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Confirming or refuting information of prominent lineage #general

Melody Schloss
 

I researching my daughter-in-law=E2=80=99s genealogy. I am looking for some
reliable substantiating or refuting of the family claim of descent >from Rabbi Moshe
Isserles, the ReMA, and Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki RASHI.

Her line (that I know) includes the following: 3rd great grandparents:
Rabbi Todros Yacil TICKTIN and Gold REIZEL
4th great grandparents: Rabbi Moshe Nachum TICKTIN and Itka Chenia COHEN/CAHANA
5th great grandparents:Rabbi Shaul ben Yehoshua Heshel TICKTIN and Bat Yakov Yukil
Ish HOROWITZ (I do not know her given name)
5th great grandparents: Rabbi Chaim Moshe Aryeh COHEN/CAHANA and ???
6th great grandparents: Rabbi Yehoshua Heshil ben Efraim Fischel TICKTIN and ????
6th great grandparents: Yakov Yukil halevi Ish HOROWITZ (of Vilkaviskis)
and Reizil MIRKES

Can anyone be of any assistance in where to find information on this line?

Thank you
Melody Schloss
California USA
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Confirming or refuting information of prominent lineage #general

Melody Schloss
 

I researching my daughter-in-law=E2=80=99s genealogy. I am looking for some
reliable substantiating or refuting of the family claim of descent >from Rabbi Moshe
Isserles, the ReMA, and Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki RASHI.

Her line (that I know) includes the following: 3rd great grandparents:
Rabbi Todros Yacil TICKTIN and Gold REIZEL
4th great grandparents: Rabbi Moshe Nachum TICKTIN and Itka Chenia COHEN/CAHANA
5th great grandparents:Rabbi Shaul ben Yehoshua Heshel TICKTIN and Bat Yakov Yukil
Ish HOROWITZ (I do not know her given name)
5th great grandparents: Rabbi Chaim Moshe Aryeh COHEN/CAHANA and ???
6th great grandparents: Rabbi Yehoshua Heshil ben Efraim Fischel TICKTIN and ????
6th great grandparents: Yakov Yukil halevi Ish HOROWITZ (of Vilkaviskis)
and Reizil MIRKES

Can anyone be of any assistance in where to find information on this line?

Thank you
Melody Schloss
California USA
Sarah ABRAMS (ABRAMOWITZ), Turn of the 19-20 cent. Boston #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

In trying to research descendants of two of my gggrandmother's children, I came
across a Sarah ABRAMS who married a divorcee Sam COHEN in Boston in 1903.

My ggreat grandmother , Gitel ABRAMOWITZ came to New Haven, Ct. as a widow with 4
children: David (?), Sarah, Meyer and Kalman. As a greatgrandson of the above Meyer
I have contact with his descendants and those of Kalman. My mother writes in her
autobiography that she met Sarah on Coney Island in the early 1930s but, we guess
due to religious differences their contact was very short.

My mother also writes that David had gone to Boston >from New Haven to "find his
future. My mother presumes that David changed his family name at somepoint and this
could make sense that Sarah shortened her name >from ABRAMOWITZ to ABRAMS.

If any of the above sounds familiar to anyone I would be happy to hear >from them.

Shana Tova (Happy New Year)

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sarah ABRAMS (ABRAMOWITZ), Turn of the 19-20 cent. Boston #general

Yonatan Ben-Ari
 

In trying to research descendants of two of my gggrandmother's children, I came
across a Sarah ABRAMS who married a divorcee Sam COHEN in Boston in 1903.

My ggreat grandmother , Gitel ABRAMOWITZ came to New Haven, Ct. as a widow with 4
children: David (?), Sarah, Meyer and Kalman. As a greatgrandson of the above Meyer
I have contact with his descendants and those of Kalman. My mother writes in her
autobiography that she met Sarah on Coney Island in the early 1930s but, we guess
due to religious differences their contact was very short.

My mother also writes that David had gone to Boston >from New Haven to "find his
future. My mother presumes that David changed his family name at somepoint and this
could make sense that Sarah shortened her name >from ABRAMOWITZ to ABRAMS.

If any of the above sounds familiar to anyone I would be happy to hear >from them.

Shana Tova (Happy New Year)

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem
New IAJGS Member - Western North Carolina Jewish Genealogical Society #general

Nolan Altman
 

On behalf of the IAJGS Board and our current membership, it is with great
pleasure that we welcome the Western North Carolina Jewish Genealogical
Society as the newest member of our growing family of IAJGS organizations.
For more information about the Asheville based group, please contact their
president, Barbara Weitz (weitzb@...) or Vice-President Barbara Newman
(newman.barbara49@...).

The group's next meeting will be held Sunday, September 23rd at 4:00 PM at
the Asheville JCC (236 Charlotte St, Asheville, NC). Speaker Sharon Fahrer
will present "Meeting Your Ancestors". Sharon is the owner of
History@Handit and specializes in applied history, collecting people's
stories and putting research into usable forms such as interpretive panels,
exhibits and books. Sharon has done extensive work creating an archive on
Jewish Life in Western North Carolina at the University of North Carolina
Asheville. Most recently she chaired the 37th annual meeting of the Southern
Jewish Historical Society in Asheville.

If you are interested in more information on the group or this program,
please contact either Barbara at the email address above or see their
Facebook page at:
https://www.facebook.com/Western-North-Carolina-Jewish-Genealogical-Society-
1742784945774673/

The International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) was
formed in 1988 as a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization. IAJGS is an umbrella
group of organizations which provides a common voice for issues of
significance to its members, to advocate for and educate about our
genealogical avocation, and to coordinate items such as the annual
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy. For more information on
IAJGS, please see our website at http://www.iajgs.org/blog/ or contact me at
membership@...

Nolan Altman
Membership Development Committee Chair
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New IAJGS Member - Western North Carolina Jewish Genealogical Society #general

Nolan Altman
 

On behalf of the IAJGS Board and our current membership, it is with great
pleasure that we welcome the Western North Carolina Jewish Genealogical
Society as the newest member of our growing family of IAJGS organizations.
For more information about the Asheville based group, please contact their
president, Barbara Weitz (weitzb@...) or Vice-President Barbara Newman
(newman.barbara49@...).

The group's next meeting will be held Sunday, September 23rd at 4:00 PM at
the Asheville JCC (236 Charlotte St, Asheville, NC). Speaker Sharon Fahrer
will present "Meeting Your Ancestors". Sharon is the owner of
History@Handit and specializes in applied history, collecting people's
stories and putting research into usable forms such as interpretive panels,
exhibits and books. Sharon has done extensive work creating an archive on
Jewish Life in Western North Carolina at the University of North Carolina
Asheville. Most recently she chaired the 37th annual meeting of the Southern
Jewish Historical Society in Asheville.

If you are interested in more information on the group or this program,
please contact either Barbara at the email address above or see their
Facebook page at:
https://www.facebook.com/Western-North-Carolina-Jewish-Genealogical-Society-
1742784945774673/

The International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies (IAJGS) was
formed in 1988 as a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization. IAJGS is an umbrella
group of organizations which provides a common voice for issues of
significance to its members, to advocate for and educate about our
genealogical avocation, and to coordinate items such as the annual
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy. For more information on
IAJGS, please see our website at http://www.iajgs.org/blog/ or contact me at
membership@...

Nolan Altman
Membership Development Committee Chair
Raise The Roof, Reconstructed Wooden Synagogue Roof at POLIN Museum #galicia

Jan Meisels Allen
 

For those of us who attended the outstanding IAJGS Conference in Warsaw
and visited the POLIN Museum we were in awe of the magnificent
reconstruction of the ceiling >from the Gwozdziec Synagogue -- the
centerpiece of the POLIN Museum. Temple Beth Am in Los Angeles, CA is
installing a replica in its chapel for Rosh Hashanah. There is a movie, Raise
the Roof, about the ceiling at the POLIN Museum which will be shown at
American Jewish University on September 27 at 1:00PM. Cost is $6.00.
See: https://tinyurl.com/y7kqf6wy
Original url:
https://www.aju.edu/whizin-center-continuing-education/events/Movie-Matinees-at-the-Sperber-Raise-the-Roof

For directions see:
https://www.aju.edu/about-aju/our-campuses/map-and-directions.
To learn about the film see: https://www.polishsynagogue.com/about-the-film/.
The trailer may be seen at: https://vimeo.com/107332820

I have no affiliation with American University or POLIN Museum or the
producers of the video and am sharing this solely for the information of
the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR TOWN: Gwozdiec was a Galician town, near Kolomyja. It's now
Hvizdets, Ukraine.
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Raise The Roof, Reconstructed Wooden Synagogue Roof at POLIN Museum #galicia

Jan Meisels Allen
 

For those of us who attended the outstanding IAJGS Conference in Warsaw
and visited the POLIN Museum we were in awe of the magnificent
reconstruction of the ceiling >from the Gwozdziec Synagogue -- the
centerpiece of the POLIN Museum. Temple Beth Am in Los Angeles, CA is
installing a replica in its chapel for Rosh Hashanah. There is a movie, Raise
the Roof, about the ceiling at the POLIN Museum which will be shown at
American Jewish University on September 27 at 1:00PM. Cost is $6.00.
See: https://tinyurl.com/y7kqf6wy
Original url:
https://www.aju.edu/whizin-center-continuing-education/events/Movie-Matinees-at-the-Sperber-Raise-the-Roof

For directions see:
https://www.aju.edu/about-aju/our-campuses/map-and-directions.
To learn about the film see: https://www.polishsynagogue.com/about-the-film/.
The trailer may be seen at: https://vimeo.com/107332820

I have no affiliation with American University or POLIN Museum or the
producers of the video and am sharing this solely for the information of
the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR TOWN: Gwozdiec was a Galician town, near Kolomyja. It's now
Hvizdets, Ukraine.
"Documenting the Vilna Ghetto Library" Sept. 16, at JGSLA #lithuania

Jrbaston
 

"Documenting the Vilna Ghetto Library"
Presented by Judy Baston
Sunday, Sept. 16 1:30 p.m.

JGSLA Meeting

Burton Sperber Jewish Community Library at American Jewish University
15600 Mulholland Drive, Los Angeles

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Vilna - known as the Jerusalem of Lithuania - had a strong cultural
tradition that endured and flourished even after the Vilna Ghetto
was established in 1941.

Perhaps the most important cultural institution in the Ghetto was
the Vilna Ghetto Library; it was considered the only fully-functioning
library in a Holocaust-era ghetto.

When Judy Baston discovered that her three young cousins in the
Vilna Ghetto had been on the list of Ghetto Library patrons, she was
stunned to realize that the grimness of their daily lives had been
relieved even a bit by the stories in the books they read. Further
research led her to uncover additional documentation >from the Vilna
Ghetto Library in the Lithuanian State Central Archive.

Judy will share information about the lists of readers in the Library,
lists of workers in the Library and even a list of readers who did not
return books to the Library. In addition, she will discuss the question,
"What did Vilna Ghetto Library patrons read? She will cite reports >from
two Ghetto librarians that provide a detailed look at which authors
and titles were read by different kinds of Ghetto Library patrons.

Judy Baston is an IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award winner (2015).
A longtime Board member and former Vice President of LitvakSIG, Judy
coordinates LitvakSIG's Lida District and Oshmiany District Research
Groups. She is also on the Executive Committee and Board of JRI-Poland.
For nearly 20 years, she has moderated the Discussion Groups of
LitvakSIG and JRI-Poland, and she also moderates the BialyGen
and Lodz discussion groups. She has been involved with the Jewish
Community Library in San Francisco for 26 years and coordinates
their monthly Genealogy Clinic.

The JGSLA Traveling Library and Mentors Corner will be available
starting one-half hour before program time.

JGSLA MEMBERS FREE - GUESTS $5.00
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania "Documenting the Vilna Ghetto Library" Sept. 16, at JGSLA #lithuania

Jrbaston
 

"Documenting the Vilna Ghetto Library"
Presented by Judy Baston
Sunday, Sept. 16 1:30 p.m.

JGSLA Meeting

Burton Sperber Jewish Community Library at American Jewish University
15600 Mulholland Drive, Los Angeles

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Vilna - known as the Jerusalem of Lithuania - had a strong cultural
tradition that endured and flourished even after the Vilna Ghetto
was established in 1941.

Perhaps the most important cultural institution in the Ghetto was
the Vilna Ghetto Library; it was considered the only fully-functioning
library in a Holocaust-era ghetto.

When Judy Baston discovered that her three young cousins in the
Vilna Ghetto had been on the list of Ghetto Library patrons, she was
stunned to realize that the grimness of their daily lives had been
relieved even a bit by the stories in the books they read. Further
research led her to uncover additional documentation >from the Vilna
Ghetto Library in the Lithuanian State Central Archive.

Judy will share information about the lists of readers in the Library,
lists of workers in the Library and even a list of readers who did not
return books to the Library. In addition, she will discuss the question,
"What did Vilna Ghetto Library patrons read? She will cite reports >from
two Ghetto librarians that provide a detailed look at which authors
and titles were read by different kinds of Ghetto Library patrons.

Judy Baston is an IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award winner (2015).
A longtime Board member and former Vice President of LitvakSIG, Judy
coordinates LitvakSIG's Lida District and Oshmiany District Research
Groups. She is also on the Executive Committee and Board of JRI-Poland.
For nearly 20 years, she has moderated the Discussion Groups of
LitvakSIG and JRI-Poland, and she also moderates the BialyGen
and Lodz discussion groups. She has been involved with the Jewish
Community Library in San Francisco for 26 years and coordinates
their monthly Genealogy Clinic.

The JGSLA Traveling Library and Mentors Corner will be available
starting one-half hour before program time.

JGSLA MEMBERS FREE - GUESTS $5.00
Searching for Kaswin Family in France (Paris) #general

Kalila Borghini <zuleika42801@...>
 

Hello,

Looking for maternal grandfather’s family in Paris. My sister visited them in the
mid-70s. His brother was an MD and he and his family entertained her for the day.
She remembers a child with them who was allowed to pee in the street :) (that’s a
grin). That’s about all the info she has.

My grandfather’s name is Joseph with various spellings of his last name including
Cassen, Katwin. He was born in Galicia/Austria in 1888. My sister says the family
in Paris was Kaswin.

Thanks for any suggestions you might have.

Kalila Borghini
Glen Spey, NY
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Kaswin Family in France (Paris) #general

Kalila Borghini <zuleika42801@...>
 

Hello,

Looking for maternal grandfather’s family in Paris. My sister visited them in the
mid-70s. His brother was an MD and he and his family entertained her for the day.
She remembers a child with them who was allowed to pee in the street :) (that’s a
grin). That’s about all the info she has.

My grandfather’s name is Joseph with various spellings of his last name including
Cassen, Katwin. He was born in Galicia/Austria in 1888. My sister says the family
in Paris was Kaswin.

Thanks for any suggestions you might have.

Kalila Borghini
Glen Spey, NY
Passaic birth certificate, and other certificates vs. original records #general

Mark Fearer
 

I have my mother’s 1934 “Certificate of Birth Registration” >from Passaic, which
could be interpreted to look like a diploma, with all the information you
described. What’s important to know is that in general, clerks are creating - or
certifying - the basic facts that may well come >from another record, such as a
birth register. My mother’s certificate states when she was born, but is undated,
indicating it likely was created well after the event. As good genealogists, we
should alway search for a copy of the original records, which is what you appear to
be doing, since transcription mistakes are possible. Whether the certificate
(birth, marriage or death) is “official” or not, it may not be the original record,
unless we specifically asked for that version.
Mark Fearer

David Perle wrote:

I have an interesting-looking "Certificate and Record of Birth" >from my grandma
in Paterson, NJ (Passaic County) in 1927. What's interesting is that it looks
more like a diploma than any other birth certificate that I've seen, such as her
father's in the same city 22 years prior.

So--am I right to suspect that this 'birth diploma' isn't really her full
official birth certificate and I should probably go ahead and order a formal
copy?
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passaic birth certificate, and other certificates vs. original records #general

Mark Fearer
 

I have my mother’s 1934 “Certificate of Birth Registration” >from Passaic, which
could be interpreted to look like a diploma, with all the information you
described. What’s important to know is that in general, clerks are creating - or
certifying - the basic facts that may well come >from another record, such as a
birth register. My mother’s certificate states when she was born, but is undated,
indicating it likely was created well after the event. As good genealogists, we
should alway search for a copy of the original records, which is what you appear to
be doing, since transcription mistakes are possible. Whether the certificate
(birth, marriage or death) is “official” or not, it may not be the original record,
unless we specifically asked for that version.
Mark Fearer

David Perle wrote:

I have an interesting-looking "Certificate and Record of Birth" >from my grandma
in Paterson, NJ (Passaic County) in 1927. What's interesting is that it looks
more like a diploma than any other birth certificate that I've seen, such as her
father's in the same city 22 years prior.

So--am I right to suspect that this 'birth diploma' isn't really her full
official birth certificate and I should probably go ahead and order a formal
copy?
Beth Hamedrash Hagodol in NYC #general

Melissa Anderson
 

Does anyone know if there are any records available >from Beth Hamedrash Hagodol in
New York City? I realize there was a devastating fire in 2017 but had heard the
torahs and some records had been saved.

My husband’s great-great-grandparents, Ida (Reibstein) and Jacob Cummings lived 2
blocks >from Beth Hamedrash Hagodol in the lower eastside of NYC in the 1890’s and
early 1900’s. I believe they immigrated separately >from Lithuania in the 1880’s and
coincidentally Rabbi Jacob Joseph arrived >from Lithuania in 1888 to lead that
congregation. My husband’s great-grandfather was their oldest child born in 1889.

I’m trying to track down marriage records but haven’t been successful through
JewishGen, Steve Morse or Ancestry. I thought maybe the synagogue might have some
pertinent records.

Thanks for any hints you might have!
Melissa Anderson
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Beth Hamedrash Hagodol in NYC #general

Melissa Anderson
 

Does anyone know if there are any records available >from Beth Hamedrash Hagodol in
New York City? I realize there was a devastating fire in 2017 but had heard the
torahs and some records had been saved.

My husband’s great-great-grandparents, Ida (Reibstein) and Jacob Cummings lived 2
blocks >from Beth Hamedrash Hagodol in the lower eastside of NYC in the 1890’s and
early 1900’s. I believe they immigrated separately >from Lithuania in the 1880’s and
coincidentally Rabbi Jacob Joseph arrived >from Lithuania in 1888 to lead that
congregation. My husband’s great-grandfather was their oldest child born in 1889.

I’m trying to track down marriage records but haven’t been successful through
JewishGen, Steve Morse or Ancestry. I thought maybe the synagogue might have some
pertinent records.

Thanks for any hints you might have!
Melissa Anderson
Making a copy at the National Archives Kew #general

rcbernstein
 

Hi all,

Is anyone is going to the National Archives in the near future who can
make a copy of a naturalisation for me? I would be happy to pay expenses.

Harris Richter. >from Russia. Resident in Wakefield, Yorkshire. Certificate
BNA4691 issued 9 June 1949.

HO 334/324/4691

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11912281

Please be in touch.

TIA,
Ruvane Bernstein.

(Beitar, Israel)
Researching ROSEN/ROSMARIN/RICHTER (Vitebsk),
ROTBLAT/LICHTMAN/MORGENSZTERN (Biala Podlaska), BORENSZTEJN (Wolbrom)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Making a copy at the National Archives Kew #general

rcbernstein
 

Hi all,

Is anyone is going to the National Archives in the near future who can
make a copy of a naturalisation for me? I would be happy to pay expenses.

Harris Richter. >from Russia. Resident in Wakefield, Yorkshire. Certificate
BNA4691 issued 9 June 1949.

HO 334/324/4691

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11912281

Please be in touch.

TIA,
Ruvane Bernstein.

(Beitar, Israel)
Researching ROSEN/ROSMARIN/RICHTER (Vitebsk),
ROTBLAT/LICHTMAN/MORGENSZTERN (Biala Podlaska), BORENSZTEJN (Wolbrom)
Trying to find town #hungary

Larry Briggs
 

We have a friend whose Great Grandfather left then-Hungary to come to =
the US. The town he came >from looks like Tolobolfola.=20

I could not find it online currently nor could I find it through the =
Town Finder on Jewishgen. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Larry Briggs

Moderator: We might be able to provide assistance if you provided the name of the
great-grandfather. This appears to be a misspelling of the name of a place that might
start with Tol... and conclude end with suffix "falva" or "falu".
Hungary SIG #Hungary Trying to find town #hungary

Larry Briggs
 

We have a friend whose Great Grandfather left then-Hungary to come to =
the US. The town he came >from looks like Tolobolfola.=20

I could not find it online currently nor could I find it through the =
Town Finder on Jewishgen. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Larry Briggs

Moderator: We might be able to provide assistance if you provided the name of the
great-grandfather. This appears to be a misspelling of the name of a place that might
start with Tol... and conclude end with suffix "falva" or "falu".
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