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Hart Family #unitedkingdom

Hazel Smith <hazel@...>
 

I am trying to find any details of my Great Great Grandfather, John Henry
Hart, who was born in Shoreditch or Hoxton in 1932. I believe his family
were of the Jewish faith although I am not Jewish myself.

from my Great Grandfather's birth certificate, Alexander La Tour Hart, John
Henry Hart was a Commercial Clerk married to Sarah Bews formerly Grier and
lived in
Bermondsey, Surrey.

from the 1861 Census I have found a John Hart age 29 married to Sarah,
Profession Baker, living at 165, Hoxton Town but am not sure if this is the
right person.

If anyone could anyone help me with the Hart Family, I would be most
grateful.

Regards
Hazel Smith


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Hart Family #unitedkingdom

Hazel Smith <hazel@...>
 

I am trying to find any details of my Great Great Grandfather, John Henry
Hart, who was born in Shoreditch or Hoxton in 1932. I believe his family
were of the Jewish faith although I am not Jewish myself.

from my Great Grandfather's birth certificate, Alexander La Tour Hart, John
Henry Hart was a Commercial Clerk married to Sarah Bews formerly Grier and
lived in
Bermondsey, Surrey.

from the 1861 Census I have found a John Hart age 29 married to Sarah,
Profession Baker, living at 165, Hoxton Town but am not sure if this is the
right person.

If anyone could anyone help me with the Hart Family, I would be most
grateful.

Regards
Hazel Smith


Re: Latvian Archives Question #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

I think that you mean they lived in the Province of Vitebsk (Vitebsk
Gubernia) which is now Latgale region of Latvia. Looking at the names
of the shtetlach that you are researching such as Preili, and Ludza
then some of the records are in the Latvian State Historical Archives
and some may be found in Belarus. Your initial request should go to
the Latvian State Historical Archives.
There is a lot of data in the All Latvia Database for Daugavpils which
is close to Preili and also for Ludza. There are cemetery data in the
Jewishgen cemetery database for Ludza.
Check both the All Latvia Database and the Belarus Database and send
complete details of your family to the Archivists.

Arlene Beare
UK

Originalmessage
If my family lived (up until the early 1900s)in the part of Belarus that is
now Latvia, would I find archival records for them in Latvia or in Belarus?

Rochelle Gershenow
Potomac, MD
USA

Searching: AKINSKY/AGINSKY (Belarus); CHAIKIN (Priluki or Priluki area,
Ukraine); GERIS (Belarus); LECKERMAN/LAKERMAN (Podelski or Priluki, Ukraine;
or Pennsylvania, USA); LIFSCHITZ (Podelski or Priluki, Ukraine); SLONIMSKY
(Minsk, Belarus)or SLONIM (USA); SONDEK/SUNDOCK/SUNDACK (Lutzin, Belarus;
Ludza, Latvia; USA); PURINSON/PURINZON/PURRINSON (Priluki,Ukraine;
Argentina; Israel; USA); SOKOLOFF (Priluki or Priluki area, Ukraine)


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Latvian Archives Question #latvia

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

I think that you mean they lived in the Province of Vitebsk (Vitebsk
Gubernia) which is now Latgale region of Latvia. Looking at the names
of the shtetlach that you are researching such as Preili, and Ludza
then some of the records are in the Latvian State Historical Archives
and some may be found in Belarus. Your initial request should go to
the Latvian State Historical Archives.
There is a lot of data in the All Latvia Database for Daugavpils which
is close to Preili and also for Ludza. There are cemetery data in the
Jewishgen cemetery database for Ludza.
Check both the All Latvia Database and the Belarus Database and send
complete details of your family to the Archivists.

Arlene Beare
UK

Originalmessage
If my family lived (up until the early 1900s)in the part of Belarus that is
now Latvia, would I find archival records for them in Latvia or in Belarus?

Rochelle Gershenow
Potomac, MD
USA

Searching: AKINSKY/AGINSKY (Belarus); CHAIKIN (Priluki or Priluki area,
Ukraine); GERIS (Belarus); LECKERMAN/LAKERMAN (Podelski or Priluki, Ukraine;
or Pennsylvania, USA); LIFSCHITZ (Podelski or Priluki, Ukraine); SLONIMSKY
(Minsk, Belarus)or SLONIM (USA); SONDEK/SUNDOCK/SUNDACK (Lutzin, Belarus;
Ludza, Latvia; USA); PURINSON/PURINZON/PURRINSON (Priluki,Ukraine;
Argentina; Israel; USA); SOKOLOFF (Priluki or Priluki area, Ukraine)


K.U.K #hungary

Georges Graner
 

Hi,
May I add my modest contribution to the many interesting messages of H-Sig ?
Yesterday, Robert Neu surprised me because he gave a bad translation of
K.U.K.
This means Kaiserliches und Königlisches, i.e. Imperial and Royal.
Don't forget that Franz-Jozef was at the same time Emperor of Austria and
King of Hungary. Therefore, any organization covering the whole
Austro-Hungarian domain would be called K.U.K.


Georges GRANER (Paris, France)
georges.graner@...
Webmaster of Cercle de Généalogie Juive www.genealoj.org


Budapest Holocaust Memorial Center #hungary

levinson <levinson@...>
 

According the memorial pages that I took >from the Budapest Holocaust
Memorial Center the address is: H-1094 Budapest Pava Utca 39. Do not
hesitate to write them!

Esther Levinson
Israel
Researching: Hochfelder, Neumann, Baum, Weiler and Mandel


k.and k. #hungary

Tsvi Sinai <t_sinai1@...>
 

k. und k. means " Koenigliche und Kaiserliche " (or vice versa ) " Royal
and Emperal "

Tsvi Sinai, Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary K.U.K #hungary

Georges Graner
 

Hi,
May I add my modest contribution to the many interesting messages of H-Sig ?
Yesterday, Robert Neu surprised me because he gave a bad translation of
K.U.K.
This means Kaiserliches und Königlisches, i.e. Imperial and Royal.
Don't forget that Franz-Jozef was at the same time Emperor of Austria and
King of Hungary. Therefore, any organization covering the whole
Austro-Hungarian domain would be called K.U.K.


Georges GRANER (Paris, France)
georges.graner@...
Webmaster of Cercle de Généalogie Juive www.genealoj.org


Hungary SIG #Hungary Budapest Holocaust Memorial Center #hungary

levinson <levinson@...>
 

According the memorial pages that I took >from the Budapest Holocaust
Memorial Center the address is: H-1094 Budapest Pava Utca 39. Do not
hesitate to write them!

Esther Levinson
Israel
Researching: Hochfelder, Neumann, Baum, Weiler and Mandel


Hungary SIG #Hungary k.and k. #hungary

Tsvi Sinai <t_sinai1@...>
 

k. und k. means " Koenigliche und Kaiserliche " (or vice versa ) " Royal
and Emperal "

Tsvi Sinai, Israel


Re: Dachau database #general

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

I found someone listed on it who I know died deep in Russia after being
arrested in Poland and sent there by the Russians. They never saw the
Nazis at all. They were listed by an "acquaintance" who just go it
wrong. You have to realize that the database is not factual. In many
instances people made assumptions when they filled out the forms.

Tilford

Compupix wrote:

The Yad Vashem database lists some people that survived.
http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome

Drew Faber
Long Beach, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Dachau database #general

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

I found someone listed on it who I know died deep in Russia after being
arrested in Poland and sent there by the Russians. They never saw the
Nazis at all. They were listed by an "acquaintance" who just go it
wrong. You have to realize that the database is not factual. In many
instances people made assumptions when they filled out the forms.

Tilford

Compupix wrote:

The Yad Vashem database lists some people that survived.
http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome

Drew Faber
Long Beach, CA


Assimilating and Fabricating Immigrants #general

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Dear Rebecca and group,

I am curious how many others out there have had this experience of “finding
out” a relative who claimed they were >from someplace other than they really
were.

That certainly rings a bell for me. My mother's oldest sister (there
were 9 children), and her oldest brother, were both born in Europe
before my grandparents emigrated to America. In the 1900 census, when
she was 6 years old, my aunt's birthplace was listed as "Austria." In
the 1920 census, however, she is listed as being born in "Massachusetts."

Shortly before her death, my mother confirmed this -- telling me it was a
***Great Secret***! The woman's own son had not a clue that his mother had
been born in Europe. The children of the oldest brother (who was younger
than the oldest sister) -- also born in Europe -- always knew that their
father had not been born in the U.S. But nobody compared notes on this
data until I became interested in genealogy.

I'm sure other similar stories will emerge, thanks to Rebecca's inquiry.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Assimilating and Fabricating Immigrants #general

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Dear Rebecca and group,

I am curious how many others out there have had this experience of “finding
out” a relative who claimed they were >from someplace other than they really
were.

That certainly rings a bell for me. My mother's oldest sister (there
were 9 children), and her oldest brother, were both born in Europe
before my grandparents emigrated to America. In the 1900 census, when
she was 6 years old, my aunt's birthplace was listed as "Austria." In
the 1920 census, however, she is listed as being born in "Massachusetts."

Shortly before her death, my mother confirmed this -- telling me it was a
***Great Secret***! The woman's own son had not a clue that his mother had
been born in Europe. The children of the oldest brother (who was younger
than the oldest sister) -- also born in Europe -- always knew that their
father had not been born in the U.S. But nobody compared notes on this
data until I became interested in genealogy.

I'm sure other similar stories will emerge, thanks to Rebecca's inquiry.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA


Looking for Mr. Leo SILVER of Flushing, NY #general

silvio2@...
 

Dear Genners,

My paternal g-father, Zelek GRYC, had four sisters; all of them were
born in Plonsk, Poland. Yesterday I learned >from an uncle that they
moved to Leipzig and married there. I have no idea regarding the
whereabouts of their families, but I got >from my uncle a greeting card
sent in August of 2002 by one of my father's cousins. On the envelope
there is a sticker with his name and address, Mr. Leo SILVER from
Flushing, NY 11355. I tried without success to find his telephone number
through the international directory, there is no Leo SILVER in Flushing.
There are a couple "Leos" and a few "Leonards" in NY, but none of those
that I reached by phone were the right one. I will appreciate very much
any help/guidance on how to contact Mr. Leo SILVER that in 2002 lived in
Flushing

Best regards
Silvio GRYC
Kamon
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Mr. Leo SILVER of Flushing, NY #general

silvio2@...
 

Dear Genners,

My paternal g-father, Zelek GRYC, had four sisters; all of them were
born in Plonsk, Poland. Yesterday I learned >from an uncle that they
moved to Leipzig and married there. I have no idea regarding the
whereabouts of their families, but I got >from my uncle a greeting card
sent in August of 2002 by one of my father's cousins. On the envelope
there is a sticker with his name and address, Mr. Leo SILVER from
Flushing, NY 11355. I tried without success to find his telephone number
through the international directory, there is no Leo SILVER in Flushing.
There are a couple "Leos" and a few "Leonards" in NY, but none of those
that I reached by phone were the right one. I will appreciate very much
any help/guidance on how to contact Mr. Leo SILVER that in 2002 lived in
Flushing

Best regards
Silvio GRYC
Kamon
Israel


MARCH from Dubiecko and USA #galicia

Tomer Brunner
 

Shalom,
I'm researching the MARCH (sounds like MARKH) family >from Dubiecko, near
Przemysl (Poland).
Recently I was told by a relative (about 85 years old) that his
great-grandfather was rabbi Yoel - Klonimus MARCH, who was Rosh-Beit-Din (Head
of rabbinical court) in Dubiecko. Does anyone know anything about him?

Also, I'm trying to locate living descendants of another person >from this family,
who came >from Dubiecko to the USA already before WWII and around 1946 was
living in Queens, NY area. His name was *probably* Zalman MARCH.
Can anyone suggest which records to search for or in which cemeteries I
should look for his burial place?

I'll appreciate any help.
Thanks,
Tomer Brunner, Israel.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia MARCH from Dubiecko and USA #galicia

Tomer Brunner
 

Shalom,
I'm researching the MARCH (sounds like MARKH) family >from Dubiecko, near
Przemysl (Poland).
Recently I was told by a relative (about 85 years old) that his
great-grandfather was rabbi Yoel - Klonimus MARCH, who was Rosh-Beit-Din (Head
of rabbinical court) in Dubiecko. Does anyone know anything about him?

Also, I'm trying to locate living descendants of another person >from this family,
who came >from Dubiecko to the USA already before WWII and around 1946 was
living in Queens, NY area. His name was *probably* Zalman MARCH.
Can anyone suggest which records to search for or in which cemeteries I
should look for his burial place?

I'll appreciate any help.
Thanks,
Tomer Brunner, Israel.


Press Release for IAJGS 2005 Conference #lithuania

Davida Noyek Handler <dnhiowa@...>
 

EARLY REGISTRATION RATES AVAILABLE THROUGH MAY 1!
ONLINE REGISTRATION AVAILABLE AT:

www.jewishgen.org/jgs/jgs-southernnevada/Shelley/home.htm


The Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada (JGSSN) is proud to be the
host society for the 25th Annual International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy to be held at the Flamingo Hotel in Las Vegas. We are inviting all
who have an interest in finding their family history to join us.

This Conference has several new features to help advance your research
efforts. You'll be introduced to new databases and exposed to an array of
topics that will only whet your appetite for more. Conference attendees
will be able to question a number of experts, and meet with people
researching the same family lines or ancestral towns.

Plans for the Conference include activities and events for registrants and
their spouses or companions that will appeal to all. The comprehensive
Conference will be organized around themes so that registrants can easily
attend multiple sessions related to their interests. Subjects will be
presented in a variety of formats such as lectures, workshops, hands-on
demonstrations, panel discussions, films, book and author talks and author
signings. Time will be available to have discussions, ask questions and
interact with the presenters. "Breakfast with the Expert" sessions will be
available throughout the Conference.

What you can expect:

A 750+ page Conference syllabus

Welcome address at the opening reception by Congresswoman, Shelley Berkeley
(D-NV)

Presentations throughout the Conference by highly regarded national and
international experts on a wide range of geographic regions and genealogical
topics. Included in this will be knowledge needed for conducting Jewish
genealogy, research talks covering lesser-known communities, the history and
culture of Jews in Eastern Europe, Sephardic topics, and online genealogy
for research persons, families and shtetls.

Some of our more than 70 speakers include:

Dr. Alexander Beider - author of Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from Galicia

Dr. John Colleta - expert/author of They Came in Ships

Dr. Stephen P. Morse - creator of "One Step" Ellis Island records search
engine and other major genealogical records research engines

Miriam Weiner - well known for her first-hand unearthing of records in
Poland, Moldova, and Ukraine and author of Jewish Roots in Poland, and
Jewish Roots in Ukraine and Moldova.

Networking opportunities will be offered by attending luncheons with Special
Interest Groups (SIGs), or Birds of Feather sessions that focus on specific
regions, shtetls etc.

Peruse books, software and other articles of interest as shown by our
vendors

Computer Workshop with access to multiple databases and demonstrations

Our closing BANQUET (with kosher and vegetarian entrees available) will
feature His Honor Mayor Oscar Goodman of Las Vegas. You don't want to miss
the world's happiest mayor. In addition, professional musical entertainment
will also be provided.

Conference registration rates are: Early Registration (through May 1) $200;
Regular Registration (after May 1) $230. Discounts are available for
spouse/companion. For more detailed information re: registration, visit our
website at:

www.jewishgen.org/jgs/jgs-southernnevada/Shelley/home.htm

Register soon so that you can take advantage of the very good hotel rate of
$61 per night. You may extend your stay for 5 days before and/or after for
the same rate. Special Tour rates have been made available for conference
attendees.

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada was established in 1989,
small but determined. The Society has grown >from the original 8 members to
almost 80. We publish a quarterly newsletter, "Family Legacies" and a
monthly "News to Note" handout. As a group, we participate in Jewish
community activities such as providing a genealogy booth at the Israel
Independence Day celebration, volunteering to assist our local PBS station,
and working with the Jewish Federation and the Jewish Community Center. The
conference, hosted by JGSSN, is the recipient of a Las Vegas Centennial
grant.

A library of research material has been established and is available to our
members. It has books, periodicals, CD's and videos. The Society recently
received a grant >from the Jewish Federation to purchase additional books for
the library. Our active Speaker's Bureau spreads the good word for our
Society. A database of Jewish names >from headstones at local cemeteries
will soon be available on our website.

Additional information re: the JGSSN can be found on our website at:
www.jgssn.org


Davida Noyek Handler


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Press Release for IAJGS 2005 Conference #lithuania

Davida Noyek Handler <dnhiowa@...>
 

EARLY REGISTRATION RATES AVAILABLE THROUGH MAY 1!
ONLINE REGISTRATION AVAILABLE AT:

www.jewishgen.org/jgs/jgs-southernnevada/Shelley/home.htm


The Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada (JGSSN) is proud to be the
host society for the 25th Annual International Conference on Jewish
Genealogy to be held at the Flamingo Hotel in Las Vegas. We are inviting all
who have an interest in finding their family history to join us.

This Conference has several new features to help advance your research
efforts. You'll be introduced to new databases and exposed to an array of
topics that will only whet your appetite for more. Conference attendees
will be able to question a number of experts, and meet with people
researching the same family lines or ancestral towns.

Plans for the Conference include activities and events for registrants and
their spouses or companions that will appeal to all. The comprehensive
Conference will be organized around themes so that registrants can easily
attend multiple sessions related to their interests. Subjects will be
presented in a variety of formats such as lectures, workshops, hands-on
demonstrations, panel discussions, films, book and author talks and author
signings. Time will be available to have discussions, ask questions and
interact with the presenters. "Breakfast with the Expert" sessions will be
available throughout the Conference.

What you can expect:

A 750+ page Conference syllabus

Welcome address at the opening reception by Congresswoman, Shelley Berkeley
(D-NV)

Presentations throughout the Conference by highly regarded national and
international experts on a wide range of geographic regions and genealogical
topics. Included in this will be knowledge needed for conducting Jewish
genealogy, research talks covering lesser-known communities, the history and
culture of Jews in Eastern Europe, Sephardic topics, and online genealogy
for research persons, families and shtetls.

Some of our more than 70 speakers include:

Dr. Alexander Beider - author of Dictionary of Jewish Surnames >from Galicia

Dr. John Colleta - expert/author of They Came in Ships

Dr. Stephen P. Morse - creator of "One Step" Ellis Island records search
engine and other major genealogical records research engines

Miriam Weiner - well known for her first-hand unearthing of records in
Poland, Moldova, and Ukraine and author of Jewish Roots in Poland, and
Jewish Roots in Ukraine and Moldova.

Networking opportunities will be offered by attending luncheons with Special
Interest Groups (SIGs), or Birds of Feather sessions that focus on specific
regions, shtetls etc.

Peruse books, software and other articles of interest as shown by our
vendors

Computer Workshop with access to multiple databases and demonstrations

Our closing BANQUET (with kosher and vegetarian entrees available) will
feature His Honor Mayor Oscar Goodman of Las Vegas. You don't want to miss
the world's happiest mayor. In addition, professional musical entertainment
will also be provided.

Conference registration rates are: Early Registration (through May 1) $200;
Regular Registration (after May 1) $230. Discounts are available for
spouse/companion. For more detailed information re: registration, visit our
website at:

www.jewishgen.org/jgs/jgs-southernnevada/Shelley/home.htm

Register soon so that you can take advantage of the very good hotel rate of
$61 per night. You may extend your stay for 5 days before and/or after for
the same rate. Special Tour rates have been made available for conference
attendees.

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Southern Nevada was established in 1989,
small but determined. The Society has grown >from the original 8 members to
almost 80. We publish a quarterly newsletter, "Family Legacies" and a
monthly "News to Note" handout. As a group, we participate in Jewish
community activities such as providing a genealogy booth at the Israel
Independence Day celebration, volunteering to assist our local PBS station,
and working with the Jewish Federation and the Jewish Community Center. The
conference, hosted by JGSSN, is the recipient of a Las Vegas Centennial
grant.

A library of research material has been established and is available to our
members. It has books, periodicals, CD's and videos. The Society recently
received a grant >from the Jewish Federation to purchase additional books for
the library. Our active Speaker's Bureau spreads the good word for our
Society. A database of Jewish names >from headstones at local cemeteries
will soon be available on our website.

Additional information re: the JGSSN can be found on our website at:
www.jgssn.org


Davida Noyek Handler