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Re: Software problem #general

Avrohom Krauss <avkrauss@...>
 

Much thanks to all the kind and helpful Genners. I tried to respond to all
those who have helped, but if I missed you, please consider this a personal
thanks. For the benefit of all those who may need advice, I will post the
outcome of my disaster story. Baruch Hashem my family
file is back in order!
After trying some ideas >from those who responded and tinkering a bit -bingo.
Back to normal! For the benefit of all, let me try to explain what to do.
The bottom line is to make a copy of the corrupted file and delete all the
*bad guys*-those that you can't get to. Get *missing* people >from an old
file,
by marking them in the old file, and create a GEDCOM file of *marked
individuals*. Then import the GEDCOM file into the copy. Delete any
duplicates.
In the end, my index switched numbers of three individuals. Now the index
has 1576 individuals but the numbers go thu 1579. My desire for everything
to be in place has not been salvaged- a small, insignificant price to pay
for the return of my family file! My only question is, my new file
reliable? What can be done to ensure this doesn't happen again?

Avrohom Krauss
acvkrauss@...
Telz-Stone Israel


Re: Ravensbruck (Humboldt Universitat) #general

Juergen Stockburger <stockbur@...>
 

Daniel Kazez wrote:
This dissertation seems to hold promise for information regarding the
Ravensbruck death camp: [...]
This is an unpublished 'diplomarbeit', a rough equivalent of a
Master's thesis. These are often not widely disseminated, typically
only a few copies exist. I thought at first I should be able to find
contact information for the thesis advisor, Kurt Patzold, but it
appears he is an emeritus, with no contact information listed on the
web site of Humboldt-Universitat. In fact, it appears that the
'Sektion Geschichte' was dissolved during a major restructuring of
Berlin's three universities after German reunification. Maybe HU's
public relations office can help you to contact him or the authors:

mailto:hu-presse@...

An alternative avenue may be through Ravensbruck Memorial Museum -
they might provide a xerox copy at cost to an overseas researcher.

Juergen Stockburger <Stockburger@...>
Stuttgart, Germany


Re: Washington Heights #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

During the Depression, landlords would give the first month's rent free in
New York. Thus, many families moved quite frequently to take advantage of a
rent free apartment for a month.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

Original Message:

From: Steve Gabai [mailto:sgabai@...]

Vivian,

My grandfather opened a beauty parlor in Washington Heights in 1939. It was
called Damor. Eventually, my father and uncle took it over and it lasted
until the early 1970s.

Damor was at 813 W. 187th St. My gps lived at 250 Cabrni, which was pretty
much at 187th.

My gps had friends, the Arditti's and Benveniste's.

My gf moved a lot too, whenever they raised the rent.

Steve.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Software problem #general

Avrohom Krauss <avkrauss@...>
 

Much thanks to all the kind and helpful Genners. I tried to respond to all
those who have helped, but if I missed you, please consider this a personal
thanks. For the benefit of all those who may need advice, I will post the
outcome of my disaster story. Baruch Hashem my family
file is back in order!
After trying some ideas >from those who responded and tinkering a bit -bingo.
Back to normal! For the benefit of all, let me try to explain what to do.
The bottom line is to make a copy of the corrupted file and delete all the
*bad guys*-those that you can't get to. Get *missing* people >from an old
file,
by marking them in the old file, and create a GEDCOM file of *marked
individuals*. Then import the GEDCOM file into the copy. Delete any
duplicates.
In the end, my index switched numbers of three individuals. Now the index
has 1576 individuals but the numbers go thu 1579. My desire for everything
to be in place has not been salvaged- a small, insignificant price to pay
for the return of my family file! My only question is, my new file
reliable? What can be done to ensure this doesn't happen again?

Avrohom Krauss
acvkrauss@...
Telz-Stone Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ravensbruck (Humboldt Universitat) #general

Juergen Stockburger <stockbur@...>
 

Daniel Kazez wrote:
This dissertation seems to hold promise for information regarding the
Ravensbruck death camp: [...]
This is an unpublished 'diplomarbeit', a rough equivalent of a
Master's thesis. These are often not widely disseminated, typically
only a few copies exist. I thought at first I should be able to find
contact information for the thesis advisor, Kurt Patzold, but it
appears he is an emeritus, with no contact information listed on the
web site of Humboldt-Universitat. In fact, it appears that the
'Sektion Geschichte' was dissolved during a major restructuring of
Berlin's three universities after German reunification. Maybe HU's
public relations office can help you to contact him or the authors:

mailto:hu-presse@...

An alternative avenue may be through Ravensbruck Memorial Museum -
they might provide a xerox copy at cost to an overseas researcher.

Juergen Stockburger <Stockburger@...>
Stuttgart, Germany


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Washington Heights #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

During the Depression, landlords would give the first month's rent free in
New York. Thus, many families moved quite frequently to take advantage of a
rent free apartment for a month.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

Original Message:

From: Steve Gabai [mailto:sgabai@...]

Vivian,

My grandfather opened a beauty parlor in Washington Heights in 1939. It was
called Damor. Eventually, my father and uncle took it over and it lasted
until the early 1970s.

Damor was at 813 W. 187th St. My gps lived at 250 Cabrni, which was pretty
much at 187th.

My gps had friends, the Arditti's and Benveniste's.

My gf moved a lot too, whenever they raised the rent.

Steve.


Jewish Communities Records-UK Forum launched #lodz #poland

Carol W. Skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

We are pleased to inform all interested researchers about a joint effort
on the part of JewishGen and the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great
Britain to preserve records of Jewish communities in the UK.

The aim of the Jewish Communities and Records UK (JCR-UK) project is to
record, in electronic format, genealogical and other historical information
about the UK Jewish Communities >from the mid 17th Century to the present
day, and to make this information freely available via the Internet.

For further information contact:
Laurence Harris computers@... JCR-UK Project Coordinator, JGSGB

The project will develop an integrated searchable database using records
from a variety of sources including:
· Birth, circumcision, marriage and burial records.
· Synagogue membership lists
· School pupil lists
· Trade directories
· Immigration records
· Jewish Charity records (including donation lists)
· Newspaper records.

The database is expected to cover about 500 Jewish communities, many of
which, unfortunately, do not exist any more.

We shall be working closely with a number of UK archives and Jewish
Communal organizations to identify relevant sources of data. The records
will be indexed, and where appropriate transcribed or captured as digital
images.

JGSGB will be responsible for coordinating the data gathering, indexing and
transcription of the records. JewishGen will provide the technical
infrastructure and know-how for the project.

The first phase of this project will be the launch of 'JCR-UK Discussion
Group', a free e-mail based discussion forum for those researching their
Jewish ancestors who lived in the UK, and for those interested in a
particular UK Jewish community or congregation. We shall be discussing
records available in the UK and research techniques, sharing information
and answering questions. The discussion group will be launched on Monday 8
July 2002. To join please use the Special Interest Group sign-up page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm select Subscribe, and then tick
the circle to the left of United Kingdom:
Jewish Communities and Records.

The second phase will be a web site and the release of the first batch of
records into the searchable database, which is expected to occur in
Autumn/Winter 2002.

John Berman, who formulated the idea and is the JCR-UK project manager,
commented:
" My own community of Grimsby will, in reality, not exist in another 10-15
years. All that will remain, unless we take action, will be a few books on
an obscure library shelf and some memories that will be lost when the
current generation passes on. This is something that will, no doubt,
happen to many other Jewish communities, if it has not already. The sense
of 'community' thorough stories, pictures and audio, is just as important
as hard genealogical data such as cemetery registers. It is vital that we
make such information available to the current generation and also preserve
it for posterity. The power of the Internet now provides us with the
perfect medium to achieve these objectives".

Laurence Harris, the JCR-UK Project Coordinator commented:
"The JCR-UK project will provide an invaluable on-line resource for both
genealogists and those interested in UK Jewish communities. I am delighted
that this project is being supported by the combined resources of both the
JGSGB who are the 'Centre of Excellence' for UK Jewish genealogical
research, and JewishGen with their unrivalled expertise in the use of the
Internet to benefit Jewish Genealogy".

Carol Skydell, the JewishGen Vice President for Special Projects said:
"JewishGen is so pleased to be able to provide this information as a public
service to the world wide community of those researching their Jewish
ancestry, history, culture and heritage. The joint JCR-UK project is just
one more piece of the massive grass roots effort creating another link in
the chain being forged by JewishGen towards preserving our history for
future generations."


Anthony Winner
Chairman, Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain
enquiries@...
www.jgsgb.org.uk


Carol Skydell
Vice President for Special Projects - JewishGen
cskydell@...
www.jewishgen.org


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Jewish Communities Records-UK Forum launched #lodz #poland

Carol W. Skydell <cwskydell@...>
 

We are pleased to inform all interested researchers about a joint effort
on the part of JewishGen and the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great
Britain to preserve records of Jewish communities in the UK.

The aim of the Jewish Communities and Records UK (JCR-UK) project is to
record, in electronic format, genealogical and other historical information
about the UK Jewish Communities >from the mid 17th Century to the present
day, and to make this information freely available via the Internet.

For further information contact:
Laurence Harris computers@... JCR-UK Project Coordinator, JGSGB

The project will develop an integrated searchable database using records
from a variety of sources including:
· Birth, circumcision, marriage and burial records.
· Synagogue membership lists
· School pupil lists
· Trade directories
· Immigration records
· Jewish Charity records (including donation lists)
· Newspaper records.

The database is expected to cover about 500 Jewish communities, many of
which, unfortunately, do not exist any more.

We shall be working closely with a number of UK archives and Jewish
Communal organizations to identify relevant sources of data. The records
will be indexed, and where appropriate transcribed or captured as digital
images.

JGSGB will be responsible for coordinating the data gathering, indexing and
transcription of the records. JewishGen will provide the technical
infrastructure and know-how for the project.

The first phase of this project will be the launch of 'JCR-UK Discussion
Group', a free e-mail based discussion forum for those researching their
Jewish ancestors who lived in the UK, and for those interested in a
particular UK Jewish community or congregation. We shall be discussing
records available in the UK and research techniques, sharing information
and answering questions. The discussion group will be launched on Monday 8
July 2002. To join please use the Special Interest Group sign-up page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm select Subscribe, and then tick
the circle to the left of United Kingdom:
Jewish Communities and Records.

The second phase will be a web site and the release of the first batch of
records into the searchable database, which is expected to occur in
Autumn/Winter 2002.

John Berman, who formulated the idea and is the JCR-UK project manager,
commented:
" My own community of Grimsby will, in reality, not exist in another 10-15
years. All that will remain, unless we take action, will be a few books on
an obscure library shelf and some memories that will be lost when the
current generation passes on. This is something that will, no doubt,
happen to many other Jewish communities, if it has not already. The sense
of 'community' thorough stories, pictures and audio, is just as important
as hard genealogical data such as cemetery registers. It is vital that we
make such information available to the current generation and also preserve
it for posterity. The power of the Internet now provides us with the
perfect medium to achieve these objectives".

Laurence Harris, the JCR-UK Project Coordinator commented:
"The JCR-UK project will provide an invaluable on-line resource for both
genealogists and those interested in UK Jewish communities. I am delighted
that this project is being supported by the combined resources of both the
JGSGB who are the 'Centre of Excellence' for UK Jewish genealogical
research, and JewishGen with their unrivalled expertise in the use of the
Internet to benefit Jewish Genealogy".

Carol Skydell, the JewishGen Vice President for Special Projects said:
"JewishGen is so pleased to be able to provide this information as a public
service to the world wide community of those researching their Jewish
ancestry, history, culture and heritage. The joint JCR-UK project is just
one more piece of the massive grass roots effort creating another link in
the chain being forged by JewishGen towards preserving our history for
future generations."


Anthony Winner
Chairman, Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain
enquiries@...
www.jgsgb.org.uk


Carol Skydell
Vice President for Special Projects - JewishGen
cskydell@...
www.jewishgen.org


Washington Heights #general

Ron Goldman
 

<< Both families lived at several different locations in this part of upper
Manhattan during the 1920's and early 1930's. The story I heard was
that my grandmother moved whenever her apartment needed to be painted.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA >>


Painting an apartment usually coincided with renewal of the lease in
those days and it seemed that Oct. 1st was the day that *my* family's
lease expired, or needed to be renewed.

So, the 1st of Oct. every year, or three (3 years was a standard lease
term),
we either moved or underwent *the painting* on *my birthday*. I never had
a birthday party. Thanks mom.

Ron Goldman, FL.


ViewMate transalations #general

rosinskyb
 

Hi I'd like to thank everyone who contributed their time and effort in
helping the Postcard I posted. It was a great help and much appreciated.
Bernard Rosinsky


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Washington Heights #general

Ron Goldman
 

<< Both families lived at several different locations in this part of upper
Manhattan during the 1920's and early 1930's. The story I heard was
that my grandmother moved whenever her apartment needed to be painted.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA >>


Painting an apartment usually coincided with renewal of the lease in
those days and it seemed that Oct. 1st was the day that *my* family's
lease expired, or needed to be renewed.

So, the 1st of Oct. every year, or three (3 years was a standard lease
term),
we either moved or underwent *the painting* on *my birthday*. I never had
a birthday party. Thanks mom.

Ron Goldman, FL.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ViewMate transalations #general

rosinskyb
 

Hi I'd like to thank everyone who contributed their time and effort in
helping the Postcard I posted. It was a great help and much appreciated.
Bernard Rosinsky


1890 color photographs of Jerusalem, and the Bonfils family #general

MBernet@...
 

Dear Genners

I have come across some magnificent color photographs of Jerusalem, Sea of
Galilee, and other Holy Land sites, that were taken by Bonfils in around
1890, and hope to use them in my family history.

Can anyone tell me more about the photographer and his work. I believe the
actual photographer was Adrienne Bonfils, whose French father had set up a
family atelier in Beirut, Lebanon. Adrienne took over the family's business
after his father's death, and then his mother took it on herself.

Was the family related to the famous Sefardi family Bonfils / Tov-Elem? What
kind of camera would have been used in 1890 to produce color photographs (a
3-way beam splitter?) and what would have been the 3-color printing process
used.

If anyone else is interested in the phorographs, around 85 are on view at the
Tel Hai Museum in Israel, and they (and tens of thousands of more recent
photographs of Israel), can be purchased online for a very nominal fee
through the Israel Government Press Office
< www.gpo.gov.il >

I'd appreciate hearing >from anyone who's familiar with the early history of
color photography or the Bonfils family.

Many thanks,

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@...>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


Help with Name on Ships Manifest VM 1607 #general

barrychernick@...
 

My grand mother arrived with her three daughters on the SS Pennsylvania,
March 27, 1904. I can easily read the family name Schulmann (Schulman),
and my grand mothers name, Guta and two of my aunts, Riwke and Siere.
The third, the 5 year olds name I can not figure out. Any help would be
appreciated. See ViewMate VM1607
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html
Please respond privately
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1890 color photographs of Jerusalem, and the Bonfils family #general

MBernet@...
 

Dear Genners

I have come across some magnificent color photographs of Jerusalem, Sea of
Galilee, and other Holy Land sites, that were taken by Bonfils in around
1890, and hope to use them in my family history.

Can anyone tell me more about the photographer and his work. I believe the
actual photographer was Adrienne Bonfils, whose French father had set up a
family atelier in Beirut, Lebanon. Adrienne took over the family's business
after his father's death, and then his mother took it on herself.

Was the family related to the famous Sefardi family Bonfils / Tov-Elem? What
kind of camera would have been used in 1890 to produce color photographs (a
3-way beam splitter?) and what would have been the 3-color printing process
used.

If anyone else is interested in the phorographs, around 85 are on view at the
Tel Hai Museum in Israel, and they (and tens of thousands of more recent
photographs of Israel), can be purchased online for a very nominal fee
through the Israel Government Press Office
< www.gpo.gov.il >

I'd appreciate hearing >from anyone who's familiar with the early history of
color photography or the Bonfils family.

Many thanks,

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@...>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with Name on Ships Manifest VM 1607 #general

barrychernick@...
 

My grand mother arrived with her three daughters on the SS Pennsylvania,
March 27, 1904. I can easily read the family name Schulmann (Schulman),
and my grand mothers name, Guta and two of my aunts, Riwke and Siere.
The third, the 5 year olds name I can not figure out. Any help would be
appreciated. See ViewMate VM1607
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html
Please respond privately
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA


Re: Does the Yizkor list include only Holocaust victims? #yizkorbooks

Marian Rubin
 

On July 16, Eva Floersheim asked, "Does the Yizkor list include only
Holocaust
victims?"

If Eva's question refers to the JewishGenYizkor Book Necrology Database,
I have had the same question, and my observations of the Rzeszow Yizkor
book data are similar to those Eva made about the Lubaczow and Lwow
yizkor lists.

I'm coordinating the translation of the Rzeszow Yizkor Book. A section titled
"In Memoriam", which has been translated/transliterated, contains memorial
tributes >from relatives, grouped by family, and is primarily a remembrance of
those who were killed in the Holocaust.However, grandparents who died some
years before are sometimes included. There is no long list. Many
relatives submitted family photos, identifying those in the photo, usually
with a few words. Some tributes are text only, naming the deceased
and relationships of family members, some of whom were still living.
Each is signed by the relatives who submitted the tribute, so it was clear
that
those individuals were still living in 1966-1967 when the book was published.

After our translation went online, little by little, I have learned that
some in
the family photos survived the war or had emigrated before the war. I know
of one case where the tribute is for a person who died in Israel in the
early 1960s.

After the first of JewishGen's compilation was online, I thought about
submitting the Rzeszow list, but the necrologies were described on the
Necrology Database as "lists of Holocaust Martyrs", and that did not apply
to all the names in the Memorial section of our book. So I never submitted
it.
It would be impossible to identify (and exclude) those who did not perish
in the Holocaust.

The names in the Rzeszow Yizkor book's In Memoriam section have been
included in the online index our translator is compiling as he works.

Marian Rubin
San Francisco


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Re: Does the Yizkor list include only Holocaust victims? #yizkorbooks

Marian Rubin
 

On July 16, Eva Floersheim asked, "Does the Yizkor list include only
Holocaust
victims?"

If Eva's question refers to the JewishGenYizkor Book Necrology Database,
I have had the same question, and my observations of the Rzeszow Yizkor
book data are similar to those Eva made about the Lubaczow and Lwow
yizkor lists.

I'm coordinating the translation of the Rzeszow Yizkor Book. A section titled
"In Memoriam", which has been translated/transliterated, contains memorial
tributes >from relatives, grouped by family, and is primarily a remembrance of
those who were killed in the Holocaust.However, grandparents who died some
years before are sometimes included. There is no long list. Many
relatives submitted family photos, identifying those in the photo, usually
with a few words. Some tributes are text only, naming the deceased
and relationships of family members, some of whom were still living.
Each is signed by the relatives who submitted the tribute, so it was clear
that
those individuals were still living in 1966-1967 when the book was published.

After our translation went online, little by little, I have learned that
some in
the family photos survived the war or had emigrated before the war. I know
of one case where the tribute is for a person who died in Israel in the
early 1960s.

After the first of JewishGen's compilation was online, I thought about
submitting the Rzeszow list, but the necrologies were described on the
Necrology Database as "lists of Holocaust Martyrs", and that did not apply
to all the names in the Memorial section of our book. So I never submitted
it.
It would be impossible to identify (and exclude) those who did not perish
in the Holocaust.

The names in the Rzeszow Yizkor book's In Memoriam section have been
included in the online index our translator is compiling as he works.

Marian Rubin
San Francisco


Re: Documents from Odessa archive #general

Goulnik, Yves {PBC~Basel}
 

We stand behind the original decision for private responses only. However,
if you wish to summarize the responses that you receive and submit them in
your own language(not as quotes, please, as they will be rejected), they
will be considered for posting on the discussion board.

Moderator on Duty

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.
I would have thought these documents (and translation
thereof) is of more than individual interest. It also
seems to me that a number of the topics listed are
covered and partly translated in the Levanda Index :
http://www.angelfire.com/ms2/belaroots/levanda.htm

Yv
yves.goulnik@...
http://goulniky.free.fr/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Documents from Odessa archive #general

Goulnik, Yves {PBC~Basel}
 

We stand behind the original decision for private responses only. However,
if you wish to summarize the responses that you receive and submit them in
your own language(not as quotes, please, as they will be rejected), they
will be considered for posting on the discussion board.

Moderator on Duty

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.
I would have thought these documents (and translation
thereof) is of more than individual interest. It also
seems to me that a number of the topics listed are
covered and partly translated in the Levanda Index :
http://www.angelfire.com/ms2/belaroots/levanda.htm

Yv
yves.goulnik@...
http://goulniky.free.fr/