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Re: Low Contrast Gravestone photos #general

Roger Harris <rwsh@...>
 

John Lowens (JPLowens@aol.com) wrote:
: <<< With the sun nearly overhead, I took color
: photos >from several angles in an attempt to capture a legible image.
: Unfortunately the stone is a grayish granite and the photos have little
: contrast. Can anyone suggest a way to print, copy or otherwise extract
: an image with greater contrast?>>>

Use a grease crayon and paper in the same way as one would when making a
brass rubbing. Then photograph the paper. You may even discover details
which might otherwise not be revealed in a photograph.

Some years ago there was a thread on s.g.j on the same subject and there
were suggestions of highlighting the engraving with graphite or shaving soap.
Both these methods were criticised by chemists as being injurious to
gravestones.

Roger Harris


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Low Contrast Gravestone photos #general

Roger Harris <rwsh@...>
 

John Lowens (JPLowens@aol.com) wrote:
: <<< With the sun nearly overhead, I took color
: photos >from several angles in an attempt to capture a legible image.
: Unfortunately the stone is a grayish granite and the photos have little
: contrast. Can anyone suggest a way to print, copy or otherwise extract
: an image with greater contrast?>>>

Use a grease crayon and paper in the same way as one would when making a
brass rubbing. Then photograph the paper. You may even discover details
which might otherwise not be revealed in a photograph.

Some years ago there was a thread on s.g.j on the same subject and there
were suggestions of highlighting the engraving with graphite or shaving soap.
Both these methods were criticised by chemists as being injurious to
gravestones.

Roger Harris


ZACH, Clara, looking for family of; born in Roumania #general

Albertede@...
 

I Hope you can help me locate any family of the late Clara ZACH,
born around 1923 in Roumania, province of Bukvenia. Father was
Paul Zach, Pinhas Leib in hebrew, who was born in Poland. Mother
was Molly SCHIRER.
If you have any information or advice please e-mail me at
albert.ede@aol.com

Thanks Albert Edey


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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ZACH, Clara, looking for family of; born in Roumania #general

Albertede@...
 

I Hope you can help me locate any family of the late Clara ZACH,
born around 1923 in Roumania, province of Bukvenia. Father was
Paul Zach, Pinhas Leib in hebrew, who was born in Poland. Mother
was Molly SCHIRER.
If you have any information or advice please e-mail me at
albert.ede@aol.com

Thanks Albert Edey


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Subject line in JRI-Poland posts #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

As you know, there is a new software program being used to manage
JewishGen and all the mailing lists under JewishGen.

So, while you are getting used to the new look of JRI - Poland messages,
I would ask you to always keep something in mind which will be helpful
to your fellow readers of this list:

Whether replying to an individually received message or one that was part
of a JRI-Poland digest, the Subject Line should always have the subject
from the original message, not: [jri-pl] Re: jri-pl digest: August 04, 1998
Thank you

Stanley Diamond
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JRI Poland #Poland Subject line in JRI-Poland posts #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

As you know, there is a new software program being used to manage
JewishGen and all the mailing lists under JewishGen.

So, while you are getting used to the new look of JRI - Poland messages,
I would ask you to always keep something in mind which will be helpful
to your fellow readers of this list:

Whether replying to an individually received message or one that was part
of a JRI-Poland digest, the Subject Line should always have the subject
from the original message, not: [jri-pl] Re: jri-pl digest: August 04, 1998
Thank you

Stanley Diamond
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Jews of Majorca #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

Have you heard of somebody who has studdied the history of the
Jews of Majorca who lived there in endogamy since the Inquisition ?
>
Micheline GUTMANN
Yes, there are several scholars today both in USA and in Israel who are
working on the Jews in the Balearic Islands. I know someone living in
Israel who runs a small Institute on the Marranos. She and her husband
have a house on Ibiza, and in recent years they have gone there every Pesah
to make a Seder for locals who while no longer officially Jews know
themselves to be descended >from the conversos (crypto-Jews) of the time of
the Inquisition and are very interested to learn about their origins. She
does lecture tours with slides in USA >from time to time. It's absolutely
fascinating. I think she has done some specific stuff on Jews of Majorca,
and she can certainly tell you who else has.

If you contact her by e-mail she can inform you about her work, and also
about who in America is working on the Jews of Majorca. Please reply to me
directly if you would like her e-mail address.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jews of Majorca #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Dear Jewishgenners,

Have you heard of somebody who has studdied the history of the
Jews of Majorca who lived there in endogamy since the Inquisition ?
>
Micheline GUTMANN
Yes, there are several scholars today both in USA and in Israel who are
working on the Jews in the Balearic Islands. I know someone living in
Israel who runs a small Institute on the Marranos. She and her husband
have a house on Ibiza, and in recent years they have gone there every Pesah
to make a Seder for locals who while no longer officially Jews know
themselves to be descended >from the conversos (crypto-Jews) of the time of
the Inquisition and are very interested to learn about their origins. She
does lecture tours with slides in USA >from time to time. It's absolutely
fascinating. I think she has done some specific stuff on Jews of Majorca,
and she can certainly tell you who else has.

If you contact her by e-mail she can inform you about her work, and also
about who in America is working on the Jews of Majorca. Please reply to me
directly if you would like her e-mail address.

Judith Romney Wegner
jrw@brown.edu


SEARCHING: Rabbi Meir -Eliezer HARTSHTEIN-RAPAPORT #general

Avraham Steiner <steinera@...>
 

I am looking for information about
Rabbi Meir -Eliezer Hartshtein-Rapaport
of Frankfurt Germany in the end of the 19 century; He is the son of
Rabbi Avraham Abali >from Ihal who wrote the book/manuscript "Kol omer
kra"
Rabbi Avraham Abali's father was Rabbi Pinchas-Arie Sameater >from Ihal
who died in 19.4.1843.

Rabbi Meir -Eliezer Hartshtein-Rapaport wrote a book/manuscript named:
"Beit avot" which I did not find in the national library in Jerusalem
as well as other magor libraries in the US.

If any one knows more about this family or one can find the book
mentioned above Please let me know

Thanks
Hanan Rapaport

Via:
Avraham Steiner
steinera@moc.gov.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SEARCHING: Rabbi Meir -Eliezer HARTSHTEIN-RAPAPORT #general

Avraham Steiner <steinera@...>
 

I am looking for information about
Rabbi Meir -Eliezer Hartshtein-Rapaport
of Frankfurt Germany in the end of the 19 century; He is the son of
Rabbi Avraham Abali >from Ihal who wrote the book/manuscript "Kol omer
kra"
Rabbi Avraham Abali's father was Rabbi Pinchas-Arie Sameater >from Ihal
who died in 19.4.1843.

Rabbi Meir -Eliezer Hartshtein-Rapaport wrote a book/manuscript named:
"Beit avot" which I did not find in the national library in Jerusalem
as well as other magor libraries in the US.

If any one knows more about this family or one can find the book
mentioned above Please let me know

Thanks
Hanan Rapaport

Via:
Avraham Steiner
steinera@moc.gov.il


Litvak Immigrants to U.S. #lithuania

Charlene D Lipkus <cdlipkus@...>
 

Hello Fellow Litvaks,

I recently joined this mailing list and it is the first forum
specifically for Litvaks which I have found thus far.
It has only been for the past few years that I have been studying
Lithuanian history, in particular the part dealing with Jewish culture in
that area of Eastern Europe.
Last year, I subscribed to a mailing list for Lithuanian genealogy
and was able to discuss the role of Jewish ancestors with the list
members... Many of us had similar stories to share; a great number of us
had suspicions that our Lithuanian immigrant ancestors were Jewish and
that, for some reason, they either hid or lost their Jewishness upon
immigrating to the United States.
Now, I am aware that this is both a confusing and sensitive topic,
however I am greatly interested in finding out more about such phenomena
because of my own family story:
My grandfather (who died before I was born) immigrated to the U.S.
from Lithuania in the early 1900's (obviously before WWII) and his
original surname was Lipkiewicz-- later changed to "Lipkus." He spoke
seven languages fluently-- as many >from Eastern Europe did-- one of which
being Hebrew or Yiddish. My grandfather met, fell in love with, and
married my French Canadian, Catholic grandmother and their children
(including my father) were then all raised at Catholics. (As per the
tradition of children taking the mother's religion?) Neither of my
grandparents spoke English as a first language, they were both first
generation immigrants to the U.S., and the details as to what went on
during the melding of their two cultures through marriage is obviously
unknown to me. (I am a 23-year-old graduate student who is researching
this topic with little help >from my family.)
What peaked my interest as to whether or not my grandfather was in
fact a "Litvak" is this poignant, sensitive, confusing, and
thought-provoking family story:
Apparently, while my grandfather was on his death bed, dying
from--I believe-- Parkinson's disease-- he started mumbling something to
himself in Hebrew. The doctor then entered the waiting room and told my
mother, "Mrs. Lipkus, I think you better call your Rabbi; your
father-in-law is dying." My mother then said, "Rabbi? But... he's
Catholic?!"
Being raised Catholic myself, I do not know many details about
Judaism. I only recently learned about Kaddish and other Jewish prayers
for the dead of dying. I've pondered endlessly as to what could have gone
on during the course of Lithuanian history, during the course of my
grandather's own life and in his process of immigration, and also what
went on during my grandparent's marriage that could have possibly led my
grandfather to possibly cover or lose contact with his religion.
If anyone has input of information for me, please respond. I have
been researching the topic of Lithuanian Jews for some time now and still
can't piece everthing together. I'd appreciate any feedback.

Thank you very much,

Charlene D. Lipkus <cdlipkus@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Buffalo, NY
USA


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Litvak Immigrants to U.S. #lithuania

Charlene D Lipkus <cdlipkus@...>
 

Hello Fellow Litvaks,

I recently joined this mailing list and it is the first forum
specifically for Litvaks which I have found thus far.
It has only been for the past few years that I have been studying
Lithuanian history, in particular the part dealing with Jewish culture in
that area of Eastern Europe.
Last year, I subscribed to a mailing list for Lithuanian genealogy
and was able to discuss the role of Jewish ancestors with the list
members... Many of us had similar stories to share; a great number of us
had suspicions that our Lithuanian immigrant ancestors were Jewish and
that, for some reason, they either hid or lost their Jewishness upon
immigrating to the United States.
Now, I am aware that this is both a confusing and sensitive topic,
however I am greatly interested in finding out more about such phenomena
because of my own family story:
My grandfather (who died before I was born) immigrated to the U.S.
from Lithuania in the early 1900's (obviously before WWII) and his
original surname was Lipkiewicz-- later changed to "Lipkus." He spoke
seven languages fluently-- as many >from Eastern Europe did-- one of which
being Hebrew or Yiddish. My grandfather met, fell in love with, and
married my French Canadian, Catholic grandmother and their children
(including my father) were then all raised at Catholics. (As per the
tradition of children taking the mother's religion?) Neither of my
grandparents spoke English as a first language, they were both first
generation immigrants to the U.S., and the details as to what went on
during the melding of their two cultures through marriage is obviously
unknown to me. (I am a 23-year-old graduate student who is researching
this topic with little help >from my family.)
What peaked my interest as to whether or not my grandfather was in
fact a "Litvak" is this poignant, sensitive, confusing, and
thought-provoking family story:
Apparently, while my grandfather was on his death bed, dying
from--I believe-- Parkinson's disease-- he started mumbling something to
himself in Hebrew. The doctor then entered the waiting room and told my
mother, "Mrs. Lipkus, I think you better call your Rabbi; your
father-in-law is dying." My mother then said, "Rabbi? But... he's
Catholic?!"
Being raised Catholic myself, I do not know many details about
Judaism. I only recently learned about Kaddish and other Jewish prayers
for the dead of dying. I've pondered endlessly as to what could have gone
on during the course of Lithuanian history, during the course of my
grandather's own life and in his process of immigration, and also what
went on during my grandparent's marriage that could have possibly led my
grandfather to possibly cover or lose contact with his religion.
If anyone has input of information for me, please respond. I have
been researching the topic of Lithuanian Jews for some time now and still
can't piece everthing together. I'd appreciate any feedback.

Thank you very much,

Charlene D. Lipkus <cdlipkus@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Buffalo, NY
USA


Re: jri-pl digest: August 04, 1998 #poland

Algaze@...
 

Dear Geoff:

Posen is the name of the city when it was Germany territory.
It's present, Polish, name is Poznan.

It is located approximately 52 degrees, 25 minutes North/
16 degrees, 53 minutes East.
It is located in the Grand Duchy of Posen.

It is a pretty big town; it even has its own web site:

http://www.umig.szamotuly.pl/geografia.htm

You can see it on an internet map of the area >from the 1800's
(with the old, German, names) if you go to the web site of the
Federation of East European Family History Societies at:

http://feefhs.org

then go to the MAP ROOM

and click on to the section called POSEN. (I'm not sure about this last
part--it might be POLAND, or GERMANY first, and then POSEN.)

There is a book that might be helpful to you: It is called "The Naturalized
Jews of the Grand Duchy of Posen in 1834 and 1835" by Edward David Luft.
This book lists a large number of Jews who were naturalized in that town
at that time. If your ancestors were there at this time, you MIGHT find their
names on this list.

You may be able to find a copy of this book at your local library. If they
don't
have it, they may be able to obtain it for you through an inter-library loan

Good luck in your search.

Barbara Algaze
Algaze@aol.com
Los Angeles, California

(SEARCHING NAMES: COHN, HAUSDORF, KANTOROWITZ/KANTOROWICZ, PINCUS, SEELIG,
KRONHEIM, TREUENFELZ)


<< Subject: Information
From: "Geoff Shrimski" <scuba@intercoast.com.au>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 07:54:55 +1000
X-Message-Number: 3

Could you please tell me where Posen is in Poland, if that is the =
correct spelling. My family apparently originated >from Posen and I can't =
find any information, or locate this place.

Many thanks !

Kind regards


JRI Poland #Poland Re: jri-pl digest: August 04, 1998 #poland

Algaze@...
 

Dear Geoff:

Posen is the name of the city when it was Germany territory.
It's present, Polish, name is Poznan.

It is located approximately 52 degrees, 25 minutes North/
16 degrees, 53 minutes East.
It is located in the Grand Duchy of Posen.

It is a pretty big town; it even has its own web site:

http://www.umig.szamotuly.pl/geografia.htm

You can see it on an internet map of the area >from the 1800's
(with the old, German, names) if you go to the web site of the
Federation of East European Family History Societies at:

http://feefhs.org

then go to the MAP ROOM

and click on to the section called POSEN. (I'm not sure about this last
part--it might be POLAND, or GERMANY first, and then POSEN.)

There is a book that might be helpful to you: It is called "The Naturalized
Jews of the Grand Duchy of Posen in 1834 and 1835" by Edward David Luft.
This book lists a large number of Jews who were naturalized in that town
at that time. If your ancestors were there at this time, you MIGHT find their
names on this list.

You may be able to find a copy of this book at your local library. If they
don't
have it, they may be able to obtain it for you through an inter-library loan

Good luck in your search.

Barbara Algaze
Algaze@aol.com
Los Angeles, California

(SEARCHING NAMES: COHN, HAUSDORF, KANTOROWITZ/KANTOROWICZ, PINCUS, SEELIG,
KRONHEIM, TREUENFELZ)


<< Subject: Information
From: "Geoff Shrimski" <scuba@intercoast.com.au>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 07:54:55 +1000
X-Message-Number: 3

Could you please tell me where Posen is in Poland, if that is the =
correct spelling. My family apparently originated >from Posen and I can't =
find any information, or locate this place.

Many thanks !

Kind regards


Seeking KAPLAN, USLAN, PRESSMAN, RABINOWITZ #belarus

Diane Frankel <dfrankel@...>
 

I am researching:
KAPLAN >from Minsk
USLAN >from Uzlany (about 40 mi. SE of Minsk)
PRESSMAN >from Vileyka
RABINOWITZ with variant spellings >from Vileyka

Diane FRANKEL
North Miami Beach, FL
dfrankel@icanect.net


Belarus SIG #Belarus Seeking KAPLAN, USLAN, PRESSMAN, RABINOWITZ #belarus

Diane Frankel <dfrankel@...>
 

I am researching:
KAPLAN >from Minsk
USLAN >from Uzlany (about 40 mi. SE of Minsk)
PRESSMAN >from Vileyka
RABINOWITZ with variant spellings >from Vileyka

Diane FRANKEL
North Miami Beach, FL
dfrankel@icanect.net


Search: RELLES,MINDLIN,PUCH,ZUGMAN,DOLINER #general

Howard M. Relles <rellesh@...>
 

Searching for Relles and Doliner (>from eastern Galicia) and Mindlin,
Puch, and Zugman (>from Belarus)
Dr. Howard M. Relles
Schenectady, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Search: RELLES,MINDLIN,PUCH,ZUGMAN,DOLINER #general

Howard M. Relles <rellesh@...>
 

Searching for Relles and Doliner (>from eastern Galicia) and Mindlin,
Puch, and Zugman (>from Belarus)
Dr. Howard M. Relles
Schenectady, NY


Teach the Novices #lithuania

Medical3D@...
 

I continue to be disappointed by the amount of bile that flows through
LitvakSIG. . I am not referring to the off-subject posting fiasco of a few
weeks ago, but rather to the way some novices have been treated by at least
two core members of the LitvakSIG.

Sure, unrealistic and zealous ideas >from novices are not always enjoyable to
deal with. But every single one of us was there once. If someone is wrong, we
should explain why in way that would benefit the readers. Never should we
discourage asking pertinent questions or making earnest suggestions.

John Miller's translation of the proceedings >from the 1996 "Jews of Anyksciai
Conference" features a speaker complaining about "the Jewish need to
contradict". My thought was that this guy just might have a point. One of
our less admirable cultural traits is the tendency to believe that we rack up
"points" for being right- often at the expense of others. I sure hate to see
ugly stereotypes being perpetuated by our own actions.

The novices need to be taught, coached, and otherwise gently nudged into
reality. It is only with their energies and talents that we will continue to
thrive.

-Bret Schneider
Portola Valley, California

Researching:
SCHNEIDER, FRIEDMAN >from Anyksciai (Lithuania)
TANEFSKY >from Pilviskai, Marijampole (Lithuania)
GEDALKA >from Lagow (Poland)
SHAFFER >from Bodzentyn, Kielce (Poland), Chicago (USA)
HANDELSMAN >from Poland
Also specifically searching for:
Harry Tanner and son Eddie Tanner of Los Angeles (circa 1945)
Chana "Anna" Gedalka Shapiro of Brooklyn (circa 1955)
"Mrs. Barnett Silverman" (maiden name Tanefsky) of New York, (circa 1948)


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Teach the Novices #lithuania

Medical3D@...
 

I continue to be disappointed by the amount of bile that flows through
LitvakSIG. . I am not referring to the off-subject posting fiasco of a few
weeks ago, but rather to the way some novices have been treated by at least
two core members of the LitvakSIG.

Sure, unrealistic and zealous ideas >from novices are not always enjoyable to
deal with. But every single one of us was there once. If someone is wrong, we
should explain why in way that would benefit the readers. Never should we
discourage asking pertinent questions or making earnest suggestions.

John Miller's translation of the proceedings >from the 1996 "Jews of Anyksciai
Conference" features a speaker complaining about "the Jewish need to
contradict". My thought was that this guy just might have a point. One of
our less admirable cultural traits is the tendency to believe that we rack up
"points" for being right- often at the expense of others. I sure hate to see
ugly stereotypes being perpetuated by our own actions.

The novices need to be taught, coached, and otherwise gently nudged into
reality. It is only with their energies and talents that we will continue to
thrive.

-Bret Schneider
Portola Valley, California

Researching:
SCHNEIDER, FRIEDMAN >from Anyksciai (Lithuania)
TANEFSKY >from Pilviskai, Marijampole (Lithuania)
GEDALKA >from Lagow (Poland)
SHAFFER >from Bodzentyn, Kielce (Poland), Chicago (USA)
HANDELSMAN >from Poland
Also specifically searching for:
Harry Tanner and son Eddie Tanner of Los Angeles (circa 1945)
Chana "Anna" Gedalka Shapiro of Brooklyn (circa 1955)
"Mrs. Barnett Silverman" (maiden name Tanefsky) of New York, (circa 1948)