Roger Lustig wrote on 23 aug 2008 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

Evertjan. wrote:
Flegenheimer seems to me an inhabitant of the theoretical
stetl "Flegenheim", though ShtetlSeeker cannot find it
which has, in German, nothing to do with "flat".

When in doubt, check Lars Menk's A Dictionary of German-Jewish Surnames.

He reports that the name means "person >from Flehingen."
The earliest examples he has used both FLEHINGER and FLEGENHEIMER.
FLEHENHEIMER was also known.

Flehingen, 30 km NE of Karlsruhe:
< http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~shtetm~-1770368 >
< http://www.evilsnake.com/Genealogy/Flehingen.html >

Even so, I cannot see the jump >from FLEHINGER to FLEGENHEIMER,
unless the name FLEGENHEIM is reported for FLEHINGEN,
and the below gives some clues to that:

< http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberderdingen > says:
"Flehingen wurde 778/79 als Flancheim erstmals erwähnt."

It seems that that place started as a "heim/heem/hem/ham/um" name,
as there are so many in England, Netherlands andwestern Germany,
[like Wokenham, Arnhem, Manheim], all having the same root as "home".

So FLEGENHEIMER could be a derivative of something like FLANCHEIMER.

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
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Roger Lustig wrote on 23 aug 2008 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

Evertjan. wrote:
Flegenheimer seems to me an inhabitant of the theoretical
stetl "Flegenheim", though ShtetlSeeker cannot find it
which has, in German, nothing to do with "flat".

When in doubt, check Lars Menk's A Dictionary of German-Jewish Surnames.

He reports that the name means "person >from Flehingen."
The earliest examples he has used both FLEHINGER and FLEGENHEIMER.
FLEHENHEIMER was also known.

Flehingen, 30 km NE of Karlsruhe:
< http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~shtetm~-1770368 >
< http://www.evilsnake.com/Genealogy/Flehingen.html >

Even so, I cannot see the jump >from FLEHINGER to FLEGENHEIMER,
unless the name FLEGENHEIM is reported for FLEHINGEN,
and the below gives some clues to that:

< http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberderdingen > says:
"Flehingen wurde 778/79 als Flancheim erstmals erwähnt."

It seems that that place started as a "heim/heem/hem/ham/um" name,
as there are so many in England, Netherlands andwestern Germany,
[like Wokenham, Arnhem, Manheim], all having the same root as "home".

So FLEGENHEIMER could be a derivative of something like FLANCHEIMER.

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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I am researching Wasserman (Wasermann, Vaserman, etc.) and
Zlot/Slot/Slote/Slott in Lithuania and South Africa. The towns in Lithuania
are Linkuva and Joniskelis (also Slobodka, Pusalotas and Birzai) near
Panavezys in the Kaunas district and also Vilnius and Sechi. Johannesburg is
the town in South Africa.

Please contact me if you are researching these names and places.

Max Heffler

--
www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Yanishkelis/ - Joniskelis Shtetlink

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I am researching Wasserman (Wasermann, Vaserman, etc.) and
Zlot/Slot/Slote/Slott in Lithuania and South Africa. The towns in Lithuania
are Linkuva and Joniskelis (also Slobodka, Pusalotas and Birzai) near
Panavezys in the Kaunas district and also Vilnius and Sechi. Johannesburg is
the town in South Africa.

Please contact me if you are researching these names and places.

Max Heffler

--
www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Yanishkelis/ - Joniskelis Shtetlink

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Does anyone know the home or email address of Stuart Freedman, in or near
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Thank you,
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dobr. repet. means what in the context of student records?

The abbreviations dobr. repet. appear in 1915 school records with
some
student names:

Schneider, Chaim dobr. repet. A literal translation might help,
but it would be more helpful if the meaning is in the context of a
student's record.

Thank you.

Alan Weiser
alanboy@starpower.net
Silver Spring, MD USA

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dobr. repet. means what in the context of student records?

The abbreviations dobr. repet. appear in 1915 school records with
some
student names:

Schneider, Chaim dobr. repet. A literal translation might help,
but it would be more helpful if the meaning is in the context of a
student's record.

Thank you.

Alan Weiser
alanboy@starpower.net
Silver Spring, MD USA

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The website of the Family History Library has a list of over 500
microfilms of Vienna Jewish records. Apart >from BMD, divorce,
conversions, military, sephardic and other microfilms they have also
one group entitled "Beerdigungsprotokolle" (burial protocols) which
are indexed.
Another group of microfilms is entitled "Verzeichnisse der
Leichenbegangnisse der IKG in Wien (Register of funerals of the Jewish
community in Vienna).
I found details of the funerals of my two grandmothers. One died in
1911 the other in 1924. The documents show the cost of the funeral,
the grave and the name and address of the person who paid for the
costs.
Go to: www.familysearch.org, > go to library catalog, >go to Place
search, enter Wien, select Jewish records, select Matrikel 1826-1943.
there are 551 microfilms in this group.

Henry Wellisch
Toronto

Dear Genners,

I have a one and a half page document in Polish. When I looked through the
document I noticed the name of my great grandmother and the province Grodno,
which is where she lived. I believe that it could possibly be a deed
because it was notarized. The first page is typed and the second page is
partially typed and hand written. If you know Polish, I can email you the
document. I am sorry, but I can't post the document on view mate because my
computer is too slow to upload it.

Thank you,

Blake Fleisher
blake@fleishergroup.com
New York, USA

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The website of the Family History Library has a list of over 500
microfilms of Vienna Jewish records. Apart >from BMD, divorce,
conversions, military, sephardic and other microfilms they have also
one group entitled "Beerdigungsprotokolle" (burial protocols) which
are indexed.
Another group of microfilms is entitled "Verzeichnisse der
Leichenbegangnisse der IKG in Wien (Register of funerals of the Jewish
community in Vienna).
I found details of the funerals of my two grandmothers. One died in
1911 the other in 1924. The documents show the cost of the funeral,
the grave and the name and address of the person who paid for the
costs.
Go to: www.familysearch.org, > go to library catalog, >go to Place
search, enter Wien, select Jewish records, select Matrikel 1826-1943.
there are 551 microfilms in this group.

Henry Wellisch
Toronto

Dear Genners,

I have a one and a half page document in Polish. When I looked through the
document I noticed the name of my great grandmother and the province Grodno,
which is where she lived. I believe that it could possibly be a deed
because it was notarized. The first page is typed and the second page is
partially typed and hand written. If you know Polish, I can email you the
document. I am sorry, but I can't post the document on view mate because my
computer is too slow to upload it.

Thank you,

Blake Fleisher
blake@fleishergroup.com
New York, USA

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Dear SIGgers,

I'm facing this riddle and would appreciate your comments.

In the Prague Conscriptions database one can find the following entry:

Sara KIESCH (POPPER) with the following children in Lieben:
Ludwig (1837), Franziska (1839), Maria (1840), Jakob (1843),
Herrmann (1845), Samuel (1847), Julia (1850) and Johanna.

This is the first time I ever seen the name KISCH spelled this way.
It's also the only KIESCH entry I could find in this database.
These KISCH are not mentioned in the Paul J. Jacobi papers.

I tried to find the children in the same database and found
the following:

Jacob KISCH (1856, Lieben) and Emma FLUSSER with children
Frieda (1895) and Josef (1897)
Jacob KISCH (1855) and Marie FLUSSER with children Friederike (1893),
Josef (1896) and Franz (1900).
Semmi KISCH (1852, Lieben) and Rosa JELINEK (1871, Lieben) with
children Rudolf (1886), Hanna (1890), Eugenie (1896) and Milada (1899).
Julie KISCH (1864, Lieben) living with the KRAUS family.
Maria KISCH (1838) living with the KARPELES family.
No Ludwig, Franziska, Hermann or Johanna that isn't accounted for
in some other way.
Jacob, Semmi and Julie are possible candidates, they are also >from Lieben,
but the dates are off by more than 1 or 2 years: 12, 5 and 14 years resp..

In the 'Prager Tagblatt' I found the following:

Julie KISCH died 30.08.1916 Prague Lieben. Brothers: Semi and Jakob.
Sisters-in-law: Rosa and Marie.
Semi KISCH died 29.04.1918 Prague VIII. Wife Rosa JELLINEK, Brother: Jakob.
Sister-in-law: Emma. Children: Rudolf, Irma, Jenny, Milada.

Celia Male found the following in the 1880 Vienna census:

Samuel KISCH (1852, Lieben) living at the same address as Mathias KISCH
(1847, Prague) and wife Anna LION (1851).
Mathias was a son of Salamon (1818-1896 Prague) and Amalie Weronika nee
BACHOFEN (BLOCH) (1822/3-1886or96), but Samuel is NOT his brother (neither
are Jacob and Julia, at least not according to Jacobi).

The 1880 US census yields the following:

Ludwig KISCH, 42, born in Bohemia, with wife Matilda, 36, born in Bohemia,
and daughter Ida, 13, living in Manhattan NY.
Jacob KISCH, 37, born in Bohemia, wife Carrie, 22, born in Prussia, living
in Manhattan NY.
Herman KISCH, 34, born in Germany, wife Josephine, 25, born in Germany, with
son Edward, 7, and daughter Harriet, 1, living in Newark NJ.
Jennie ROSENBERG, 28, born in Bohemia, with husband Solomon, 32, born in
Prussia, living in Manhattan NY.

LDS IGI yields the following:

Ludwig KISCH, born in Bohemia, son of Isak KISCH and Sarah POPER, married
Mathilde SAAR, born in Bohemia, daughter of Herman SAAR and Anna GETREUER,
on 14.10.1866 in Manhattan NY.
Ida, born 15.07.1867 Manhattan NY, daughter of Ludwig KISCH and Mathilde
SOOR.
Louise A., born in NY, daughter of Ludwig KISCH and Matilda SOHR.

Jacob KISCH, born in 'Liebel' Bohemia, son of Isaac KISCH and Sarah POPPER,
married Carrie NATHAN, born in Neuwied Prussia, daughter of Moritz NATHAN
and Eliza DIETZ, on 28.12.1879 in Manhattan NY.
Ella, born 28.07.1881 Manhattan NY, daughter of Jacob KISCH and Carry
NATHAN.

Herman KISCH, born in Bohemia, son of Isaac KISCH and Sara POPPER, married
Josephine BLYER, born in Bohemia, daughter of Samuel BLYER and Sophia
ZEIMER, on 01.09.1872 in Manhattan NY.
Edward, born 17.06.1873 Manhattan NY, son of Herman KISCH and Josephine
BLEYER.

Jeni KISCH, born in Prague Bohemia, daughter of Isaac KISCH and Sara ROPPER,
married Solomom ROSENBERG, born in Warszawskiego Poland, son of Samuel
ROSENBERG and Rosa LINGER, on 26.05.1872 Manhattan NY.

Apparently the 4 of them had moved to the US.

Question is if there is just one set of Jacob, Samuel (Semi) and Julia or if
there are 2 sets. Key in this whole story is Jacob. If there's only 1 set,
Jacob must have moved to the US between 1865 (police record) and 1879
(marriage record) and he must have returned to Prague before 1893-5 (birth
of his daughter) to marry Marie/Emma FLUSSER.
If there are 2 sets then I have no clue where the other set came from,
because they can't be found in the Conscriptions database nor are they
mentioned by Paul Jacobi.

Raymond van Kooyk, the Netherlands

Dear SIGgers,

I'm facing this riddle and would appreciate your comments.

In the Prague Conscriptions database one can find the following entry:

Sara KIESCH (POPPER) with the following children in Lieben:
Ludwig (1837), Franziska (1839), Maria (1840), Jakob (1843),
Herrmann (1845), Samuel (1847), Julia (1850) and Johanna.

This is the first time I ever seen the name KISCH spelled this way.
It's also the only KIESCH entry I could find in this database.
These KISCH are not mentioned in the Paul J. Jacobi papers.

I tried to find the children in the same database and found
the following:

Jacob KISCH (1856, Lieben) and Emma FLUSSER with children
Frieda (1895) and Josef (1897)
Jacob KISCH (1855) and Marie FLUSSER with children Friederike (1893),
Josef (1896) and Franz (1900).
Semmi KISCH (1852, Lieben) and Rosa JELINEK (1871, Lieben) with
children Rudolf (1886), Hanna (1890), Eugenie (1896) and Milada (1899).
Julie KISCH (1864, Lieben) living with the KRAUS family.
Maria KISCH (1838) living with the KARPELES family.
No Ludwig, Franziska, Hermann or Johanna that isn't accounted for
in some other way.
Jacob, Semmi and Julie are possible candidates, they are also >from Lieben,
but the dates are off by more than 1 or 2 years: 12, 5 and 14 years resp..

In the 'Prager Tagblatt' I found the following:

Julie KISCH died 30.08.1916 Prague Lieben. Brothers: Semi and Jakob.
Sisters-in-law: Rosa and Marie.
Semi KISCH died 29.04.1918 Prague VIII. Wife Rosa JELLINEK, Brother: Jakob.
Sister-in-law: Emma. Children: Rudolf, Irma, Jenny, Milada.

Celia Male found the following in the 1880 Vienna census:

Samuel KISCH (1852, Lieben) living at the same address as Mathias KISCH
(1847, Prague) and wife Anna LION (1851).
Mathias was a son of Salamon (1818-1896 Prague) and Amalie Weronika nee
BACHOFEN (BLOCH) (1822/3-1886or96), but Samuel is NOT his brother (neither
are Jacob and Julia, at least not according to Jacobi).

The 1880 US census yields the following:

Ludwig KISCH, 42, born in Bohemia, with wife Matilda, 36, born in Bohemia,
and daughter Ida, 13, living in Manhattan NY.
Jacob KISCH, 37, born in Bohemia, wife Carrie, 22, born in Prussia, living
in Manhattan NY.
Herman KISCH, 34, born in Germany, wife Josephine, 25, born in Germany, with
son Edward, 7, and daughter Harriet, 1, living in Newark NJ.
Jennie ROSENBERG, 28, born in Bohemia, with husband Solomon, 32, born in
Prussia, living in Manhattan NY.

LDS IGI yields the following:

Ludwig KISCH, born in Bohemia, son of Isak KISCH and Sarah POPER, married
Mathilde SAAR, born in Bohemia, daughter of Herman SAAR and Anna GETREUER,
on 14.10.1866 in Manhattan NY.
Ida, born 15.07.1867 Manhattan NY, daughter of Ludwig KISCH and Mathilde
SOOR.
Louise A., born in NY, daughter of Ludwig KISCH and Matilda SOHR.

Jacob KISCH, born in 'Liebel' Bohemia, son of Isaac KISCH and Sarah POPPER,
married Carrie NATHAN, born in Neuwied Prussia, daughter of Moritz NATHAN
and Eliza DIETZ, on 28.12.1879 in Manhattan NY.
Ella, born 28.07.1881 Manhattan NY, daughter of Jacob KISCH and Carry
NATHAN.

Herman KISCH, born in Bohemia, son of Isaac KISCH and Sara POPPER, married
Josephine BLYER, born in Bohemia, daughter of Samuel BLYER and Sophia
ZEIMER, on 01.09.1872 in Manhattan NY.
Edward, born 17.06.1873 Manhattan NY, son of Herman KISCH and Josephine
BLEYER.

Jeni KISCH, born in Prague Bohemia, daughter of Isaac KISCH and Sara ROPPER,
married Solomom ROSENBERG, born in Warszawskiego Poland, son of Samuel
ROSENBERG and Rosa LINGER, on 26.05.1872 Manhattan NY.

Apparently the 4 of them had moved to the US.

Question is if there is just one set of Jacob, Samuel (Semi) and Julia or if
there are 2 sets. Key in this whole story is Jacob. If there's only 1 set,
Jacob must have moved to the US between 1865 (police record) and 1879
(marriage record) and he must have returned to Prague before 1893-5 (birth
of his daughter) to marry Marie/Emma FLUSSER.
If there are 2 sets then I have no clue where the other set came from,
because they can't be found in the Conscriptions database nor are they
mentioned by Paul Jacobi.

Raymond van Kooyk, the Netherlands

Is anyone familiar with personal ads that might have been placed by
immigrants seeking relationships with other immigrants >from the same part
of the world who had settled in the New York City area? Family legend has it
that my parents met in this way through a personal ad placed by my maternal
grandmother to find a companion for my mother. Since all elders in the
family are now deceased, I wonder if anyone has had a similar story to tell
and might know which newspaper(s) provided this type of posting during the
late 1930's early 1940's period in the New York City area.

Please respond privately. Thanks.

Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA

Is anyone familiar with personal ads that might have been placed by
immigrants seeking relationships with other immigrants >from the same part
of the world who had settled in the New York City area? Family legend has it
that my parents met in this way through a personal ad placed by my maternal
grandmother to find a companion for my mother. Since all elders in the
family are now deceased, I wonder if anyone has had a similar story to tell
and might know which newspaper(s) provided this type of posting during the
late 1930's early 1940's period in the New York City area.

Please respond privately. Thanks.

Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA