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Re: Index to Declaration of Intent for Naturalization - New York County Supreme Court #general

Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
 

Just a follow up to this, the Div. of Old Records also has the Declaration
of Intent to Naturalize pages for individuals who started the naturalization
process but did not complete it. This index of names is also on that well
known paid subscription website. I am not sure if the Div. of Old Records
takes written orders on this or if the FHL has these on microfilm also.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ


Dear Cousins,

In my reply to yesterday to a question about this, I said that copies
of the naturalization records of New York County State State Supreme Court
were not available elsewhere. However, Mark Jacobson brought to my
attention that the LDS has copies on microfilm, which of course can be
rented >from any Family History Library.

My apologies for the error.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


galveston plan #general

JDY18@...
 

Dear Friends,

My grantparents came to the U.S. via Galveston, TX, as part of the Galveston
Immigration Plan. My wife and I will be in Houston later this month and were
thinking about visiting Galveston. We have some questions.

1. Is there anyone else out there familiar with this plan, or whose ancestors
came through Galveston?

2. Has anyone visited Galveston? Is there anything there to see relating to
Jewish immigration?


thanks for any help

send responses to -- jdy18@aol.com


thanks,
Julien Yoseloff


LANDA of Tzfat / Orhei and Lev LANDAU #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear Genners, I post again my inquiry on the LANDA family following new info I have
received. My great-great-grandmother, Sarah Soibel, married Elazar Silberman (died
1900, son of Refael Silberman, Tzfat's Rav till 1914) in Tzfat. Sarah Soibel was
daughter of Menachem Mendel Auerbach (maybe son of Yacov Zvi, died 1893), and
Maltze LANDA. After her husband died, Sarah Soibel moved to the US, but on the way
she visited relatives in Russia (it was in the 20th century already, maybe during
or after WW I). Sarah Soibel had a first cousin in Tzfat, with the same name -
Sarah Soibel. she also married a SILBERMAN (Yitzchak dov, another son of Refael).
the second Sarah Soibel was daughter of David LANDA, and I think he came to Tzfat
from Orhei (currently in Moldova), also called Orgieev, Orgeyev. By the fact they
were first cousins, I can only asume that David LANDA and Maltze (ne lANDA) were
brother and sister. Family tradition tells the Landaus are descendent of the famous
Rabbi Yechezkel Landau of Prague, author of "Noda B'Yehuda". I have recently been
told that "my" Landas were realtives of Lev (Davidovich) LANDAU, Russian noble
prize winner.
I will appreaciate any info on the LANDA / LANDAU family mentioned. Please reply
also directly to: yarpd@yahoo.com
Thank you, Yaron Pedhazur Tel-Aviv, Israel


Advice - St. Albans Canadian border crossing #general

John Hoenig
 

Hi all,

There's been quite a bit of discussion about the Canadian border crossing records
known as the St Albans records. These can be tremendously valuable but they're
difficult to use. I knew my father's family came to NY as visitors in 1940 and then
had to leave the country in order to return as immigrants. They took the train to
Montreal, stayed 3 days, and returned. I didn't expect anything particularly
interesting >from the records but I wanted to see them anyway. So, I searched for
the records in the microfilmed index at NARA and found nothing. Later, after I read
more about the records, I realized they're tricky to use so on a subsequent visit
I tried again and this time I found them. There are two indexes. I got a real jolt
when I saw the entry that listed a first cousin of my father as closest relative or
friend in place whence alien came, i.e., in France. I hadn't realized the cousin
made it out of Hungary and am now wondering about his fate.

I published an article in the May-June 2005 issue of Family Chronicle on using the
St. Albans records. The article is available for free as a pdf file that you can
download >from my webpage. Simply go to

http://www.fisheries.vims.edu/hoenig/professor.html

Be aware that many people made trips to Canada years, even decades, after arriving
in the US so that they could enter the US legally as immigrants.

John Hoenig
Virginia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Index to Declaration of Intent for Naturalization - New York County Supreme Court #general

Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
 

Just a follow up to this, the Div. of Old Records also has the Declaration
of Intent to Naturalize pages for individuals who started the naturalization
process but did not complete it. This index of names is also on that well
known paid subscription website. I am not sure if the Div. of Old Records
takes written orders on this or if the FHL has these on microfilm also.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ


Dear Cousins,

In my reply to yesterday to a question about this, I said that copies
of the naturalization records of New York County State State Supreme Court
were not available elsewhere. However, Mark Jacobson brought to my
attention that the LDS has copies on microfilm, which of course can be
rented >from any Family History Library.

My apologies for the error.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen galveston plan #general

JDY18@...
 

Dear Friends,

My grantparents came to the U.S. via Galveston, TX, as part of the Galveston
Immigration Plan. My wife and I will be in Houston later this month and were
thinking about visiting Galveston. We have some questions.

1. Is there anyone else out there familiar with this plan, or whose ancestors
came through Galveston?

2. Has anyone visited Galveston? Is there anything there to see relating to
Jewish immigration?


thanks for any help

send responses to -- jdy18@aol.com


thanks,
Julien Yoseloff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LANDA of Tzfat / Orhei and Lev LANDAU #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear Genners, I post again my inquiry on the LANDA family following new info I have
received. My great-great-grandmother, Sarah Soibel, married Elazar Silberman (died
1900, son of Refael Silberman, Tzfat's Rav till 1914) in Tzfat. Sarah Soibel was
daughter of Menachem Mendel Auerbach (maybe son of Yacov Zvi, died 1893), and
Maltze LANDA. After her husband died, Sarah Soibel moved to the US, but on the way
she visited relatives in Russia (it was in the 20th century already, maybe during
or after WW I). Sarah Soibel had a first cousin in Tzfat, with the same name -
Sarah Soibel. she also married a SILBERMAN (Yitzchak dov, another son of Refael).
the second Sarah Soibel was daughter of David LANDA, and I think he came to Tzfat
from Orhei (currently in Moldova), also called Orgieev, Orgeyev. By the fact they
were first cousins, I can only asume that David LANDA and Maltze (ne lANDA) were
brother and sister. Family tradition tells the Landaus are descendent of the famous
Rabbi Yechezkel Landau of Prague, author of "Noda B'Yehuda". I have recently been
told that "my" Landas were realtives of Lev (Davidovich) LANDAU, Russian noble
prize winner.
I will appreaciate any info on the LANDA / LANDAU family mentioned. Please reply
also directly to: yarpd@yahoo.com
Thank you, Yaron Pedhazur Tel-Aviv, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Advice - St. Albans Canadian border crossing #general

John Hoenig
 

Hi all,

There's been quite a bit of discussion about the Canadian border crossing records
known as the St Albans records. These can be tremendously valuable but they're
difficult to use. I knew my father's family came to NY as visitors in 1940 and then
had to leave the country in order to return as immigrants. They took the train to
Montreal, stayed 3 days, and returned. I didn't expect anything particularly
interesting >from the records but I wanted to see them anyway. So, I searched for
the records in the microfilmed index at NARA and found nothing. Later, after I read
more about the records, I realized they're tricky to use so on a subsequent visit
I tried again and this time I found them. There are two indexes. I got a real jolt
when I saw the entry that listed a first cousin of my father as closest relative or
friend in place whence alien came, i.e., in France. I hadn't realized the cousin
made it out of Hungary and am now wondering about his fate.

I published an article in the May-June 2005 issue of Family Chronicle on using the
St. Albans records. The article is available for free as a pdf file that you can
download >from my webpage. Simply go to

http://www.fisheries.vims.edu/hoenig/professor.html

Be aware that many people made trips to Canada years, even decades, after arriving
in the US so that they could enter the US legally as immigrants.

John Hoenig
Virginia


SILBERMAN / BARMDIGER of Tzfat and Uman #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear Genners, I have recently posted here an inquiry about the SILBERMAN family of
Tzfat, that came >from Uman in 1852 (the family of Refael SILBERMAN, who was Tzfat
ABD till 1914). The family was not originally SILBERMAN, they just used a Silberman
document to leave the country. I have found out that the original name was
"BARMDIGER", which I assume can be also "DERBARMDIGER", which means "merciful" in
idish. The names known : Mordechai SILBERMAN (father of Refael), born BARMDIGER (or
DERBARMDIGER) in 1809/1819, in Uman, died 1872 in Tveria. Mordechai married
Ruchama, daughter of Abraham Leib, Rav in Uman. Mordechai's father
Yitzchak BARMDIGER (or DERBARMDIGER), lived in Uman. Family story tells that the
damily came originally to Uman >from Tzfat, but I don't know if it was in Yitzchak
generation or earlier. Any info on BARMDIGER / DERBARMDIGER (also spelled with K
- Derbarmediker) families, >from Uman or its surroundungs, will help! Thank you,
Yaron Pedhazur Tel Aviv, Israel


Makarover Rav (TWERSKY) & WEXLER family #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear Genners, I have recently posted an inquity on the WEXLER family >from Zvil /
Novograd Volinskiy in Ukraine, that immigrated to Tzfat on 1858 Family members:
Yeshaya Yehuda WEXLER (nicknamed Shaya Yudel), born in Zvil in 1837/9. died in
Tzfat before 1910. His wife name was Chana Golde, daughter of Yacov Yosef
(family name unknown), died in Tzfat 1913. Yeshaya yudil's parents, Aharon and Leah
WEXLER came to Tzfat in 1858 as well.. Aharon was also born in Zvil, 1815/9. They
were still alive in 1875 (Leah also in 1883). They probably died in Tzfat.
Aharon Wexler was "Parnas" of Makarov shull in Tzfat. Recent info I got indicates
that the family DESCENDED of the first Makarover Rebbe, Menachem Nachum Twersky
(1805-1851), son of Mordechai of Chernobyl. If this info is correct, my
specualtion is that either Aharon Wexler was son-in-law of the Makarover, or the
relation is via Chana Golde, daughter of Yacov Yosef mentioned above (no further
details on her and her ancestors). Any info on the above will help! Please reply
directly to: yarpd@yahoo.com
Thank you, Yaron Pedhazur Tel-Aviv, Israel


Military Archives in Vienna-Kriegsarchiv #general

pollinia@...
 

Dear Genners,

Following Tommer Brunner's posting on 24 November (see below), regarding the
Military Archives in Vienna, I took the time to look for an official website
and there it was:

http://www.oesta.gv.at/site/5170/default.aspx

This part of the website also presents info on how to apply to the archive, as
well as downloadable application forms. Notice that some of the services given
there are not toll-free. The website is in German only, so use your
German-speaking friends if you're having trouble with it.

Best Regards,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SILBERMAN / BARMDIGER of Tzfat and Uman #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear Genners, I have recently posted here an inquiry about the SILBERMAN family of
Tzfat, that came >from Uman in 1852 (the family of Refael SILBERMAN, who was Tzfat
ABD till 1914). The family was not originally SILBERMAN, they just used a Silberman
document to leave the country. I have found out that the original name was
"BARMDIGER", which I assume can be also "DERBARMDIGER", which means "merciful" in
idish. The names known : Mordechai SILBERMAN (father of Refael), born BARMDIGER (or
DERBARMDIGER) in 1809/1819, in Uman, died 1872 in Tveria. Mordechai married
Ruchama, daughter of Abraham Leib, Rav in Uman. Mordechai's father
Yitzchak BARMDIGER (or DERBARMDIGER), lived in Uman. Family story tells that the
damily came originally to Uman >from Tzfat, but I don't know if it was in Yitzchak
generation or earlier. Any info on BARMDIGER / DERBARMDIGER (also spelled with K
- Derbarmediker) families, >from Uman or its surroundungs, will help! Thank you,
Yaron Pedhazur Tel Aviv, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Makarover Rav (TWERSKY) & WEXLER family #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear Genners, I have recently posted an inquity on the WEXLER family >from Zvil /
Novograd Volinskiy in Ukraine, that immigrated to Tzfat on 1858 Family members:
Yeshaya Yehuda WEXLER (nicknamed Shaya Yudel), born in Zvil in 1837/9. died in
Tzfat before 1910. His wife name was Chana Golde, daughter of Yacov Yosef
(family name unknown), died in Tzfat 1913. Yeshaya yudil's parents, Aharon and Leah
WEXLER came to Tzfat in 1858 as well.. Aharon was also born in Zvil, 1815/9. They
were still alive in 1875 (Leah also in 1883). They probably died in Tzfat.
Aharon Wexler was "Parnas" of Makarov shull in Tzfat. Recent info I got indicates
that the family DESCENDED of the first Makarover Rebbe, Menachem Nachum Twersky
(1805-1851), son of Mordechai of Chernobyl. If this info is correct, my
specualtion is that either Aharon Wexler was son-in-law of the Makarover, or the
relation is via Chana Golde, daughter of Yacov Yosef mentioned above (no further
details on her and her ancestors). Any info on the above will help! Please reply
directly to: yarpd@yahoo.com
Thank you, Yaron Pedhazur Tel-Aviv, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Military Archives in Vienna-Kriegsarchiv #general

pollinia@...
 

Dear Genners,

Following Tommer Brunner's posting on 24 November (see below), regarding the
Military Archives in Vienna, I took the time to look for an official website
and there it was:

http://www.oesta.gv.at/site/5170/default.aspx

This part of the website also presents info on how to apply to the archive, as
well as downloadable application forms. Notice that some of the services given
there are not toll-free. The website is in German only, so use your
German-speaking friends if you're having trouble with it.

Best Regards,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel


Yocehved (daughter of Apta Rebbe) & Kalman (son of Chaim of Chernovitz) #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear Genners, Yocheved was a daughter of Rabbi Abraham Yehoshua Heschel, 'the Apter
Rebbe, The author of Ohev Yisrael (Lover of Israel), died 1825. Kalman Kalonymus
was a son of Chaim of Chernovtiz, author of "Be'er Ma'im Cha'im". Yocheved and
Kalman got married, and lived in Kishinev. A famous Chasidic story tells that
Kalman started reading external books (turned to Haskala), and the Apta Rebbe got
furious, and made his daughter divorce him. she got married later to Dan Yungerleib
of Radvil. the story goes on telling that Kalman "got back to his senses", after
his father appeared to him in a deam, and even made "alyah". His father Chaim
of Chernovitz died in Tzfat around 1818. I am interested to find any details on
Kalman and Yocheved marriage, and especially any descendants they may had.
Thank you, Yaron Pedhazur Tel-Aviv, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yocehved (daughter of Apta Rebbe) & Kalman (son of Chaim of Chernovitz) #general

Yaron Pedhazur
 

Dear Genners, Yocheved was a daughter of Rabbi Abraham Yehoshua Heschel, 'the Apter
Rebbe, The author of Ohev Yisrael (Lover of Israel), died 1825. Kalman Kalonymus
was a son of Chaim of Chernovtiz, author of "Be'er Ma'im Cha'im". Yocheved and
Kalman got married, and lived in Kishinev. A famous Chasidic story tells that
Kalman started reading external books (turned to Haskala), and the Apta Rebbe got
furious, and made his daughter divorce him. she got married later to Dan Yungerleib
of Radvil. the story goes on telling that Kalman "got back to his senses", after
his father appeared to him in a deam, and even made "alyah". His father Chaim
of Chernovitz died in Tzfat around 1818. I am interested to find any details on
Kalman and Yocheved marriage, and especially any descendants they may had.
Thank you, Yaron Pedhazur Tel-Aviv, Israel


The contents of GenAmi 38, December 2007 #general

Micheline GUTMANN
 

The annual meeting 2007, call for candidates
The Grand Sanhedrin of Napoleon and the complete list of members, with
mention of those whose genealogy has been studied by GenAmi (about 2/3).

Isaac STRAUSS, born at Bischheim, Alsace,musician and collector of Judaica.
His important collection occupes an important place at the " Musee d'Art et
d'Histoire du Judaisme" in Paris. Descendants, among them the Academician
and ethnologist Claude LEVI-STRAUSS, (and our cousin Claude GUTMANN.)
Ascendants, relatives, also the maternal branch with families BLUM (the mohels)
and HIRSCHMANN of Ettendorf (with rabbi Joseph MOCH of Bischheim whose
great-daughter married my great uncle Maurice VISSOTSKY.)

The Hamburger family of Bergheim is descendant of Rabbi FEIBELMAN and Ruben
WARBURG of Altona.

The National Conference of genealogy in Tours in May 2007; GenAmi will be present

And ...Yvette Zeliqzon - The last name of the list of deported people >from France
on the Klarsfeld list. She was a beautiful blond-haired girl of 13 years old.

The Chief rabbi Rene Paul Hirschler, deported as his wife after an heroic
attitude. His history was well-known, but not his genealogy. The family came
from Presburg and was related with families of Bordeaux, Avignon, Lorraine and
Alsace.

1906: birth of Hannah Arendt

Acquisitions
An Ancient Lineage, Edward Gelles
To Remember Me By, Ernst Oppenheim
Lists de circumcisions in Nancy and Toul will be translated.

GenAmi presents four new delegates
Reviews of genealogy

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
Web site GenAmi= www.genami.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The contents of GenAmi 38, December 2007 #general

Micheline GUTMANN
 

The annual meeting 2007, call for candidates
The Grand Sanhedrin of Napoleon and the complete list of members, with
mention of those whose genealogy has been studied by GenAmi (about 2/3).

Isaac STRAUSS, born at Bischheim, Alsace,musician and collector of Judaica.
His important collection occupes an important place at the " Musee d'Art et
d'Histoire du Judaisme" in Paris. Descendants, among them the Academician
and ethnologist Claude LEVI-STRAUSS, (and our cousin Claude GUTMANN.)
Ascendants, relatives, also the maternal branch with families BLUM (the mohels)
and HIRSCHMANN of Ettendorf (with rabbi Joseph MOCH of Bischheim whose
great-daughter married my great uncle Maurice VISSOTSKY.)

The Hamburger family of Bergheim is descendant of Rabbi FEIBELMAN and Ruben
WARBURG of Altona.

The National Conference of genealogy in Tours in May 2007; GenAmi will be present

And ...Yvette Zeliqzon - The last name of the list of deported people >from France
on the Klarsfeld list. She was a beautiful blond-haired girl of 13 years old.

The Chief rabbi Rene Paul Hirschler, deported as his wife after an heroic
attitude. His history was well-known, but not his genealogy. The family came
from Presburg and was related with families of Bordeaux, Avignon, Lorraine and
Alsace.

1906: birth of Hannah Arendt

Acquisitions
An Ancient Lineage, Edward Gelles
To Remember Me By, Ernst Oppenheim
Lists de circumcisions in Nancy and Toul will be translated.

GenAmi presents four new delegates
Reviews of genealogy

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France
Web site GenAmi= www.genami.org


Re: Family Myth Busting #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Michael Bernet suggests (somewhat humorously no doubt):

I'd rather be unfaithful to the strict rules of genealogy than dismiss
the pride in my family for its honored connections to other proud and
honored families. I don't fib in my family tree, but make sure to include
the names of the illustrious in-laws, and cousins' cousins, who have
risen to fame and distinction. A little of it rubs off on me

Thank you, Michae! Since Jews constitute * 'am ehad * -- "one
people" ( more literally "one family" as the word * 'am* is a
genealogical term originally signifying "husband's brother" -- as it
still does in Arabic) , I shall henceforth happily derive yikhus
from the fact that as a member of the Providence Jewish community, I
have actually rubbed shoulders with Seymour Lederberg -- a Brown
professor and brother of Nobel Laureate Joshua Lederberg.

In my former incarnation as an attorney I also knew Seymour's wife,
the late Justice Victoria Lederberg of the Rhode Island Supreme
Court. Before switching careers in mid-stream in the 1970s, I
frequently argued State's responses to criminal appeals in that Court
-- though that was long before Vicky was elevated to that august
institution. (She, by the way, was an Italian-American.)

My point is that in the Jewish community there are always far fewer
than six degrees of separation, so is we apply Michael's criteria, a
little of everyone else's yikhus can rub off on all of us!

Happy Hanukkah to one and all!

Judith Romney Wegner

MODERATOR NOTE: Any further specifics of the Lederberg family should
be shared privately, but thank you all for the reminders of our
connectedness.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Family Myth Busting #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Michael Bernet suggests (somewhat humorously no doubt):

I'd rather be unfaithful to the strict rules of genealogy than dismiss
the pride in my family for its honored connections to other proud and
honored families. I don't fib in my family tree, but make sure to include
the names of the illustrious in-laws, and cousins' cousins, who have
risen to fame and distinction. A little of it rubs off on me

Thank you, Michae! Since Jews constitute * 'am ehad * -- "one
people" ( more literally "one family" as the word * 'am* is a
genealogical term originally signifying "husband's brother" -- as it
still does in Arabic) , I shall henceforth happily derive yikhus
from the fact that as a member of the Providence Jewish community, I
have actually rubbed shoulders with Seymour Lederberg -- a Brown
professor and brother of Nobel Laureate Joshua Lederberg.

In my former incarnation as an attorney I also knew Seymour's wife,
the late Justice Victoria Lederberg of the Rhode Island Supreme
Court. Before switching careers in mid-stream in the 1970s, I
frequently argued State's responses to criminal appeals in that Court
-- though that was long before Vicky was elevated to that august
institution. (She, by the way, was an Italian-American.)

My point is that in the Jewish community there are always far fewer
than six degrees of separation, so is we apply Michael's criteria, a
little of everyone else's yikhus can rub off on all of us!

Happy Hanukkah to one and all!

Judith Romney Wegner

MODERATOR NOTE: Any further specifics of the Lederberg family should
be shared privately, but thank you all for the reminders of our
connectedness.