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making a map with pins for ancestors #general

Martha Forsyth
 

Judi Wagner asked:
Is there a way to make a map and put in pins with names and coordinates
for all the places and family names that our ancestors lived in?
It is a great way to see how all the families involved lived and moved
within a certain area across lines that changed as countries and names
changed
Anyone have any experience with this?
I've done this using Google Maps. It's a bit tedious to learn their
system, but you can mark the places you want, put in the information
about them that you want, organize (or reorganize as it grows) the list
of places where you usually see "directions", choose the shape and color
of your "pins" (e.g., different colors for different branches of the
family), etc.

Actually, come to think of it, Google Earth will let you do that too -
in a slightly different way. Judi, if you want to see my Philadelphia
map, contact me privately and I'll send you the link.

Best, Martha Forsyth
Newton, MA

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen making a map with pins for ancestors #general

Martha Forsyth
 

Judi Wagner asked:
Is there a way to make a map and put in pins with names and coordinates
for all the places and family names that our ancestors lived in?
It is a great way to see how all the families involved lived and moved
within a certain area across lines that changed as countries and names
changed
Anyone have any experience with this?
I've done this using Google Maps. It's a bit tedious to learn their
system, but you can mark the places you want, put in the information
about them that you want, organize (or reorganize as it grows) the list
of places where you usually see "directions", choose the shape and color
of your "pins" (e.g., different colors for different branches of the
family), etc.

Actually, come to think of it, Google Earth will let you do that too -
in a slightly different way. Judi, if you want to see my Philadelphia
map, contact me privately and I'll send you the link.

Best, Martha Forsyth
Newton, MA

Re: Naujadvaris- other names #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

loren greenberg wrote on 17 dec 2012 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

I would appreciate your input.
I am looking for a town named Naujadvaris ( Lithuania / Poland /
Belarus). Is this town also called Novyy Dvor?
If so, is it located in Lida, Vilna Gub. ?
JewishGen Gazetteer, the Stetlseeker, shows:

Gervenai, Naudvarys, Novyy Dvor
populated place
55°06' N 23°18' E
Lithuania
85.1 miles WNW of Vilnius 54°41' N 25°19' E

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
Visit [recently changed URL]: <http://synagogeenschede.nl/>

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naujadvaris- other names #general

Evertjan. <exxjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

loren greenberg wrote on 17 dec 2012 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

I would appreciate your input.
I am looking for a town named Naujadvaris ( Lithuania / Poland /
Belarus). Is this town also called Novyy Dvor?
If so, is it located in Lida, Vilna Gub. ?
JewishGen Gazetteer, the Stetlseeker, shows:

Gervenai, Naudvarys, Novyy Dvor
populated place
55°06' N 23°18' E
Lithuania
85.1 miles WNW of Vilnius 54°41' N 25°19' E

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
Visit [recently changed URL]: <http://synagogeenschede.nl/>

Re: Need Suggestions Regarding Finding Records for a Newly Found Fall River, MA Family #general

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Linda Silverman Shefler wrote: < I was surprised to find both birth and
death records for an unnamed male NULMAN and for Schmoel NULMAN. It appears
they were twins, born 26 Jun 1912. The unnamed twin died the same day. These
twins were the babies of John and Rose (nee SAVITSKY) NULMAN of Fall River.
I was rather floored as I'd never heard of either John or Rose before. I
went looking for additional records for them on Ancestry and only found the
1940 census. Rose (1885) was a widow living with three sons: William
(1913), Benjamin (1915) and Morris (1917). They were still living in Fall
River in 1940. For the life of me I cannot find any additional records for
any of them! >

Ancestry wildcard searches turned up several Rose NULMAN listings in Fall
River MA city directories but none could have been Rose NULMAN 55 widow at
26 Plain Fall River with sons William 27, Benny 25 and Morris 23 in the 1940
census and the family was not found in earlier censuses.

One final idea solved the mystery!

Family Search Fall River MA birth records list twins "stillborn" and Schmoel
NULMAN born June 26, 1912 to parents John (occupation grocer) and Rose
SAVITSKY, both born Russia, residence 132 Flint.

An Ancestry U.S. City Directories search
< http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=2469 > for John (no surname),
lived in Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts (exact), any event 1912 (exact),
keyword 132 Flint (exact) listed one result in The Fall River [1912]
Directory on page 437 - NEWMAN John C grocer 127 Plain h 132 Flint.

In the 1920 census, John NEWMAN 49 (clerk-grocery store) and wife Rose 45
both born Russia with children Samuel 15 Annie 12 born Russia and William 7,
Benjamin 5 and Maurice 2 born Massachusetts lived at 26 Plane Street. In the
1930 census, John 53 (storekeeper-grocery), Rosa 50 both born Russia and
children William 17, Frank 15 and Morris 12 born Massachusetts lived at the
same address, also where widow Rose lived in 1940.

Bette Stoop Mas
USA

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need Suggestions Regarding Finding Records for a Newly Found Fall River, MA Family #general

bette_sscf <bette_sscf@...>
 

Linda Silverman Shefler wrote: < I was surprised to find both birth and
death records for an unnamed male NULMAN and for Schmoel NULMAN. It appears
they were twins, born 26 Jun 1912. The unnamed twin died the same day. These
twins were the babies of John and Rose (nee SAVITSKY) NULMAN of Fall River.
I was rather floored as I'd never heard of either John or Rose before. I
went looking for additional records for them on Ancestry and only found the
1940 census. Rose (1885) was a widow living with three sons: William
(1913), Benjamin (1915) and Morris (1917). They were still living in Fall
River in 1940. For the life of me I cannot find any additional records for
any of them! >

Ancestry wildcard searches turned up several Rose NULMAN listings in Fall
River MA city directories but none could have been Rose NULMAN 55 widow at
26 Plain Fall River with sons William 27, Benny 25 and Morris 23 in the 1940
census and the family was not found in earlier censuses.

One final idea solved the mystery!

Family Search Fall River MA birth records list twins "stillborn" and Schmoel
NULMAN born June 26, 1912 to parents John (occupation grocer) and Rose
SAVITSKY, both born Russia, residence 132 Flint.

An Ancestry U.S. City Directories search
< http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=2469 > for John (no surname),
lived in Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts (exact), any event 1912 (exact),
keyword 132 Flint (exact) listed one result in The Fall River [1912]
Directory on page 437 - NEWMAN John C grocer 127 Plain h 132 Flint.

In the 1920 census, John NEWMAN 49 (clerk-grocery store) and wife Rose 45
both born Russia with children Samuel 15 Annie 12 born Russia and William 7,
Benjamin 5 and Maurice 2 born Massachusetts lived at 26 Plane Street. In the
1930 census, John 53 (storekeeper-grocery), Rosa 50 both born Russia and
children William 17, Frank 15 and Morris 12 born Massachusetts lived at the
same address, also where widow Rose lived in 1940.

Bette Stoop Mas
USA

Re: DjVu Browser Plug-in #lithuania

Hank Mishkoff
 

Thanks to all of you who wrote to reassure me that the DjVu Browser
Plug-in was safe. It downloaded painlessly, and it appears to work
just fine.

Thanks again.

Hank Mishkoff

MODERATOR'S NOTE: This thread is ended.

Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: DjVu Browser Plug-in #lithuania

Hank Mishkoff
 

Thanks to all of you who wrote to reassure me that the DjVu Browser
Plug-in was safe. It downloaded painlessly, and it appears to work
just fine.

Thanks again.

Hank Mishkoff

MODERATOR'S NOTE: This thread is ended.

ViewMate translation request - Polish #general

Thomas F. Weiss
 

I have posted a birth record (for Leon Maurycy Fruchter) in two parts
for which I would like a translation.

The first part of the birth record is on ViewMate at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25260
The record is the left-most column. I would like to know if indeed
Leon Maurycy is listed as illegitimate. I understand everything else
that it says in this part of the record.

The second part of the birth record is on ViewMate at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25261
The record is the left-most column.
I am especially interested in the entry at the bottom of the left-most
column, under Notes (Anmerkung). It mentions his father Joachim
Fruchter. What does it say?

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Many thanks for your assistance.

Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@...

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)

Re: Kovno Gubernia, Kaunas city, all-Lithuania directories newly searchable #lithuania

Jules Levin
 

Subject: Re: [litvaksig] Kovno Gubernia, Kaunas city, all-Lithuania
directories newly searchable

* Kaunas (City) Address Directories for 1930, 1932, 1933

* Kaunas (City) Medical Directories for 1928, 1929

* 1941 Lithuanian SSR Nationalized Businesses

* 1930 Lithuanian Primary School Teachers Directory
Perhaps potential users of these dictionaries should be alerted
to differences in the alphabetic order of letters in Lithuanian.

Thus the letter 'y' is inter-alphabetized with 'i',
so that a name beginning 'Ky-' will occur before a name beginning 'Ko-'.
On the other hand, the letter s with a wedge on top, signifying 'sh'--
is alphabetized after 's'.

Thus a name Sakiai --Yid. Shaky, will occur after all names starting
with 's' --Suvalkija, etc. There are numerous web sites that give the
Lithuanian alphabet in its correct order:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_alphabet .

Best to fellow Litvaks,
Jules Levin

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate translation request - Polish #general

Thomas F. Weiss
 

I have posted a birth record (for Leon Maurycy Fruchter) in two parts
for which I would like a translation.

The first part of the birth record is on ViewMate at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25260
The record is the left-most column. I would like to know if indeed
Leon Maurycy is listed as illegitimate. I understand everything else
that it says in this part of the record.

The second part of the birth record is on ViewMate at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25261
The record is the left-most column.
I am especially interested in the entry at the bottom of the left-most
column, under Notes (Anmerkung). It mentions his father Joachim
Fruchter. What does it say?

Please respond via the form provided in the ViewMate application.
Many thanks for your assistance.

Thomas Fischer Weiss
Newton, MA
USA
tfweiss@...

Researching:
FRENKEL (Buchach, Vienna); BUCHHALTER (Skalat); ENGEL (Vienna);
FISCHER (Hriskov, Schlan, Prague); FRAENKEL, FRUCHTER (Rozhnyatov,
Vienna); KATZ (Schlan); KLEPETAR (Jistebnice); MEISELS (Nadworna,
Vienna); OLLOP (Vienna); ORLIK (Pohor, Jistebnice, Benesov, Tabor);
QUADRATSTEIN (Vienna, Saarbrucken); VODICKA (Dobronitz, Jistebnice,
Benesov, Tabor)

Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Kovno Gubernia, Kaunas city, all-Lithuania directories newly searchable #lithuania

Jules Levin
 

Subject: Re: [litvaksig] Kovno Gubernia, Kaunas city, all-Lithuania
directories newly searchable

* Kaunas (City) Address Directories for 1930, 1932, 1933

* Kaunas (City) Medical Directories for 1928, 1929

* 1941 Lithuanian SSR Nationalized Businesses

* 1930 Lithuanian Primary School Teachers Directory
Perhaps potential users of these dictionaries should be alerted
to differences in the alphabetic order of letters in Lithuanian.

Thus the letter 'y' is inter-alphabetized with 'i',
so that a name beginning 'Ky-' will occur before a name beginning 'Ko-'.
On the other hand, the letter s with a wedge on top, signifying 'sh'--
is alphabetized after 's'.

Thus a name Sakiai --Yid. Shaky, will occur after all names starting
with 's' --Suvalkija, etc. There are numerous web sites that give the
Lithuanian alphabet in its correct order:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_alphabet .

Best to fellow Litvaks,
Jules Levin

Help with English Research #general

G. Wayne Jackson <gwjacks01_@...>
 

Hello,

I could use some help in finding a place for Jewish obits in England,
and reading other vital Jewish records.

Thanks

Wayne Jackson
Nashville, TN

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with English Research #general

G. Wayne Jackson <gwjacks01_@...>
 

Hello,

I could use some help in finding a place for Jewish obits in England,
and reading other vital Jewish records.

Thanks

Wayne Jackson
Nashville, TN

Where in Russia was Ida MANOWITZ born? #general

Pat Hamilton
 

Please help my family research by trying to read the name given
by her husband Nathan CHORNEY in 1920 in Philadelphia, PA, USA
when he applied for naturalisation.

I have posted the relevant section of this document to Viewmate.
Number 25259.

Is it possible to look at marriage licenses, such as theirs? Might
it give additional information?

Nathan CHORNEY was the brother of my grandfather Lionel BLACK.
They were sons of Tsal Tcherny (>from Lionel's name - Levi-Itzkhok
Tsalevich TCHERNY) and born in Belaya Tserkov in Kiev Gubernia.

Nathan reached USA on the 'Amerika' in 1913, via Hamburg, aged 19
(b 1893) but I cannot read what he gave as his father's name, so
will post that too, but it does not look like Tsal or Saul.

In 1947 when Nathan Chorney applied for a US Social Security
number he gave his parents' names as Charles Chorney and Esther
BRODY.

He named his daughter Esther in 1931 - did he know (or assume)
that his mother was dead? We have no proof that his mother was an
Esther BRODY. (She would be my great-grandmother). Where was she
from?
Lionel was much older, born 1885 - so were there siblings in
between? Lionel came to London, England in 1912 with wife and two
sons.

They each translated their surname in different ways: Nathan
CHORNEY in USA, and Lionel BLACK in London, England.

Although these brothers did not give the same name for their father
on the few documents we can find - they did both say they came >from
the same town, now in Ukraine.

I really would like to know who their parents were, when married,
and how many children they had. Any help would be much appreciated.

Pat Hamilton (Black)

CHORNY, Belaya Tserkov; DIVINSKY Vasil'kov, MANOWITZ, ? Russsia,
LANDESBERG m GINSBURG, Minsk

MODERATOR NOTE: The URL of the image is
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Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where in Russia was Ida MANOWITZ born? #general

Pat Hamilton
 

Please help my family research by trying to read the name given
by her husband Nathan CHORNEY in 1920 in Philadelphia, PA, USA
when he applied for naturalisation.

I have posted the relevant section of this document to Viewmate.
Number 25259.

Is it possible to look at marriage licenses, such as theirs? Might
it give additional information?

Nathan CHORNEY was the brother of my grandfather Lionel BLACK.
They were sons of Tsal Tcherny (>from Lionel's name - Levi-Itzkhok
Tsalevich TCHERNY) and born in Belaya Tserkov in Kiev Gubernia.

Nathan reached USA on the 'Amerika' in 1913, via Hamburg, aged 19
(b 1893) but I cannot read what he gave as his father's name, so
will post that too, but it does not look like Tsal or Saul.

In 1947 when Nathan Chorney applied for a US Social Security
number he gave his parents' names as Charles Chorney and Esther
BRODY.

He named his daughter Esther in 1931 - did he know (or assume)
that his mother was dead? We have no proof that his mother was an
Esther BRODY. (She would be my great-grandmother). Where was she
from?
Lionel was much older, born 1885 - so were there siblings in
between? Lionel came to London, England in 1912 with wife and two
sons.

They each translated their surname in different ways: Nathan
CHORNEY in USA, and Lionel BLACK in London, England.

Although these brothers did not give the same name for their father
on the few documents we can find - they did both say they came >from
the same town, now in Ukraine.

I really would like to know who their parents were, when married,
and how many children they had. Any help would be much appreciated.

Pat Hamilton (Black)

CHORNY, Belaya Tserkov; DIVINSKY Vasil'kov, MANOWITZ, ? Russsia,
LANDESBERG m GINSBURG, Minsk

MODERATOR NOTE: The URL of the image is
<http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM25259>.
Please reply privately or on the ViewMate response form.

Shtot, shtetl, dorf, yishev #general

Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett <bk3@...>
 

With regard to the question of shtot, shtetl, dorf, please see:

Shtetl, YIVO Encyclopedia
http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Shtetl

Introduction, Life Is With People: The Culture of the Shtetl
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/bkg/web/liwp.pdf

Imagining Europe, In Divergent Centers: Shaping Jewish Cultures in
Israel and America
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/bkg/web/imagining.pdf

Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett
Museum of the History of Polish Jews, Warsaw

Records from AGAD archives (Fond 300) #general

Israel P
 

I have begun preparing a list of records that I plan to order >from the
AGAD archives.

If you wish to join this order please contact me, after making sure that
the records you want appear in JRI-Poland in the AGAD archives, fond 300.

This order will probably go out during the first days of January.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Shtot, shtetl, dorf, yishev #general

Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett <bk3@...>
 

With regard to the question of shtot, shtetl, dorf, please see:

Shtetl, YIVO Encyclopedia
http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Shtetl

Introduction, Life Is With People: The Culture of the Shtetl
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/bkg/web/liwp.pdf

Imagining Europe, In Divergent Centers: Shaping Jewish Cultures in
Israel and America
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/bkg/web/imagining.pdf

Barbara Kirshenblatt-Gimblett
Museum of the History of Polish Jews, Warsaw

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Records from AGAD archives (Fond 300) #general

Israel P
 

I have begun preparing a list of records that I plan to order >from the
AGAD archives.

If you wish to join this order please contact me, after making sure that
the records you want appear in JRI-Poland in the AGAD archives, fond 300.

This order will probably go out during the first days of January.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem