravo
Topic: "Computers and the Internet -- 21st Century Tools for Finding
19th Century Ancestors"
Guests are welcome.

For further information see: http://www.clevelandjgs.org/

Cynthia Spikell
1st V.P.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Cleveland -- January meeting #general

Cynthia Spikell <proprius@...>
 

JGS of Cleveland meeting -- Wednesday, January 2, 2008
Place: Second floor auditorium of Menorah Park, 27100 Cedar Road,
Beachwood
Time: 7:30 p.m.
Speaker: Ken Bravo
Topic: "Computers and the Internet -- 21st Century Tools for Finding
19th Century Ancestors"
Guests are welcome.

For further information see: http://www.clevelandjgs.org/

Cynthia Spikell
1st V.P.


New huge archive available #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

As Vladimir Salita has pointed out, there is an incredible, new
online resource:

<< The address is http://www.obd-memorial.ru/

That is an invaluable source of data on Russian (USSR) soldiers
died or disappeared during WW II compiled by Russian Defense
Department. I already checked it and found what I have been looking
for. Search by name works well. Also they show original documents as
well.>>

The original documents are incredible! Some have photographs or
fingerprints. The language is Cyrillic, German and others possibly.
If you don't have a Cyrillic keyboard option on your computer, there
is a website where you can enter the Latin characters to
transliterate the text into Cyrllic (and vice-versa) and then cut
and paste them in to the search box on the website.

The site is:

http://2cyr.com/

On the website, if your entry/surname brings up several selections,
click on each one for a separate "details" page. Highlighted in
crimson at the bottom of the page is the link that will bring up
the actual file.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@...


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia New huge archive available #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

As Vladimir Salita has pointed out, there is an incredible, new
online resource:

<< The address is http://www.obd-memorial.ru/

That is an invaluable source of data on Russian (USSR) soldiers
died or disappeared during WW II compiled by Russian Defense
Department. I already checked it and found what I have been looking
for. Search by name works well. Also they show original documents as
well.>>

The original documents are incredible! Some have photographs or
fingerprints. The language is Cyrillic, German and others possibly.
If you don't have a Cyrillic keyboard option on your computer, there
is a website where you can enter the Latin characters to
transliterate the text into Cyrllic (and vice-versa) and then cut
and paste them in to the search box on the website.

The site is:

http://2cyr.com/

On the website, if your entry/surname brings up several selections,
click on each one for a separate "details" page. Highlighted in
crimson at the bottom of the page is the link that will bring up
the actual file.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@...


PELTA #lodz #poland

Mordechai David Pelta
 

Does anyone know anything about the PELTA family >from Lodz?

I know my branch >from Konskie is related to them, but I do not know how.

Please let me know.
Thanks,

Mordechai David Pelta, Esq.
San Francisco, CA


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland PELTA #lodz #poland

Mordechai David Pelta
 

Does anyone know anything about the PELTA family >from Lodz?

I know my branch >from Konskie is related to them, but I do not know how.

Please let me know.
Thanks,

Mordechai David Pelta, Esq.
San Francisco, CA


R' Eliezer WINTNER #rabbinic

Avrofek <avrofek@...>
 

Rabbi Raphael HALPERIN in his encyclopedia Etz Hayim lists haRav
Eliezer WINTNER #2351 as one of the great rabbis of Hungary. He was
rabbi in Breif(sp!) and Av Bet Din in Shtempan (sp!). He was a
disciple of haRav Moshe Sofer.

He died in 1893 at the age of 41.

I would appreciate ANY information: scholastic, rabbinic, family,
genealogy, etc.

Thank you all.
Avraham Ofek


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic R' Eliezer WINTNER #rabbinic

Avrofek <avrofek@...>
 

Rabbi Raphael HALPERIN in his encyclopedia Etz Hayim lists haRav
Eliezer WINTNER #2351 as one of the great rabbis of Hungary. He was
rabbi in Breif(sp!) and Av Bet Din in Shtempan (sp!). He was a
disciple of haRav Moshe Sofer.

He died in 1893 at the age of 41.

I would appreciate ANY information: scholastic, rabbinic, family,
genealogy, etc.

Thank you all.
Avraham Ofek


Re: R' Avraham Yehoshua HESHEL aka Hersch Zewi KRAKAU #rabbinic

richard may
 

Dear community,

Thank you to everyone who responded to my inquiry regarding finding
information on the descendants of Rabbi Avraham Yehoshua HESHEL,
known as "Reb Heshel of Krakow"!

Richard May
Buffalo, New York, U.S.A.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: R' Avraham Yehoshua HESHEL aka Hersch Zewi KRAKAU #rabbinic

richard may
 

Dear community,

Thank you to everyone who responded to my inquiry regarding finding
information on the descendants of Rabbi Avraham Yehoshua HESHEL,
known as "Reb Heshel of Krakow"!

Richard May
Buffalo, New York, U.S.A.


Re: -ov ending on surnames #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 12/30/2007 6:53:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
dlaufer@... writes:

<< . . . HOFF is the German/Yiddish word for a
courtyard. And FRUM is Yiddish for 'religious'. So FRUMHOFF
could have been the owner of a place where some religious
activities took place.

==iI think that's most unlikely. The word for pious is fromm; it does get
slurred to frumm in some Yiddish dialects. It always refers to a person's
personal practice, not to the nature of a ceremony. Hof does mean court, and by
extension courtyard, but in surnames it is almost inevitably part of a location
name meaning farm, estate, or ducal or royal holding. The personal name
Frumm is >from the German personal name Frummet--though many would like to
believe that it is meant as a wish for piety.

== - hof or - hoffer is a quite common suffix in Jewish surnames >from
Germanic countries and is almost inevitably based on a family's geographic
origin. It is also one of those suffixes added to names to make them "more
elegant" (read "less obviously Jewish") such as - baum, -berg, -feld, -stern,
stein, etc.

==There is no connection between the Germanic hof and the central Asian -ov

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@...


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: -ov ending on surnames #sephardic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 12/30/2007 6:53:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
dlaufer@... writes:

<< . . . HOFF is the German/Yiddish word for a
courtyard. And FRUM is Yiddish for 'religious'. So FRUMHOFF
could have been the owner of a place where some religious
activities took place.

==iI think that's most unlikely. The word for pious is fromm; it does get
slurred to frumm in some Yiddish dialects. It always refers to a person's
personal practice, not to the nature of a ceremony. Hof does mean court, and by
extension courtyard, but in surnames it is almost inevitably part of a location
name meaning farm, estate, or ducal or royal holding. The personal name
Frumm is >from the German personal name Frummet--though many would like to
believe that it is meant as a wish for piety.

== - hof or - hoffer is a quite common suffix in Jewish surnames >from
Germanic countries and is almost inevitably based on a family's geographic
origin. It is also one of those suffixes added to names to make them "more
elegant" (read "less obviously Jewish") such as - baum, -berg, -feld, -stern,
stein, etc.

==There is no connection between the Germanic hof and the central Asian -ov

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@...


ZIV/SHIFF/SIEF from Seda/shad #latvia

yitzchok treisman <yitzchok1@...>
 

I'm researching the ZIV/SHIFF/SIEF family >from Seda/shad,
Does anyone have information on this family?

Yours sincerely
Yitzchak Treisman

Yitzchak Treisman
1/5 Rabbi Akiva Street
Ramat Beit Shemesh B
990083
Israel
e-mail Yitzchok1@...


Latvia SIG #Latvia ZIV/SHIFF/SIEF from Seda/shad #latvia

yitzchok treisman <yitzchok1@...>
 

I'm researching the ZIV/SHIFF/SIEF family >from Seda/shad,
Does anyone have information on this family?

Yours sincerely
Yitzchak Treisman

Yitzchak Treisman
1/5 Rabbi Akiva Street
Ramat Beit Shemesh B
990083
Israel
e-mail Yitzchok1@...


Carol Baker's resignation #lithuania

Davida Noyek Handler <dnhiowa@...>
 

Carol Baker's resignation as Siauliai District Group Coordinator is a sad
loss for LitvakSIG.

Carol has been a key player since even before the formation of LitvakSIG.
At the Boston conference in 1996, it was Carol's idea to try to get any
records we could for the Siauliai District - at a time when we didn't even
know if such an undertaking could even be possible.

When I co-founded LitvakSIG in 1997, Carol was right there beside me,
encouraging me all the way - always there with sound advice - and always a
strong shoulder to lean on. She joined the Board, became the Research
Groups Coordinator, and continued in this capacity until about two years
ago, when she turned her job over to the capable hands of Olga Zabludoff.
Carol then returned to her first love - as the Siauliai District Group
Coordinator.

Under her inspired leadership, the group has acquired, translated, and
distributed records for the Siauliai area since 1998. There are more than
50,000 records in the All Lithuania Database for the Siauliai area,
consisting of Revision Lists, Tax and Voter Lists, Rabbi Elector's Lists,
etc., etc. Thousands of other records have been distributed to contributors
that are not yet in the All Lithuania Database, but will appear there in
2008. This doesn't include the hundreds of thousands of other records that
were acquired during her tenure.

None of this would have been possible without Carol's devotion and
determination. We all owe her a debt of gratitude for the almost ten years
of her hard work. We will miss her, and we all hope that she brings the
same devotion and determination to whatever else she attempts (and indeed,
succeeds at.) There are no words to show our appreciation.

Thank you Carol, my good friend, my colleague, and my listening post for all
those years.

Davida Noyek Handler
Co-founder and Immediate Past President
LitvakSIG, Inc.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Carol Baker's resignation #lithuania

Davida Noyek Handler <dnhiowa@...>
 

Carol Baker's resignation as Siauliai District Group Coordinator is a sad
loss for LitvakSIG.

Carol has been a key player since even before the formation of LitvakSIG.
At the Boston conference in 1996, it was Carol's idea to try to get any
records we could for the Siauliai District - at a time when we didn't even
know if such an undertaking could even be possible.

When I co-founded LitvakSIG in 1997, Carol was right there beside me,
encouraging me all the way - always there with sound advice - and always a
strong shoulder to lean on. She joined the Board, became the Research
Groups Coordinator, and continued in this capacity until about two years
ago, when she turned her job over to the capable hands of Olga Zabludoff.
Carol then returned to her first love - as the Siauliai District Group
Coordinator.

Under her inspired leadership, the group has acquired, translated, and
distributed records for the Siauliai area since 1998. There are more than
50,000 records in the All Lithuania Database for the Siauliai area,
consisting of Revision Lists, Tax and Voter Lists, Rabbi Elector's Lists,
etc., etc. Thousands of other records have been distributed to contributors
that are not yet in the All Lithuania Database, but will appear there in
2008. This doesn't include the hundreds of thousands of other records that
were acquired during her tenure.

None of this would have been possible without Carol's devotion and
determination. We all owe her a debt of gratitude for the almost ten years
of her hard work. We will miss her, and we all hope that she brings the
same devotion and determination to whatever else she attempts (and indeed,
succeeds at.) There are no words to show our appreciation.

Thank you Carol, my good friend, my colleague, and my listening post for all
those years.

Davida Noyek Handler
Co-founder and Immediate Past President
LitvakSIG, Inc.