Date   

re Response to intro #germany

Eva Lawrence
 

Dear Gersig members
I have received a fantastic response to my intro, and have so far only been
able to reply personally to a few of the people who contacted me. It will
take a little while to digest it all and follow up the interesting
possibilities that have opened up.
Thank you all very much.

Eva Lawrence, St Albans UK eva.lawrence@idnet.com


German SIG #Germany re Response to intro #germany

Eva Lawrence
 

Dear Gersig members
I have received a fantastic response to my intro, and have so far only been
able to reply personally to a few of the people who contacted me. It will
take a little while to digest it all and follow up the interesting
possibilities that have opened up.
Thank you all very much.

Eva Lawrence, St Albans UK eva.lawrence@idnet.com


Genealogist researcher #ukraine

gbepy-ecomm1@...
 

Hello,
I was interested in contacting Efim Melamed, listed among the pages of this SIG for people offering genealogy services for Ukraine.
http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/towns-gubernias/volhynia/research-people/melamed.htm
The provided email bounces.   Does anyone know if he is still offering these services or have up to date contact info?
Thanks,
Gary Brown

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Your Responses to the new Facebook Page #ukraine

Ronald D. Doctor
 

A few days ago, we announced that Ukraine SIG has established a
Facebook page. This announcement produced considerable comment and
raised some important issues and misunderstandings. I believe debate
and discussion of this is important, but when remarks become rancorous
and repetitive, little is gained by continuing them. That's why our
Discussion List Moderator believed it necessary to close the thread of
discussion. Some of you have written to me complaining about this, and
I have responded to some of those complaints privately. Now, I think
it is time to deal with your concerns publicly.

Let me try to address the most important issues that some of you
have raised and clear up some misconceptions.

* First, please be assured that our Facebook page is not designed or
intended to replace anything Ukraine SIG traditionally offers its
membership. We simply will not allow it to dilute the effectiveness
of our Discussion List. As I'll discuss later, the Facebook page is
just another way to enhance our activities, and, hopefully, to bring
new people, especially young people, into Jewish genealogy.

* Indications so far are that the Facebook page is bringing new
members to the Discussion List. Many people who have signed on
to the Facebook page have not been previously involved in any
way with Ukraine SIG. In the past few days 14 new people have
registered with Ukraine SIG's Discussion List. Normally, new
registrations average about one per week. We have had more
subscription activity on the discussion group over the past week
than we had in the previous three months.

* We are actively encouraging those who post on the Facebook
page to register with JewishGen, subscribe to our Discussion
List and post the surnames/towns they are researching to
JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF).

* No one on on our Discussion List will ever be required to sign
on to Facebook or any other social or business networking site
to get information >from the SIG or any of its readers. On the
contrary, much of what we offer on this List and on our Web
site will not be readily available on the Facebook site.

* Your posts on the Discussion List and personal information
that you have provided to JewishGen and to Ukraine SIG will
not be a part of Facebook unless you explicitly choose to post
it there.

Before I describe some of the exciting things that Facebook offers, I
have to tell you that some of my associates say I am a neo-Luddite. I
don't "text". I don't even have a Smartphone (although that is coming
soon). And, until this week, I have avoided Facebook. I simply have
not gotten into social media, except to the extent that our Discussion
List may fall into that category.

Although it has limitations, Facebook offers benefits for those who
subscribe to it. As you know we post photos, maps, tables and graphics
to our website. Sometimes there is a time lag >from when these items
are first submitted to when they actually appear. Not so with
Facebook, where these materials appear as soon as they are posted.
Please don't be concerned that you will miss out on these materials if
you don't subscribe to Facebook. We will ensure that all important
content sent to Facebook also is sent to our website. Our Facebook
page is just one more place to post items of interest, which you can
read at your leisure, or when the spirit moves you.

The same applies to new research developments, films, lectures and
books of Ukraine interest. Items like these will go to our Discussion
List and our website in addition to our Facebook page.

A significant advantage of Facebook over the Discussion List is that
Facebook postings are always there, and they don't clutter your Inbox.
You can check in periodically and simply scroll down to read all the
updates and any messages you may have missed on one page. You do not
have to search the Discussion List Archives to find older messages.

Material on Facebook shows up in Google searches more frequently than
Discussion List content. This means our Facebook page can be a great
outreach tool. It can enable non-genealogists who may be curious about
their Jewish ancestors >from Ukraine to find us. Then we can lead them
to the vast resources available online at Ukraine SIG and JewishGen.

Using all the social media tools at our disposal means that we have
more and better ways to communicate with the global community of
genealogists on a daily basis. Although we hope you'll try us on
Facebook, you don't have to do that. It is your choice. If you choose
to avoid Facebook, as I did until this week, you will not miss any
substantive materials or discussions. Everything you are familiar with
still will appear on our Discussion List and on our Website.

Everything we do, including the Facebook page is brought to you at no
cost, either to Ukraine SIG or to you individually. I hope you will
understand that Facebook takes nothing away >from what Ukraine SIG has
provided in the past and will provide in the future; it is merely
another way to reach out to people searching their roots.

If you choose to respond to this message, we will continue this
discussion until it becomes too repetitive. As you craft your
response, please be considerate of the other 2,700 people who
subscribe to this List and who may not want to read the same comments
over and over.

Please keep tuned in for more exciting new developments coming from
your re-vitalized Ukraine Special Interest Group.

Ron

Ronald D. Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com)
Coordinator, JewishGen Ukraine SIG
www.jewishgen.org/ukraine

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD ... all from
Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets
and KAZDOY (KOSODOY), DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY ... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Genealogist researcher #ukraine

gbepy-ecomm1@...
 

Hello,
I was interested in contacting Efim Melamed, listed among the pages of this SIG for people offering genealogy services for Ukraine.
http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/towns-gubernias/volhynia/research-people/melamed.htm
The provided email bounces.   Does anyone know if he is still offering these services or have up to date contact info?
Thanks,
Gary Brown

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Your Responses to the new Facebook Page #ukraine

Ronald D. Doctor
 

A few days ago, we announced that Ukraine SIG has established a
Facebook page. This announcement produced considerable comment and
raised some important issues and misunderstandings. I believe debate
and discussion of this is important, but when remarks become rancorous
and repetitive, little is gained by continuing them. That's why our
Discussion List Moderator believed it necessary to close the thread of
discussion. Some of you have written to me complaining about this, and
I have responded to some of those complaints privately. Now, I think
it is time to deal with your concerns publicly.

Let me try to address the most important issues that some of you
have raised and clear up some misconceptions.

* First, please be assured that our Facebook page is not designed or
intended to replace anything Ukraine SIG traditionally offers its
membership. We simply will not allow it to dilute the effectiveness
of our Discussion List. As I'll discuss later, the Facebook page is
just another way to enhance our activities, and, hopefully, to bring
new people, especially young people, into Jewish genealogy.

* Indications so far are that the Facebook page is bringing new
members to the Discussion List. Many people who have signed on
to the Facebook page have not been previously involved in any
way with Ukraine SIG. In the past few days 14 new people have
registered with Ukraine SIG's Discussion List. Normally, new
registrations average about one per week. We have had more
subscription activity on the discussion group over the past week
than we had in the previous three months.

* We are actively encouraging those who post on the Facebook
page to register with JewishGen, subscribe to our Discussion
List and post the surnames/towns they are researching to
JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF).

* No one on on our Discussion List will ever be required to sign
on to Facebook or any other social or business networking site
to get information >from the SIG or any of its readers. On the
contrary, much of what we offer on this List and on our Web
site will not be readily available on the Facebook site.

* Your posts on the Discussion List and personal information
that you have provided to JewishGen and to Ukraine SIG will
not be a part of Facebook unless you explicitly choose to post
it there.

Before I describe some of the exciting things that Facebook offers, I
have to tell you that some of my associates say I am a neo-Luddite. I
don't "text". I don't even have a Smartphone (although that is coming
soon). And, until this week, I have avoided Facebook. I simply have
not gotten into social media, except to the extent that our Discussion
List may fall into that category.

Although it has limitations, Facebook offers benefits for those who
subscribe to it. As you know we post photos, maps, tables and graphics
to our website. Sometimes there is a time lag >from when these items
are first submitted to when they actually appear. Not so with
Facebook, where these materials appear as soon as they are posted.
Please don't be concerned that you will miss out on these materials if
you don't subscribe to Facebook. We will ensure that all important
content sent to Facebook also is sent to our website. Our Facebook
page is just one more place to post items of interest, which you can
read at your leisure, or when the spirit moves you.

The same applies to new research developments, films, lectures and
books of Ukraine interest. Items like these will go to our Discussion
List and our website in addition to our Facebook page.

A significant advantage of Facebook over the Discussion List is that
Facebook postings are always there, and they don't clutter your Inbox.
You can check in periodically and simply scroll down to read all the
updates and any messages you may have missed on one page. You do not
have to search the Discussion List Archives to find older messages.

Material on Facebook shows up in Google searches more frequently than
Discussion List content. This means our Facebook page can be a great
outreach tool. It can enable non-genealogists who may be curious about
their Jewish ancestors >from Ukraine to find us. Then we can lead them
to the vast resources available online at Ukraine SIG and JewishGen.

Using all the social media tools at our disposal means that we have
more and better ways to communicate with the global community of
genealogists on a daily basis. Although we hope you'll try us on
Facebook, you don't have to do that. It is your choice. If you choose
to avoid Facebook, as I did until this week, you will not miss any
substantive materials or discussions. Everything you are familiar with
still will appear on our Discussion List and on our Website.

Everything we do, including the Facebook page is brought to you at no
cost, either to Ukraine SIG or to you individually. I hope you will
understand that Facebook takes nothing away >from what Ukraine SIG has
provided in the past and will provide in the future; it is merely
another way to reach out to people searching their roots.

If you choose to respond to this message, we will continue this
discussion until it becomes too repetitive. As you craft your
response, please be considerate of the other 2,700 people who
subscribe to this List and who may not want to read the same comments
over and over.

Please keep tuned in for more exciting new developments coming from
your re-vitalized Ukraine Special Interest Group.

Ron

Ronald D. Doctor (rddpdx@gmail.com)
Coordinator, JewishGen Ukraine SIG
www.jewishgen.org/ukraine

Researching DOCTOR (DIOKHTER), VARER, AVERBAKH, KORENFELD ... all from
Kremenets, Oleksinets, Yampol, Vishnevets
and KAZDOY (KOSODOY), DUBINSKI, DUBOWSKY ... all >from Kiev, Uman, Odessa


Why do places in Eastern Europe (Galicia, Bailen, etc.) have the same names as places in Spain? #latvia

Stephen Weinstein
 

Galicia is a region in Spain as well as a region in what used to be
the Austrian Empire and is now mostly in Poland (but partly in
Ukraine).

The message below comments that "'Bailen' is the name of a city in
south east Spain".

Are these repeated names a coincidence?

Or did places in Eastern Europe often have the same names as places in Spain?

Was this because Jews who left Spain due to the Inquisition
(voluntarily or otherwise) and settled in Eastern Europe named the
places where they lived for places they remembered? Or did gentiles
name these places? Or is it a coincidence?

Due to immigration patterns or coincidence, geographic "theme" naming
does happen sometimes. For example, places along/near the Erie Canal
in New York State are/were named Syracuse, Utica, and Greece.

Stephen Weinstein
stephenweinstein@yahoo.com
Camarillo, CA, USA


Death records. Dvinsk. 1908 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 

You will notice, that the records for August and September are
missing. The translations are in my other computor, which has
problems. As soon as it will be repaired I shall upload them.

http://usdine.pagesperso-orange.fr/deathsdvinskninehundredeight.html

Christine Usdin


Latvia SIG #Latvia Why do places in Eastern Europe (Galicia, Bailen, etc.) have the same names as places in Spain? #latvia

Stephen Weinstein
 

Galicia is a region in Spain as well as a region in what used to be
the Austrian Empire and is now mostly in Poland (but partly in
Ukraine).

The message below comments that "'Bailen' is the name of a city in
south east Spain".

Are these repeated names a coincidence?

Or did places in Eastern Europe often have the same names as places in Spain?

Was this because Jews who left Spain due to the Inquisition
(voluntarily or otherwise) and settled in Eastern Europe named the
places where they lived for places they remembered? Or did gentiles
name these places? Or is it a coincidence?

Due to immigration patterns or coincidence, geographic "theme" naming
does happen sometimes. For example, places along/near the Erie Canal
in New York State are/were named Syracuse, Utica, and Greece.

Stephen Weinstein
stephenweinstein@yahoo.com
Camarillo, CA, USA


Latvia SIG #Latvia Death records. Dvinsk. 1908 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 

You will notice, that the records for August and September are
missing. The translations are in my other computor, which has
problems. As soon as it will be repaired I shall upload them.

http://usdine.pagesperso-orange.fr/deathsdvinskninehundredeight.html

Christine Usdin


Re: Bailen #latvia

raisele@...
 

Thank you for your help Michael; it is very much appreciated.


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Bailen #latvia

raisele@...
 

Thank you for your help Michael; it is very much appreciated.


Re: Bailen #latvia

raisele@...
 

Now that spelling is a new one ... to be added to my growing list. What I
find inexplicable is that the spelling of Bailen ... used for decades by
my uncles and mother was initially (on her birth certificate) spelled Beilin.
I have limited investigatory powers ... so I will continue ... waiting
for a "eureka" moment.


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Bailen #latvia

raisele@...
 

Now that spelling is a new one ... to be added to my growing list. What I
find inexplicable is that the spelling of Bailen ... used for decades by
my uncles and mother was initially (on her birth certificate) spelled Beilin.
I have limited investigatory powers ... so I will continue ... waiting
for a "eureka" moment.


Sunday, September 18, 2011, SFBAJGS Lecture and Meeting: Genealogical Records at the National Archives at San Francisco #general

janicemsj@...
 

San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society
Lecture and Meeting

Sunday, September 18, 2011
Congregation Beth Israel-Judea
625 Brotherhood Way
San Francisco, CA 94132
(just off the beginning of 280, next to Brandeis Hillel Day School)

Doors open 12:30 p.m.
Program begins 1:00 p.m.

Topic: Genealogical Records at the National Archives at San Francisco
Speaker: Marisa Louie

Archivist Marisa Louie of the National Archives at San Francisco will
share information about records of genealogical interest, including
the case files of Jewish refugees detained at Angel Island Immigration
Station. She will also discuss how what is available online (passenger
lists, naturalization record indices) complements the original records
available only at the Archives.

Light kosher refreshments will be served. The meeting is free and
everyone is welcome to attend. For more information visit
http://www.sfbajgs.org/.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sunday, September 18, 2011, SFBAJGS Lecture and Meeting: Genealogical Records at the National Archives at San Francisco #general

janicemsj@...
 

San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society
Lecture and Meeting

Sunday, September 18, 2011
Congregation Beth Israel-Judea
625 Brotherhood Way
San Francisco, CA 94132
(just off the beginning of 280, next to Brandeis Hillel Day School)

Doors open 12:30 p.m.
Program begins 1:00 p.m.

Topic: Genealogical Records at the National Archives at San Francisco
Speaker: Marisa Louie

Archivist Marisa Louie of the National Archives at San Francisco will
share information about records of genealogical interest, including
the case files of Jewish refugees detained at Angel Island Immigration
Station. She will also discuss how what is available online (passenger
lists, naturalization record indices) complements the original records
available only at the Archives.

Light kosher refreshments will be served. The meeting is free and
everyone is welcome to attend. For more information visit
http://www.sfbajgs.org/.


Former Community of Apolda, Thuringia, Germany #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Dear GerSIGers,

Since 2007 an association in the city of Apolda in Thuringia has been
transforming the former home and business of the Jewish PRAGER Family
into a place of learning and meeting. More about this group and its
activity can be found at the address

www.prager-haus-apolda.de <http://www.prager-haus-apolda.de/>

The fate of a number Apolda's former Jewish residents has been
established and a number of so-called tripping stones have been put in
place. Now the project seeks to learn more about these people, their
families, and others whose fate is not yet clear. (See the following list.)

If you have more details of any of these people, send information, in
German if possible or clearly written English, to:

peter.franz.taubach@gmx.de <mailto:peter.franz.taubach@gmx.de>

Search for relatives of former Jews >from Apolda in Thuringia:

MOSER Rudi, Dr., *1898-04-06; died 1979-04-15, Brisbane Australia
ROSEWITZ Alfred, * 1907-03-04; died 2010-11-01, Johannesburg South Africa
ROSEWITZ Max ROSEWITZ Nelly married name ZANDERS, * 1913-10-10 Snowrazlaw
ROSEWITZ Siegbert
ZIMBALISTA Schulem is said to have emigrated to Buenos Aires
STORCH Egon is said to have emigrated to England?
STORCH Arno is said to have emigrated to Barcelona?
STORCH Hilde married name WALLACH
BUKOFZER Gustav emigrated to Haifa
GLASER Arthur is said to have emigrated to New York?
GLASER Wilhelm is said to have emigrated to New York?
GUTMANN Hans is said to have emigrated to New York?
GUTMANN Jeanne is said to have emigrated to New York?
HOFMANN Max is said to have emigrated to New York?
HOFMANN Willy, HOFMANN Hildegard, married name Sichel HOFMANN and Inge
HOFMANN Siegfried
JACOB Julius, * 1890-08-31 Gie=DFen, is said to have emigrated to
Sacramento, California
KRISCH Leopold, * 1885-03-03 Rogowo, is said to have emigrated to the
USA or South America?
KRISCH Erna, maiden name GUTH, is said to have emigrated to the USA our
South America?
NORDHEIMER Olga, maiden name BUCHMANN, * 1913-05-17 N=FCrnberg, is said to
have emigrated to Pal=E4stina?
NORDHEIMER Werner, * 1909-08-28 Niedermarsberg, is said to have
emigrated to Palestine?
SALINGER Ernst, is said to have emigrated to New York?
SALINGER Anna, married name HIRSCHEL, is said to have emigrated to
Temuco, Chile?
ABER Adolf, DR. phil., * 1893 Apolda, died in 1960 in London
RECHTMANN Thadd=E4us, * 1913-08-20 Leipzig, is said to have emigrated to
Palestine
ZUCKER Leo, * 1910-03-23
BRAUNSCHILD Lothar, * 1879-05-02 Gaukoenigshofen bei Ochsenfurth
BRAUNSCHILD Rosa, maiden name WEISS
FLEISCHMANN Herbert, * 1910-07-31, died in 1981 in Frankfurt/Main

Peter Franz, Apolda, Thuringia, Germany


German SIG #Germany Former Community of Apolda, Thuringia, Germany #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Dear GerSIGers,

Since 2007 an association in the city of Apolda in Thuringia has been
transforming the former home and business of the Jewish PRAGER Family
into a place of learning and meeting. More about this group and its
activity can be found at the address

www.prager-haus-apolda.de <http://www.prager-haus-apolda.de/>

The fate of a number Apolda's former Jewish residents has been
established and a number of so-called tripping stones have been put in
place. Now the project seeks to learn more about these people, their
families, and others whose fate is not yet clear. (See the following list.)

If you have more details of any of these people, send information, in
German if possible or clearly written English, to:

peter.franz.taubach@gmx.de <mailto:peter.franz.taubach@gmx.de>

Search for relatives of former Jews >from Apolda in Thuringia:

MOSER Rudi, Dr., *1898-04-06; died 1979-04-15, Brisbane Australia
ROSEWITZ Alfred, * 1907-03-04; died 2010-11-01, Johannesburg South Africa
ROSEWITZ Max ROSEWITZ Nelly married name ZANDERS, * 1913-10-10 Snowrazlaw
ROSEWITZ Siegbert
ZIMBALISTA Schulem is said to have emigrated to Buenos Aires
STORCH Egon is said to have emigrated to England?
STORCH Arno is said to have emigrated to Barcelona?
STORCH Hilde married name WALLACH
BUKOFZER Gustav emigrated to Haifa
GLASER Arthur is said to have emigrated to New York?
GLASER Wilhelm is said to have emigrated to New York?
GUTMANN Hans is said to have emigrated to New York?
GUTMANN Jeanne is said to have emigrated to New York?
HOFMANN Max is said to have emigrated to New York?
HOFMANN Willy, HOFMANN Hildegard, married name Sichel HOFMANN and Inge
HOFMANN Siegfried
JACOB Julius, * 1890-08-31 Gie=DFen, is said to have emigrated to
Sacramento, California
KRISCH Leopold, * 1885-03-03 Rogowo, is said to have emigrated to the
USA or South America?
KRISCH Erna, maiden name GUTH, is said to have emigrated to the USA our
South America?
NORDHEIMER Olga, maiden name BUCHMANN, * 1913-05-17 N=FCrnberg, is said to
have emigrated to Pal=E4stina?
NORDHEIMER Werner, * 1909-08-28 Niedermarsberg, is said to have
emigrated to Palestine?
SALINGER Ernst, is said to have emigrated to New York?
SALINGER Anna, married name HIRSCHEL, is said to have emigrated to
Temuco, Chile?
ABER Adolf, DR. phil., * 1893 Apolda, died in 1960 in London
RECHTMANN Thadd=E4us, * 1913-08-20 Leipzig, is said to have emigrated to
Palestine
ZUCKER Leo, * 1910-03-23
BRAUNSCHILD Lothar, * 1879-05-02 Gaukoenigshofen bei Ochsenfurth
BRAUNSCHILD Rosa, maiden name WEISS
FLEISCHMANN Herbert, * 1910-07-31, died in 1981 in Frankfurt/Main

Peter Franz, Apolda, Thuringia, Germany


Looking for Researcher for Kirovograd (Elisavetgrad) #ukraine

Linda Shefler
 

Has anyone used a researcher for Kirovograd that they would recommend? I
have a lot of family >from there and am finally ready to take the next step
and hire a researcher. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.
Linda Silverman Shefler
Hod Ha Sharon
linda.shefler@gmail.com

Moderator's Note - private responses please


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Looking for Researcher for Kirovograd (Elisavetgrad) #ukraine

Linda Shefler
 

Has anyone used a researcher for Kirovograd that they would recommend? I
have a lot of family >from there and am finally ready to take the next step
and hire a researcher. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.
Linda Silverman Shefler
Hod Ha Sharon
linda.shefler@gmail.com

Moderator's Note - private responses please

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