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Re: Koscherfleischversilberer #austria-czech

Lothar Hlavensky <lohla@...>
 

Hello Celia, hello Henry

------------------------
From: Celia Male <celiamale@...>
Henry, this appears to be an archaic phrase and if you search the
internet you will find a few examples of its "non-silver usage"!
------------------------
This word is used in Germany often today. So it is not archaic.

This is a slangword:
Versilbern = sell stuff (here kosher meat) to anybody for money.
If you receive money for stuff = etwas versilbert haben = (in the past)
received silver coins.
Also I believe too that he was a salesman for kosher meat.

Regards
Lothar (Hlavensky)
Germany

Schlesien: BAUMANN; BIELECK; DIEN; GRALLA; GNERLICH; LOECKELT; KRUSCH; KUSCHEL;
NAWRATH; PIECZKO; PRIESNITZ; SALWIG; SCHMIDT; SMACZNY; WEIDLER; WUDTKE;
ZIMMERMANN; ICQ no. 317140525
Boehmen: CAKRTOVE; HLAVENSKY; KALUSKOVE; NECADOVY; S(CH)LAMBOR; SINA; WIRT
http://www.genealogy.hlavensky.de

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech AW: Koscherfleischversilberer #austria-czech

Lothar Hlavensky <lohla@...>
 

Hello Celia, hello Henry

------------------------
From: Celia Male <celiamale@...>
Henry, this appears to be an archaic phrase and if you search the
internet you will find a few examples of its "non-silver usage"!
------------------------
This word is used in Germany often today. So it is not archaic.

This is a slangword:
Versilbern = sell stuff (here kosher meat) to anybody for money.
If you receive money for stuff = etwas versilbert haben = (in the past)
received silver coins.
Also I believe too that he was a salesman for kosher meat.

Regards
Lothar (Hlavensky)
Germany

Schlesien: BAUMANN; BIELECK; DIEN; GRALLA; GNERLICH; LOECKELT; KRUSCH; KUSCHEL;
NAWRATH; PIECZKO; PRIESNITZ; SALWIG; SCHMIDT; SMACZNY; WEIDLER; WUDTKE;
ZIMMERMANN; ICQ no. 317140525
Boehmen: CAKRTOVE; HLAVENSKY; KALUSKOVE; NECADOVY; S(CH)LAMBOR; SINA; WIRT
http://www.genealogy.hlavensky.de

Re: Birth and marriage registers for Vienna, 1884-1848 #austria-czech

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

One interesting point is that many of the names are clearly based on French
usage - a custom no doubt introduced when the French invaded and occupied Austria.
Such usages are still very common in Austria.

Robert W Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Florence & Henry Wellisch [mailto:kelwel@...]
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2005 12:05 PM
To: Austria-Czech SIG
Subject: [austriaczech] Birth and marriage registers for Vienna,
1884-1848

Bob Hanscom and I are planning to put this on the internet.
While going through the Jewish birth and marriage registers of
Vienna 1784 - 1848 I found certain interesting professions:
Any comments regarding the translations?

Wechselpapiernegotiant = Trader in promissory notes
Admodiateur = Leaseholder
Haendler mit Staatspapieren = Trader in Government securities
Districtstabakverleger = District manager of tobacco products ?
Traiteur = Caterer
Handlungskommissionaer = Trade commissioner
Oekonomielieferant = General wholesale supplier ?
Warensensal = Broker in general goods
Privilegiumsinhaber = Holder of a privilege?
Sekretaer des Baron Rothschild: (1832, Moritz Goldschmidt)
Armenkommissaer = Commissioner for the poor
Verabschiedeter Polizeikorporal, jetzt Conducteur bei der Nordbahn =
Retired policecorporal, now conductor for the northern railway
Prokurist bei Rothschild (Leopold von Wertheimstein)
Manufakturszeichner = Textile designer ?
Gen. Sekretaer der Ungarischen Centralbahn, Wien (1847, Josef Sichrowsky)
Gen. Sekretaer der Nordbahn (1847, Heinrich Sichrowsky)
Universitaetsprofessor und Leibarzt in Konstantinopel (1847, Dr. Sigmund
Spitzer)
Koscherfleichversilberer = Kosher meat ???? (This beats me; what has kosher
meat to do with silver?)

Henry Wellisch
Toronto

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech RE: Birth and marriage registers for Vienna, 1884-1848 #austria-czech

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

One interesting point is that many of the names are clearly based on French
usage - a custom no doubt introduced when the French invaded and occupied Austria.
Such usages are still very common in Austria.

Robert W Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Florence & Henry Wellisch [mailto:kelwel@...]
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2005 12:05 PM
To: Austria-Czech SIG
Subject: [austriaczech] Birth and marriage registers for Vienna,
1884-1848

Bob Hanscom and I are planning to put this on the internet.
While going through the Jewish birth and marriage registers of
Vienna 1784 - 1848 I found certain interesting professions:
Any comments regarding the translations?

Wechselpapiernegotiant = Trader in promissory notes
Admodiateur = Leaseholder
Haendler mit Staatspapieren = Trader in Government securities
Districtstabakverleger = District manager of tobacco products ?
Traiteur = Caterer
Handlungskommissionaer = Trade commissioner
Oekonomielieferant = General wholesale supplier ?
Warensensal = Broker in general goods
Privilegiumsinhaber = Holder of a privilege?
Sekretaer des Baron Rothschild: (1832, Moritz Goldschmidt)
Armenkommissaer = Commissioner for the poor
Verabschiedeter Polizeikorporal, jetzt Conducteur bei der Nordbahn =
Retired policecorporal, now conductor for the northern railway
Prokurist bei Rothschild (Leopold von Wertheimstein)
Manufakturszeichner = Textile designer ?
Gen. Sekretaer der Ungarischen Centralbahn, Wien (1847, Josef Sichrowsky)
Gen. Sekretaer der Nordbahn (1847, Heinrich Sichrowsky)
Universitaetsprofessor und Leibarzt in Konstantinopel (1847, Dr. Sigmund
Spitzer)
Koscherfleichversilberer = Kosher meat ???? (This beats me; what has kosher
meat to do with silver?)

Henry Wellisch
Toronto

STERNBERK(G) town in Moravia #austria-czech

Peter Rohel <prohel@...>
 

Dear members,

I am researching Genealogy, etc. information on the town of Sternberk(g)
(pop. 14,000), Moravia north of Olomouc. Any knowledge of the textile
industry in Sternberk(g), between (1800-1948) would be greatly appreciated.

I would love to hear >from anyone who has Sternberk(g) ancestor's.
Information on the town's "post-war" Sudeten expulsions (80% of town) to
Germany & Russia, pre-communist history, etc. (besides what's on
www.sternberk.cz).

Perhaps you own the book by: STIEF, W. "Geschichte der Stadt Sternberg in
Maehren" pub. 1934 in German?
*I am especially looking for any knowledge of
the "HEEG + FRIEDMANN" textile factory and the FRIEDMANN & KLIMES(CH)
families. Perhaps your ancestor's did business with the factory or even
worked there?

**With headquarters in Vienna, sometimes between (1850-1880) the FRIEDMANN
family built a "Textile Factory" in Sternberk(g), Moravia named: "HEEG +
FRIEDMANN". It was one of "two large factories" in Sternberk(g), employing
approx. (200-400) people. The other firm being "GROGER". Both factories and
properties were confiscated in 1945 by the Czech state (Benes Decrees). In
1946 the "GROGER" firm became "Moravia" (appliance mfg.), currently "Mora
Moravia". It took until 1948 before an "official confiscation document" was
issued by the town re; "HEEG + FRIEDMANN" textile. Sternberk(g) did not know
what to do with the factory for several years and "demolished" it in 1948,
most likely because the Communists were coming to power "officially".

My mother Heidi (nee FRIEDMANN) KLIMES(CH) was the only one who stayed
behind in Sternberk(g), as a result of meeting captain Miroslav ROHEL in
1947. Prior to meeting mom, dad was a "prisoner of war for (4) years", as a
result of "defending Czechoslovakia". However," they did not know" the
country would become "Communist" in 1948 and under Soviet Union control,
with closed borders.

Thank you, perhaps you have something on the town of Sternberk(g).

Researching: R. Sinai
LOEW (Worms, Prague, Posen), FRIEDMANN (Poland, Wienna), BACH (Wienna), BOHM
(Nikosburg, Wienna), GRUNFELD (Humpoletz), EISLER (Nikolsburg?, Wienna), GRATZ,
LICHTENSTADT, MARKUS, SCHLACKENWERTH, SPIRA, SPIRO, SPIEGLER, TODROS, WEISS,
WIENER, WIENER-SPIRA, WOLF,etc.

Peter Rohel, Toronto, Canada
prohel<AT>sympatico.ca
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prohel/
(Rohel-Bach-Bohm-Loew + Associates)

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech STERNBERK(G) town in Moravia #austria-czech

Peter Rohel <prohel@...>
 

Dear members,

I am researching Genealogy, etc. information on the town of Sternberk(g)
(pop. 14,000), Moravia north of Olomouc. Any knowledge of the textile
industry in Sternberk(g), between (1800-1948) would be greatly appreciated.

I would love to hear >from anyone who has Sternberk(g) ancestor's.
Information on the town's "post-war" Sudeten expulsions (80% of town) to
Germany & Russia, pre-communist history, etc. (besides what's on
www.sternberk.cz).

Perhaps you own the book by: STIEF, W. "Geschichte der Stadt Sternberg in
Maehren" pub. 1934 in German?
*I am especially looking for any knowledge of
the "HEEG + FRIEDMANN" textile factory and the FRIEDMANN & KLIMES(CH)
families. Perhaps your ancestor's did business with the factory or even
worked there?

**With headquarters in Vienna, sometimes between (1850-1880) the FRIEDMANN
family built a "Textile Factory" in Sternberk(g), Moravia named: "HEEG +
FRIEDMANN". It was one of "two large factories" in Sternberk(g), employing
approx. (200-400) people. The other firm being "GROGER". Both factories and
properties were confiscated in 1945 by the Czech state (Benes Decrees). In
1946 the "GROGER" firm became "Moravia" (appliance mfg.), currently "Mora
Moravia". It took until 1948 before an "official confiscation document" was
issued by the town re; "HEEG + FRIEDMANN" textile. Sternberk(g) did not know
what to do with the factory for several years and "demolished" it in 1948,
most likely because the Communists were coming to power "officially".

My mother Heidi (nee FRIEDMANN) KLIMES(CH) was the only one who stayed
behind in Sternberk(g), as a result of meeting captain Miroslav ROHEL in
1947. Prior to meeting mom, dad was a "prisoner of war for (4) years", as a
result of "defending Czechoslovakia". However," they did not know" the
country would become "Communist" in 1948 and under Soviet Union control,
with closed borders.

Thank you, perhaps you have something on the town of Sternberk(g).

Researching: R. Sinai
LOEW (Worms, Prague, Posen), FRIEDMANN (Poland, Wienna), BACH (Wienna), BOHM
(Nikosburg, Wienna), GRUNFELD (Humpoletz), EISLER (Nikolsburg?, Wienna), GRATZ,
LICHTENSTADT, MARKUS, SCHLACKENWERTH, SPIRA, SPIRO, SPIEGLER, TODROS, WEISS,
WIENER, WIENER-SPIRA, WOLF,etc.

Peter Rohel, Toronto, Canada
prohel<AT>sympatico.ca
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prohel/
(Rohel-Bach-Bohm-Loew + Associates)

Re: The BRANDEIS family of Jung Bunzlau: Powidl and Purim, 1731 #austria-czech

Polakovic Daniel <daniel.polakovic@...>
 

Subject: re: The BRANDEIS family of Jung Bunzlau: Powidl and Purim, 1731

Bs"d

I prepare an anthology of Hebrew and Yiddish family scrolls for Czech public
and by the way "the Povidl affair" is one of them. It was written in Hebrew
mixed with Yiddish terms and published by M. Gruenwald (the original of the
text isn't preserved until present days). I've a copy of this text, the
article has a short German foreword and remain text is in Hebrew. As for
other articles, there are only the reference remarks to Gruenwald' article.

As for Brandeis family in Mlada Boleslav (Jungbunzlau), here is a complete
list of all members in alfabetical order (up to 1900):
- Abraham Veit b. Meir (1810)
- Avigdor Hirsch b. Rabbi Betzalel (1763)
- Bela b. Leb Meir (s.a.)
- Ber b. Josef (1683)
- Rabbi Betzalel b. Rabbi Moshe (1766)
- Chava b. David (s.a)
- David b. Hirsch Leb (1846)
- Hindl (1831)
- Keidl b. Meir (1867)
- Leb b . Treindel (1793)
- Meir David (1855)
- Rechle b. David Hirsch (1861)
- Taube b. Veit (1790)
- Reichel b. Feisch Breindls (1828)

Best wishes,
Yours sincerely

Daniel Polakovic, Prague

Re: Birth and marriage registers for Vienna, 1784-1848 #austria-czech

Frank Feiner <genealogy@...>
 

About the "Kosherfleischversilberer"
Just keep it simple:
versilbern = to make silver of it (silver coins) = to make money of it =
to sell it

Frank Feiner, Rotterdam NL
researching:
FEINER, GRAB, SPITZER, WASSERVOGEL, BLECHNER, HILFREICH, DOHAN,
GRUENBAUM and TUTTMAN from: Austria; Slovakia; Hungary and Bukovina

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech re: The BRANDEIS family of Jung Bunzlau: Powidl and Purim, 1731 #austria-czech

Polakovic Daniel <daniel.polakovic@...>
 

Subject: re: The BRANDEIS family of Jung Bunzlau: Powidl and Purim, 1731

Bs"d

I prepare an anthology of Hebrew and Yiddish family scrolls for Czech public
and by the way "the Povidl affair" is one of them. It was written in Hebrew
mixed with Yiddish terms and published by M. Gruenwald (the original of the
text isn't preserved until present days). I've a copy of this text, the
article has a short German foreword and remain text is in Hebrew. As for
other articles, there are only the reference remarks to Gruenwald' article.

As for Brandeis family in Mlada Boleslav (Jungbunzlau), here is a complete
list of all members in alfabetical order (up to 1900):
- Abraham Veit b. Meir (1810)
- Avigdor Hirsch b. Rabbi Betzalel (1763)
- Bela b. Leb Meir (s.a.)
- Ber b. Josef (1683)
- Rabbi Betzalel b. Rabbi Moshe (1766)
- Chava b. David (s.a)
- David b. Hirsch Leb (1846)
- Hindl (1831)
- Keidl b. Meir (1867)
- Leb b . Treindel (1793)
- Meir David (1855)
- Rechle b. David Hirsch (1861)
- Taube b. Veit (1790)
- Reichel b. Feisch Breindls (1828)

Best wishes,
Yours sincerely

Daniel Polakovic, Prague

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Birth and marriage registers for Vienna, 1784-1848 #austria-czech

Frank Feiner <genealogy@...>
 

About the "Kosherfleischversilberer"
Just keep it simple:
versilbern = to make silver of it (silver coins) = to make money of it =
to sell it

Frank Feiner, Rotterdam NL
researching:
FEINER, GRAB, SPITZER, WASSERVOGEL, BLECHNER, HILFREICH, DOHAN,
GRUENBAUM and TUTTMAN from: Austria; Slovakia; Hungary and Bukovina

Researching (1500-1800) Family Names #austria-czech

Peter Rohel <prohel@...>
 

Dear Members,

Although I have "Rabbi Sinai Loew" (Maharal's brother) descendant names, I
have not been able to find any information on the names:
"Michl/Michal/Michael WIENER-SPIRA (SPIRO)" and his son "David WIENER-SPIRA
(SPIRO)". Since the LOEW family came >from Worms, Prague and Posen, tracing
information of their "spouses" is difficult.

*I also realize there are many Spira (Spiro) name variations: Shapiro,
Shapira, Szpiro, Szapir, Saphir, Saper, Sapir, Safir, Shpir, Shuper and
Super. The name derived >from Speyer, Bavaria, Germany in the 14th century.
Originally bore the name "Ashkenazi," to distinguish it >from the Kahane or
Katz-Spira family, prominent families of Bohemia added to their names, e.g.,
Frankl-Spiro, WIENER-SPIRO, Porges-Spiro. Branch is descended >from Solomon
SPIRA in 14th century, a descendant of Rashi. Spira (Spiro) in Jewish Enc.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=1017&letter=S&search=spira

Any help with my WIENER-SPIRA search or TODROS, WIENER, MARKUS & GRATZ names
is very much appreciated. Beside LOEW's, I am not sure who else was a Rabbi.


*Rabbi Sinai LOEW (b. ca 1508 Worms, d. 1607 Kolin), Rabbi of Nikolsburg
(brother of the MAHARAL), was the son of Bezalel ben Haim LOEW. Rabbi Sinai
LOEW married Chana Enokh WESSELS (Khana Enokh WESSELS).

*Rabbi Chaim (ben Sinai) LOEW Born: 1545 Died: 1620 + Krasna (bat GABRIEL)

*Judith LOEW + Eleasor TODROS Died: 1635

*Perl TODROS + Michl (s. David) WIENER-SPIRA Died: 1691

*David (s . Michl) WIENER-SPIRA + Mirl (t. Sinai) SCHLACKKENWERTH
Died: 1681 Father: Sinai SCHLACKKENWERTH, 2nd wife Elen (t. Abraham) LICHTENSTADT

*Salman (s. David) WIENER + Malke (?)

*Bele (t. Salman) WIENER Died: 1740 + Falk MARKUS Died: 1740


*Cheyle MARKUS Died: Unknown Age at death: ? + Joseph Wolf GRATZ

Researching: R. Sinai
LOEW (Worms, Prague, Posen), FRIEDMANN (Poland, Wienna), BACH (Wienna),
BOHM (Nikosburg, Wienna), GRUNFELD(Humpoletz), EISLER (Nikolsburg?, Wienna),
GRATZ, LICHTENSTADT, MARKUS, SCHLACKENWERTH, SPIRA, SPIRO, SPIEGLER, TODROS,
WEISS, WIENER, WIENER-SPIRA, WOLF, etc.

Thank you for your help,
Peter Rohel
Toronto, Canada
prohel<AT>sympatico.ca
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prohel/


MODERATOR NOTE: Another source that may be helpful to you, Peter, is the Rabbinic
Genealogy SIG: http://www.jewishgen.org/Rabbinic/

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Researching (1500-1800) Family Names #austria-czech

Peter Rohel <prohel@...>
 

Dear Members,

Although I have "Rabbi Sinai Loew" (Maharal's brother) descendant names, I
have not been able to find any information on the names:
"Michl/Michal/Michael WIENER-SPIRA (SPIRO)" and his son "David WIENER-SPIRA
(SPIRO)". Since the LOEW family came >from Worms, Prague and Posen, tracing
information of their "spouses" is difficult.

*I also realize there are many Spira (Spiro) name variations: Shapiro,
Shapira, Szpiro, Szapir, Saphir, Saper, Sapir, Safir, Shpir, Shuper and
Super. The name derived >from Speyer, Bavaria, Germany in the 14th century.
Originally bore the name "Ashkenazi," to distinguish it >from the Kahane or
Katz-Spira family, prominent families of Bohemia added to their names, e.g.,
Frankl-Spiro, WIENER-SPIRO, Porges-Spiro. Branch is descended >from Solomon
SPIRA in 14th century, a descendant of Rashi. Spira (Spiro) in Jewish Enc.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=1017&letter=S&search=spira

Any help with my WIENER-SPIRA search or TODROS, WIENER, MARKUS & GRATZ names
is very much appreciated. Beside LOEW's, I am not sure who else was a Rabbi.


*Rabbi Sinai LOEW (b. ca 1508 Worms, d. 1607 Kolin), Rabbi of Nikolsburg
(brother of the MAHARAL), was the son of Bezalel ben Haim LOEW. Rabbi Sinai
LOEW married Chana Enokh WESSELS (Khana Enokh WESSELS).

*Rabbi Chaim (ben Sinai) LOEW Born: 1545 Died: 1620 + Krasna (bat GABRIEL)

*Judith LOEW + Eleasor TODROS Died: 1635

*Perl TODROS + Michl (s. David) WIENER-SPIRA Died: 1691

*David (s . Michl) WIENER-SPIRA + Mirl (t. Sinai) SCHLACKKENWERTH
Died: 1681 Father: Sinai SCHLACKKENWERTH, 2nd wife Elen (t. Abraham) LICHTENSTADT

*Salman (s. David) WIENER + Malke (?)

*Bele (t. Salman) WIENER Died: 1740 + Falk MARKUS Died: 1740


*Cheyle MARKUS Died: Unknown Age at death: ? + Joseph Wolf GRATZ

Researching: R. Sinai
LOEW (Worms, Prague, Posen), FRIEDMANN (Poland, Wienna), BACH (Wienna),
BOHM (Nikosburg, Wienna), GRUNFELD(Humpoletz), EISLER (Nikolsburg?, Wienna),
GRATZ, LICHTENSTADT, MARKUS, SCHLACKENWERTH, SPIRA, SPIRO, SPIEGLER, TODROS,
WEISS, WIENER, WIENER-SPIRA, WOLF, etc.

Thank you for your help,
Peter Rohel
Toronto, Canada
prohel<AT>sympatico.ca
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~prohel/


MODERATOR NOTE: Another source that may be helpful to you, Peter, is the Rabbinic
Genealogy SIG: http://www.jewishgen.org/Rabbinic/

Locating Gedalia GROYSMAN #austria-czech

amira_m@...
 

Shalom to all,

I'm new in this Sig.

I'm looking for any help in locating a living person in Vienna Austria.
His name is Gedalia GROISMAN, he should be living in Vienna.
I searched the Austrian telephone directory and found a man by this name
[Gedal] . But can't be sure this him, we phoned him - he didn't answered.
Is there a way to locate him through the Jewish community in Vienna ?
Or if there is another way locating him ?

Any help will be appreciated.
Please respond privately,

Amira Mashiah, Israel
amira_m@...

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Locating Gedalia GROYSMAN #austria-czech

amira_m@...
 

Shalom to all,

I'm new in this Sig.

I'm looking for any help in locating a living person in Vienna Austria.
His name is Gedalia GROISMAN, he should be living in Vienna.
I searched the Austrian telephone directory and found a man by this name
[Gedal] . But can't be sure this him, we phoned him - he didn't answered.
Is there a way to locate him through the Jewish community in Vienna ?
Or if there is another way locating him ?

Any help will be appreciated.
Please respond privately,

Amira Mashiah, Israel
amira_m@...

Russian translations #poland

Aklay16@...
 

Hi- I had a similar problem years ago. I contacted the nearest Russian
Orthodox church & the Father there referred me to a member who was able
to do all the translations perfectly. No direct payment was asked only
a requyest that a donation to their Church would be appreciated.
Al Klayman- Deerfield Beach, FL

JRI Poland #Poland Russian translations #poland

Aklay16@...
 

Hi- I had a similar problem years ago. I contacted the nearest Russian
Orthodox church & the Father there referred me to a member who was able
to do all the translations perfectly. No direct payment was asked only
a requyest that a donation to their Church would be appreciated.
Al Klayman- Deerfield Beach, FL

Wassermann family #poland

Chantal Auerbach <chantal.auerbach@...>
 

I am researching into my family tree and being a novice need some help
please.

My grandfather David Wassermann was born in Radymno Poland. I am trying
to find out any information relating to his brother Meilech Wassermann.

Their father was Shulem Wassermann and mother Scheindel Bratspiess.( I
don't know which stetl she came from)

I am also trying to find out about my GGrandmother Beila Neukorn. (nee
Berkner) Apparently I have just found out that Beila married twice and
that her first husband had the surname Spitzel. I believe that her
husband's name was Moses. BUT I need proof if possible. I am fairly
certain that she came >from Krakow as did her ?husband? Moses Spitzel.

Does anyone have any information on this.

Thank you so much

Chantal Auerbach

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.

JRI Poland #Poland Wassermann family #poland

Chantal Auerbach <chantal.auerbach@...>
 

I am researching into my family tree and being a novice need some help
please.

My grandfather David Wassermann was born in Radymno Poland. I am trying
to find out any information relating to his brother Meilech Wassermann.

Their father was Shulem Wassermann and mother Scheindel Bratspiess.( I
don't know which stetl she came from)

I am also trying to find out about my GGrandmother Beila Neukorn. (nee
Berkner) Apparently I have just found out that Beila married twice and
that her first husband had the surname Spitzel. I believe that her
husband's name was Moses. BUT I need proof if possible. I am fairly
certain that she came >from Krakow as did her ?husband? Moses Spitzel.

Does anyone have any information on this.

Thank you so much

Chantal Auerbach

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.

Surname Britzman #poland

Barry S Britzman <prydeiniwr@...>
 

Hello all
I am seeking help with my paternal surname BRITZMAN(N) and its
variants. Little is Known of My Grandfather Hermann Ernst Britzman born
C1860 Europe place unknown. Died 1914 Westminster, London, profession
tailor Hermann's father was Daniel Britzman, profession manufacturer
of vinegar
-
from Hermann Ernst's marriage certificate dated 1904 Marylebone London.
Hermann allegedly spoke German and Yiddish.There is an unsubstantiated
story that he was a tailor to the Greek royals prior to arrival in the UK.

The only Britzmans in the UK are descendants of these two Britzmans
above. Though there were at times seemingly non related people of this
name. But there were no recorded British descendants of the others as
far as I can make out.
Best wishes to all

Barry S Britzman
In Swansea Wales

MODERATOR'S NOTE: If you have any specific family information, please
respond privately. If you have research suggestions, feel free to share
them with the list.

JRI Poland #Poland Surname Britzman #poland

Barry S Britzman <prydeiniwr@...>
 

Hello all
I am seeking help with my paternal surname BRITZMAN(N) and its
variants. Little is Known of My Grandfather Hermann Ernst Britzman born
C1860 Europe place unknown. Died 1914 Westminster, London, profession
tailor Hermann's father was Daniel Britzman, profession manufacturer
of vinegar
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from Hermann Ernst's marriage certificate dated 1904 Marylebone London.
Hermann allegedly spoke German and Yiddish.There is an unsubstantiated
story that he was a tailor to the Greek royals prior to arrival in the UK.

The only Britzmans in the UK are descendants of these two Britzmans
above. Though there were at times seemingly non related people of this
name. But there were no recorded British descendants of the others as
far as I can make out.
Best wishes to all

Barry S Britzman
In Swansea Wales

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